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Have questions about the lens of 35mm cameras? Maybe you're wondering what are the basic parts of a 35mm Camera. Whatever 35mm camera information you are looking for you can find it in this Q&A and this review section: 35mm Film Cameras.

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Photography Question 
rajesh kumar

member since: 10/3/2004
  1 .  Which Film Camera is Suitable for a Beginner?
I'm a beginner in photography. I would like to buy one film camera. Would you please suggest one? I need better quality - my range is $400 to 450.

1/7/2005 6:00:54 AM

Kerry L. Walker

member since: 12/21/2004
  There is no one camera that is the best. The cameras by all the major manufacturers are good. Canon, Minolta, Pentax and Nikon all offer good cameras in your price range. Pick the one that fits your hands the best and has the features you want. Automation is good but you will need manual controls also.

1/7/2005 7:35:03 AM

Scott Pedersen

member since: 11/18/2001
  Pentax has nice cameras. I have always been satisfied with my ME-Super. Compact and will can be used fully manual if needed. Of course on the modern ones you have auto focus and apature. Lots of great tools on them. Im assuming that you budget is for camera body and lens. Looks like the ist or one of the zx series is what you want. Check out B and H or Ritz camera too for a kit. body and lens. They have diffent ones. Probobly shoot for focal coverage in the 28 to 100 mm range. That should be a good starter for you. You can add later depending on what you want to do. The modern lenses are for the most part quite nice as far as sharpness. They are going to be slower of course than high end lenses. Now remember a high end lens will run you oh 700 bucks and up I would say. everybody starts with the lens that comes on the camera and goes from there.

1/11/2005 5:13:33 AM

Willie 

member since: 12/2/2004
  Hello Rajesh,
Let me know if you are still interested in buying a film camera.
I have one for sale.
If you are interested, email me
at willie@astconline.com

Thanks
Willie

1/12/2005 2:23:12 AM

Jacob P. Eubanks

member since: 1/16/2005
  Personally, I would recommend you find yourself an older manual SLR ( I use a mamiya Sekor 1000 DTL, preferably one with the K Mount (m42) like a pentax k1000 or the 1000 Dtl. These cameras take very clear, beautiful pictures (especially in Black and White) and are easy to learn on. Likewise, the lenses have come way down in price (i have about 10 lenses in my setup and Ive spent less than 150 bucks). These Lenses are also usable on modern day cameras. You could probally pick up a camera and a few lenses for around $100. Whats really nice about this is, if you decide it's not for you, you're really only ouyt 100 bucks, on a camera that holds its market value.

1/16/2005 5:34:20 PM

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Photography Question 
Brittany Erin Hyatt

member since: 8/11/2004
  2 .  Beginner ... Help Please!
I have never purchased a camera in my life, although I am currently looking into it. I would like a 35mm fully manual camera. If you could give me some idea of what direction to start off in when looking for one of those - or just give me a few suggestions - I would really appreciate it.

8/11/2004 2:13:07 PM

Bob Cammarata
BetterPhoto Member
cammphoto.com

member since: 7/17/2003
  Hi Brittany,
For fully-manual SLRs ... think "Used". You can save money by purchasing a previously owned or re-furbished manual SLR body, and use the savings to get better lenses and accessories.
As a longtime Nikon user, I can fully recommend a Nikon FM10, which can be found new or used, or its predecessor, the FM2, first manufactured in the early eighties, but still available used, and a real workhorse! (I still use the one I bought new in 1984, and it works flawlessly.)
Be cautious when buying ANY used camera equipment, though. As long as the dealer/seller is reputable, you're usually OK. But make sure there is a return policy.
Happy hunting!

8/11/2004 7:03:18 PM

Paul 

member since: 7/22/2004
  I have a Minolta X700 and love it.

8/16/2004 12:25:57 PM

Nancy 

member since: 3/6/2003
  Look on the Ebay site. I have purchased 4 bodies for 2 different cameras. All in working order. 2 Nikon FG bodies and 2 Canon A-1 bodies. My partner uses the Nikon and I perfer the Canon. We both purchased our orginal equipment in 1980's. so we have 6 interchangeable lenses for each brand. With that much investment in good lenses it made sense to just get more bodies. I would still use Ebay and purchase a later model. You can check out reputation of the vendors and also look for ones with a comment of 'just serviced'.

8/17/2004 4:34:28 PM

Robert Bridges

member since: 5/12/2003
  Used Canon and Pentax's are good too. Problem with the Canon is the inability to utilize the latest greatest Non FD mount lenses. Not sure but thinks Pentax lenses are interchangeable with newer Pentax cameras. Nothing wrong with the Nikon either.

8/17/2004 11:43:12 PM

Steve Warren

member since: 7/18/2004
  I used to have a Pentax K1000, which was amazingly tough. I'd highly recommend that or a Canon AE-1, which I have now.

8/23/2004 8:40:25 AM

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Photography Question 
Charles 

member since: 7/14/2004
  3 .  Good Places to Sell My Manual Camera?
 
I've just recently purchased a digital camera, so I've decided to sell one of the two Nikon FM2n 35mm cameras that I own, along with a 50mm lens and some good Vivitar flashes (all the stuff is excellent condition). However, I live in El Paso, Texas, where there is not much of a market for photo equipment; and I've looked into selling on ebay, but their fees seem way too high, and it's too much of a hassle (they want your bank account number as well as your credit card number!). So I was wondering if the good people of this site knew of any good places to sell, on the Internet or elsewhere. All replies will be welcome, and if anyone here is interested, I'll give you a good deal.

7/14/2004 5:06:03 PM

  Charles: I have sold camera equipment on ebay and got top dollar - more than I would have gotten anywhere else that I know of. More than two friends (who wanted my Canon D60 when I was selling that) offered me. A lot more. Cheers!

7/14/2004 6:43:51 PM

Charles 

member since: 7/14/2004
  Thanks, Peter, for your quick response. Maybe I will try to go through ebay after all. The lure of extra capital is always great.

7/14/2004 6:47:55 PM

  Charles: There is not a huge demand for older, manual-focus cameras anywhere, but I still think you will net more on ebay than anywhere else that I know of. And Nikon or Canon products in very good condition always bring decent money.

7/14/2004 6:56:02 PM

Blanca Acosta
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 4/12/2004
  I'd be interested in the Nikon. What lens does it have? How much would you want for it? When buying a conventional camera one has to think that good films are expensive. Sometimes it's better to wait and buy a good digital camera. For the time being I have a Nikon Coolpix 2500, decent. I'd want a better camera, but I'm not wiling to pay much because the costs involved in a film camera.

7/20/2004 2:00:18 AM

Melinda Wheeler

member since: 4/3/2001
  You might want to look at similar cameras on ebay and see what they are selling for and then compare what KEH in Atlanta will give you for it. Unless you are already a seller on Ebay, it may be more trouble than it's worth.

