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Christopher J. Budny
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 10/3/2005
  61 .  August 2013 Contest Countdown
  Wire Pass Logjam
Wire Pass Logjam
At several points on the hike through Wire Pass, you're reminded just how much debris runs through the slot canyon in a flood;
and clearly how bad it would be for you, if you were caught in the canyon during a flash flood, as part of that torrent of debris!
Where the slot canyon narrows, bottlenecks form with debris lodged in place. (Some hikers have survived floods by clinging
to tree trunks which sometimes get lodged 20 feet off the canyon floor.)

© Christopher J. Budny
Canon EOS 7D Digit...
Greetings fellow BP Members...! Fall is finally creeping into the air (at least here in Virginia) and it is hard to imagine we're now counting down the days until the August Contest Results are announced -- truly a "summer's over" kind of moment!

Thanks to Michelle Frick for "hosting" this monthly countdown thread; over the years at BP, this mid-month countdown thread (aka "Chocolates and Cocktails" -- named for certain tools which may help members pass the time expectantly awaiting results!) has been hosted by a number of different folks--I offered to pick it up again from Michelle, after her recent run.

The purpose of thread is to share your one favorite image from your entries last month -- your personal favorite, or your most hopeful, or your proudest photographic achievement that month, etc.; which is, naturally, not always the image that you *think* will win, nor the image the BP Judges will be drawn to ;) It isn't about predicting your Finalists/Winners (although that's a fun trick when it happens here!); it is about sharing your personal best/favorite image here. (Case in point; my Favorite for August didn't even get an EP -- but it is certainly my favorite!)

Best of luck to everyone in the August contest!

Some helpful hints for attaching photos into a BP Forum Thread, if you're unfamiliar with the process:

1) Sign into BP completely (name + password.)

2) If you have NOT YET submitted your Contest Entry for today, you can take advantage of the "Photo ID" method (to pull an existing image from your Member Center into your Reply to this thread.) This avoids a duplicate image upload to your Member Center. Go get the Photo ID# from your Member Center first, then come to back this thread, click Respond, enter the text of your reply, then choose "1" from the images-to-attach drop-down (even though you won't actually be uploading a file.) Click Submit; at the next screen populate the "Photo ID" box shown over at the right. Skip the other text fields on that screen, and finalize the submit at the bottom.

3) If you HAVE ALREADY entered the Contest for today, you can't use the Photo ID method *today*. You can either wait until tomorrow to reply here (before making your new Contest entry) or, upload a new copy of your image (from your PC) into this thread. This produces a duplicate image in your Member Center; however, you don't have to make that duplicate visible in your Gallery.
If you're uploading a duplicate, I suggest titling it "For Forum" so it stands out in your Member Center, for easier housecleaning later on. This can also help direct BP viewers to go find the original image in your gallery, when they want to leave a comment. Likewise, if you want to add a comment to a photo seen here, first try to tell if it is a duplicate upload. As a courtesy, try to find the original image in the member's gallery and leave your comment there instead of on the duplicate.

9/16/2013 6:23:24 AM


1/2000 Sec - f/8 - ISO 640 - 560mm
Canon 5D Mk III - Canon EF 400m f/2.8L IS II - Canon EF 1.4x III
Thanks for picking this up Chris!

I'm not sure I have a favorite (well, of the ones that got an EP) for August, but for the sake of picking one, I'll go with this one.

9/16/2013 3:27:12 PM Photo Contest Finalist
Angela and Kate - friends since grade school and about to start high school together.
Thank you Chris for offering to host the thread again! With school back in session here, I just looked at my calendar and was shocked to see we are already on the 16th. It's 96 degrees here today which makes it very difficult to feel like fall will ever arrive in the South, but I sure hope it does! I'll miss the green grass, but this heat has got to go!

I'm so happy you will be moderating again! If I could, I would give you a giant thank you hug!

And, for my favorite - I'm picking a picture of my daughter and her best girlfriend. These two have been close since grade school and now they are starting high school together. I guess I blinked because I swear it was yesterday they were little!

9/16/2013 4:03:47 PM Photo Contest Finalist
Jeepers Creepers
Jeepers Creepers
Three image handheld HDR. This old 54 Willys Jeep is my husband Mark's pride and joy. (I named it Jeepers Creepers....partly because of the obvious, it's a jeep and the creepers part because about 40 MPH is all she'll do. lol
I have watched this thread for a long time now and have decided to join in if that's ok. My favorite is this photo of my husband Mark's old 54 Willys jeep. An old jeep on a country road in the hills of Kentucky with an awesome sky behind as a backdrop. It was a perfect summer evening.

9/16/2013 4:20:03 PM

  Summer Falls
Summer Falls
Stopping down to f/11 @ 240mm and intentionally moving the camera, tried to capture
a summer abstract as the green and pale leaves of a tree were being backlit from the late afternoon sunlight.

Sigma 70-300mm @ f/11, 1/40sec, ISO400.

Thank you Chris for taking on the task of initiating this very interesting monthly thread. I so enjoy reading your thoughts and comments.

My favorite for the month is something different from what I normally shoot and don't think it will go past the EP anyways, but I like it very much so here it is.

Good luck to all in the August contest.


9/17/2013 12:15:56 AM

Christopher J. Budny
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 10/3/2005
  Welcome Dayna; glad you joined in -- anyone can! You sure have pretty countryside out there!

9/17/2013 4:59:38 AM

  Escape from Alcatraz
Escape from Alcatraz
For the PG101 "Action Movie Title" theme.

f/9, 1/400, ISO1250, 105mm

** Catch-All **

Thanks for taking on the monthly countdown host responsibility, Chris, and thank you Michelle for hosting for so many months!

Here's my fave for the month, also sans-EP.

9/17/2013 7:15:11 AM

Yes, thank you, Chris. I've been meaning to join in here, but you know about that "meaning to" stuff. So, finally doing it. This is probably my favorite of my monthly entries, just because it was so full of fun.

9/17/2013 1:03:08 PM

Yes, thank you, Chris. I've been meaning to join in here, but you know about that "meaning to" stuff. So, finally doing it. This is probably my favorite of my monthly entries, just because it was so full of fun.

9/17/2013 1:04:00 PM

Yes, thank you, Chris. I've been meaning to join in here, but you know about that "meaning to" stuff. So, finally doing it. This is probably my favorite of my monthly entries, just because it was so full of fun.

9/17/2013 1:05:45 PM Photo Contest SECOND PLACE Winner

Second Place - Flowers - August 2013

Purple daisies in small glass vase, high key.
Basic adjustments in CS5.
Thank you Michelle, for all the time you hosted the thread, and thank you, Chris, for taking on the hosting ...

This is my August fave, entered in Flowers.

As always, best of luck to all the talented BPers!

9/19/2013 5:52:09 PM

Christopher J. Budny
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 10/3/2005
  Hey Mitch; are you trying to attach an existing Member Center Photo? (Cuz none show up on your posts here) -- remember it only works if you haven't entered the contest for that particular day yet.

9/19/2013 7:51:45 PM

I did not get a EP for my favorite, but this one is my 2nd favorite :-)

9/20/2013 7:18:36 PM

2nd try :-)

9/20/2013 7:21:35 PM

  Keep Bodie Safe
Keep Bodie Safe
A fire is burning 3 miles from Bodie tonight. It has burned at least 12,000 acres so far and is zero % contained. It was started by lightning during a storm. I am hoping they get it contained with no damage to anything or anybody fighting it.T & P category
one more and I give up :-)

9/20/2013 7:24:39 PM

  Who? ME??
Who? ME??
My fave also didn't get an EP, so in honor of Sammy's recent death, I'll pick his picture for my fave.

9/22/2013 2:13:27 PM

  And of course, I forgot to check the box.

9/22/2013 2:16:09 PM

Christopher J. Budny
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 10/3/2005
  Seems like at a glance, EP's are finally done for August - so perhaps we'll be hearing the Staff Fav's and Finalists for Aug later this week?
Fingers crossed -- and best of luck to everyone (whether or not your Favorite here is in the final running!)

9/23/2013 8:18:52 AM

Well, I'm going to try the photo id method here once again. I didn't know I'd even left part of the message earlier (and didn't get notifications of additions to the thread until I got one today). Didn't work last time, but . . . here's my most hopeful for August, Slingshot. Sparse month for EPs, with only 11 of 31, if they're finished.

9/23/2013 8:48:23 AM

  Well, I'm going to try the photo id method here once again. I didn't know I'd even left part of the message earlier (and didn't get notifications of additions to the thread until I got one today). Didn't work last time, but . . . here's my most hopeful for August, Slingshot. Sparse month for EPs, with only 11 of 31, if they're finished.

9/23/2013 8:49:00 AM

I seem to be having major problems with this. Thing is, when I go to the next option after choosing 1 image, there's no place to enter the photo ID number, none at all. So, shoot, I'll just reupload.

9/23/2013 8:51:08 AM

Christopher J. Budny
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 10/3/2005
  Hi Mitch -- the Photo ID field is usually a fair ways off to the far right -- you might even have to scroll sideways to find it? But at least your fresh upload worked here ;)

9/23/2013 8:58:30 AM

  Very cool photo, Mitch ... I predict gold!

9/23/2013 10:38:45 AM

  19 of 31 for me for August, as far as EPs go. Fingers crossed for SF, F and W announcement!!!!


9/23/2013 8:14:18 PM

  Maryland Girl II
Maryland Girl II
Maryland State Flower, Black Eyed Susan. F5.6, 1/60, 18-55mm nikkor vr @48mm, iso400, natural light.

Flowers: August 8, 2013

Thank you Michelle for your time hosting this thread and to Chris for taking over hosting.

All great photos I see here, EP or not! Carolyn, I am rooting for Sammy and I'm so glad you shared his picture. I am so sorry for his tragic loss but it seems as tho he left many with good memories. What better job could any of us hope to do. :)

13 out of 18 for EPs so I am hoping to get a fav, finalist or winner! Its been awhile..hehe. Here is one of my faves that I posted on my bday!

9/24/2013 6:55:40 PM

Christopher J. Budny
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 10/3/2005
  Some very nice fav's in this thread; thanks for sharing your true favorites from August!

We're rapidly running out of September; looks like we're heading into a weekend-Finalists-announcement situation?

Fingers crossed for everyone!

9/26/2013 5:38:55 AM

  Rain kissed-Aug 1
Rain kissed-Aug 1
Rain kissed Floral
My favorite is rain kissed.

9/26/2013 7:10:57 AM

Jackie M. Sajewski
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 3/21/2010
  D-Day Reinactment, Battle
D-Day Reinactment, Battle
Conneaut Ohio annual D-Day reinactment.
One I am hope full to move ahead to a fav.

9/26/2013 4:56:19 PM

  The Staff Favorites / Finalists announcement would be a very welcome TGIF gift!!! (fingers crossed)

9/26/2013 6:19:43 PM

  Not necessarily my favorite, but one I do like a lot - probably because this guy was so very nice :)

The Welcome

Good luck to everyone - and yes, the Staff Favorites should be coming very soon!!

9/27/2013 7:26:35 AM

  The Welcome
The Welcome
This friendly chap welcomes folks to Bent's Old Fort, also known as Fort William, located near La Junta in southeastern Colorado. Two Bent brothers, William and Charles, along with Ceran St. Vrain, built the fort in 1833 to trade with Indians and trappers for buffalo robes. The fort was destroyed under mysterious circumstances in 1849, but it has been carefully and beautifully reconstructed and restored and is now a National Historic Site and a National Historic Landmark.
Category: People
I forgot that I actually meant to put a clickable thumbnail in. I'll just add it now.

9/27/2013 7:28:21 AM

  Yes, I know it's only 2:00 p.m. in BP land, but I was soooo sure we would see Staff Favorites today . . . It's 4 p.m. here - too early for a glass of wine?

9/27/2013 1:58:48 PM

  It's not looking promising for today.
I say drink away, Nikki!

9/27/2013 4:25:08 PM

Brian M. Jones
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 11/28/2012
  Looks Like:

Staff Favorites On Saturday

Finalist Picks On Saturday

Winners Announced Sunday, which won't be me this month.. I will be lucky if I even get a Staff Favorite..

9/27/2013 4:29:50 PM

Christopher J. Budny
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 10/3/2005
  Its always 5pm somewhere, so yeah, pour yourself a nice glass...! I'm holding off for dirty martinis tomorrow night (wedding reception to go to!)

9/27/2013 4:41:58 PM

  Yum, dirty martini is my drink, too, Chris!
Meanwhile, I have broken out the dark chocolate with sea salt!

9/27/2013 5:01:02 PM

Jackie M. Sajewski
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 3/21/2010
  Saw the activity and thought maybe favs were selected. Oh well. Now I'm wishing I had some of that dark chocolate with sea salt!. :) Goos luck all. so many wonderful images in this thread.

9/27/2013 5:36:32 PM

Christopher J. Budny
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 10/3/2005
  Here's hoping for some announcements soon... Monday remains the most "popular" day for Finalists announcements to come out, over the last 8 years - but the 30th has only been "hit" once for Finalists, so we're definitely in late territory...
Fingers crossed for everyone!

9/29/2013 11:45:11 AM

  Well, I did my part ... consumed adult beverages and chocolate ... :)

9/29/2013 5:52:23 PM

Jackie M. Sajewski
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 3/21/2010
  I wonder if they are going to continue the favorite badges as they did last month. Seem to be running out of time for that.

