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darlene brady
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  31 .  black and white with color in the eyes .....
how do you make the black and white photos that have color added like say in the eyes ?

7/22/2013 1:42:24 PM

Vanessa M. Lee
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  I have done something like this using Picasa (using Focal B&W) although, I'm sure there are easy ways and/or better programs out there.

7/22/2013 4:49:30 PM

  If you are using an editing program that uses layers (PSE, Photoshop, etc.), it is a pretty simple process. Using a separate layer to convert to B&W, you can then use a mask to remove the layer over the eyes. The color layer below will show through.

7/24/2013 6:30:08 AM

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  32 .  3D Film Cameras
Friends:
I have in my "hot little hands," a Nimsol 3D camera! If my research is correct, you can use "regular" 35mm film.
I would like to know if this is right and if it is, where can you get this film processed??
I would like to use the camera, however if I can not process the film it is not going to work out.
Thanks for any information y'all can give.
Wayne Langston

7/14/2013 5:44:13 AM

Gregory LaGrange
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  It does use regular film. You can get the negatives at any place that still develops film. It's getting it printed that you probably won't be able to do.
And is a big part of why that kind of camera failed. Could be a collectors item.

7/15/2013 9:09:51 AM

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  The Nimslo 3D uses 35mm color negative film. NImslo closed operations about 20years+ ago. To my knowledge no 3D processor of the Nimslo type exsit.

I actually owned and used a 3D Nimslo. Even have a few 8x10s in a box. I photographed my kid and actually used it for wedding novelty pics.

8/20/2013 3:49:33 PM

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Nicholas Semo
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  33 .  New category for contest.
I'm sure I'll get a lot of flack for this,but here goes.
How about a new category for photos that aren't digitally enhanced in any way. After all isn't that what photography was all about, getting in right in the camera. In the days when we shot slide film you either got it right or you tossed it. Seems like all I hear now is "I'll fix that in photoshop". I've seen some awesome photos here and they are great to look at,but a lot of photos are heavily altered in photoshop or other programs. I've seen photos entered in the contest that didn't move forward were reworked in photoshop and then re-entered, heck...I've done it myself. I think the new category should allow only the minimum of work...cropping, dodge and burn, and a minimum of sharpening , only because of the nature of digital cameras. A re-submit to me would mean going out and re-shooting the subject under better conditions.
Just my 2 cents.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

7/3/2013 11:27:32 AM

  Love the idea. Would love to see this started.

7/3/2013 3:06:32 PM

  I think it's an excellent idea Nicholas. I would love it.

7/3/2013 4:11:44 PM

  Count me as a yes - great idea!

7/3/2013 5:05:35 PM

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  I like the idea too. But where would you (or BP) draw the line as to what's digitally altered versus out of the camera? And how would BP know a photo isn't altered somewhat? Again, I'm all for it because we should all strive to get it right, in-camera. Just wondering how BP would know if something slightly cloned, or a bird "painted in", etc. THe only way I can think of is supplying the RAW image. But some people don't shoot in RAW. Good discussion topic.

7/3/2013 5:15:49 PM

  Good point Ken. I guess this is where we would have to have faith in the honesty of folks entering photos in that category. Hmmmm, I guess this may be the first obstacle.

7/3/2013 5:27:56 PM

Gregory LaGrange
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  In the days of slide film you still had retouching and corrections when that slide went to print. Plus taking advantage of using different slide films based on their different characteristics of color rendition, contrast, grain, to get desired results.
But I understand your point.

7/3/2013 6:34:11 PM

  I personally feel that it is the end result that should matter and not how one comes to the end. In other words, it should be the right destination and not the route one took to reach there!!!

An image should be able to grasp the viewer and keep his attention for long, as long as this is achieved, I believe its a successful image. Whether it was all done in-camera (by the way there is a lot of processing done inside the DSLRs of these days if one is shooting in Jpeg or Tif modes) or with combination of some post-processing tools, should not matter, IMHO.

Correct me if I am wrong, I do not believe that there is any professional photographer using DSLRs who does not use some kind of post-processing.

UB.

7/3/2013 9:43:23 PM

  Anyone that shoots raw format has to use post processing, but that's not what I'm talking about.
Our state fair has an annual photo contest. The two main category's are traditional and non- traditional. Any photo altered in photoshop that includes cloning, painting in objects not in the original, severly altering the color or the use of photoshop filters to add dreamy effects is not allowed. Basically any processing other than a straight conversion from raw to jpeg, would not be allowed in the traditional category.