7/20/2004 5:55:46 AM

Tahnya B.

member since: 4/27/2004
  Try www.photogon.com. The website allows you to sell your photography equipment. Very easy.

7/20/2004 7:32:06 AM

Charles 

member since: 7/14/2004
  Thanks for all the responses. I ended up selling the camera (body only) to a local shop. I got $140 for it; which seemed to be MORE than the going rate on Ebay for chrome models in good condition (mine had some cosmetic wear). Considering that I purchased the camera nine years ago for about $225, I'm relatively pleased.

Tahnya...I'll keep photogon.com in mind for some of the other stuff (a couple Nikkor lens and Vivitar flashes) that I still want to sell.

7/20/2004 8:34:17 AM

Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member
gregorylagrange.org

member since: 11/11/2003
  could've tried UTEP. photojourn major or photoart major could have been interested. give a call to any of the teachers there to tell the students.

7/20/2004 10:24:38 AM

George Anderson

member since: 7/6/2005
  "There is not a huge demand for older, manual-focus cameras anywhere".

This isn't true AT ALL. In fact, prices for better quality brand-name manual-focus SLRs have stabilized and are even increasing in some markets for MF metal bodies in nice condition. It is rather the autofocus 35mm and older-generation digital SLRs that are in fact dropping in price like a stone relative to their original selling price.

Metal-bodied, metal-geared MF SLR cameras have an increasingly strong collector and hobbyist following. They have never lost any popularity among macro and night photography enthusiasts, of course. Furthermore, older-era manual focus SLRs that become inoperative can often be easily repaired and returned to service, where autofocus 35mm and digital SLRs will be virtually worthless as working cameras once manufacturers discontinue the production of replacement LCD panels, microcircuit boards, IC parts, plastic gears, and other hardware necessary to their continued functioning. One can already see this phenomenon in the autofocus SLRs piling up in increasing numbers in the 'inop/as-is' bins of various camera shops, with bleeding LCDs, broken plastic lens mounts, and dead computers, waiting for the arrival of the junk man.


7/18/2005 5:00:01 PM

  Hello Charles,
I am interested in Your flash units. Are you still wanting to sell them?

7/19/2005 8:00:29 AM

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Photography Question 
Natasha 

member since: 6/2/2004
  4 .  Which Is the Best Beginner's Camera to Buy?
I'm just a beginner in photography. I want to buy a good SLR manual camera for beginners. I have been recommended the Nikon SLR FM10. Is it a good choice? Which one would you suggest?

6/2/2004 8:23:43 PM

  Natasha: Well, there are not many basic SLR's out there these days, and the FM10 is as good as any. Cheers!

6/3/2004 6:36:42 AM

doug Nelson
DougNelsonPhoto.com

member since: 6/14/2001
  As the resident geezer here, I recommend manual focus, manual exposure-setting SLR's, of which the Nikon FM10 is one. A Nikon FM3A is a bit more expensive, but a pro quality, durable, metal-bodied camera. If you would consider buying used, the Nikon FM and FM2 are good buys as well. Of the major brands of camera, none made a bad 50mm lens, so it's hard to go wrong with even the cheapest of 50's. With Nikons, stick to AI or AIS lenses. My Web page has comments about Canon as used cameras, but only because they are plentiful, relatively cheap, and offer excellent optics for the money. KEH.com is a used dealer that replaces the foam seals and foam mirror bumpers on all used cameras.

6/3/2004 12:37:28 PM

Bob Cammarata
BetterPhoto Member
cammphoto.com

member since: 7/17/2003
  I, too, highly recommend the manual-everything Nikons to learn the basics of photography from the ground up. A used FM or FM2 is likely to be rather old, and you should buy one of these wisely. If you can find one which has been recently serviced or refurbished by Nikon or other reputable facility, it would definitely be worth checking out. This will save you hundreds of dollars over the price of a new body, which can be invested toward better lenses and accessories.

6/3/2004 2:01:04 PM

Marvin Swetzer

member since: 12/25/2003
  Just pick up a Canon TX off of Ebay. I only use used cameras and haven't had to have any repairs. I also use a couple of Canon ex ee's. I have paid as little as $8.00 for great cameras. New cameras aren't worth what they cost, and they get old too.

6/3/2004 7:56:35 PM

Marvin Swetzer

member since: 12/25/2003
  I forgot to tell you the meter in a Canon TX uses a 1.3-volt mercury battery. You can get them on the Internet, and there are a couple of ways around the mercury battery. You would be better off with any camera to use a light meter. You don't need a battery in a TX to fire the shutter. If you really want to use the camera meter, you may be better off with a Canon AT-1.

6/3/2004 8:16:40 PM

Marvin Swetzer

member since: 12/25/2003
  I just checked out www.dougnelsonphoto.com
Do what he says. He knows what he is talking about.

6/3/2004 8:25:20 PM

John A. Lind
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 9/27/2001
  Don't forget about the Nikon FE2 also - same era as the FM2. It has aperture priority auto-exposure (as well as full manual control) and can control many of the Nikon SB flash units from that era onward using TTL metering. BTW, Nikon continued production of the FM2n until a few years ago. They made them for a very long time. As a result, there's quite an age range among the FM2n's in the used market. With some careful shopping you should be able to find a relatively young one. IMVHO, cosmetic and operating condition are still more important than age. I'd rather have one 5 years older in fully functional and pristine cosmetic condition than one that's obviously taken a beating cosmetically. Cosmetic condition is usually a good indicator of functional condition and how much it has been used. It's not 100-percent accurate and requires a thorough evaluation of its functional condition, but it can help narrow down the field and make finding one in excellent working condition easier.

6/3/2004 10:07:30 PM

Tom Walker

member since: 3/12/2004
  While all those comments from the "Nikon" crowd are true, (I also have a couple of old Nikkormats), I would suggest a Pentax K1000 - a good, durable manual-everything camera with an abundance of reasonable-priced lenses available from many mfrs. I have one I've been using for over 20 years, and it's still my back-up.

6/4/2004 4:03:11 PM

Scott Pedersen

member since: 11/18/2001
  I'd recommend the Pentax ZX-M. Pentaxes are a compact, fun to use camera and if it stands up as well as my ME-Super you will have it for years.

6/8/2004 4:41:33 AM

Thanos Papadopoulos

member since: 6/4/2004
  I also think an olympus om system is a good choise, especially olympus om2 SP.
The zuiko lenses are great with fine optics and very cheap (the nikkors are still expensive even the old ones. I have and use both cameras -nikon fm2 and olympus om10 - both from ebay and I am very pleased from these two babies. I am fun of the used camera idea, u can buy camera, wide, normal and telephoto lens with less than 100 euro. At the end an old camera can do the same things with a new is much cheaper and u can learn much more about the art of photograph

6/8/2004 5:12:25 AM

  Let me add my two cents in with all of these great answers.

First off, it's a new day in photography. The options are literally endless, with more options appearing daily.

If you want to learn the craft of photography, shoot slide film in a camera that will allow you to manually operate everything.