9/29/2013 5:53:14 PM

  I sure hope everything doesn't get scrunched into one day. I don't so much mind staff favorites and Finalists coming close to one another, but I do like time to enjoy and comment on the Finalists and the Winners' announcements always snuffs out that activity.

9/29/2013 5:57:54 PM

  I'm with you Nikki ... it is nice to have some time to enjoy the finalists before winners come out.

9/29/2013 6:05:28 PM

  Agree with Nikki and Peggy.

Let me just convey my advance CONGRATZ to all the Staff Favorites', Finalists' and Winners' receivers since I'll be catching a flight for a business-cum-fun trip to London, UK in the next few hours.

Should be back by next week.


9/29/2013 6:14:29 PM

  Enjoy, and safe travels, Usman!

9/29/2013 6:28:05 PM

Jackie M. Sajewski
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 3/21/2010
  Have a wonderful trip Usman.

9/29/2013 6:51:12 PM

  I just got 3 Staff Favorites... hopefully Finalists will be announced soon, too.

9/29/2013 11:57:56 PM

  I just got one :) lets hope for finalist soon :)

9/30/2013 12:46:44 AM

  Three staff favorites here. Wonder if we'll see Finalists and Winners today, as well...

9/30/2013 1:31:50 AM

  I received two Staff Favorites. One of which is my pick on this thread. (Jeepers Creepers) Woohoo! Good luck in the next round everyone!

9/30/2013 2:11:46 AM

  Three for me, too.

9/30/2013 2:15:22 AM

  Five staff favorites here. Will be going all day. Hopefully finalists will be out when I get home.

9/30/2013 2:36:22 AM

Jackie M. Sajewski
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 3/21/2010
  Two for me. :) Good luck all.

9/30/2013 4:09:41 AM

Christopher J. Budny
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 10/3/2005
  Best of luck moving forward, to those who received an SF! Not sure how much pause there will be between SF, F and W this month---hopefully a day or more between F & W!

9/30/2013 5:00:15 AM Photo Contest Finalist
A time gone by
A time gone by
took this at oak alley in louisiana and just thought the ghost needed to be there. I imagine them leaving a nice ball and headed home.
i entered one in august and never saw an EP for it so gave up.. then today I get an email saying it was picked as a SF.. WOW..

9/30/2013 6:26:06 AM

  I got 2 Staff favorites. Do these stop their or can they be winners? Or Finalists? It sure has become confusing lately !

9/30/2013 6:55:34 AM

Jackie M. Sajewski
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 3/21/2010
  Tony thats so funny. So cool. Your 1 for 1 right now. Mayberit will even be a winner. :)

9/30/2013 7:00:40 AM

  Three Staff Favorites for me. Best of luck to all!

9/30/2013 7:11:31 AM

Christopher J. Budny
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 10/3/2005
  Hi Nancy - Staff Favorites are the pool from which Finalists are drawn now.
(Then Winners are drawn from Finalists.)

9/30/2013 8:46:39 AM

  Thank you, Chris, for clearing that up- at least, now there is still hope !

9/30/2013 8:51:09 AM

Jackie M. Sajewski
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 3/21/2010
  Finalists are out. I receieved one. Looks like you got one to for your one and only submission for August Tony.
Congratulations to all finalist and best of luck in the next round.

9/30/2013 11:31:59 AM

  Two Finalists out of the three SFs. Pretty happy about that, although my fav above didn't get picked (almost never happens!).

I see quite a few of you picked accurately, congratulations! Best of luck to all in the next round!

9/30/2013 11:42:23 AM

Christopher J. Budny
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 10/3/2005
  Woohoo! I see 4 images posted here as personal favorites, that made it to Silver! Congratulations to those, and the rest who snagged a Finalist (even if it wasn't on your personal favorite shared here.) I managed 3 Staff Fav's, turning into 2 Finalists... Best of luck in the winner's round---wonder if that will be pushed out later tonight to keep it all on the 30th!

9/30/2013 11:54:42 AM

  Congrats to all the awesome finalists!!

Two of my three Staff Favorites went on to Finalist. One of them is my fav posted in this thread, and the other is my self portrait. I am especially thrilled about that one because it is my first self portrait ever!

Best of luck to all in the next round!

9/30/2013 12:22:23 PM

  Dayna, what part of kentucky are you from? I was born and raised in western kentucky

9/30/2013 2:59:38 PM

  I received Finalists on my 2 Staff Favorites! whew !

9/30/2013 3:13:04 PM

  Congratulations to the finalists! Good luck I the next round! I picked right for once - wowza! ;-) Smiling!

9/30/2013 3:48:06 PM

Christopher J. Budny
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 10/3/2005
  I see gold in this thread... Congratulations, Peggy, and to all the other Winners for August!

10/1/2013 5:14:58 AM

  Congratulations to all the Winners!

10/1/2013 5:25:01 AM

  I just spent time admiring the finalists and winners, and I have to say that I am blown away by the amazing talent here.

Huge congrats to all the Staff Favorites, Finalist, and Winners! Very inspiring work!

10/1/2013 10:57:33 AM

  Congrats to all the finalists, winner s and Staff favorites! You all are awesome!

10/1/2013 11:03:17 PM

  Chiming in a bit late as I was away. CONGRATZ to all on your medals. I got lucky to have gotten two in August.



10/11/2013 3:47:08 AM

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Jeff E Jensen
BetterPhoto Member
Contact Jeff E
Jeff E's Gallery

member since: 6/8/2008
  62 .  Winners Circle Jan. 2013 through June 2013
Phello Photographers Club - Winners Circle July through December, 2013.
This discussion is for members of the Phello Photographers club to post finalists and winners.

9/14/2013 8:57:05 PM


30 Sec - f/4 - ISO 3200 - 17mm
Canon 5D Mk III - Canon 17-40 f/4.0L Photo Contest SECOND PLACE Winner
Gathering of the Domes
Gathering of the Domes

1649 Sec - f/6.3 - ISO 250 - 14mm
Canon 5D Mk III - Canon 14mm f/2.8L
Sorry this took so long to post, I completely forgot about it.

Two for me for July. One 2nd place and one of the new Staff Favorite, whatever that means.

9/15/2013 7:13:00 PM Photo Contest Finalist
f/5.6 1/200 -0.67 ISO 800
Canon 55-250mm at 135.0
Catch-all 7/17/13
One Finalist and one Staff Favorite for July.

9/16/2013 7:05:10 AM

f/5.6 1/1250 -0.33 ISO 160
Canon 70-200mm f/4L at 138.0
Flowers 7/3/13
Staff Favorite

9/16/2013 7:07:47 AM

  Nice work on both, Susan!

9/16/2013 3:23:51 PM

  Impressive work, as usual, Jeff. Congratulations!

9/16/2013 7:46:34 PM

  Congrats to both of you!!!

9/21/2013 2:36:40 PM Photo Contest Finalist
Spiral Jetty At Sunset
Spiral Jetty At Sunset
Canon EOS 7d, Tamron 18-270mm lens,f/29, 6 sec., ISO 100, -0.7 step
  Elakala Falls
Elakala Falls
Canon EOS 7d, Tamron 18-270mm lens,f/25, 25 sec., ISO 100, -0.7 step
One for me this month and one staff favorite

10/1/2013 3:41:49 AM

  Woo hoo BETH!!!!!! Glad they recognized these beautiful pictures!!!

10/1/2013 1:54:15 PM Photo Contest Finalist
f/5.6 1/500 ISO 200
Canon 28-135mm f/3.5 at 127.0
Nature & Landscapes 8/8/13
One for August.

10/2/2013 12:36:15 AM

  Congratulations, Beth! I love them both.

10/2/2013 12:38:18 AM

  Congrats Susan!!!

10/2/2013 4:53:45 AM

Stephen Shoff
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 8/23/2008 Photo Contest Finalist
The Door at the End
The Door at the End
f/8.0, 1/40 sec., ISO 1250; EF 17-40 f/4L @ 33mm

Ft. Point, San Francisco, CA

September finalist.

10/2/2013 8:37:30 PM

Stephen Shoff
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 8/23/2008

10/2/2013 8:40:07 PM

  Outstanding work, Stephen! Congratulations!

10/2/2013 8:43:11 PM Photo Contest Finalist
Big Sky, Little Bird
Big Sky, Little Bird

1/3200 Sec - f/6.3 - ISO 640 - 560mm
Canon 5D Mk III - Canon 400mm F/2.8L IS II - Canon EF 1.4x III
Congrats, everyone!

Stephen - I really love that shot, it should have gone further.

One for me for the month.

10/2/2013 8:44:33 PM

  Truly Fine Art Photography, Jeff. Very creative and appealing. Congratulations!

10/2/2013 10:46:13 PM Photo Contest Finalist
Thor's Hammer
Thor's Hammer
A composite of light painting and long star exposure. Photo Contest Finalist
Target Sited
Target Sited
1/2500 f7.1 400mm 2500 ISO Photo Contest Finalist
Light painting.

40 seconds f11 ISO 100

Still catching up a bit. These are great everyone. Well deseriving of recogntion.

I have one for Aug. and 2 for Sept.

10/9/2013 4:29:16 PM

  Congrats everyone!!!

10/9/2013 4:59:03 PM

  Beautiful work, Mike. Congratulations!

10/9/2013 8:04:37 PM

  Got lucky to have gotten two in August.



10/11/2013 3:31:13 AM

Interestingly enough, I managed two Finalists and one Staff Favorite. I thought it was interesting that they posted backwards this month -- first out came the Placed Winners and then a few of the Finalists (both posted last night followed by the rest of the Finalists this evening. Who knows what is going on???

Happy Halloween, everyone!

10/31/2013 3:42:43 PM Photo Contest Finalist
GLAMOUR POSE Photo Contest Finalist
Interestingly enough, I managed two Finalists and one Staff Favorite. I thought it was interesting that they posted backwards this month -- first out came the Placed Winners and then a few of the Finalists (both posted last night followed by the rest of the Finalists this evening. Who knows what is going on???

Happy Halloween, everyone!

10/31/2013 3:43:17 PM

  Pretend you don't see the Snake River image. Guess the Staff Picks don't go along with the image itself. Who knew?

10/31/2013 3:45:58 PM

  Congratulations Debbie!

10/31/2013 6:43:27 PM Photo Contest Finalist
An Afternoon at the Lake
An Afternoon at the Lake
f/5.6 1/2000 -0.67 ISO 1600
Canon 55-250mm @ 250.0
Catch-All 9/3/13
One Finalist for September.

11/1/2013 6:42:50 AM

  Congrats Debbie and Susan!!!

I FINALLY got an EP-first one since the beginning of summer...

11/1/2013 7:31:01 PM

  Congratulations on your Finalists and SF, Debbie, a notable achievement in the new BP environment! The Staff Favorite badge did appear at one point. Perhaps it's a glitch and they will restore it.

Congratulations on your EP, Elaine! I've visited your gallery and I believe you deserve so many more than the stingy Editor has given you.

11/2/2013 9:59:57 AM Photo Contest Finalist
Bogey Ten O'clock
Bogey Ten O'clock
1/1000 f5.6 ISO 250 400mm
One for me too.

Congratulations on the beautiful finalists, Debbie and Susan and your EP Elaine. I don't see those EP's much anymore. This shot had a SF one day and then changed to a finalist. Still not sure I understand what is going on with the contest.

11/2/2013 10:16:25 AM

  Congratulations on your Finalist, Mike! Everyone loved this capture and sure am glad the judges took notice.

11/2/2013 11:24:41 PM

  Woo hoo-congrats Mike!

11/3/2013 6:19:47 PM

  Congratulations Susan and MIke!! Also congratulations to you Elaine for the EP!

11/3/2013 7:19:03 PM

Looks like the EP and the Finalist's are out for October.

11/30/2013 9:17:32 AM

I guess the EP's and Finalist's are now out for October.

11/30/2013 9:20:45 AM

  Whoops! Having trouble uploading images! Sorry! Everyone! I batted a 1000 this time! Three EP's, one was Staff Pick, and the Staff Pick went to Finalist. I just can't figure out how to upload all three from my photos listed on here.

11/30/2013 9:25:47 AM

  Congrats, Beth! Just looked at October Finalists and your shot - Sunset Canon Settlement - is a finalist! WTG!

11/30/2013 6:35:36 PM Photo Contest Finalist

1/200 Sec - f/7.1 - ISO 100 - 90mm
Canon 5D Mk III - Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II
  The Milky Way
The Milky Way

30 Sec - f/2.8 - ISO 4000 - 14mm
Canon 5D Mk III - Canon 14mm f/2.8L
Congrats, everyone! One finalist and one staff favorite for me for October.

11/30/2013 6:40:55 PM

  Congrats, Susan, on your Finalist for October for wild Grain! WTG!

11/30/2013 6:41:10 PM Photo Contest Finalist
Sunset Canon Setlement
Sunset Canon Setlement
Ca, ISO non 7D, Tamron 18-250 mm lens, 1/30, f/9, ISO 200
Congratulations to Everyone. I had one, it was also a Staff Favorite.

11/30/2013 8:25:09 PM Photo Contest Finalist
Wild Grain
Wild Grain
f/6.3 1/4000 -0.67 ISO 400
Focal length 208.0mm
Nature & Landscapes 10/26/13
Congratulations on your October Finalists Kalena, Jeff and Beth.

One for me.

12/1/2013 2:03:03 AM

  Thank you, it's been a long time!

12/1/2013 7:08:56 AM

  Congratulations on some very fine shots everyone.