7/4/2013 4:13:42 AM

  Interesting idea, Nicholas.
Not so easy to do.

How would you draw the line on "minimum of work...cropping, dodge and burn, and a minimum of sharpening"?
Software in camera will do the processing for you in case you do not shoot in raw. Different cameras and settings...
Cropping can be easily achieved by walking closer to your subject (or zooming or using different lens)... why would you allow that?
Putting limits on level of dodge and burn is quite difficult, too. In the end it all comes down to judges.

A good photograph will stand out in any category, with or without Photoshop. It is only up to judges to reward heavy (or any) post processing.
And if you look at the winners you'll get the idea where they stand on this issue.

One more problem with a new category - you would need another one for each existing category. Like flowers with and without PP, landscapes with and without PP...

Maybe it would be better to abolish all categories and have only one - photography.

Just a thought.

7/4/2013 5:40:35 AM

  Cropping by moving in closer, using a different lens, or zooming in, is all done in camera and doesn't change the photo you were taking at the time.
I'm talking about trying to achieve the best that we can, with the tool we have in our hand (the camera) and not using external software to achieve something that can't possibly be achieved in camera.

7/4/2013 6:06:41 AM

  I still really like your idea Nicholas. If not a new category in the contest then maybe a club? Just a thought.

7/4/2013 4:20:03 PM

  I am absolutly agree with Usman, that "the end result that should matter". Digital photography is not just digital camera. It involves everything this technology can offer. And if we don't use it, there will be no progress. Speaking about RAW: you can do wonders within RAW software without ever using any filters. Everything - for the better final result. This is MHO.

7/5/2013 5:54:11 AM

  Is progress always for the better?

7/5/2013 8:18:15 AM

  Just to clarify...I'm talking about a separate category for folks that want to enter photos that have not been manipulated. Those that want to manipulate there photos still have all the other category's open to them.
Not everyone can afford to purchase photoshop, or other photo manipulating software, and not everyone is good at using it. It doesn't seen fair that everyone has to compete against photoshop experts.
Amazing photos were taken long before photoshop, but it took hard work, and waiting for the right conditions. I feel amazing photos can still me made without photoshop.

7/5/2013 8:48:00 AM

  In general - yes! And this is for a completely different discussion.
But to MAKE a great picture one should start with getting it right in the camera. There is no doubt in my mind about it. Certain things like a poor composition, light and focusing can't be improved enough with any external software to end up looking great.
But if I can add something that will improve the otherwise good picture even more OR convey a certain feeling or mood, why not use it?

7/5/2013 9:46:17 AM

  You are right, Nicholas. It's not fair that everyone has to compete against photoshop experts. But unfortunately the nature of the digital camera is that images have to be sharpened more and color edited (at least) to be good enough for a contest.

7/5/2013 10:01:21 AM

  Nicholas, are you suggesting that "non manipulated" photos can not fairly compete with "manipulated" ones? Why not?

There is plenty of great free software for those that can not affort PS. If somebody is not good at using it - well that's just lazy.
It's a tool - same as camera. How you use your tools is the difference between good and bad photo. The "in-camera expert" who is also a "photoshop expert" will always do better then just the "in-camera expert" or just the "photoshop expert".
The tools are there, why not use them? How you use them is the key.

There is a number of people (rather small number now) that think digital is not "real" photography anyway and that only film can produce the real thing.

Amazing photos will always be amazing photos.

7/5/2013 10:43:21 AM

  Pure photography or straight photography refers to photography that attempts to depict a scene as realistically and objectively as permitted by the medium, renouncing the use of manipulation. The West Coast Photographic Movement is best known for the use of this style.
Founded in 1932, Group f/64 who championed purist photography, had this to say:
Pure photography is defined as possessing no qualities of technique, composition or idea, derivative of any other art form.
The term emerged in the 1880s to mean simply an unmanipulated photographic print, in opposition to the composite prints of Henry Peach Robinson or the soft focus painterly images of some pictorialist photographers. At first, straight photography was a viable choice within pictorialism, as, for example, the work of Henry Frederick Evans. Paul Strand's 1917 characterization of his work as "absolute unqualified objectivity" described a change in the meaning of the term. It came to imply a specific aesthetic typified by higher contrast, sharper focus, aversion to cropping, and emphasis on the underlying abstract geometric structure of subjects. Some photographers began to identify these formal elements as a language for translating metaphysical or spiritual dimensions into visual terms.
This aesthetic caught on in the early 1930s and found its most notable use in what came to be known as The West Coast Photographic Movement. Photographic superstars including Ansel Adams, Edward Weston his son Brett Weston, Dody Weston Thompson and Berenice Abbott are considered innovators and practitioners of this style. Many other well known artists of this time considered themselves practitioners of this West Coast counterculture and even formed a group known as Group f/64 to highlight their efforts and set themselves apart from the East Coast pictorialism movement.