If you're only interested in using pictures for emailing or uploading, a digitial camera would be fine. Any of the mid level Nikon Coolpix cameras and Canon G2 series cameras would do you well.

If you're interested in making larger prints 13x19 and larger, a film based camera would be best right now.

If you don't want to sit at the computer processing images all day, a film based camera is best.

If you want more dependable archiving, a film camera is best.

If you're doing travel pics or candids and want a camera that will do everything for you, exposure-wise for faster shooting, a medium to high end digital would be best.

If you plan on photographing weddings or people events, a high end digital camera may be best.

Finally, there is no "right" camera. Your first question to yourself should be, "What do I want to do with my photography?" Then, look for the appropriate tool (camera).

Hope this helps.

6/8/2004 5:13:19 AM

Allan Yates

member since: 2/21/2004
  Natasha - As others have said, I don't think you can go wrong with a Nikon FM2n. If you can't find a good used one that you like, the Nikon FM3a, successor to the FM2n would be an excellent choice. Good luck!

6/8/2004 6:43:01 AM

Michael McCullough

member since: 6/11/2002
  I really like the Minolta SRT 101,for a manual focus body,has mirror lockup half the cost of used Nikon,just as hardy if not more durable and a really good selection of MC MD lenses available!!!!

6/8/2004 8:41:59 AM

Raymond W. Earley

member since: 1/27/2003
  Hi 5's Tom W I love my pentax k1000! I have had it for over 10 years now and it is still my back up as well. I would agree manual camera's are great to start and learn on. I would suggest any camera with M mode would do fine ( I would sugest SLR however). This way when you feel you got the basics down, you don't have to run out and buy another SLR with auto focus and exposure. For faster subjects you can just use the camera you have.

7/19/2004 9:33:34 AM

Erica Butler
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 6/3/2005
  I started out with a Canon AE1 and a 50mm lens. I loved it, and it's a great camera. I also hear good things about old Nikon's and the Pentax K1000.

Good luck!

6/30/2005 9:15:46 PM

Kevin Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 5/20/2005
  Nikon FE2(1983)

This was the best of the FE/FM line at the time.

Shutter speeds from (8 seconds-1/4000 with flash sync of 1/250)TTL flash capability.

AI-AIS lens only. (Prong does not fold up)

Metering is 60% center-weighted controlled by 2 silicone diodes, providing a metering range of EV 1-18.

Exposure compensation of +/-2 stops in 1/3 stop increments.

Fixed prism with 93% picture field. 3 interchangable screens (K2,B2,E2)

Can add a MD-12 motor drive.
Date back was also available.

I've seen this camera sell on e-Bay for under 200.00. If you can find one in nice condition, this camera is a ROCKET.

7/1/2005 12:45:34 AM

Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member
gregorylagrange.org

member since: 11/11/2003
  Where do these two come from-

Have to buy a camera that only has manual everything, instead turning off auto focus and turn a mode switch to a big M that stands for manual

You'll be at the computer all day if you get a digital camera, instead of 30 minutes, hour, maybe 2 hours.

7/1/2005 1:05:36 AM

Kevin Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 5/20/2005
  I agree, Just turn the dial to M and your manual.

The FE2 offers electronic capabilities, but simply turn the dial and your full manual.

Simple as that with many cameras.

7/1/2005 1:19:11 AM

Tom Walker

member since: 3/12/2004
  AS you can see, when you ask 10 photographers "What's the best camera?" expect 10 different replyes. Figure out exactly what you want to do in photography, pick a camera that lets you do that and feels comfortable in your hand. Myself, I could never get used to nikons backward lens mount and battery covers, but it's all a matter of taste.

7/5/2005 4:22:10 PM

Cathrine 

member since: 6/7/2005
  I don't know what model camera to recommend but I do know that I have taken 100x the pictures since getting my digital camera, experimenting like I never did when I had to consider the cost of film. And I practice using appropriate settings when I'm photographing and spend little time 'post processing' Just advice from my experience good luck!

7/5/2005 5:35:28 PM

Steve Warren
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 9/1/2004
  I have a Pentax K1000 and highly recommend it. It's as tough as a brick.

This is my 2nd K1000 as my first was stolen after traveling around the world with me and taking all sorts of abuse from my carelessness and butterfingers, but it never stopped working.

AF I like Maxxums by Minolta

7/13/2005 7:05:15 PM

Marvin Swetzer

member since: 12/25/2003
  Who cares? This question is over a year old. What are you guys doing?

Forget film unless you are going to use large format. Like it or not, it's digital now.

7/13/2005 8:53:03 PM

John Werner
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 6/8/2005
  Yo Marvin,

If the questions is so old how come you answered it? People like to talk. So someone misread the date, big deal. Don't be a dick!

7/14/2005 4:21:10 AM

Steve Warren
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 9/1/2004
  Marvin,

Pop Photo ran a story recently that the Canon EOS 1DS Mark II can give you better image quality than film.

Until I can get that quality without spending $8000 for a body with no lens, film is still the better choice by far.

There is no digital SLR on the market that can give the quality of film for a comparable PRICE.

For 8 grand, I can get any top-of-the-line film SLR, 3 or 4 high quality lenses, a bunch of film and processing, and have a bunch of change left over.

The original question was what is a good camera for a beginner, and the best way is still a manual focus film camera.

7/14/2005 6:38:41 AM

Kevin Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 5/20/2005
  I tip my hat to Steve.
For the average consumer film is still the best qaulity.
I do know digital will take over, but until then I shoot with my Nikon film cameras and enjoy great images at any size.

7/14/2005 11:37:23 AM

Kathy L. Pollick
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 7/14/2005
  The field of camera choices is endless & the options they offer are even greater. WHERE does a person start??!! I presently have a minolta maxxum which my husband purchased, probably 10 years ago. It's still in perfect shape but I haven't begun to use ANY Of the features on it. I STILL don't know how to do manual ANYTHING. I have tried, but really not sure what all the settings do. Is the minolta maxxum a good camera to learn the basics on? I also want to get a good digital camera & was reading the Canon EOS 20D was one of the best. Any comments on either of these cameras? Thanks

7/14/2005 11:46:52 AM

shannon casey

member since: 4/26/2003
  I consider myself a "perpetual novice". The two cameras that I own that I feel have the the most to offer, in terms of learning photography, are my Nikon FM-10, and my Canon 20D. I am completely serious! If I had to favor one over the other, cost aside, I would go with the 20D. (Like I say, whenever I screw up a shot, which is most of the time, I wish it was digital. Whenever I'm pleased with a shot, I wish it was film!). I consider the digital's ability to record exposure information to be a great learning tool. I don't need to worry about writing down my camera settings, all of the information is stored in there. I can expirement all I want, at no additional cost. The point is, I do go back and look at this information, and try to remember it when I'm shooting with a film SLR, like my good old FM-10. This method, screwey as it sounds, is working for me. One other thing about the 20D.....My laptop crashed two months ago. So although I still use the 20D, I haven't been doing any photoshop work because my desktop doesn't have a burner. Again, purely by experience; I've noticed that the shots I have printed out, right off the cf card, at any decent local mini lab, with no manipulation at all, look great to me in terms of sharpness and color. Much better than anything I ever tried to fool around with. They look as good as film to me. I like the challenge of the FM-10. I like the convenience of my Canon AF film cameras. But in terms of pure learning, I think a digital slr should be considered as well. I think that digital photography will keep film alive. Everyone's buying digital these days. A small percentage of those will be drawn more into photography, and will want to shoot film. It will becaome trendy again. It's like good cooking, or good wine. Just a matter of time.