I note that there are a number of shots not posted. I saw 3 by Dale and one by Debbie (get them in so that all may see) I also note that some of our finalists should have gone further in my opinion, but the judges seem to have their own criteria.

12/1/2013 5:11:01 PM Photo Contest Finalist
Yeah...Mike. They sure do have their own criteria. The problem being no one knows just what that is. This one I got a Finalist on was one I almost didn't add at all to the line-up. IMHO, I thought a few of the others were much better. Go figure. Here is the one I got this month.

12/1/2013 6:16:43 PM

  Wow-congrats to everyone!!! Well deserved!

12/2/2013 6:30:23 PM Photo Contest Finalist
Colorado Falls
Colorado Falls
Another shot from a small stream with falls on the road to Mt. Evans.

PP in LR5 and Nik Color Efx


I did get one for October.

12/9/2013 8:05:10 AM

  Congratulations Debbie and Kalena

12/9/2013 8:21:48 AM

  Congratulations Debbie and Kalena!

12/11/2013 9:09:40 PM

December Finalist.

1/3/2014 5:32:09 AM Photo Contest Finalist
Moves in Mind
Moves in Mind
A composite.
DD 11/22/13
December Finalist.

1/3/2014 5:34:11 AM

Natural/Abstract Photography
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November Finalist

1/3/2014 7:07:16 AM

  Congrats to the November Finalists!

1/3/2014 3:40:14 PM

  Congrats Susan and Kalena!

1/4/2014 2:42:50 PM

Natural/Abstract Photography
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member since: 5/17/2006
  Congratulations to Susan and Kalena and everyone else too ~April

1/4/2014 3:09:28 PM Photo Contest Finalist
After The Storm
After The Storm
Canon 7D, Tamron 18-270mm lens, f/13, 1/250, ISO 200
Congratulations to everyone! I have one also.

1/4/2014 7:57:52 PM

  How did I miss this one? Beautiful! Congrats!

1/5/2014 5:06:28 AM

  Congratulations, Beth! Beautiful seascape!

1/5/2014 6:57:00 PM Photo Contest Finalist
Piano Steps 2
Piano Steps 2
Taken from one of my favorite restaurants - Lone Star Attitude. These are the steps up to the third level. I thought it made an interesting shot looking down form the top.
Nikon D7000, 18-200mm at 18mm, 1/3 sec at f9, ISO 160. PP in LR5 and PSE 12.


December Finalist - Piano Steps 2 fron LSA - Lone Star Attitude restaurant in Denton, TX.

Thank you, Dale, for telling me about the "screen" tool in PSE that made this photo better.

2/1/2014 5:37:58 AM

  Congrats Kalena!!!

2/1/2014 4:23:12 PM

  Thanks, Elaine.

2/1/2014 4:41:27 PM

f/7.1 1/250 -1.0 ISO 320
Animals 12/12/13
Just a Staff Favorite.

2/1/2014 6:31:24 PM

Congratulations to all of you. December was not my best month -- I kept forgetting to submit, so I was lucky to get two Staff Favorites at least.

2/1/2014 11:09:23 PM

Congratulations to all of you. December was not my best month -- I kept forgetting to submit, so I was lucky to get two Staff Favorites at least.

2/1/2014 11:09:53 PM

Congratulations to all of you. December was not my best month -- I kept forgetting to submit, so I was lucky to get two Staff Favorites at least.

Will try again tomorrow as they are not letting me put in the numbers tonight.

2/1/2014 11:10:31 PM

  Congratulations to all of you!

2/2/2014 4:33:13 AM Photo Contest SECOND PLACE Winner

.5 Sec - f/2.2 - ISO 80 - 5.2mm
Canon PowerShot S120
I'm to the point that I'm only entering 3-4 per month, so I guess I got lucky this month with a 2nd place.

2/2/2014 5:00:52 AM

Thought I'd try again. Here are my two Staff Picks.

2/2/2014 9:00:36 AM

  Congrats everyone! All all did good! My Piano Steps went Staff Fav after I posted. I got a bonus! Thanks, again Dale, for the help!

2/2/2014 9:55:49 AM

Maybe they will finally show up this time...

2/3/2014 7:40:32 AM

  Outstanding work, all! Congratulations! It's great to see the Phellos in the spotlight!

2/3/2014 8:31:59 AM Photo Contest SECOND PLACE Winner
~Golden Gate Bridge~
~Golden Gate Bridge~
Hey everyone!!1!
Got my first "Gold"! Super excited!! hopefully it's the first of many to come...

2/3/2014 3:28:56 PM

  Congrats Susan, Debbie, and Jeff! Yay!

2/4/2014 9:29:42 AM

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Jill Odice
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  63 .  September EFPs
Since nobody else has started one, thought I would go ahead...:-)

9/8/2013 10:59:14 PM

  9/1 Skipped
9/2 Back to School in Bodie - MT category
9//3 Boone's General Store-T & P category
9/4 skipped
9/5 Union Brewery-DD category

9/8/2013 11:05:40 PM

  Got one for 9/5 - As The Day Begins for Nature and Landscape

9/9/2013 5:31:51 AM

  9/1..Animals..Stop Interrupting Me
9/4..Landscape..Some Of That Great Oklahoma Light

9/9/2013 10:44:20 AM

  Nine up, nine ignored. Not happy.

9/9/2013 11:12:22 AM

  I'd just checked before posting the above - within minutes, I found one for the 7th. Other eight skipped.

9/9/2013 11:34:07 AM

  9/8..Landscape..I'll Take Clouds Like This Any Day
Just now.

9/9/2013 11:41:01 AM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  9/1 A New Day...Nature & Landscapes
9/2 Skipped
9/3 Early Signs Of Fall....Nature & Landscapes
9/4 Dinner Time...Nature & Landscapes
9/5 Grab Hold.....Nature & Landscapes
9/6 Red Leaf Floating...Catch All
9/7 Pretty Flyer...Nature & Landscapes

9/9/2013 1:53:18 PM

  9/5- Cherry Red And White Picket
9/6-A View From The East-2

9/9/2013 4:36:42 PM

  Oh, I also got one for
9/1- Storms Coming which, at the time, September forum wasn't up yet and I put it in August's.

9/9/2013 4:44:31 PM


9/9/2013 6:44:15 PM

  9/9..Catch All..Back In The Day
That makes 5 for September, and the same for August..I really feel cheated in the August picks. Anybody can see there was some pretty good (for me) stuff left out and some not so good put in. I'm totally confused. Who the heck is picking these (August) EPs?? Not exactly what you would expect with somebody "looking at each and every photo" is it?

9/10/2013 10:24:39 AM

  9/9..Catch All..Back In The Day
That makes 5 for September, and the same for August..I really feel cheated in the August picks. Anybody can see there was some pretty good (for me) stuff left out and some not so good put in. I'm totally confused. Who the heck is picking these (August) EPs?? Not exactly what you would expect with somebody "looking at each and every photo" is it?

9/10/2013 10:24:40 AM

  9/1 skip
9/2 skip
9/3 skip
9/4 bomb scare
9/5 the only way to ride
9/7 skip
9/8 the louvre

9/10/2013 4:22:20 PM

  9/2 Morning Glow - skipped
9/3 Harvest Time - first EP in months
9/4 Knight Lines - skipped
9/5 2-Story Web - skipped

9/11/2013 7:48:03 AM


jo ann c.

9/11/2013 7:52:22 AM

  Wowza, I'm on a roll for September! lol

I have ONE! Attention getter 9-7!!!

Now I feel more confident...:-0

jo ann c.

9/11/2013 7:57:11 AM

  School is Closed
Monthly Theme

Hi There

9/11/2013 8:11:30 AM

  If they're finished through the 9th, goes like this:

1st skip
2nd skip
3rd Deep Water people EP
4th skip
5th Roseate Spoonbill animal EP
6th Turning Point EoD EP
7th skip
8th skip
9th skip

9/11/2013 9:11:25 AM

Brian M. Jones
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member since: 11/28/2012
  I am curious is to wonder if "Everyone" is feeling the pinch of not getting EP's like they used to or is it that the usual Winners are still getting EP's like before and the rest of us are getting skipped..

Just curious and I am not here to offend anyone nor do I want angry emails, I am just wondering if BP is playing fair and cutting back EP's for "Everyone"

9/11/2013 11:41:28 AM

  Why are they caught up for Sept. but Aug. still lingers?????

9/11/2013 12:17:40 PM

Tammy Espino
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9/11/2013 12:56:34 PM

  9/1 Digital Darkroom Golden Light

9/7 Details & Macro Roller Derby

9/8 Catch All Blushing

9/11/2013 6:13:45 PM

  9/1 Baking Day (D&M)

Yes Brian, feeling the pinch. I used to go from about 99% EP's to one so far this month and 1 last month. I'm not feeling the love! LOL

9/11/2013 6:21:06 PM

  Thank you Jill!

9/1 - 9/8 no entries
9/9 Shabby Chic - Flowers

Guess that means I'm at

9/12/2013 10:43:11 AM

Brian M. Jones
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  Is anyone out there? Have not heard anyone in the forum at all today..

9/13/2013 8:59:41 PM

  Hi Brian :-) Nothing new yet...looks like the staff is on vacation :-)

9/14/2013 12:16:21 PM

Brian M. Jones
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  Hi Jill, thanks.. Yeah looks like they have been on a long

9/14/2013 2:12:23 PM

  Hi Brian, I have 7 for August and only 1 for September..but...a long time before we here about August and longer til September! A lot of us are still commenting on the August one even for September, I go back and look at both..

Good luck, I think is what is needed...

jo ann c.

9/16/2013 5:18:08 PM

  I've got only 4 for August and 4 for September despite entering every day. I doubt they've looked at all my images.

9/16/2013 10:41:30 PM

  EPs for September 2, 3, 4 and 7 so far.


9/17/2013 12:24:58 AM

  Three for August, one for September and I've entered every day both months (so far). Oh well, I've paid for the space through early 2015 so might as well keep filling it up. And always enjoy getting inspiration from all your entries!

9/17/2013 7:05:54 AM

  Only 5 for August and 5 for September so far. Downright sad, isn't it?

9/17/2013 10:00:09 AM

  I haven't had an EP since the 2nd of sept.. Of course I haven't entered any since the 2nd so that might explain it.

9/17/2013 2:18:19 PM

  Haha Nick! Yea that pretty much explains my entries (lack of) as well....

9/18/2013 4:21:36 AM

  MY EP's stopped on 9/8 have not had one since, not sure if it is my photogrpahs or they have just not handed out any recently.

9/18/2013 2:30:47 PM

  Nick and Susan ... I'm getting the idea now ... maybe not buying tickets is why I haven't won the lottery yet! LOL!

9/18/2013 4:38:36 PM

Rita Smith
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  I'm really heartbroken, I have finally improved on some of my photo's and was grateful to have EP's, didn't need finalist or winner... Just to know they thought the photo was good enough to get past that first round made me proud as a peacock, now I am beginning to think I am getting nowhere....

9/18/2013 6:48:24 PM

  Don't feel bad Ritajane most of us are in the same boat. I am actually pleased that I have 2 EP's for August now I was beginning to think it was just me. I went from almost all EP's to pretty much nothing.

9/18/2013 6:54:09 PM

  Yesterday I got EPs for 23rd, 24th, 25th and 26th of August (while for 1st-22th in total, I got also 4).... this certainly doesn't mean a miraculous improvement in my photography!

9/18/2013 11:48:21 PM

  Is BP so eager to get on with October, that they have left a good part of August and September behind? Only 4 for September and I have only skipped one or two days. Major Bummer!! I thought they were on a roll for a while-seems NOT.

9/23/2013 11:55:46 AM

  Oops! Make that only 3 so far(I need to be positive) for September : (

Maybe they are counting some from August that they missed on the first round-wishful thinking???

9/23/2013 12:01:55 PM

  Just got one yesterday for August 3, if you can believe that...but September might as well not be happening. My wishful thinking cap stopped working at least a month ago. Best I can say is I don't even bother trying anymore - I just upload whatever turns ME on (which I always did anyway, but quality used to matter as well).

9/23/2013 12:11:00 PM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  Having not entered anything since 9/21 I see that my ambition to enter is directly affected by the response time they take in reviewing our images. It used to be so much more fun here getting that instant gratification or at least some sort of acknowledgement that they passed it by because others got EPs all ready. Now you never know where your image stands. A month later I dont even know what catagory I entered them in. lol . I kind of wonder who is filling out these surveys they send and if they are in fact as positive as they say. I see they are actually runnng again the 2 for 1 sale. At this point in th egame I wouldn't even purchase a 10 to 1.

9/26/2013 9:42:56 AM

  This is really sad, everyone. A multitude of concerns from members with everyone feeling deflated due to lack of EP's. As far as I'm concerned, this is jeopardizing my interest in continuing on as a member as I really enjoyed the fun of encouragement from other members and the contest with of course the EP's. I sent a note in two days ago but don't have a response yet. Will let you know if I do hear something...

9/26/2013 12:40:43 PM

  With so many members that participate on the EFP threads over the past six months threatening not to renew, it will be interesting to see 1]if that's true; 2] if enough people don't renew (even on the 2-fer; and 3] if a lack of renewals would have a big enough impact that the old ways will return.

9/26/2013 1:09:13 PM

  Kathy, I just don't see that happening! BP has moved on and away from those of us here!

9/26/2013 2:19:29 PM

  I remain optimistic - more or less. maybe sort of.