From Wikipedia

7/5/2013 1:22:48 PM

  The only real purist is the one who watches the scene without a camera on his face and is keeping it to himself and not uttering a word about it to anyone.
Everything else is manipulation.

Those giants you mentioned were all masters of the darkroom and manipulated their photos to achieve their vision. They probably invented cropping, dodge/burn, sharpening and most of photoshop tricks.

Ansel Adams quote: “The film is the score, but the print is the performance.”

7/5/2013 3:12:23 PM

  This wasn't meant to become a debate, I was only interested in finding out how many people would be interested in a new category for the contest. Those not interested could continue to enter in the existing category's.

Now I have 6 photos to put on disc and taken to be printed for our state fair photo contest. After printing I have to cut Matt's for them then mount them per instructions. I will be entering these in the traditional photo category ( only minor adjustments allowed) as opposed to the non-traditional photo category (manipulation to your hearts content is allowed) LOL
I'll check this thread next week to see if there is any interest for a new category. Maybe then I can contact bp about it.
Dayna, you mentioned maybe start a club. It sounds like that may be the way to go. I wouldn't know where to begin....perhaps someone with the know how and ability to run one could get it going.
If I've offended anyone by suggesting this...it wasn't my intention. If my replies offended anyone, that also was not my intention.
Have fun and keep on clicking.

Nick

7/5/2013 3:46:24 PM

Gregory LaGrange
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  Nobody's offended. It's just a discussion on the topic, which is what this is here for. And you also did ask for anybody's thoughts.
Using photoshop isn't inherently an advantage, like being without the proper number of players on a team. Although I will acknowledge that there can be factors that come from the direction of the viewer of the photos. Like the common made-up term of Flickr effect. Which is the propensity for a seemingly plain photo on Flickr to get numerous "great shot" comments due to the maker of the photo just increasing the saturation of the color. If you bake with a lot of butter, you may get a lot of "ooh this taste good" no matter what you make.
But there's always an element that is not afforded to all entries of a contest. A photo of an elderly woman in Cambodia is just a photo of my next door neighbor to somebody in Cambodia. What's the big deal. But that same photo could be lauded as National Geo quality to a stateside judge of a contest.
So any perceived advantage of photoshop may not be an advantage that the photographer has but something on the other side of the viewer or judge. And that happens. Could you have black and white compete with color if you wanted nothing done to render the image other than how it is as you see it in front of you.

7/5/2013 7:38:36 PM

  Oops.....you're right Gregory... I did type "thoughts" I meant to say would anyone else be interested. My bad.

7/6/2013 7:11:36 AM

  Sorry.

7/6/2013 11:09:46 AM

Christopher J. Budny
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  My two cents; the editing ultimately doesn't matter, as I tend to disagree with your opening statement that photography is about getting it right, in-camera. Rather, I agree with Usman's response, the end visual result achieved is the key factor for a displayed photograph. Does the displayed photograph tell the story, or convey the feeling, or meaning, or emotion, or concepts that the artist was trying to get across to the viewer? If the answer is yes, the photographer (like all artists in the history of art) has used his or her available tools and skills, whatever those may be at the time, effectively.

I tend to agree that Photoshop cannot fix a truly "bad" photographic capture---but what that really says to me, is Photoshop can't fix photographs that weren't first captured with the various elements deemed crucial to the success of communicating the photographer's vision to the viewer. Getting a scene right, in-camera, is often a big first step towards a successful image, but it has never really been the one and only step. (Even the "straight" photographers in the Wikipedia article you mentioned, had to choose (beyond their wet-darkroom choices!) their monotone pigment values and their paper types & surfaces for their prints - which subtly alter the way the viewer perceives the printed image.) And for some photographs, getting the scene right, in-camera, means producing a capture that at least initially, could look like garbage to some, but is the correct capture for achieving the envisioned end result.