Those are just my thoughts, as of now, on the "great debate".

7/14/2005 4:39:09 PM

Kevin Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 5/20/2005
  Canon Price : $ 1,995.95


Mail-In Rebate: $ 100.00
Shipping Cost

EOS 20D, 8.2 Megapixel, SLR, Digital Camera with Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM Autofocus

This 8meg camera is very nice but still falls short of film quality.
I could go into my shpeal about 40 billion silver halide yada,yada. But I feel most people already know this.
I could pick up my FG and shoot better quality pictures.My Fg cost me 100.00 dollars. Film is cheap,a couple bucks a roll. Digital requires disc.I know you can use your desk top to print but you still pay for paper and ink.It cost you either way.
This thread was about a starter camera and the best deals. the canon is a fine camera but not a great deal or great starter camera.

7/14/2005 9:14:55 PM

Marvin Swetzer

member since: 12/25/2003
  I use film all the time, but I can see what is happening. Digital is improving and should be as good as 35mm soon. Is film still better if you compair digital to 110?

If you want huge enlargements use film and a tripod, but if you just want pictures use digital and you don't need to spend $8,000.

7/15/2005 3:18:24 AM

Jill  Skaggs
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 11/10/2004
  Like some have said on here, you ask 10 different photographers and you will get 10 different answers. I started out with a Yashica manuel many years ago, I am now using a Minolta Maxxum which can be switched either AF or MF. I will not go back to total mauel again. I use the camera at times on both settings, I love the advantage of having both settings to choose from. Sometimes you have that special picture that you need to snap right now and manuel just doesn't get it. Other times you have the time to adjust and tweek the settings. And as far as digital, until they get one that the normal everyday amature photographer can afford, I will stick to film. How can you justify $3,000-$8,000 for a camera that you don't make a living with. When that get them down within reason, I will have a digital camera but not until.

7/18/2005 3:12:18 PM

Larry T. Miller

member since: 9/29/2003
  Natasha;
Most everything mentioned so far is pretty good to start with. One excpetion is the FM-10. I'm not sure about that one. A lot of people started out with the Nikkormat FTN, the FE2, the FM or FM2N. Either one of these should give you what you want and need.

7/28/2005 1:38:13 PM

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Rana Bhadra

member since: 6/2/2004
  5 .  Please Help Me Buy a Camera
I want to buy an SLR camera. I have two choices: 1) Canon Eso Elan 7e, and 2) Nikon N80. Which is the best? Which one will give sharp, very good pictures?

6/2/2004 12:42:49 AM

  Rana: Both are excellent, full-featured cameras ... but any camera can make sharp images if you use a high-quality lens and suitable technique - such as a tripod in low-light photography. Regardless of the camera you buy, start with a better lens than the $90 (28-80mm) zoom, often included in kits. Expect to pay about $200 for a better- quality zoom. Discuss your needs and plans with a reputable dealer as to which lens to buy. Or, start a new thread here, as to What is the Best Starter Lens? Cheers!

6/3/2004 6:39:45 AM

Gregg Vieregge

member since: 11/10/2000
  What's better, a Lincoln or a Cadillac? Hard to say which is better. I am a Nikon person for no special reason other than I started with a N6006. I've owned the N70 and also N90 and currently shoot digitally with the Fuji S2 pro which is exactly like the N80. It's a very good and dependable lens. As far as a lens try the new sigma 24-135 f2.8-4.5. (77mm and $319) Just got mine and I'm impressed.

Good Luck.

6/8/2004 5:17:22 AM

Michael McCullough

member since: 6/11/2002
  I've owned and shot at least two rolls of film through an F80,over the last three years and never had any at all problems,have even used it in minus 30 degrees centigrade,great little camera IMHO,at a reasonable price nowadays!!!!

6/8/2004 8:47:50 AM

Chad Koski

member since: 6/16/2004
  If you are still looking for an answer to your question, I have an N80, and I love it. I find it very easy to use and have had no problems. Mine is paired with a Tamron 28-300 lens which I also like very much.

6/19/2004 12:27:58 PM

Angela K. Wittmer
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 7/13/2003
  I have the N80, and it's great. I am still learning all the bells & whistles but have been impressed so far. Mine came with a 28-100 mm lens & I recently got a Nokkor 70-300 mm & love it. Good luck & let us know what you decided to purchase!

Angie

6/21/2004 6:31:17 AM

Denise  M. Prichett
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 4/24/2002
  I have the N80 and I love this camera!!!! It's my number one camera to use right now until I go digital and get a Nikon D100. My first camera was a Canon Rebel 2000, but if I had it to do all over again I'd go Nikon because of it's great reputation. If you decide to go Canon, the Elan 7 is a great choice. I was considering purchasing anElan 7 as my second camera and selling my Rebel 2000, before I made the decision to just save up and go digital. My lens recommendation is the Nikon 28-105. Hope that helps.

6/28/2004 5:13:14 PM

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Erin 

member since: 3/18/2004
  6 .  Should I Buy a Nikon FM3a?
I currently have a digital camera (Canon G2), but I want to get a film camera also. I don't like all the buttons on most cameras and having to always refer to the manual. I was looking at the Nikon FM3A. Does anyone have one? If so, do you like it and is it easy to use/learn? Also, would you recommend getting it new or are used cameras worth it? Thanks.

3/18/2004 2:59:22 PM

Bob Cammarata
BetterPhoto Member
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member since: 7/17/2003
  If you want to "learn" manual operation, I recommend that you choose a Nikon FM2 camera instead of the Nikon FM3A. The only difference in the two models is that the FM3 has an aperture-priority automatic feature, in addition to all of its manual functions. Unless you plan to use this feature, you can save $$ by getting a used FM2 for less, and transferring the savings into better lenses and accessories.

3/18/2004 5:09:00 PM

Randall Stewart

member since: 3/20/2004
  The FM3a is the latest Nikon model that has basic manual operation as well as some auto exposure option. It is manual focus. It will not take the latest "G" lenses, but that's probably not an issue, as there are vast supplies of excellent lenses available. It has a simple, non-electronic control layout. If you want to use it manually, you will have to learn how to meter manually with the camera; otherwise, you can set it to auto-exposure.