9/26/2013 2:57:53 PM

  I think they don't believe anybody will actually not renew. I also think they have pretty good reason to believe that.
I've seen quite a few threaten and nobody follow through, so it's kind of a threat that never materializes. Nobody wants to leave the social aspects of the site. We all have good friends here and that means a lot.

9/26/2013 3:43:06 PM

  Sometimes I get the feeling they are trying to phase out the galleries in favor of the more expensive websites? I have gotten several emails about the 2 for 1's on them, but no word on the same deal for the galleries...I have friends who have not renewed and won't renew unless the 2 for 1 comes back...Most of the women I shoot with hardly participate here anymore which is a shame as we used to be able to share photos from our adventures together. I guess nothing great lasts forever...

9/27/2013 9:11:41 AM

  That thought also had occurred to me, Jill - but then I remembered that in the past the 2-Fer for the Pros offers normally didn't come at the same time as the Basic renewal offers. The latter usually came in the Spring (just about the same time as my account would be expiring soon anyway.) I rarely paid attention and simply took advantage of the sales which pretty much explains why my subscription doesn't expire until April 2015.

9/27/2013 9:42:39 AM

  I think you are probably right about the renewals, Carolyn. This has been happening for quite some time now, and no changes have been made. I had 4 EP's in August and have had absolutely none for Sept. :/

9/28/2013 2:57:16 PM

  The question is what's the measure for renewals or not...what's the calculation?

9/28/2013 3:27:38 PM


9/30/2013 3:15:13 AM

  My answer to your question: I also saw the 2 for 1 add. I had been considering getting the website for awhile and had decided to do so. I have been waiting to see if this management had changed any but realized it was the same old-same old. I went with Smugmug. They have a good site for $60 per year and have been very helpful in setting mine up. It was $70 cheaper and a lot better response from the site. I was afraid to invest $199 for a site here since things have changed so drastically. Since the contest is now for free I am sorry I paid for 2 years.

9/30/2013 3:27:26 AM

  This place has turned into a ghost town!
It looks like Elvis has left the building!
It is NOT a hot time in the old town tonight!

9/30/2013 3:38:55 AM

  Patricia B. I have had my website with them since 2003 and for the most part love dealing with them. They are on top of things and will answer any questions immediately about how to set things up etc. I am not a techie, so many times if I ask nicely they will actually just fix things for me rather then try and explain how to do it :-)I am a bit overwhelmed with the new changes they are making, but have awhile yet before I have to switch to the new look.
I started out paying 59.00 for the pro level which went up over the years but not much. Recently I decided that since I was not using them to sell stuff to just go to the lower level for about 1/2 the cost.

9/30/2013 10:17:30 AM

  The Finalists are out...

My week is jammed with preparing for a trip, so please accept this as my sincere congratulations to those of you who did receive a Silver (and further to those who receive Golds.)

9/30/2013 1:22:38 PM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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member since: 3/21/2010
  Have a great trip Kathy.

9/30/2013 1:41:28 PM


10/2/2013 9:01:45 AM

  Nothing more for September, but I got one for October 1, so I guess we need a new page.

10/3/2013 11:17:06 AM

  Kathy, thoroughly enjoy your trip.

Me too, nothing more in September, and one for October 1. Crazy, insane schedule from BP. I honestly can think of no rational reason for it, and it makes me buggy. Anyway, here's the October 1.


10/3/2013 11:26:24 AM

  Mitch, your Currency is awesome, that is sure to be a winner girl! I LOVE IT!!

jo ann c.

10/3/2013 12:02:11 PM

  I think that Carolyn Fletcher's email addresses were hijacked. Don't open the hyperlink (or anytime you get a strange email from a friend with only a hyperlink in the body with no note from your friend.)

The email I got had a subject line of : fwd re: hello and included only a hyperlink.

10/3/2013 1:36:20 PM

Ken Beatty
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  What's up with September? Only 2 EFP's? Tag...

10/3/2013 2:23:12 PM

  Odd email from Carolyn, as well. Dont click on the link!

10/3/2013 2:26:42 PM


10/3/2013 2:37:56 PM

  I think it's under control. I changed passwords, ran a virus scan (negative)and am being monitored for 24 hours to see if anything else happens. What an ordeal!

10/3/2013 5:39:55 PM

  Has anyone heard from Cheri?

10/3/2013 6:16:17 PM

  Ive had it happen to me too Carolyn. Luckily I was able to keep my same email address I had for years. It's annoying that people have nothing better to do than try and steal from others :(

10/3/2013 6:21:32 PM

  It was kind of weird, I wasn't even home when it happened. When I got home there were a bunch of bounced back emails I supposedly sent from the Jacquie Lawson website. I haven't sent anything from there for about 6 months.
Maybe it was them that got hacked. Nothing else went through and there have been no more. It's got me confused. I did get to keep my email address far. LOL

10/3/2013 7:01:17 PM

  A September EP showed up overnight..
8/10..Landscape..A Spectacular Night Sight

10/4/2013 2:20:30 AM

  And another October one this morning.
Jill, you better put up an October page.

10/4/2013 4:22:22 AM

  Carolyn: I got a warning from Adobe this morning that my adobe ID may have been comprimized; that Adobe's password system had been hacked and that I should change my password, and all other sites that I have used it on. Could be what happened to you. Think of how many Adobe customers there are-whew. I also got a strange message last week on my cell phone, that I had been hacked, so I think all this is coming from the same place. I have my phone mirroring what I get on my computer. What a mess!

10/4/2013 5:12:16 AM

  Nancy Marie, Amy Weiss wrote that Adobe PS Cloud users had been hacked so badly that all their passwords and financial info was compromised. It's serious enough that she had to order a new debit card etc. It's totally different (at least from earlier FB experiences) than what Carolyn is experiencing.

10/4/2013 5:20:38 AM

  I don't have an Adobe password anyway.
I'm still using an old "borrowed" Photoshop 7.

10/4/2013 5:45:38 AM

  The Adobe thing is not about your hacking from FB, Carolyn. It's what Nancy Marie should check into - seriously.

10/4/2013 6:10:23 AM

  Carolyn, I got 2 hacked emails form you yesterday...I usually do not open anything that has nothing in the subject line and never click on any links...I will start the October thread :-)

10/4/2013 7:01:14 AM

  If anybody gets anything more emails from me, let me know!

10/4/2013 9:06:08 AM

  It is the ugly side of business. Most photos are not even being looked at. Saves the sight money not to have to judge by looking at the photo's everyday.
They are playing it smart to by not caring about or addressing the concerns of its customers because they know that most of us will renew anyway. If you contact them they will not respond.
BP is in the position where it is making good money and it can at the same time ignore its customers. Most businesses could not survive doing that, but BP can because its customers enjoy the social and sharing part of BP.
The only thing we can do is enjoy our photography, encourage each other, never judge your work by the judges who usually don't even see your work. Do what you love to do. Don't let BP and its staff destroy your love for seeing the beauty in the world. Support each other, encourage one another, cherish the friendships.

10/5/2013 3:53:10 AM

  Plus 1, Frank!

10/5/2013 7:49:48 AM

  Great advise Frank. I fell into that trap of judging my work that way this past month. Thanks for the encouraging words! Many congrats to all Sept. contest winners!!

10/5/2013 8:11:14 AM

  Beware.... Tammy Newcomb's email addresses were also hijacked.

10/7/2013 5:13:47 AM

  Mine may well have been an Adobe thing. I didn't think I had a password over there, but I must have got one when I registered my Elements 9..I got an email from Adobe saying they had changed it, and I could change it again by hanging from the ceiling by a spiderweb and licking my keyboard, or something about as NOT easy. I have no use for Adobe online, so I just left it at whatever they changed it to.

10/7/2013 5:21:57 AM

  I'm not a cloud user, but I did get the same email yesterday from Adobe about my password needing to be re-set. I'm not that fond of spiderwebs so I think I'll pass as well! I had been debating the CS6 upgrade before it all goes to the cloud at the end of the year. Now I think NOT. Interesting that I heard from Adobe days after Kathy reported the issue here.

10/7/2013 8:13:08 AM

  Carolyn, I want to see you do the change of your password!!! :-)

10/7/2013 9:03:19 AM

  I bet you would~ That's why I'm not changing it. LOL

10/7/2013 9:17:01 AM

Rita Smith
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  Hey everybody, I was informed I needed to change mine to because 2.9 million accounts had been compromised, I had to change 3 CC cards.

10/7/2013 10:57:26 AM

  Maybe we should have a separate thread for these discussions?

10/7/2013 12:55:05 PM

  9/5-Good Morning Sunshine.

Nothing for October yet.

10/7/2013 12:59:23 PM

  For the first time, I did not get a single EP for the entire month last month. Am I that bad?

10/7/2013 8:42:05 PM

  Has anybody gotten a Editors Pick since Sept 7th? Not including October ones...

10/7/2013 9:18:23 PM

  Alex, heavens no you are not that bad! I'm beging to think they are trying to phase out the contest! Just a thought!

10/7/2013 10:04:03 PM

  Tag. Also congratulations to all the Amazing, August Staff Favorites, Finalists and Winners!!! Sorry I can't comment on all of them individually but I would if I could :-)

10/7/2013 10:07:37 PM

  Thank you Joannie for your encouragement. I was wondering myself if they are not so enthusiastic about the contest anymore.

10/7/2013 10:13:29 PM

Ken Smith
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  Alex, based on this EP thread, I think BP is only up to Sept 10th for handing out EPs. Or maybe the 9th. There's many more days to come for EP chances in Sept.

10/8/2013 3:48:07 AM

  9/10..Landscape..A Spectacular Night Sight
I thought I had put this one in a week or so ago when I got it, but I guess not, I don't see it.
Nothing since the 10th that I know of.

10/8/2013 3:59:11 AM

  My last EP was around Sept. 7; zero since. Doubt the contest will disappear, but rather is being seriously de-emphasized/discouraged in an effort to refocus on why the site was started (classes and, to a lesser degree, upscale galleries). Only thing I'm SURE of, though, is that the quality of our photos has not taken a nosedive all of a sudden.

10/8/2013 7:28:23 AM

  My last was 9/7. I didn't enter again until 9/13, so hard to tell where they stopped ...

10/8/2013 10:02:49 AM

  Ken, that explains it. My first entry for September was on 11th. I guess I'm not the only one who felt discouragement. I was wondering if they don't like seeing my work any longer. I'm very sensitive. LOL

10/8/2013 12:47:30 PM

Ken Smith
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  Alex, then you're good to go. And Carolyn, I did see your EP comment earlier about the 10th of Sept. I had to scroll up a bit. It's hard to find actual EP comments on the EP forum now. :-)

10/8/2013 12:53:23 PM

  October thread....

Or just change the number above from 36019 (Sept) to 36032 (Oct)

10/8/2013 3:51:14 PM

  9/11..Animals.. Three In The Field

10/9/2013 2:59:57 AM

  They are just now giving EP's for photo's uploaded a month ago....what the heck?

10/9/2013 9:37:23 AM

  And all is settled and winners and finalist are posted for September....oh well, if you got an EP in September, still be proud? :-)

jo ann c.

10/9/2013 10:34:38 AM

  Seems like I'm totally left out of the race. I have no EP for September.

10/9/2013 10:48:43 AM

  Those are not September winners, they are August. Somebody goofed up big time.

10/9/2013 10:56:05 AM Photography Contest: September 2013 Contest Winners

How could I get this mixed up? :-0

Just because it said SEPTEMBER 2013??

And they are dated in gets complicated! :-)

jo ann c.

10/9/2013 11:36:11 AM

Brian M. Jones
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  Okay so the Finalist Picks for September has not even come out, yet they have already announced September winners?? Looks like the same winners for August.. What the hell is going on at BetterPhoto..

10/9/2013 1:07:00 PM

  Nothing serious, somebody just put the wrong title on the page. I wrote in about it, so I'm sure they will fix it soon.

10/9/2013 1:14:30 PM

Brian M. Jones
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  Oh Okay Carolyn, I was going say.. So many weird confusing things lately on here, I thought this was another BetterPhoto change that they didn't tell us about..

10/9/2013 1:19:18 PM

  Here is the pattern as I see it...they won't post September finalists and winners until we are well into Nov.! CRAZY!

10/9/2013 2:41:06 PM

  Seems like the pattern has been that close to the end of the month, they finish up the EPs from the prior month (usually from mid month on). At this point they have stopped EPs on the current month (again, getting thru about half the month). Then they announce SFs, Finalists then Winners. What's even more odd is that, instead of starting back up where they left off in mid month, they instead start on EPs for the new month. Mid month they'll stop the current month EPs and go back to finish the prior month. Rinse, repeat...

I can't figure out what benefit they would get from doing it this way but there either is one or the new software won't let them do things the old way. I miss the old way, the pace and the involvement. It was more lively and more fun. Honestly, that made it more addictive!

10/9/2013 4:21:22 PM

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  You know, I have been wondering if maybe they might be short on judges, down sizing ect... And if they are that might be the reason they are slow to get everything done? Might they contact members of Betterphoto who have really great photography skills to start EP'S, Then those judges that are left give out the finalists and winners?? Just an idea....

10/9/2013 5:21:15 PM

  I believe that's been suggested years ago and turned down.

10/9/2013 7:59:25 PM

  Maybe they should just go back to the way I used to be before they even had EPs where you had to wait until the end of the month to find out if you had a finalist?