On top of all that, today's cameras carry a veritable Photoshop suite of tools, already built-in. In-camera HDR, in-camera photo-stitching or pano, in-camera multi-exposure/single frame, in-camera adjustments to color, saturation, sharpness, creative filters, toning, borders, etc.---those are all now available "in-camera" on many models; yet I'm guessing for your category idea, contestants would need to leave all of those settings out of an image capture. Perhaps if the contestants had to gather together, shoot the exact same scene at essentially the same moment, all with the same focal length, same subject focus point, using their camera's most-neutral-settings... just maybe you'd have the basis for a judge to then evaluate which of those images, in the judge's opinion, is closest (to the judge's ideal) of "getting it right in camera"---and really, the judge needed to be present on the day of shooting! But when you let the contestants enter anything (trusting they will honestly abide by no editing), they still have many, many tools at their disposal to potentially create a more compelling image than their neighbor; depth of field choices, panning techniques, long-exposures, double-exposures---none of which slip into "editing" territory, but all of which "heavily alter" the scene...

The tool sets for all artists have evolved over time; the good artists throughout history have always known which tools to use, when to use them, and how to best use them to their advantage, to produce art that appeals to their audience.

My two cents... ;) Not trying to give you any flack! ;)

7/19/2013 9:06:18 AM

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  34 .  Phello Photographers Club Trip - Misc.
Whatever you like that doesn't fit in another category.

6/19/2013 1:24:00 PM

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  35 .  Phello Photographers Club Trip - Long Exposure
minimum of 20 seconds for this one

6/19/2013 1:22:50 PM

 
 
 
I'll start this one out. . . .

6/19/2013 7:13:06 PM

  This was the one thing I was really sad to have missed out on. Dawson loved anything to do with space, and I would have loved to have been able to see the Milky Way for him :)

6/19/2013 8:34:02 PM

  I will say this is the part of the trip I wanted most also. this is one awesome image. going in my favorites I may have to get a copy of this one for my grandson, he loves space also teresa

6/20/2013 10:27:16 AM

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My version of Mike's image. I didn't realize I was zoomed in on my 24-70 lens. But I like this closer-up POV. I think the reflected rays give the sensation of a hole opening up beneath the figure -- vertical motion instead of horizontal.

6/20/2013 11:20:14 PM

  You are right, Stephen, the tighter POV creates a completely different feel. I like it.

6/21/2013 7:59:00 AM

  I really like it also Stephen love the color and sensation you created. very nice

6/21/2013 8:04:28 AM

  Love your shot Stephen!

6/21/2013 11:29:44 AM

Stephen Shoff
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  Thanks folks.

I really like the setting Jeff picked for the Milky Way pictures. I missed that in my efforts.

6/21/2013 7:40:50 PM

  Jeff, this is a very beautiful night exposure and love that mily way.

Stephen, your above shot is a winner IMHO. The zoom working magic here!!!

UB.

6/24/2013 9:00:55 PM

  Very impressive work, Jeff and Stephen. I am in awe of both images!

6/25/2013 7:44:10 AM

 
 
  Color at Night  Happy 4th of July
Color at Night Happy 4th of July
Canon EOS 7D, Tamron 18-270mm, f/8, 229 seconds, ISO 160.
Was Jeff suppose to be holding this as it shot?
 
  Spinning
Spinning
Canon EOS 7D, Tamron 18-270mm, f/8, 229 seconds, ISO 160
 
  Stars and Orbs
Stars and Orbs
Canon EOS 7D, Tamron 18-270mm, f/5.6, 229 seconds, ISO 160
 
  Watch OUt Elaine!!!
Watch OUt Elaine!!!
For some reason a lot of stuff kept coming towards Elaine!
Canon EOS 7D, Tamron 18-270mm, f/8, 182 seconds, ISO 160
 
 
Here are a few of mine!

6/26/2013 3:28:22 PM

  These are great Beth!

I find the 2 glowing eyes in Watch out Elaine a bit ominous. LOL!

6/26/2013 10:19:05 PM

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  That color at night is pretty unique, Elaine. Nice set.