It is built the old-fashioned, high-quality way, which means expensive for its features. If you are considering a used model, an earlier, similar model is the FE2, but that camera could be 20-25 years old [but still my favorite]. The Nikon FM2N is a manual exposure-only version, a good choice if you do not need auto-exposure. I would avoid the FM and FM2 manual models because of their age [20+ years]. Avoid the Nikon FA model, which has a lot of early electronics that proved not to be durable.

3/20/2004 11:54:36 AM

Michael McCullough

member since: 6/11/2002
  From what I've heard the Nikon FM3A is a great camera,that said my manual back up bodies are a Minolta XE5,and an SRT 101 I really have no complaints at all and am very satisfied with the results..

3/23/2004 12:50:28 PM

Erin 

member since: 3/18/2004
  Thanks for the replies. It seems from the research I've done that everybody who owns one loves it. I am just afraid it will be too frustrating and hard to learn for me. I will just have to keep looking at all the options before I make my final decision.
Thanks again,
Erin

3/23/2004 6:08:51 PM

Justin Smith

member since: 1/29/2004
  I recently picked up a Yashica FX-3 Super 2000 for $25 at a pawn shop. This is an all-manual SLR (with TTL light meter). Yashica lens are quite reasonable on eBay, and you can upgrade to Carl Zeiss optics in the future.

3/23/2004 6:50:43 PM

Michael McCullough

member since: 6/11/2002
  FM3A,very easy to learn,no bells and whistles,uncomplicated basic,check it out at the local vendor before you invest!!!!!!don't be intimidated at all there's no reason to be!!!!!

3/25/2004 6:49:50 AM

Erin 

member since: 3/18/2004
  Well, I went to a local store and bought a new FM3a yesterday. I could have gotten it cheaper online, but I was weary of that and the people in the store are very helpful and friendly.

I have to get used to the viewfinder, especially because I am used to looking at the LCD screen on my digital camera to take pictures. I also tried to load the film and that was a disaster. I will just keep trying with an old roll of film and if I can't get it I'll go back to the store and have them show me. Wish me luck!!!!
Erin

3/26/2004 8:04:18 AM

Bob Cammarata
BetterPhoto Member
cammphoto.com

member since: 7/17/2003
  Erin,

Congrats on your new camera. I know you will come to love its simplicity and dependability.

When loading your film, try hooking the leader into the take-up spool slot first.... then, advance the film winding lever half-way until the leader catches onto the take-up spool.
Next, pull the film canister backward, and seat it in place.
Rotate the flim rewind knob clockwise until you see the film tighten against the camera, and close the back.
Advance two frames with the shutter and film advance lever, and you're ready to go. (The film counter should read below #1.)

Not only is this faster than the traditional way, you can get two or three additional frames from a roll of 36 exposure film.

Good luck!

3/26/2004 5:41:22 PM

George Anderson

member since: 7/6/2005
  "..advance the film winding lever half-way until the leader catches onto the take-up spool. Next, pull the film canister backward, and seat it in place. Rotate the flim rewind knob clockwise until you see the film tighten against the camera, and close the back. Not only is this faster than the traditional way, you can get two or three additional frames from a roll of 36 exposure film."

Faster is fine, but it's not advisable with most cameras to short-wind the takeup spool (or to short-stroke the advance lever, for that matter). Without a turn or two of full-width film on the spool, the leader will often pop off the takeup spool the moment the user turns the rewind lever to tighten the film. Then, many users won't notice and go on to take a full set of 36 photos with no film wound on the camera. Talk about missed opportunities! And short-winding the advance lever will jam some cameras with levers designed for full stroke operation.

It just isn't saving a frame or two of film to risk the leader popping loose.

7/7/2005 1:16:49 PM

Don Curry

member since: 6/20/2005
  I have been using a Nikkormat FT2 since it came out in the 70s. It is fully manual. It is built like a tank and has been a great work horse. After 30 years it is still in mint condition. I now use it only for macro with a 55mm micro-Nikkor lens. It takes great pictures. I'm sure there are still some out there for sale.

7/7/2005 2:20:19 PM

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Sue Carter

member since: 12/26/2003
  7 .  Which Camera to Buy?
Help! I was all set to buy the Rebel D and went to a photo store and was told that the new Nikon D70 was much better. I was a bit unsure how much of what the employee told me was true but basically he said it was faster, clearer, had many more options and the photos could be enlarged much larger. I currently use the Rebel 2000 and have several lenses although none that were too expensive. Was this guy just trying to sell me the camera of the day or was he right?

Thanks!

3/6/2004 6:53:16 PM

Wing Wong
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 2/8/2004
  Hi Sue,

Well, the Nikon D70 will have more resolution and various other improvements which were not present in the Canon Digital Rebel. So the employee wasn't trying to sell you the camera of the day.

The thing is, several new cameras are coming out recently which have better resolution and such.

Since you have Canon lenses, you would be better served getting the Rebel and then selling it and upgrading to the newer Canon digital body. That way, you get to make use of your existing set of lenses.

3/7/2004 12:15:27 AM

Esther Mishkowitz

member since: 5/14/2000
  is there a canon camera out there that is comparable to the d70?
thanks

12/14/2004 7:40:59 PM

Tom N. King

member since: 11/15/2004
  Yes. If you are looking to stay with the canon EOS lineup, there the EOS 20D for about $1500 or the older EOS 10D for about $1100-$1200.
To switch brand now would mean that you might have to start collecting lens to that brand as well, and more money wasted. When it come to buying an SLR, chose the brand that offer a good combination of cameras and lens.
you can't have nikon today and pentax so on the bext day. Well unless money is no object. But than again the time to learn new system. I for one don't like to sit there and read a new system, i'd rather go shooting.
be safe, be happy, go shooting.
tom

12/14/2004 9:21:05 PM

John Sandstedt
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member since: 8/8/2001
  Pop Phot recently rated the nikon D70 as 2004 Camera of the Year. you should check out the December and January issues - in the section on Gear, Pop Photo notes great things about the Canon 20D and several problems with the D70. It's interesting that the camera of the Year Rating was given based on the comments in Gear.

In the January issue, the 20D is reviewed and really given a lot of praise. Again, I don't get the COTY rating.

Since you're using Canon equipment, Canon is probably the better choice. You won't have to get all new lenses.

Remember something, the Rebel D is the lower level digital SLR offered by Canon.. Thus, it's inappropriate to compare it to either the D70 or 20D.

12/15/2004 8:02:41 AM

  A tough choice between a superb + camera (D70), a superb camera (10D) and a really superb ++ camera (20D).

You cannot go wrong with any of these three, but if you own Canon lenses, it does not make sense to buy a Nikon camera.

If your budget allows, the 8 megapixel EOS 20D(versus the 6 megapixel models) is probably the best camera in the consumer level D SLR market.