10/10/2013 8:48:36 AM

  I could handle that. But I also feel like BP is evolving with these changes so I'm curious. Plus, I enjoy hearing from you guys and seeing your work so I'm not getting off the ride just yet. :)

10/10/2013 11:43:37 AM

  I agree with you Jill. I rather just wait it out and see what happens instead of wondering whether or not my 1 EP per month will make the cut.

10/10/2013 6:42:35 PM

  EFP's over night for the 11th & 12th.

10/11/2013 4:27:57 AM

  Just saw one this morning for the 13th. (They skipped 7th through 12th.)

Old-Time Technology

10/11/2013 6:22:25 AM

Schiavonn M. Hasslinger
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  9/12 "Garden"

10/11/2013 7:03:23 AM

  I just got one for "The Gathering" dated 13th..

jo ann c.

10/11/2013 7:30:20 AM

  9/12.. Catch All..Find The Fly On The Flower
9/13..Landscape..A Sunset To Love

10/11/2013 7:33:38 AM

  Finally I got my first EP for September. And I hope it's not the last.
9/11 Edelyn at St. Ignatius

10/11/2013 10:39:45 AM

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  Painted Lady Butterfly
Painted Lady Butterfly
9/11 Details and Macro

9/12 Animals

9/13 Catch All
Sulphur Butterfly

10/11/2013 11:21:22 AM

  Both Sides Now
Both Sides Now
9/10 skipped
9/11 skipped
9/12 Both Sides Now ....E of D
9/13 Sunshine.... Flowers

10/11/2013 2:39:55 PM

  This is too weird ... I saw the updates in this thread so I went and looked at my 9/13 entry. I swear it had an EP, and a minute later it didn't! Has anyone ever had that happen?

10/11/2013 6:58:50 PM

  Yes. Email BP support and give them your photo ID# and title. They should re-instate your EP, or give you a reason why not.

10/11/2013 8:12:51 PM

  Thanks, Nancy Marie!

10/11/2013 8:14:37 PM

not sure if my pictures are getting better or the staff are giving more EPs. LOL

10/12/2013 10:16:21 AM

  Before the Storm
Before the Storm
The Louvre before the rain set in.
not sure if my pictures are getting better or the staff are giving more EPs. LOL

10/12/2013 10:18:34 AM

another one

10/14/2013 9:12:40 AM

  Sunset in the Swamp
Sunset in the Swamp
the louisiana swamp can be dangerous but also beautiful
another september

10/16/2013 3:06:13 PM

  9/13 Digital Darkroom

Split Personality

10/16/2013 3:51:38 PM

  They skipped over half of September for me, but I got one for Oct 2nd today-I wonder if this is going to be like this forever-doing 3 months at a time?

10/16/2013 4:01:07 PM

  I got only two for September. Very encouraging (;^_^)

10/16/2013 4:07:45 PM

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  Tony what dates were your submissions? I dont think I have seen any activity on mine since the 14th on the September entries.

10/16/2013 4:12:02 PM

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  The last EP I've seen was from the 13th...maybe the 14th, on this thread. There's still 16 days to go, so just keep checking the September EP forum and don't be discouraged if you haven't gotten any EPs on photos submitted after 14 Sept. None of us have gotten EPs.

BP may continue to hand out EPs for October. They've had multiple months going simultaneously for the last several months. It's their new "Ops Normal." They'll finish up September soon enough.

If BP does it like the last two months, there will be an increase in September EPs over the next 10 days or so.

10/16/2013 7:44:11 PM

  If you look at my port I got one on the 14th yesterday or this morning. I have everything with dates on them.

10/17/2013 6:13:28 AM

  I only have 2 for September, 9-7 Attention Getter, and 9-13The Gathering

jo ann c.

10/17/2013 6:57:12 AM

  You beat me, Jo Ann - I have exactly ONE for September!

10/17/2013 7:07:22 AM

  Well, looks as though they've started up again. September 14, Nature and Landscapes.

Anhinga and Friend

10/17/2013 8:11:05 AM

  There's hope yet! Maybe I'll stop for a bit digging the hole I was gonna bury myself in... :-)

10/17/2013 8:40:26 AM

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  Hey Bob, may I borrow your shovel? lol

10/17/2013 12:04:28 PM

  Jayne, may I use the shovel next? :-)

10/17/2013 12:25:21 PM

  Let's all just jump in the damn hole and get it over with! LOL

10/17/2013 12:43:56 PM

  We've got to choose 1 person to stay outside the hole to take pictures of us..... :-)

10/17/2013 12:58:26 PM

  Well! I would hate to lose y'all, but that picture certainly would be unique! :-)

jo ann c.

10/17/2013 1:02:26 PM

  Indeed it would! All of BPs profits down the hole......nyuk nyuk nyuk

10/17/2013 1:04:15 PM

  I get to be on top of the bunch in the hole...I'm very small. LOL

10/17/2013 1:12:36 PM

  Ya'll are cracking me up. Count me in!

10/17/2013 1:22:36 PM

Tammy Espino
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  :) Funny peeps. I am too tall to fit in any small hole.I will take the photo!!
I am on a roll five for Sept. The most I have had in a very long time!!

10/17/2013 2:24:42 PM

  Ohhh nooo Tammy! I called it first, I WILL take the picture! :-0 See my call above! :0

jo ann c.

10/17/2013 3:44:56 PM

Tammy Espino
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  JO Anne, ok ok you can take the photo. I will take a photo of you taking the

10/17/2013 3:59:44 PM

  Well that photo ought to get an EP if nothing else does! :-)

10/17/2013 4:37:44 PM

  Or a GP, Joannie, since we'll all be in the hole and that'll be the only image in the contest... :-)

10/17/2013 5:41:50 PM

  I like the way you think Bob! :-)

10/17/2013 8:39:10 PM

  Miners Shack
Miners Shack
Miner's Shack T & P category 09/14

10/17/2013 11:47:02 PM

  Bomb Scare
Bomb Scare
i fly all the way to paris and the day I go to photograph the arc there was a bomb scare and we couldnt get near it.
this is from earlier in the month

10/19/2013 7:07:51 AM

  There were a whole slew of notifications in my email this morning. Are the Finalists on the pictures involved for August or for September?

Sometimes, people see the awards (which show no dates) way after the fact and comment. But, then I can't figure out if the award is new or old.

10/19/2013 12:22:09 PM

  You should be able to look back through the comments and see when the first congratulatory messages came through. I've done that before - doesn't take a minute. I'm sure these were August. They haven't even finished EPs for September. That said, I just looked in the place where they post the finalists on the main page and it looks as if they have re-posted the August Finalists but called them September Finalists. They had mis-named the August Winners (and maybe Finalists - the Winners are still mis-named) and called them September. But there were no August Winners in the list. I wrote them about this some time ago - I'm thinking others may have, too. Maybe whoever is trying to correct the mistake is confused :)

10/19/2013 12:55:51 PM

  I wrote them also. Got a note back from Kerry saying they were working on it, it was a glitch..apparently they went the wrong way to correct it.

10/19/2013 1:24:31 PM

  That's usually how I do it too, Nikki. I had forgotten that somebody had mentioned a glitch (was getting ready for, and taking a trip so didn't keep up with things.) That could be why I feel so off-kilter. Thanks to you and Carolyn for the explanation.

10/19/2013 1:56:41 PM

  Pretty Butterfly
Pretty Butterfly
09/15 Pretty Butterfly D & M category

10/21/2013 7:43:37 PM

I,too,just got one for the 15th!!

10/21/2013 7:59:06 PM

I,too,just got one for the 15th!!

10/21/2013 8:00:12 PM

  I guess that means I'm skipped for both the 14th and 15th.

10/22/2013 2:28:42 AM

  Welcome to my world Carolyn! :-(

10/22/2013 6:07:04 AM

  Oh, I don't think they are done for the 15th . . . my entry was wonderful and it doesn't have one yet LOL

10/22/2013 7:09:46 AM

  Susan S., I think you hit the nail right on the head with that pattern description!

Just got one for the 15th. My first for Sept.

10/22/2013 11:26:46 AM

  Not sure exactly when it came in, but I finally got one for the 15th (I had looked when Dianne reported a couple of days ago and two or three times since then and it wasn't there, but it is this morning).

September 15 - Catch-All

10/25/2013 8:20:11 AM

  Great Nikki! Now, I looked after reading YOUR post, and I got another on the 17th! Yay!! Let's keep this going! lol :)

10/25/2013 8:32:30 AM

9/17..EOD..Old But Still Proud
9/18..CatchAll..Miss? I Don't Think So!
9/19..Animals..Rest In Peace, Sweet Sammy

10/25/2013 9:03:31 AM

  Another for the 18th.. Lincoln's Top Hat.

10/25/2013 9:17:08 AM

9/16 Splash N&L category

10/25/2013 10:10:32 AM

9/17 skipped
9/18 Goblets, Catch all category

10/25/2013 10:13:37 AM

  September 16 Details and Macro

September 17 skipped. Of course, it's my favorite of the month.
CSA Soldier

September 18 Nature and Landscapes
Garden Spot

10/25/2013 11:38:06 AM

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  9/15 Early Morning

Woo hoo! 100% of my September entries received Editor's Pick!

Okay, so I only entered one - but we'll ignore that minor little detail, and just go with the 100%. :)

10/25/2013 7:52:56 PM

The skipped ones are too many to list :

10/25/2013 8:07:43 PM

9/19-Demanding Center Stage

This one was picked the day after my previous one, so maybe they are looking faster since the end of the month is nearing ?

10/26/2013 7:30:05 AM

  9/20..Landscape..Gorgeous Rays From Above

10/26/2013 4:06:22 PM

  Woot Woot for Pat and her 100% success rate!!!

10/26/2013 4:09:46 PM

  That's funny, Pat. :D

10/26/2013 4:17:50 PM

  9/19-Silhouettes At Sun Up
9/20-Spits And Polish
9/24-(B/W)-On The Other Side

10/27/2013 6:23:19 AM

9/23..Landscape..Scary But Beautiful
9/25..Landscape..It Was A Very Bad Week
9/27..Macro..Double Bubble

10/27/2013 6:42:21 AM

  9/22 Nature and Landscapes (after a couple of skips that do not surprise me)
Autumn Reflections

Then I forgot to enter for three days straight which I NEVER do - but not having anything to check in for has gotten me kind of out of the BP habit. Skipped 9/26 and 9/27 and those do surprise me, especially 9.27 as it's one with three member favorites which I rarely get; nothing yet for the rest of the month.

10/27/2013 7:48:04 AM

  1000 Hands Goddess Dance
1000 Hands Goddess Dance
  Poppies and Alfalfa
Poppies and Alfalfa
9/21 Geisha - people category
9/22 Mannequin? - people category
9/23 1000 Hands Goddess Dance- People category
9/27 Poppies and Alfalfa- flowers category

10/27/2013 7:49:31 AM

  9/18 Catch-All Fronds

9/20 Digital Darkroom To Everything There Is a Season

9/22 Flowers Autumn Daisy

9/24 Details & Macro Curlicue

9/25 Elements of Design Of Red and Gray

10/27/2013 9:46:28 AM

  Which ride to ride
Which ride to ride
so do I ride the carousel or do I ride the eiffel tower?
lots of EP's out today

10/27/2013 11:22:44 AM

9/29-Really Spooky Clouds

10/28/2013 4:30:09 AM

  I just put up the 9/29 pick and this one wasn't there, but when I went back to my gallery, there it was!??

9/26-Approaching Storm

10/28/2013 4:39:42 AM

  not you again
not you again
"not you agian" seems to be what this little one is saying as he looks at the camera
EP's still showing up

10/28/2013 4:57:32 AM

  I just noticed EFP's thru 9/30

10/28/2013 6:00:21 AM

  It must be over, I ended up with 5 EPs out of 8 entries for September... :-)

10/28/2013 6:50:50 AM

  I got a couple of more for Sept...seems like they pick some that I had considered deleting...I have NO IDEA what they may be looking for! lol

Good luck everybody!

jo ann c.

10/28/2013 7:14:29 AM

  I guess that means I'm skipped for the 28th, 29th and 30th.
JoAnn, I don't think they are looking at all.

10/28/2013 7:18:12 AM

  Wait a minute, Carolyn-they went back and picked one that was posted before 9/29 for me this morning-see my previous response.

10/28/2013 7:25:13 AM

  9/28 Catch-All One Came Tumbling Down

9/29 Elements of Design Diamonds

If they're done, I ended up with 10 out of 13.

10/28/2013 9:41:30 AM

  Out of 16 photos I have 3 EP's! Why bother I say! My last Sept. image is for 9/28 and I believe it is one of my best flower images...oh well what the hell! :-)

10/28/2013 9:55:34 AM

  I entered 16 and had 13 EP's out of those.

10/28/2013 2:39:41 PM

  5 of 14 for me.

10/28/2013 2:54:41 PM

  Well, I got a solid 50% EPs, probably because I only had two entries. It was a very dry month for me. I will be rooting for you all for September wins!

10/28/2013 3:11:39 PM

  16 for me, not too good! I entered every day, so just a hair over 50%.

10/28/2013 3:27:40 PM

  A lot of you are doing better than I am. 10 out of 29, about 30%.

10/28/2013 5:15:32 PM

  I'm all the way up to 7 and entered every day in September. If I happen to get one or two more, I might even make 3%. Big whoop!

10/28/2013 6:22:28 PM

  11 out of 22 for me, so 50% .

10/28/2013 6:25:51 PM

  14 out of 27. The worst part is, now looking at these 14 EPs, not even one looks as if it may end up in Silver/golden territory this month.