6/27/2013 5:47:59 PM

 
 
  Oh My!!!
Oh My!!!
Canon 7D, Tamron 18-270mm lens, 6sec., f/6.3, ISO 160
 
  I Hate When This Happens
I Hate When This Happens
Canon 7D, Tamron 18-270mm lens, 6sec., f/6.3, ISO 160
 
 
These almost meet the requirements. These were the poor eggs that Jeff and Doug were shooting, and what a great decorating job by his kids!

7/1/2013 6:03:53 AM

  love your titles theses were great shots Beth it must have been fun to watch also.

7/1/2013 8:41:42 AM

 
 
  Orbs
Orbs
 
  Fun with Steel Wool
Fun with Steel Wool
 
  More Fun with Steel Wool...
More Fun with Steel Wool...
 
 
Here are three of mine-finally!

9/14/2013 2:29:57 PM

  Looks Great!! I want to do it again!!"

9/14/2013 6:36:36 PM

  these are awesome shot Elaine it looks like so much fun. I hope I don't have to miss the next time.

9/15/2013 1:26:50 PM

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  36 .  Phello Photographers Club Trip - Flowers
This is for Peter's benefit

6/19/2013 1:21:41 PM

 
 
  Mountain Flowers
Mountain Flowers
 
 
Kinda like the POV on this one. . .

6/19/2013 8:15:15 PM

  I love the POV! However what I want to know is if anyone got a photo of you capturing this POV :)

6/19/2013 8:32:32 PM

  it almost looks like flower perfume coming out of the flower with the way the sky is. very cool

6/20/2013 10:25:15 AM

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  I didn't take a picture...just watched.
Jeff didn't have to work as hard as I did. He just put is ff camera with his 14mm ulta WA set to a small aperture on the ground and took the picture. Somewhere in that huge field of view there was bound to be a composition.

6/20/2013 2:33:21 PM

  Now, Stephen, don't be giving away my secrets. . .

6/20/2013 5:01:56 PM

 
 
  Glacier Lilly
Glacier Lilly
Canon EOS 7D, Tamron 18-270mm lens, 1/40, f/8, ISO 100
 
 
There were several of these on the mountain. This is a Glacier Lilly very similar to our Trout Lilly in the east!

6/21/2013 5:03:00 AM

  very nice I like the pov on this one Beth

6/21/2013 7:29:06 AM

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  Thanks for naming those for me Beth. I spent a lot of time on these in a couple of locations.

6/21/2013 2:36:00 PM

 
 
  Rose Detail
Rose Detail

1/160 Sec - f/8 - ISO 1250 - 100mm
 
 
One (of many) from Temple Square.

6/26/2013 5:48:59 AM

  I like this one I like how the dark edge is on the petals.

6/26/2013 7:27:22 AM

 
 
  Purple Flowers
Purple Flowers
Canon 7d, Tamron 19-270mm, f/8, 1/60, ISO 400
 
  Dream Flowers
Dream Flowers
Canon 7d, Tamron 19-270mm, f/8, 1/60, ISO 400, edited in LR4, Viveza and Color Effex Pro4
 
 
Here is some purple flowers from Salt Lake City, same shot, just added some filters. Yes Jeff, they were "Purple"

6/28/2013 6:36:21 PM

 
 
  The Inside
The Inside
Canon 7D, Tamron 18-270mm lens, 1/25, f/9, ISO 100
 
 
There was still beauty in this one even though the petals had fallen off!

6/28/2013 7:20:28 PM

  These are pretty Beth! I really like what the filters didi on the purple flowers. :)

6/28/2013 8:13:12 PM

  very nice Beth I like all of them.

7/6/2013 5:29:21 AM

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  37 .  Phello Photographers Club Trip - Wildlife
Pictures of Dale don't count

6/19/2013 1:20:42 PM

 
 
  Photo Bomb
Photo Bomb
 
 
I don't think I got a single wildlife image on the trip, so this guy will have to do.

6/21/2013 8:02:59 AM

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  Desert Spiny Lizard
Desert Spiny Lizard
f/6.3, 1/80 sec., ISO 400, +0.3 exp. comp; Tamron E 18-200 f/3.5-6.3 OSS@300mm

Navajo Trail, Zion Nat'l Park

 
 
I didn't get one during the Phello's weekend either. I missed a chance at a nice spider on one of the sun flowers.

But I got this one way.