Cheers! Peter

12/31/2004 11:25:59 AM

Nacoma D. Hayden
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member since: 12/27/2004
  Stick with the Canon. You already have the equiptment and its a waste of money to get a new system. Evenmore "Canon" is the best name in photography. (No I'm not getting paid to make this statement)

1/9/2005 2:39:01 PM

Derek Holyhead

member since: 12/26/2003
  Hi Sue,
Buy the Nikon and then send all your Canon lenses to me for use on my digital rebel, just joking. I have the Digital Rebel and have no real complaints with it and unless you need more features than your current Rebel 2000 it should be a good choice for you. I previously used a EOS 600 (630 in the USA) and the only thing I miss is the option to choose the AF mode myself and for this I wish I had chosen the 10D, the 20D wasn't available 12 months ago when I bought my Digital Rebel. As Nacoma said, Canon is the best name in photography, I have been using them since 1973. Stick with Canon and keep your lenses, if not refer to the my first line! Good luck.
Regards,
Del

1/9/2005 4:32:56 PM

Andres  Llopart
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member since: 1/13/2005
  The D70, 10D and Digital Rebel are all great camera bodies. If you are looking for sharper images and better quality you should invest more on lenses rather than the body. Saying that the Digital Rebel comes with a great price that allows you to spend some money in a better lens. Lenses don’t depreciate as much as the cameras bodies, and last much longer. If you have a budget go for the Digital Rebel (bought mine under $700) and get better lens, in the future you can upgrade to better bodies when the prices come down….

1/13/2005 11:55:45 AM

Sue Carter

member since: 12/26/2003
  Hi Guys-

Thanks for all of your input. I asked this question the 6th of March last year and lately it is getting a bunch of activity. In May I bought the Digital Rebel. I love it. My lenses work with it (plus all the new lenses I have bought since). It never gives me any trouble and the pic's are great. If I was buying today I would probably step up to one of the newer canon's and probably will eventually but for now this camera does everything I need it to do.

Sue

1/17/2005 1:33:58 PM

Grant Davenport

member since: 9/12/2004
 

Sue,

Hi there and thanks for my chance to respond to this question.

I don't know how many times these sort of questions have been asked on this website....

I remember a saying someone in a camera shop said to me once "Canon are nice to touch, and nice to hold, but if it were a Nikon consider it sold"...boom boom lol
No but seriously :
It's like asking "how long is a piece of string" or "how tall's a china man" or "do you like sweet & sour chicken or sweet & sour pork"
It comes down to the individual. It's there personal choice as to what camera they pick up, feel, like to hold and ultimately what they buy. The consumer is the only person who can make this choice.

Yes, the D70 is a great camera at a very good price. It has alot of the better features and functions of the more expensive D100 and you do have the ability to use 99% of the older Nikon lenses that you may already own. Nikon have always been of very good quality and hopefully will continue this tradition of reliabilty and decent prices.
As for "is Canon better than Nikon", that again comes down to the individual. I love my Nikon equipment and wouldn't part with it for the world
however if I was to ever have to replace all my equipment for some strange reason, I would definately consider Canon gear as it too is excellent photographic equip' and some of the functions/features on Canon aren't available on Nikon so it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.

Best of luck with your choice and remember, forget what camera you use but remember get out there and start shooting.

Grant
anyoccasionphotography

2/3/2005 5:24:11 PM

Grant Davenport

member since: 9/12/2004
 
Sue,

Hi there and thanks for my chance to respond to this question.

I don't know how many times these sort of questions have been asked on this website....

I remember a saying someone in a camera shop said to me once "Canon are nice to touch, and nice to hold, but if it were a Nikon consider it sold"...boom boom lol
No but seriously :
It's like asking "how long is a piece of string" or "how tall's a china man" or "do you like sweet & sour chicken or sweet & sour pork"
It comes down to the individual. It's there personal choice as to what camera they pick up, feel, like to hold and ultimately what they buy. The consumer is the only person who can make this choice.

Yes, the D70 is a great camera at a very good price. It has alot of the better features and functions of the more expensive D100 and you do have the ability to use 99% of the older Nikon lenses that you may already own. Nikon have always been of very good quality and hopefully will continue this tradition of reliabilty and decent prices.
As for "is Canon better than Nikon", that again comes down to the individual. I love my Nikon equipment and wouldn't part with it for the world
however if I was to ever have to replace all my equipment for some strange reason, I would definately consider Canon gear as it too is excellent photographic equip' and some of the functions/features on Canon aren't available on Nikon so it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.

Best of luck with your choice and remember, forget what camera you use but remember get out there and start shooting.

Grant
anyoccasionphotography

2/3/2005 5:25:45 PM

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sue 

member since: 2/16/2004
  8 .  Olympus OM10 with Indoor Basketball Shots
I need to know how to take great pictures inside a gym for basketball. I have an Olympus OM10 and a 2x lens adapter on a normal 50mm lens. I do not understand about the apature settings. Can you help me?

3/5/2004 10:08:14 AM

Jon Close
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member since: 5/18/2000
  Do you have the user manual for your camera? If not you can download it free from http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/cpg_download_manuals.asp

Gyms are relatively dim and you'll want shutter speeds of 1/90 or more to stop action. Use high speed film (ISO 800 or 1600). To get the highest shutter speed you can, set the aperture to its maximum opening (the smallest f/number) and the shutter for AUTO. You cannot manually select shutter speeds with the OM-10 unless you have the optional Manual Adaptor.

3/5/2004 11:29:06 AM

sue 

member since: 2/16/2004
  Thank you. No I don't have the users manual. I will try to download it. Thanks you very much for your response. I'm ignorant when it comes to a camera that is not point and shoot.
Thanks again.

3/5/2004 12:36:38 PM

Jordi Trilla

member since: 5/26/2003
  Dear Sue,

For many years I had been taking pictures of a basketball team, using a Olympus OM2. The best way I found to do this work, was usig 400 ISO film, a 28-70 zoom lens, and using a flash (as powerful as you can get)

Shooting good photos during a basketball game isn't easy at all. Sit down (or get on your nees) besides a basket, set your focus around the line of the free shoots or shorter (sorry, I don't know the terminology in English), and set your flash at hight power to get some more field deepness.

Then, be READY! Observe the game, but not trough the lens, follow the play and shoot BEFORE the spectacular action actually happens!! This is the only way to catch it... if not you'll quickly notice your pictures show the action after what you wanted to picture... the ball isn't in your photo, etc... Experience is almost everything. Then, if possible, start changing your points of view to get different pictures of the players.

Good luck! (And sorry again for my awful English)

Jordi Trilla
Spain

3/9/2004 2:57:27 AM

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Jerrica Dalton

member since: 8/16/2002
  9 .  A Beginner Looking for Answers
I have always loved photography as my hobby, and now I want to turn it into a business. I know that I need to play around before I start a busniess. I have 2 small children so they can be my ginny pigs=-)! Anyway I have a Rebel Ti, but my question is... I am going to do portraits so should I stick with my 35mm, or go to a medium format camera? I will probably start with pictures outside only and then working my way inside. Any suggestion for a begginer would be greatly appreciated. I am having trouble finding good information.