10/28/2013 11:19:41 PM

  18 out of 27 (66.6%)for the best month in a long time. However, I can relate to Usman in that I have no idea how any of them will do. Good luck everyone.

10/29/2013 10:19:28 AM

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  15 out of 30 for me, so 50% also.

10/29/2013 10:47:13 AM

  Just got one for October 3 - I'll let Jill know to start an October thread.

10/31/2013 8:10:58 AM

  There has been one but lot of folks haven't gone there but just kept going to this one, just change the last 2 numbers at top address to 32 and it will take you there...

jo ann c.

10/31/2013 8:22:03 AM

  Instead of 36019, change to 36032 for October link...

jo ann c.

10/31/2013 8:23:35 AM

  Out of my 50%, none of them went on to Staff Favorite

10/31/2013 8:39:45 AM

  I had a pretty good month. Seems better with fewer photos entered. 8 of 10 got EPs with 3 Staff Favs. However, what blows the theory of them taking into consideration the number of Favs out of the water is that I had 19 favs on one shot but it didn't even get a Staff Fav! Go figure. Rush job on their part I think.

10/31/2013 9:37:27 AM

  Congratulations to all the Winners for September.

11/1/2013 4:41:14 AM

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Jill Odice
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  64 .  Staff Favorites?
I got this email : New Round in Monthly Contest
Great news! We have added another round late in the BetterPhoto contest judging process. During this new round, Staff Favorites are chosen. Finalists will be more selective, and are pulled from this new round. Contestants will be notified if their contest entry is selected as a Staff Favorite. Then, if the image is later chosen as a finalist, the photographer will be emailed again.
So, does that mean that "Staff Favorites" will be chosen from images with EPs? Or is it possible that images which have not yet received an EP might get a Staff favorite? Lately I have been unchecking the box for an image to be seen if it seems to have been passed over for an EP. It would be great if this could be clarified a bit more as I am sure other members are wondering the same thing :-)

9/4/2013 7:50:24 AM

  I'm still totally confused about the relationship among EPs, the Staff Favorites and Finalists - and I didn't get the email, either (???). But then I also haven't had a Staff Fave since the initial launch and only a couple of EPs. So who knows?

9/5/2013 10:04:39 AM

  Monnie this email was on the SnapShot email that I received on Wenesday at the bottom of the page.

9/5/2013 10:57:01 AM

  Just checked all my messages for Wednesday including the deletes and spam folder, and I didn't get this one. Maybe you have to be signed up to get it???

9/5/2013 11:40:12 AM

  Yes, Monnie it is one you have to be signed up for.

9/5/2013 11:57:26 AM

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  Jill, I'm not sure if you noticed, but there's another thread in the forum on the Staff Favorites. Here's my interpretation for the relationship--ref Monnie's question.

EP round - first round of the contest

Staff Favorites - semi-finalist round. Please note I'm just saying "semi-finalist" based on what BP said in their earlier e-mails...that Finalists come from the Staff Favorites. Thus, they're kinda like semi-finalists. Last month, there were around 1200 SFs and 600 finalists (going off memory).

Another hypothetical. Assume 10,000 contest entries. Maybe 50% get an EP, or 5,000. Then, there's probably another elimination round..assume the number down to 2,500 now. Then, the Staff Favories round, and you're down to 1,200. Then Finalist, at 700.

You can't get a Staff Favorite unless the photo got EP. And you can't get a finalist if the photo didn't get a SF. They're just successive rounds in the contst.

9/5/2013 1:38:23 PM

  I jut read through all of these comments, and I'm wondering why my Staff Favorite isn't any where to be found. Confused? They sent me a Finalist notice and staff favorite for Aug. notice in an e-mail. Just wondering~

9/5/2013 2:09:01 PM

  I meant to say for July,lol sorry.

9/5/2013 2:10:51 PM

  Mine isn't showing up either. Still shows an EP.. I left it up to see if it would show up eventually, but it hasn't.
I only got 2 of them and the other one was a finalist, so it wouldn't apply to that one, since the finalist button replaces it. Maybe it's because I have an old style gallery??

9/5/2013 3:16:48 PM

Ken Smith
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  Millieanne, there's a glitch on the new-style gallery and this was reported on an earlier forum thread. Although I think I'll contact BP direct.

Try using the old style gallery temporarily; you should see them there. They look very similar to the finalist emblem. And in the new style gallery (the kind you have now), you should be able to click the thumbnail and the SF badge will appear below the photo. At least it does for mine.

9/5/2013 4:52:31 PM

Ken Smith
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  And to reiterate what Carolyn said...if the SF e-mail was for the same photo that got finalist, then the Finalist badge replaced it. I skimmed thru your comment and replied, then realized you probably only had the one image that was both a SF and finalist. But I did just send BP an e-mail asking if they could fix the glitch that prevents them from showing up on the new-style gallery.

9/5/2013 5:01:14 PM

  Ken, let us know what they tell you. I still do not have SF showing up on my gallery either.

9/5/2013 6:05:44 PM

  My SF was for the one finalist I had in July, so I didn't know why it's not showing. Thank's for all your responses folks, and perhaps it will in time show up~

9/5/2013 6:41:07 PM

Ken Smith
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  Millieanne, you'll never see the SF for your finalist. Your SF button was quickly replaced by the finalist button. It's similar to a gold medal (2nd or 1st place), replacing the finalist badge. I hope this makes sense.

9/5/2013 6:51:41 PM

  Hank you Ken. You should work for always seem to know what's going and explain things clearly :-) It is appreciated!

9/5/2013 7:40:25 PM

  Thank's Ken, why didn't I understand that~I think Carolyn mentioned that also~

9/5/2013 8:03:20 PM

  Thank's Ken, why didn't I understand that~I think Carolyn mentioned that also~

9/5/2013 8:03:48 PM

  Mine showed up today sometime. I just noticed it. Looks sort of nice.

9/6/2013 3:10:52 PM

  I'm seeing them now too. Thanks BP staff for fixing this!

9/6/2013 5:17:28 PM

Ken Smith
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  Here's Jay Wadley's e-mail to me, in response to my e-mail to BetterPHoto.Support

Jay Wadley wrote:

Hi Ken-

I appreciate the heads up. We have resolved this now and it appears under the new gallery style thumbnails.



9/6/2013 5:43:25 PM

  Glad to see the Staff Favorites are showing up in the new galleries now too. Thanks Jay for the fix.

9/7/2013 10:48:09 AM

  Has anyone here received a Staff Favorite since the "great news" was announced? I got 3 back then and nothing since (very few EPs, either, so maybe that's part of the answer). Just curious.

9/14/2013 8:07:46 AM

  None here for August yet. Had 5 last month. I don't look for them till after they get done EPs for August. Probably be right before they put out finalist. See what everyone else thinks.

9/14/2013 8:36:05 AM

  I've never got any, but I guess they are semi-finalists of sorts... so, maybe now it's still too early.

9/14/2013 11:52:23 AM

Ken Smith
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  If they are the semi-finalists, then BP will have to finish up all the August EPs first, before they start their next round. And we'd probably see them 5-7 days after that. I think they're only up to Aug 20th so far so it will still be awhile, I think.

9/14/2013 12:32:47 PM

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Virginia Kickle
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  65 .  Staff Favorite
I just received a couple of "Staff Favorite" designations on photos I entered in the monthly contest. Is this something new - something between EP and Finalist?

8/29/2013 5:32:27 AM

Lynn M. Whitt
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  I just got some to.

8/29/2013 5:39:43 AM

  I got a couple, too. The weird thing is when you look in your gallery, nothing shows them designated as such. I guess it's just a courtesy thing letting you know they liked it. I wonder if it's possible to get a 'finalist' on a picture that wasn't a 'staff favorite'. Guess we'll find out in a few days.

8/29/2013 5:45:32 AM

  The email you received for your "Staff Favorite" states this:


We at BetterPhoto THANK YOU for sharing your inspiring photo.

During the next few days, the judges select the finalist photos. If
your image is selected as a finalist, you will be emailed again.

Best wishes!"

8/29/2013 5:59:30 AM

  I sounds like this is something new. At least I have never seen this before. My Staff Favorites did show up in my gallery. Maybe yours just hadn't been updated yet, Tammy. Yes, it will be interesting to see if all Finalists are also Staff Favorites.

8/29/2013 6:02:57 AM

  Oops. I just looked at my gallery again and the Staff Favorite designations are gone, now. Very mysterious!

8/29/2013 6:05:53 AM

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  In the old days before Editor's Picks you'd enter the contest and you wouldn't hear anything unless your photo was selected as a Finalist. You'd never know which of your photos were in the running until the finalists were given out. Then a group of members happened upon a way to find the links to the Judging pools... there were several of them. If I recall they were Runner up, Quarter Finalist, Semi Finalist, Finalist, etc. In order for a photo to make it to the winner's circle it had to move through each of these pools first.

Eventually BP discovered that this virtual "ear to the door" eavesdropping was going on and locked the pools. Not long after that though, the Editor's First Picks came into play, and any photo that made it into the Runner Up pool(or whatever the first stage of advancement was called) received a EP badge - going retroactively back years.

I suspect this "Staff Favorite" is another Pool (possibly Quarter Finalist) being awarded publicly. Giving us something new to strive for, and another indicator of whether a certain photo is still in the running to be amongst the winners.

8/29/2013 6:08:39 AM

  Thanks, Muskoka Imagery....that's nice to know.

@ Virginia...yeah, I found it odd that it's not a designated thing. The badge only shows up when you view it through the e-mail informing you that you got one. I guess we will see if that takes all the others out of the running. Some of my personal favorites didn't get a 'staff favorite' so I hope they are still in the running! Prob not, though. lol

8/29/2013 7:02:00 AM

  Received 3 Staff Favorites...we'll see what happens...but posting your photos isn't about the contest! It's about sharing your work that you are proud of!

8/29/2013 7:04:06 AM

  You can see the badge under your image IN your member center as well... Go to Your Photos where you would enter an image that's been uploaded previously... Click on your image there and you"ll see the badge... At least I do.

8/29/2013 7:38:35 AM

  Based on the wording of the email, it sounds like "staff favorites" are not necessarily a stage of the contest, just an input to it. As others have said, time (how much time?) will tell.

8/29/2013 7:45:13 AM

  I got 5 of them and can see them if I click on the link in the email. But if I go look at my "Old style" gallery cannot see them.If I click on an image in my gallery I cannot see them, but if I click on the thumbnail in the discussions, there it is...Maybe they have not worked out the bugs yet. It's nice to get some recognition, but wish they could have mentioned this in the Snapshot I received yesterday, or sent an email explaining what they are ?
Thank you Muskoka, I remember when things were like that and while it was hard waiting, I liked it. Then someone emailed me about the codes on how to find out if you were in the running you said, then they came out with the EPs...confusing.It's the first day, so I will just wait and see what happens next I guess :-)

8/29/2013 8:52:07 AM

Ken Smith
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  It's possible these are the "semi-finalists"...reference Musoka's comment above. For example, assume 3000 EPs...then they whittle down to 2000, then to 1500 for semi-finalists. It's these images that get "Staff Favorite." And then they whittle this number down to the Finalists...and if the image gets a finalist button, it replaces the STaff Favorite button. But like all of you, we'll know more when they release finalists.

8/29/2013 9:20:25 AM

  I haven't received any of these... but, maybe they don't look at my photos much, any more (I got only 10 EPs in July... and so far, I've got 2 for August despite entering every day all months)... taking into account how confusing the whole system is nowadays, it's hard to tell if receiving such badges is an honor or a consolation prize.

8/29/2013 9:48:18 AM

  Yes, It is hard to know what to think. It would be nice if they would communicate information about changes.

8/29/2013 10:10:46 AM

  I like this new interim step (my guess is semi-finalist) and hope they keep it.

8/29/2013 11:21:44 AM

  It could be the same as a Judge's Comment... like when a judge would leave a comment about our photo in our gallery discussion thread. ???

Right now the number of staff favorites is about 300 more than the number of finalists in the past. So it looks like there is still some weeding out to do. Only time will tell.

As we all know... who can predict what is going to happen next at BetterPhoto. LOL

8/29/2013 11:29:56 AM

  Hi All,
Staff Favorites is brand-new - so new that it came too late for yesterday's SnapShot :)

Here's the scoop:

We added another round late in the contest judging process. During this new round, Staff Favorites are chosen. Finalists will be more selective, and are pulled from this new round.

Contestants will be notified if their contest entry is selected as a Staff Favorite. Then, if the image is later chosen as a finalist, the photographer will be emailed again.

Also, there have been questions about gallery display of the new Staff Faves badges. That should come soon (hopefully) ... meantime, it's being worked on.

Good luck, and enjoy the contest!

8/29/2013 11:33:35 AM

  Thanks, Kerry. You have answered my question! I like this idea of an interim round. It is always nice to get some recognition and this will allow more photos to get another level of recognition.

8/29/2013 11:41:31 AM

  Tammy (Robinson) Espino not only got a Staff Favorite, but she was on the Face page for BP just now. I am seeing these new badges under the full view of the images.

8/29/2013 12:03:47 PM

  Tammy (Robinson) Espino not only got a Staff Favorite, but she was on the Face page for BP just now. I am seeing these new badges under the full view of the images.

8/29/2013 12:03:47 PM

  Kathy, would you please share the link as I don't know what you mean?

8/29/2013 12:17:24 PM

  Thanks Kerry, good to know!