6/21/2013 7:20:58 PM

 
 
  Hawk
Hawk
Canon 7d, Tamron 18*270mm, 1/800, f/6.3, ISO 320
 
  Here He Comes
Here He Comes
Canon 7d, Tamron 18*270mm, 1/800, f/6.3, ISO 320, Not sure, who he was after.
 
 
I tried to get the hawk!

6/28/2013 7:10:24 PM

  Not bad! Those are tough to get!

7/25/2013 5:08:10 PM

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  38 .  Phello Photographers Club Trip - Uniquely Utah
Something only found in Utah (Pictures of me don't count)

6/19/2013 1:19:22 PM

 
 
  The Spiral Jetty
The Spiral Jetty

1/200 Sec - f/9 - ISO 160 - 84mm
 
 
Gotta come to Utah to see this. . .

6/19/2013 8:05:43 PM

  I wonder how many times I can say I wish I could have gone before I start sounding like a broken record. :)

Beautiful image Jeff!

6/19/2013 8:31:40 PM

  I am so with you Teresa, even if I know I made the right decision.

Jeff I really like the POV on this

6/20/2013 10:22:25 AM

  That was the coolest thing. I've got some I need to work on-mine don't look that nice yet:)

6/27/2013 10:41:42 AM

 
 
  The Conference Center
The Conference Center

1/20 Sec - f/5 - ISO 3200 - 14mm
Canon 5D Mk III - Canon 14mm f/2.8L
 
 
Inside the Conference Center

6/29/2013 5:43:02 PM

  Wow!!

6/29/2013 6:33:10 PM

  that's a really cool shot I like it in B/W

6/30/2013 10:28:58 AM

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  39 .  Phello Photographers Club Trip - Candid Phello
It will be hard to beat the shot of Dale sleeping in the car, but still worth the try.

6/19/2013 1:18:08 PM

 
 
  The Day After
The Day After
 
 
Ok, you asked for it:)

P.S. Thank you so much for driving us EVERYWHERE! Especially on 2 hrs of sleep!!!

6/19/2013 4:33:02 PM

  Ha! Too funny.

6/19/2013 5:12:50 PM

 
 
  Beth
Beth
 
 
Beth, hard at work. I'm sure the resulting image is fantastic!

6/19/2013 7:59:23 PM

  Love it! A cyclops!

6/19/2013 8:04:43 PM

  LOL!! These are great! Can't wait to see the rest. :)

6/19/2013 8:30:45 PM

  nice captures....

6/20/2013 10:28:48 AM

 
 
  Dale
Dale
 
  Dale Watching Jeff
Dale Watching Jeff
 
  Beth taking her beautiful mountain/stream pic
Beth taking her beautiful mountain/stream pic
 
  Dale and Jeff
Dale and Jeff
 
  Jeff with his contraption
Jeff with his contraption
 
 
Here are a few more-no PP, just for giggles.

6/20/2013 10:46:19 AM

 
 
  What are they talking about?
What are they talking about?
Pictured here are Jeff and Stephen, of course, and Jeff's good friend, Doug, whom also likes to blow stuff up.
 
 
One more.

6/20/2013 10:51:04 AM

  Uh, the one of Dale and Jeff is actually Dale and Stephen. . .

6/20/2013 11:04:09 AM

  Ugh. How did I make that mistake??? Sorry bout that-too much multitasking going on over here at the homestead. Back to reality...

6/20/2013 11:29:06 AM

  great shot Elaine....the last is the best what were you thinking Jeff?

6/20/2013 9:06:01 PM

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  Spring Blossoms
Spring Blossoms
f22.0, 1/100 sec, ISO 100; EF 24-70 f/2.8L@50mm
 
 
Here is where this picture properly belongs. Thanks for the comments, but I don't think I'll clone out the distractions.

6/20/2013 9:19:17 PM

  I like it as is. You took it this way for this reason.

6/21/2013 5:09:51 AM

  Stephen I don't think anyone really wanted you to clone them out, we were mostly giving Jeff a had time. because we all knew it wasn't a shot that you were trying to improve on but sharing. but the bloom is beautiful in it.

6/21/2013 7:28:01 AM

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  I recognized that, Rita.

6/21/2013 2:33:48 PM

 
 
  Cheat Sheets
Cheat Sheets
 
 
Elaine shoots Nikon, she needs all the help she can get. . .