2/29/2004 7:58:59 PM

  Jerrica, I started off with the same camera! Don't feel like you have to go medium format just because it's there. The most important thing for you is to get great pictures. Fous on consistency. No matter what camera you have, all that matters is great results. There will always be better and more expensive equipment, but if you take great pictures, you will take great pictures with whatever you use. The Rebel Ti is a great camera, don't let yourself be intimidated by what the "experts" use. Some of their pictures aren't terribly spectacular! Know your camera and have fun with it. At first I was intimidated to do studio shots because the lighting aspect was made out to sound so difficult. Well it's not! You may be a beginner but you have fresh eyes and fresh ideas, just express yourself in your work and have fun with it.

3/1/2004 10:44:15 AM

PAMELA CM LAMMERSEN
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member since: 1/19/2004
  I like Jen's comments - I also would have to say concentrate on the camera you have. Good photography is not about who has the best equipment - use your imagination and you will be surprised what results you can get. As you know camera equip can be expensive so check out used first and go from there. Find a few basic poses etc that work well for you and stick to them untill you are comfortable and perfected them, then branch out from there.
Good luck - you are going to have tons of fun!

3/1/2004 1:18:58 PM

Michael McCullough

member since: 6/11/2002
  In response,film choice is a really imortant factor in studio work,and lens and filter choice also IMHO will play a huge role in your finished product,and lets not kid ourselves,medium format is so so well suited to most studio work if you can afford the jump to it,Mamiya does make some TLR cameras that look to be well suited for the work you have in mind,with interchangeable lenses and can be had at a fairly reasonable price in the used marketplace allthe best!!!!

3/3/2004 11:30:46 AM

Dale 

member since: 7/1/2000
  Jerrica,

I came across the question that you posted regarding either using the 35 mm format for doing portraits or using medium format. I noticed that you posted this question nearly two years ago, but I will comment on the subject.

Both 35 mm and medium format have their respective places in taking pictures. If you are happy with the results you're getting with your Rebel, then 35 mm will suffice. However, if you are serious about making large portraits, then medium format would offer you this advantage. If I know that I won't be enlarging beyond 11"x14", then I will usually shoot with either a 35 mm Leica R8 or a Leica M7 rangefinder. On the other hand, if I think there is a remote chance that I may want to make a print larger than 11"x14", I will use a Rollei 6008 Integral 6x6 square medium format. With 35 mm, when you start to enlarge beyond 11"x14", grain begins to show up versus with a square medium format, grain doesn't become a problem until you go past a 30"x30" size print.

3/19/2006 12:06:43 AM

Mark Feldstein
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member since: 3/17/2005
  I agree with Michael and Dale. Also, while doing quality work isn't necessarily about having the best equipment, still, you need to try and match the format to the job. And, the camera itself isn't necessarily indicative of the kind of grain you'll get at higher magnifications. That's really more a factor of using fine grain emulsions suited to portrait work at least when you shoot with film.


You also want to have relatively good quality optics that provide sharp images, or at least be able to have sufficient light to have adequate depth of field on your subjects, especially when shooting head shots.

My own preference is the Hasselblad system which will likely be out of your budget at this point, but still there are some great deals to be had on used Hasselblad equipment and as many medium format SLR cameras, it allows you to build on the basic system. That includes a great series of lenses, film magazines, yes, even a digital back if you can afford about 5 grand.

Anyway, the larger the format you use, then the larger you can comfortably make prints, and the bigger the print, the larger the sale. In fact, a lot of guys with portrait studios only have large (really large) prints hanging in their reception areas just to encourage people to buy that size as opposed to 8x10 or 11x14 since there ain't a lot of money in that. Instead, you have to hike your shoot fees to compensate. See what I mean?
As an additional thought, you could buy a clean used crown graphic press camera that shoots 4x5 format and would allow you to use a polaroid back to check results. Say a 150 or 200mm lens and lensboard. Works great for portraits and will probably run you a lot less than other MF Slrs.

But before you go out and buy anything or even start marketing, you really ought to have put together a flexible, realistic business plan along with a budget for everything you can presently anticipate needing. According to the IRS, (among others) most small biz start-ups fail in 3 or less years because of poor planning and /or lack of start-up capitalization.

Take it light.
Mark

3/19/2006 11:38:05 AM

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Amy B. Sudduth

member since: 2/22/2004
  10 .  Lookin for First SLR Camera
Ok, here is the thing... I am looking to buy my first SLR Camera. I will be using it to practice taking portraits and some day I want to have my own studio. To start out.. what cameras would you suggest for this field?

2/22/2004 11:20:12 AM

doug Nelson
DougNelsonPhoto.com

member since: 6/14/2001
  You'll hear from the resident geezer first, I guess. I'd start with a manual focus, maybe even manual exposure SLR. Good ones are very cheap used, and you can buy a few new still. Lenses are far less expensive. Try a 50mm lens first, as they are both cheap and very good at resolving fine detail. For portraits, try an 85 or 100mm. All makers have these. Read more about this approach on my web page. The regulars here have heard it all before.

2/23/2004 10:19:43 AM

George Gaskell

member since: 2/23/2004
  There are two cameras I would strongly recommend to a beginner -- (1) whatever the current entry-level Canon EOS camera is, and (2) the Pentax K1000.

There is something that every beginner really needs to understand -- the camera body is the LEAST important component in the whole photography process. It is only there to hold the lens and the film in the proper relation to one another, and if it can do that well, then you have a winner. All the features and gadgets on the high-end cameras are only there for the photographer's convenience (which may be important if you take photos for a living, but should mean very little to the rest of us). An expensive body will not give you better photos. There are 4 things that matter a lot more -- light quality, film type, lens quality and composition skill.

The most affordable Canon EOS camera at the moment is the Rebel GII. It is only about $150! It is packed with features, too. Ten years ago, it would have been the most advanced thing on the market. It takes all the EF lenses (start with the 50mm f/1.8 III). You can't go wrong.

Second, think about a Pentax K1000. It is a warhorse. It is all manual, very reliable, perfectly designed. As an alternative, there is the new Pentax ZX-M.

With the money you save by choosing a less expensive body, invest in top of the line lenses, a top quality filter set, lighting equipment (if you shoot indoors), and a library of good photo books. These things will improve your photos far more than a high-end body ever will.

2/23/2004 8:59:58 PM

David S. Davis

member since: 12/17/2002
  I use the Nikon N65 and love it. But this is not my advice to you. Spend time reading reviews. Popular photography and Photographic magazines for example (I think the web sites have archive reviews). Go to a few stores and see what feels best.

My advice is to check out ebay and sites like bhphoto.com that have used equipment. You can save a ton of money. I wish I had gone this route.