8/29/2013 12:32:08 PM

  Thanks Kerry for the information. I like the new step in the contest.

8/29/2013 12:49:43 PM

  Thanks Kerry for the update!!!

8/29/2013 12:52:04 PM

  Thanks all at BP, for this nice new feature!!

8/29/2013 1:18:59 PM

  I like the new feature as well. It adds to the fun of the contest.

8/29/2013 1:26:07 PM


8/29/2013 1:29:00 PM

  Thanks for clarifying things Kerry! Now how do we see the Finalists? The link is not working for July Finalists...

8/29/2013 5:39:43 PM

  This new addition is definitely a "Like" from me as it brings more interest to the contest, IMHO.

However, "Semi-Finalist" (which it actually is) would have sounded more professional to my ears than the much casual sounding "Staff Favorite" badge, just my 02 cents.


8/29/2013 8:40:37 PM

  Good point, Usman! I agree with you.

8/29/2013 8:54:19 PM

  Hi Everyone,
Thanks for the nice comments about the Staff Favorites ... this new round seems to be a winner :)

More good news! The link (finally!) works:

July contest finalists


8/30/2013 10:12:58 AM

  Thanks for the fixed link, Kerry!

I like extra feedback provided via the Staff Favorites round, too.

Is the development team aware that the Staff Favorite emblem still isn't showing up in the new-style galleries?

9/1/2013 7:53:41 AM

  I have the new style gallery and the staff favorite emblems are not showing up in my either. Hope they fix that.

9/1/2013 11:55:23 AM

  I use the new style gallery and the Staff Favorite emblems show up in mine. I don't know why they're not showing up in yours... that's a mystery.

Flaming Dahlia

Hope my link works,if not here is url:

9/1/2013 3:07:09 PM

  Martha & Tammy, the only thing I can figure out is that your Staff Favorites were replaced with Finalist emblems as my Himalayan Poppy was.

I had two Staff Favorites to begin with but one became a Finalist so now it has a new emblem.

I have two different emblems. One stayed the same (Flaming Dahlia) a Staff Favorite & the other was upgraded to a Finalist (Himalayan Poppy) So, it lost it's Staff Fav emblem and got a new Finalist emblem.

Himalayan Poppy

In case link doesn't work:

Hope that helps.


9/1/2013 3:28:13 PM

Ken Smith
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  Sharon, the Staff Favorites don't show up in my gallery either. See this link for an example:

The photos "Lonely Highway" and "Washington Colors" were Staff Favorites. I can click on the thumbnail to see the normal-sized photo, along with the Staff Favorite badge. It's just that they don't appear below the thumbnails. They do appear with the Classic layout.

Happy Labor Day to you too!

9/1/2013 3:34:06 PM

  WEIRD!!! :) I see what you mean.

I guess my Staff Favorite is better than your Staff Favorties. LOL


Yep, definitely another glitch... hope it's fixed soon.

9/1/2013 3:41:56 PM

Ken Smith
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  Ha! Good one, Sharon. It's a good thing you live a long ways from Omaha! :-)

My symptom is same as Tammy's. Seems like if you organize your photos into categories, it's fine, but otherwise, it's missing. Life will go on. :-)

9/1/2013 3:49:08 PM

  Ken, when you click on the first photo I see the new photo with the SF emblem but if I click on the name printed below I get this on all of your photos...

"Autumn in the Rockies"

Check it out. Do you see what I mean?

9/1/2013 3:51:03 PM

  LOL, Ken!!! Yes, I was going to say your galleries are all set up different than mine.

About the title... the same thing happens on Martha's & Tammy's photos. I think it goes to the first photo in your galleries.

Life will go on and it will probably be fixed shortly and all my typing will be for nothing. :)

So, I'm outta here & will TTYL.
Have a good one!

9/1/2013 4:00:48 PM

Ken Smith
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  Hey Sharon, I think I see what you're referring to. On the new Style Gallery, if you click "My Gallery", it goes to the first photo...versus the actual gallery.

I honestly don't know if it's always been like this? Or something that happened recently....

Thanks for taking a look. :-)

9/1/2013 4:25:07 PM


Nope, something different.

If I click on your profile picture in this forum it goes to your gallery page. (and the same with Martha and Tammy)

Now what I'm trying to explain.

For example: When I click on the photos you mentioned with SFs I get a new page with your photo which is the same photo (in which it should be) and it has your SF emblem.

Now go back to the first step, click on your profile pic in this forum and now click on the name of the photo printed underneath a photo (other than the first one in your gallery) It is in white print right below the photo. It takes you to the wrong photo... the first photo and today's entry in your gallery.

It happens on all the pictures accessed this way. Same in Martha's, Tammy's, Kara's and Muskoka's galleries.

This should not happen and only does so when I enter your galleries from the forum page and your profile pic.

Let me know if you see what I mean or not. Maybe Kerry will read this. It's not a big deal but it is a glitch.

I can't explain it any clearer so don't worry about it as it is no big deal.

9/1/2013 4:39:50 PM

Ken Smith
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  OK..I got it...finally! :-) On the new style galleries, the title of the photo is a link. Just as the thumbnail is a link. The thumbnail calls up the photo. But the photo's "Title" link always goes back to the first photo in the gallery.

Yes...a glitch. Good job, Detective Sharon!

9/1/2013 4:47:24 PM

  Roger, Ten Four, Big Buddy. Over and out!!!

9/1/2013 5:07:01 PM

  PS: You explained it so much better than me and with less words. Good job, Mr Smith!

9/1/2013 5:10:50 PM

  Thanks to you both for figuring this out. Hope now they fix it. Have a good Labor Day.

9/1/2013 6:06:47 PM

  My Staff Favorites are still not showing up in my gallery as of this morning. Not that there were all that many of them to show up.

9/2/2013 1:25:22 PM

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Martha R. Mazon
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  66 .  Image Replacement
Given some of the changes implemented recently at BP, namely the restriction on submitting the same image more than once, and the delayed EP awarding process, I'd like to request a process enhancement.

I would love to have the option of replacing an image without erasing the entry or the comments, up until the time at which it is judged for EP. Many times I notice some small problem with an image, days after upload, and want to make an enhancement. In the past I would upload a new copy of the image as another day's entry, but this is no longer allowed. Having the ability to replace an image would address my desire to make corrections after upload, while maintaining BP's judges' desire to avoid multiple uploads of essentially the same image.


8/23/2013 7:13:44 AM

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  Considering their motivations for why they did that, be it to save overall space on the server or to keep for too much redundancy, it might sound like something they could do at first.
However the logistics of simply uploading an image and keeping everything orderly may make that impossible.
Just to upload a single image requires each one to have connotations clearly separating it from all other images. Else you have similar titles, images from a batch, ending up all over.

8/23/2013 9:02:04 AM

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Michelle L. Frick
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  67 .  July 2013 Countdown Thread
Here we are at August 15th. I just completed a survey (another one) for BP earlier today, but hadn't realized that controversy over the hearts/favorites on images that can impact judging. If that's the case, I might be done entering soon. I am a very loyal BP person - have been on this site and learned from so many of the great teachers and people here since 2005. I'm sad to see some of the changes, but all in the name of progress, right?

Enough of my rant...let's pick our hopefuls from July and all keep our fingers crossed!

Helpful hints for attaching photos into Forum Threads:
1) Sign into BP completely (name + password.)
2) If you have NOT YET entered the Contest today, you can use the "Photo ID" to pull an existing image from your Member Center into your reply to this thread (avoiding a duplicate image upload.) Get the Photo ID# from your Member Center, come to back this thread, click Respond, enter the text of your reply, then choose "1" from the images-to-attach drop-down. Click Submit; at the next screen populate the "Photo ID" box at the right. Skip the other fields on that screen.
3) If you HAVE ALREADY entered the Contest today before replying to this thread, you can't use the Photo ID method today. You can either wait until tomorrow to reply here (before your new Contest entry!) or, upload a new copy of the particular image (from your PC) into this thread. This produces a duplicate image in your Member Center; however, you don't have to make that duplicate visible in your Gallery.
4) If you're uploading a duplicate, maybe title it "For Forum" so it stands out in your Member Center, for easier housecleaning later... This can help direct viewers to find the original image in your gallery, when they want to leave a comment. Likewise, if you want to add a comment to a photo seen here, try to tell if it is a duplicate upload. As a courtesy, try to find the original image in the member's gallery and leave your comment there instead of on the duplicate---that way, if the duplicate is deleted later, the comment history isn't lost.

Good luck everyone!!!

8/15/2013 3:42:04 PM

I love this particular picture of my eldest kitty Oreo.

Good luck to all!

8/16/2013 10:15:24 AM

  What I liked about Better Photo is equal chances of success regardless comments and favorites you get. That made them different and better. So I am quite dissapointed with their new decission. Thank you for mentioning this.
I don´t participate but I read every month your treads with joy. Good luck to everyone!

8/17/2013 4:12:09 PM

  Fog in the Valley
Fog in the Valley
iso 800, 500mm (Sigma 150-500), f/14 (av priority), 1/5000, handheld, cs5..... Yesterday morning at Mt Rainier National Park
I haven't played this before, but, since you're lonely..... :-)

I have several in July that I've got high hopes for, but, for lack of boring you, I'll go with this one.... :-)

8/17/2013 5:49:05 PM

  Ah, thank you Bob! I needed the company. And, that's a beautiful shot! I love it! Good luck!

8/17/2013 6:31:48 PM

  I entered already today.. But ill tag this now and try to remember for tomorrow..:)

8/17/2013 6:42:53 PM

  Reflections-July 15
Reflections-July 15
Reflections in a window in Arizona. Element of Design
My favorite for July is the reflection in the window. I put it in elements of design.

8/18/2013 6:00:40 AM

  Raspberry Inception #2
Raspberry Inception #2
From my backyard one day when I was looking for photo ops for a Green theme
Resub April 18, 2014
Category: Flowers
I forgot and entered for today - but nobody's interested, so I deleted LOL (I'll put it back in a minute, though). My personal favorite was skipped so I'll go with a runner-up - of which I have several. Strange, strange, to be thinking about this when over half the July entries have not even been looked at the first time by the BP staff.
Good luck to everyone - everything will happen in its time :)

8/18/2013 7:56:10 AM

Christopher J. Budny
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  July was a short month for me, a mix of new images, and a revisit through some archives to create new edits (or exceptionally late, first-time entries). But, I think my favorite for July still comes from Antelope Canyon - that place just knocked my socks off this past April, and I'm still editing/posting images from the 2 hour visit.
Best of luck to everyone!

8/18/2013 8:03:18 AM

  Yay - thank you all for joining in the thread. I was getting quite lonely.

This thread has a long history, and is something I have always looked forward to during the judging process. I've been hosting the thread for quite some time, and I will admit that I'm curious if anyone else wants a turn. Any takers???

8/18/2013 10:00:31 AM

  Just tagging on at this point. I have a couple of faves, but can't make up my mind right now. I'll put something in when I decide.

8/18/2013 10:03:08 AM

  Fire Eater
Fire Eater
Taken during the Ballon Glow at the Santa Paula Citrus Ballon Festival 2013. Canon 7D; Tamron 17-70mm @ 32mm; f/2.8; Shutter 1/250; ISO 640; Spot metering; Hand held. 9:00 pm.
Here's my favorite for last month.

8/19/2013 10:17:21 AM

Christopher J. Budny
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  OK, I'm losing it -- just revisited here, and realized I totally forgot to attach my image yesterday! Now I've entered for today, so I'll try to remember for tomorrow ;)

8/19/2013 11:13:56 AM

Christopher J. Budny
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  Slot Canyon Forms
Slot Canyon Forms
I have yet to decide whether I like the full-color views, or b/w or sepia views, inside the narrow slot canyons...!
I chose sepia/monotone to highlight the forms; I liked the straight lines of the left wall, reaching over towards the undulating right wall.
Here's the slot canyon image I chose as my July Fav.

8/20/2013 4:22:44 AM

  Splitting Headache
Splitting Headache
Good luck, everyone! I didn't enter many in July, but this one is a personal favorite though I doubt it will go far.

8/20/2013 3:30:22 PM

  Star of Bethlehem II
Star of Bethlehem II

Star of Bethlehem flower in green vase.
Adjustments in CS5.
Love all the terrific images in this thread!

July was a photo-fest for me. For the first time ever, I entered every day, which was hard since resubs are no longer allowed and I don't always have a lot of photo time. But I did it, whew! I don't think I'll being doing that again soon (although I wish I could)!

So anyway, here is my fave. Good luck to all!

8/22/2013 6:58:16 PM

F11, 1/200, 18-55mm vr nikkor @40mm, iso400, fill flash. Converted to Platinum effect in PSP.

Monthly Theme: July 24, 2013

Staff Favorite: July 2013

I only entered 9 in July (probably an all time low!), 7 with EPs that would be eligible to move forward. My personal fav didn't get an EP...bummer. But my picker is usually on the fritz anyway ;)

This was entered in the monthly theme which I can't even recall what it was! lol

8/24/2013 6:38:32 PM

  She's A Rebel
She's A Rebel
I guess this is my fave..

8/24/2013 6:43:26 PM

Christopher J. Budny
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  Looks like they could be done with July EP's - my 31st now has one, but didn't earlier.
Best of luck to everyone in the next round--hopefully we'll see results before month-end!

8/24/2013 6:51:44 PM

  tulips & blueberries
tulips & blueberries

Thanks for looking!