6/23/2013 12:15:00 PM

  Ha. I guess I deserved that one. :)

6/23/2013 12:22:10 PM

  LOL!! So funny :)

6/23/2013 12:45:51 PM

 
 
  Beth
Beth
 
 
Beth, looking for the trees among the forest. . .

6/23/2013 12:47:15 PM

  Elaine now that is a cannon snob for you.....LOL Beth Jeff is just jealous because he forgot to look up....LOL OH bye the way Jeff great spying!

6/23/2013 3:05:44 PM

 
 
  Red Carpet
Red Carpet
 
 
We rolled out the (well-used) red carpet for Beth. . .

6/23/2013 3:26:22 PM

  Funny!!!

6/23/2013 8:20:26 PM

 
 
  Proper Use Of a Tripod
Proper Use Of a Tripod
Not sure if Stephen is doing a self portrait, taking a nap or getting close up shots. :)
 
 
These are good, still trying to get to some

6/26/2013 8:55:16 AM

  laughing this was a good one Beth! so Stephen can you fill us in.....

6/26/2013 9:34:45 AM

  Funny!

6/26/2013 10:21:39 PM

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  I think the answer to that question, Rita, is in Peter's bailiwick.

6/27/2013 5:24:44 PM

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  Meadow and Ridge
Meadow and Ridge
 
  Meadow flowers
Meadow flowers
 
 
The mundane answer was Beth's 3rd option. This 2nd shooting site of the day had wonderful layer content. I had been shooting wide-angle using my 24-70 lens on my full-frame camera. Then I shifted to my 100mm macro on a crop-sensor 50D to try to get some macro images of the very small wildflowers very low on the ground. This might have worked if I hadn't very strategically placed that one blade of grass exactly centered in front of my primary subject.

Have at it, though , Peter.

6/27/2013 5:40:57 PM

 
 
  Dale
Dale
Dale is deciding if it is worth using his tripod
 
  Meeting Of The Minds
Meeting Of The Minds
I'm pretty sure there is a serious discussion going on with Dale, Stephen and Mike
 
  Entertainment Crew
Entertainment Crew
Jeff and his buddy Rusty scouting out the place!
 
  Jeff Went That Way!
Jeff Went That Way!
Elaine pointing out Jeff's whereabouts!
 
  Over Here
Over Here
He couldn't get too far from us!
 
 
Here are a few from various times and places on Saturday!

6/28/2013 8:07:03 AM

  Dang you Beth, I pulled this up during a meeting at work and had to bite my tongue to keep from laughing. I may need a band-aid.

6/28/2013 8:21:16 AM

  Jeff, I have told you the ER Motto "All bleeding stops Eventually" Hope you don't lose too much blood! LOL!

6/28/2013 8:25:21 AM

  LOL!! Thanks for entertaining me while I'm at work :)

6/28/2013 8:30:25 AM

  very funny indeed

7/1/2013 1:48:29 PM

 
 
  Getting the Right Shot
Getting the Right Shot
 
 
STILL working on the Utah pics-one more!

10/4/2013 1:08:06 PM

 
 
  Reflecting on Reflections...
Reflecting on Reflections...
 
 
And another one...

10/4/2013 1:10:18 PM

  What a great collection of fun stuff. I'm so jealous!

10/4/2013 9:46:06 PM

 
 
  Enjoying the day
Enjoying the day
If I am remember right, this was taken after we found my glasses on the dirt road. They inadvertently fell out of Jeff's car a few miles back when I opened the door to try to help get a branch out from under the car.

It was a miracle they didn't break. Although it is funny-I broke them last week and they are in CA for repairs...

 
 
Another one!

10/11/2013 12:32:34 PM

  I remember that! It is amazing that you did find them...Nice shot!

10/11/2013 2:02:28 PM

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Something captured whitle traveling, about travel, etc

6/19/2013 1:15:49 PM

 
 
 
Here is a little shot taken on a country road as I drove north in Utah.

6/19/2013 8:06:36 PM

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  Tough Trip
Tough Trip
I had a tough time getting to the Phellos meet-up this year.

Zion Nat'l Park.

 
  Next Step
Next Step
 
 
Now that the folders are up, I'll add my contribution

6/20/2013 9:23:36 PM

  Nice shots, and it looks pretty early in the day.

6/28/2013 7:09:18 PM

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