2/24/2004 7:20:04 AM

  I started with the Canon Rebel Ti, excellent camera. What sets it apart from the lower end Rebels is that the lens mount is metal not plastic! I use the 28-90mm lens and then a 75-300mm. Everyone recommends 50mm for portraits but I also love 150mm. I like options!
From there if you so decide, you can go to the digital rebel. I just purchased it and love it! You can use all the same lenses as the Rebel Ti, very practical. I now use them both in my studio.
It's nice to be able to build on what you have. Pick a brand that you love and stick to it so that you're not carrying 2 separate sets of lenses and filters down the road.

2/24/2004 10:32:41 AM

David S. Davis

member since: 12/17/2002
  Check this link - it reviews SLR's under $300
http://www.photographic.com/filmcameras/158/

copy and paste to your browser.

2/24/2004 11:42:35 AM

Michael McCullough

member since: 6/11/2002
  Personally,I started with a Nikon F80 28-80 D lens and 70-300 ED lens,then added a 50mm.1.8 a little later,never regretted my choices,I added a Minolta SRT 101 and XE5 with a 28mm and 45mm Minolta lenses,bought a screwmount adapter and added alot of really great Takumar lenses,the 105mm.Super Tak,50mm.f1.4,SMC 55mm.f2.and the older Tele Takumar 200mm.f3.5 a good sharp 200mm.The total cost of the Minolta system 400 Canadian,The Nikon gear about 1200.Shop around and have some fun!!!

2/24/2004 12:07:31 PM

Michael F. Millay

member since: 3/8/2003
  Amy - I am not Sure who "Michael M." is (above)
But I am Michael F. Millay - or Mylo - or Sharpshooter... ANYWAY -
BEFORE I read ANY "Replies" I Came up with the SAME 2 Cameras in my Brain, as George & DOUG Did! The Old Pentax K-1000 ! (remember NO AutoFocus-U actually have to LOOK at Your Composition, etc.) Or... ANY Canon REBEL (How many Rebels Do they Have Now?) You Might be Glad LATER if you get the SAME NAME Camera AND GLASS - As You Could KEEP Say.. Canon Glass, then SELL a REBEL, & get a BETTER Canon - OR Digital Canon.
ALSO : If your Bank Account is NOT Bulging, You Can cover EVERYTHING from 28 mm to 300 mm - with TWO Hunks of Glass - as I did. i.e. :
CANON 28-105mm ZOOM, AND CANON 100-300 ZOOM. Total Cost - BOTH Lenses : Approx. : $ 450 to $ 500 ?) (Buy thru Mail at B & H-New York ONLY, or be Stupid) I have had about 30 Photos Published that I shot with above Glass.
... Sharpshooter

2/24/2004 1:25:29 PM

Michael McCullough

member since: 6/11/2002
  I have heard rumers that the Rebel does not handle cold weather well,and the build quality is plastic in feel and heft,these in itself would really question on wether I would buy one ,oh by the way its Michael McCullough,and for 4or 500 dollars you really can pick up a complete manual system that will still have years of life left,Canon made some great manual cameras and lenses at one time!!!!!!

2/25/2004 8:34:29 AM

Michael McCullough

member since: 6/11/2002
  And just to add a little more for you try picking up a new auto focus camera and I don't mean a pro camera and then a 25 year old manual masterpiece you will see right away the build difference in both quality and feel.If the older camera is maintained it will last a lifetime,Take good care!!!

2/25/2004 8:41:52 AM

Paula  S. Masterson

member since: 1/25/2003
  This is repetitive, but maybe it'll help you! My first (and only) SLR was the Canon Rebel Ti, and it is everything I could want. It has all the preset modes that you can use when you are getting comfortable with the camera and how to handle it. Then it has all the creative controls you'll want as you understand more about photography. I stuck with the original 28-90mm lens until I got more comfortable with phtography fundamentals, then added a 28-200. I bought it about 18 months ago, on-line, from 17th St. Photo in NYC, for $250. It came with a whole kit of stuff, inc. a tripod. I have used it out in the cold without any problems. I like the lighter weight of the plastic body, as I am a smaller person and it is easy for me to handle. You won't be disappointed!!

Paula Masterson

2/26/2004 11:47:59 AM

Eric Highfield
BetterPhoto Member
StoneHorseStudios.com

member since: 8/16/2003
  Hi Amy,

I reading through these entries and I’m thinking that if I was just starting out, I’d be more confused now then when I first asked the question! Everyone has there favourite brands and you will to. All of the mentioned brands and even ones that aren’t mentioned make some excellent cameras, so I’ll do you a favour and not tote any brands in this response (besides these companies take my money, not give it to me, so I will not give them any free advertising, too!). Out of all of the responses, I think I agree most with the first response from Doug Nelson. With his approach, you’ll spend far less money…and gain a lot better understanding of the technical aspects of photography. With today’s AF cameras, the temptation to leave them in Autofocus and Program mode is too tempting. There is nothing wrong with that per se, but you will advance a lot more slowly in your understanding of exposure if you let the camera do all of the calculations for you, and usually the results are more sterile (meaning less creative). The good older manual camera tends to offer more flexibility in many ways too. Multiple exposures, elapsed time exposures, and the ability to still shoot in below freezing, or even without batteries are inherent to many of these cameras, but not usually to the AF cameras. (Unless you are going to buy VERY high end and/or add expensive databacks). A good manual camera with a manual 1.8, 50mm prime lens (great for portraits) will cost much less, teach you a lot, and allow you to get familiar with the SLR world before spending big bucks on your investment into a system for your studio. Best of all, when you’re ready start building a SYSTEM for your studio, you’ll be able to do so based on your OWN criteria of what you need in SLR technology. I emphasize system, because you are aspiring to make photography a business, your investment in lenses and accessories will far outweigh any camera bodies you buy. You’ll want to maximize your system to allow for the needs of your business….ask yourself, does this one brand offer all of lenses and accessories I will need later on?, Do they offer both film and digital cameras? (you’ll likely want both eventually), How compatible are the lenses and accessories across both formats?, etc. Once you figure that out, tryout potential candidates…determine how it does it feels in your hands? You’ll hate even the “best”, most feature laden camera if it is uncomfortable for you to use. You’ve got big plans, but you’re still in the early stages, so you’ve got time. Start out with a manual SLR that feels good to you. Spend the money you’ve saved on some good photography instruction books, or maybe some courses, and learn the basics of SLR photography with it. Even if you buy a completely different brand for your studio equipment, the loss of investment due to incompatibility will be minimal. In the meantime, you’ll have a great time with your new best friend, your first SLR! No matter what fancy & shiny products that come out down the road, you’ll always look back at “old reliable” with fondness.

Best of luck, and happy shopping!

3/8/2004 11:52:57 PM

S Goswami

member since: 4/30/2005
  I was in the same situation when I was trying to buy my first slr. And that is why I ended up buying quite a few from Ebay. I think any manual focus camera will do, be it Pentax K1000, Minolta SRT101 or the likes. If you want a real workhorse you can pick up a Zenit from ebay which you can buy around $50-$60 from ebay with a very good quality russian lens. They are really good in quality and very very cheap.

4/30/2005 1:42:24 AM

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