~Catch All~

This is my fav. from July...:) Good luck all!

8/25/2013 6:46:07 AM Photo Contest Finalist
Arches, Domes and a Minaret
Arches, Domes and a Minaret
Sheikh Zayed Grand Mosque in Abu Dhabi, UAE.

f/8, 1/125s, ISO200 @ 11mm Tokina.

Just to break some ice, here's my fave of the month.

Good luck to you all. It should not take much longer now, fingers crossed.


8/29/2013 12:55:28 AM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  Through The Bus Window
Through The Bus Window
Good luck all. Here is one of my favorites for July.

8/29/2013 4:03:24 AM

Muskoka Imagery
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  Something new I haven't seen before... a "Staff Favorite" badge.

8/29/2013 5:28:35 AM

  I just got emails for "Staff Favorites" and it says if you are selected as a finalist, you will be emailed again. This is new. I missed the memo on this change. Congrats to anyone who got these and fingers still crossed on finalists.

8/29/2013 5:34:15 AM

  I received a staff favorite badge today, something new!

staff favorite Afloat

8/29/2013 5:35:13 AM

Christopher J. Budny
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  Michelle... that made me smile! "Missed the memo" ;) HAHAHA!

Interesting new 'feature' in the contest... I wonder if Finalists only come from the Staff Favs pool now?
Or are they are going to be separate contest 'badges' entirely -- ie, you could have a Finalist that never made Staff Fav.
Time will tell (hopefully, very shortly!)

8/29/2013 5:46:14 AM

  I received 5 staff favorite emails... and there are gray badges too... Wonder if this is an early heads up on what images COULD be a finalist?

8/29/2013 5:47:41 AM

I received 2 staff faves for July.

8/29/2013 5:51:00 AM

  The interesting thing is, if I click directly from the email, I seethe new badge, but within my gallery, it still just shows as an Editor's Pick. So, I'm curious...time will tell.

8/29/2013 5:51:55 AM Photo Contest SECOND PLACE Winner
Created from the Inner Harbor buildings in Baltimore
Here's the second:

8/29/2013 5:52:27 AM

  Yeah, a strange turn of events. I received a couple and the badges show up with the links from the emails, but not in my gallery.

8/29/2013 5:57:51 AM

  Oh spellcheck, you got me again..."see the" not "seethe." Ugh. That's what I get for typing on my phone before caffeine.

8/29/2013 6:00:40 AM

  The badges are visible in your member center but not in the gallery...

8/29/2013 6:07:19 AM

  So, I guess it's a super secret badge. I feel a bit like James Bond!

8/29/2013 6:13:35 AM

  That is another new one! Got three "Staff Favorites" looking forward to learning what that means.

8/29/2013 6:21:14 AM

Brian M. Jones
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  I got 4 staff favorites, so why does it show up as an Editor Pick in my Gallery? I also notice that this may be just picks before the Finalist pick is handed out.. I say this because if you go to the recent Finalist pick page, it still shows June's Finalist Picks..

So I think this may be a semi-Finalist before the Finalist pick is handed out as Kara mentioned..

8/29/2013 6:48:04 AM

  Maybe "staff favorites" will end up being something like an honorable mention? Remains to be seen ... I got four of them ...

There's some interesting info over in the "Staff Favorites" thread as well.

8/29/2013 7:23:36 AM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  I got four judge favorites. Not one for what I thought might be a good chance. Interesting concept. I have to go read about it. I'll have to find the thread.

8/29/2013 7:30:48 AM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  I do think its a bummer we cant dee them in our galleries.

8/29/2013 8:18:52 AM

Christopher J. Budny
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  hehehe... no biggie to me---there GP, 1st Place, 2nd Place, Finalist, EP, POTD, and now this... far too many contest-related "badges" at this point!

8/29/2013 8:26:02 AM

  A dozen emails from BP this week and where is the info on this change? Nowhere, as usual. I give up.

8/29/2013 8:44:27 AM

  2 for me, including the one I posted above. Not complaining b/c it's always nice to get some recognition but it was a wth?

8/29/2013 10:37:56 AM Photo Contest Finalist
A Charmer
A Charmer
Finalists are out! Good luck in the next round.

8/29/2013 2:33:10 PM Photo Contest Finalist
Self Study
Self Study
seems like this year I have been standing on the edge..... so I wanted to do a picture showing how I was feeling. this was taken on top of the eiffel tower looking down
whooo hoooo.. got a finalist

8/29/2013 3:08:00 PM

  Big congrats to the finalists, and best of luck in the next round!

I was fortunate to get two:

Flowers: Attention Seeker

Elements of Design Curve Ball

And is it just me, or is the link to the Finalists page not working?

8/29/2013 3:24:49 PM

  It's not just you... all links take me to the bp homepage...:(

8/29/2013 3:30:36 PM

  Thanks, Kara ... I thought I was having serious user error issues!

8/29/2013 3:45:18 PM

  They have it blocked. I sent an email.

8/29/2013 3:56:27 PM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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Tranquil Moments
Tranquil Moments
Congrats to all the finalist.

Yea! I got one. :)

8/29/2013 4:09:46 PM Photo Contest Finalist
Wild Blue Yonder
Wild Blue Yonder
A few Muscari that still pop up in the spring. F5.6, 1/160, 70-300mm nikkor vr @170mm, iso100, natural light.

Flowers: July 2013

One of my SF's moved on to Finalist...yay!

Congrats to all and best of luck in the next round :)

8/29/2013 5:07:35 PM

Brian M. Jones
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  Why does BP have the July 2013 Finalist Picks page blocked? When I click on recent Finalist Picks, it bounces me to the BP home page.. Another mystery to be solved...

8/29/2013 5:32:29 PM

  Dear BetterPhoto,
Can we please see all the finalists now?
Pretty please? :)

8/29/2013 7:15:17 PM

  CONGRATZ to all the SFs and Finalists and good luck in the Golden round.

I was fortunate to have got 4 SFs and 2 Fs.


8/29/2013 8:52:29 PM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  I received a comment on my finalist from a judge. I am always appreviative when they do that But nevet know how ito thank them.

8/30/2013 7:54:34 AM

  The finalist link works now ...

8/30/2013 9:46:55 AM

  Hi Everyone,
As Peggy mentioned, the link now works:
July finalists


8/30/2013 10:11:12 AM

  Huge congrats to all of you who received finalists! I am always amazed and impressed with your skill and creativity.

8/30/2013 10:49:23 AM

  Congrats, ya'all!

8/30/2013 11:43:08 AM

  Winners are out! Congrats to all!!

8/30/2013 11:44:08 AM

  Congratulations to Melissa and Jackie whose personal favorites made it all the way to the winners' circle :) And of course to everyone else who snagged one - however hoped for or unexpected it may be.

8/30/2013 11:47:43 AM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  Thanks Nikki and Peggy. Congrats to Melissa and all of the winners.

8/30/2013 12:02:01 PM

  Thanks Nikki & Jackie. Congrats to all the winners! Keep up the great work! And to everyone are all winners in my book. I'm looking forward to what the next months will bring. God Bless! ♥

8/30/2013 4:53:00 PM

  Congratulations to all the winners! Can't wait till I get a chance to browse them all :)

8/31/2013 3:49:51 AM

Christopher J. Budny
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  Hi fellow Countdown Followers!
Michelle asked earlier in the thread, above, if anyone would like to step in as "starter" of this monthly thread---she's held the job for quite awhile now. (I once held the job back in the day; it rotates owners/starters from time to time.)

If anyone would like to take on the task of starting/launching this thread every month (around the 15th or so) please let Michelle know! She's looking to take a little (well-deserved) break from it and join us "Former Hosts" in the "Former Hosts Lounge" for a cosmo and chocolates. ;)

8/31/2013 5:18:13 AM

  CONGRATZ to all the Winners of July Contest... a wonderful set of inspiring images, as always.


9/3/2013 10:35:49 PM

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Kay Beausoleil
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  68 .  Contest and Favorite Votes
For those who haven't noticed, a change announced at . Discussion going on at the end of the Changes to BP Website thread.

8/13/2013 3:14:49 PM

  I guess there are so so so many great photos its hard for the judges to consider every single great and horrible photo (and there are many). So I can see how that helps.

12/21/2013 8:59:48 AM

  I wished this wasn't true. I don't get a lot of favorites because I guess I don't give a lot of favorites, which doesn't mean I don't love the image and I try to tell them in the responses. Some people have so many friends and followers that give favorites. I sure hate to see a judge pick someone just because they have lots of friends that put them as a favorite. I don't really think they do that...

12/21/2013 3:08:21 PM

Angela Morgan
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  Hey guys I also want to take a part in competition, can you guys tell me how I can take a part in this photo competition.
here is my website's link Wedding Albums

12/24/2013 7:06:39 AM

Ken Smith
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  Angela, if you want to participate in the BP contest, just go to the "Contest" tab on the site ( for info. You can enter one photo a day and there are ten photo categories. It doesn't cost any money.

BP usually announces "Finalists" at the end of the following month; e.g., December's finalists will probably be announced in late January. And then they announce the winners shortly thereafter. There are 111 winning photos. All of this info is on the Contest tab.

12/24/2013 9:00:53 AM

Angela Morgan
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  Thank you very much ken, see you in contest now..

12/25/2013 3:25:55 AM

  I favorite pictures that I love or that inspire me! I do it so I can easily find them to look at again. I also happen to prefer the older style gallery and the favs do not show up on that the way they do in the newer version.

12/25/2013 1:50:04 PM

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Cheri McEachin
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  69 .  August EFP'S Photo Contest Finalist
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Canon EOS 7D Digit...
Good luck everyone this month...yay!!

8/8/2013 7:41:02 AM


8/8/2013 8:06:23 AM

  I'm on Aug Forum now, thanks where is everybody? :-)

jo ann c.

8/8/2013 8:33:57 AM

  Just checking in. My Aug 1 entry was skipped. Got an EP for Aug 2.

8/8/2013 8:35:27 AM

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8/8/2013 8:37:36 AM

  Just tagging. EFP's for 8/1 & 8/2.

8/8/2013 8:45:23 AM

  My first Aug entry wasn't until the 6th or 7th so there will be a slight wait (July wasn't until the 24th - that's going to be a lonnnnnnnnnngggg wait!)

8/8/2013 8:50:44 AM

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8/8/2013 12:02:40 PM

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Rest Stop
Rest Stop
8/1 Details and Macro

8/2 Flowers
Raindrops and Daisies

8/8/2013 1:03:29 PM

  Lily Portrait
Lily Portrait

The alstroemeria flower, also known as Peruvian lily or lily of the Incas.
Minor adjustments in CS5
8/2 Flowers

8/8/2013 1:50:37 PM

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  8/1 Sailing At Sunset
Travel & Place

8/8/2013 2:18:34 PM

  8/2 Curves and Clouds in EOD :-)

8/9/2013 12:11:05 AM

  8-1 Sunny Cactus Flower and 8-2 Blue Tiger Butterfly.

I've been following these threads the last several months - thought it was time to start participating. :)

8/9/2013 5:01:39 AM

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  Pink Raindrops
Pink Raindrops
8/3 Flowers

8/9/2013 11:58:27 AM

  I'm more fed up than ever! I've only got one for July- zip, zero, nada for August!

8/9/2013 11:59:07 AM

  Nancy Marie, so far they only seem to have judged as far as 7/9 and the next set at 8/02. Maybe, there is still hope for you.

8/9/2013 12:42:32 PM

  August 3, skipped.

August 4, people, EP


8/9/2013 1:25:19 PM

  Got one August 1, August 2 and 3 skipped, just got one for August 4.

As for July, I'm still stalled at the 9th - the 10th is one I expect to be skipped LOL

8/9/2013 3:16:00 PM

  Birds Eye View
Digital Darkroom

Still only two for the first part of July!

8/9/2013 3:47:05 PM

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8/4 Flowers

8/9/2013 4:46:48 PM

  Sorry - meant to post the link but forgot what I was doing in the middle of posting :(
August 4 - Travel and Place

Behind the Church

8/9/2013 5:37:16 PM

  Tag! August for me looks like:

8/1 Silver Spotted Skipper - Animals
8/2 Rise and Shine - Flowers
8/3 Skipped
8/4 The Heart of It - Flowers

I guess my 8/5 may have been skipped...

8/9/2013 5:38:07 PM

  Waves of Pink
Waves of Pink

Close up of pink rose petals
Minor adjustments in CS5
8/4 Details & Macro

8/9/2013 6:41:29 PM

  Been there, done that, Nikki! :-)

8/9/2013 6:50:51 PM

  8-3 Sparkly Emerald Green, nothing for 8-4 or 8-5.

8/9/2013 6:55:46 PM

  8/1..Animals..Hey! You're Upside Down!
8/5..Landscape..Incredible Scary Light

Well, so much for all the "worthy" images getting EPs. I think I had a couple "worthy" ones in that skipped batch.

8/9/2013 7:07:52 PM


8/10/2013 2:36:08 AM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  Carolyn you always have worthy images. :) Don't fret to much. I am doing horrible for August. Although I haven't entered every day I still have lots that apparently BP doesn't care for. I have done well for July. So that helps. Only 1 which was for Aug 1 has gotten an EP.

8/11/2013 8:53:10 AM

  Thanks, Jackie. It just seems sort of wrong, after Jim comes on a while back and said all worthy images will get EPs..then nothing happens to most of our images. So I guess we have to interpret that to mean they aren't worthy. It seems to me it's right back to what it was before all this "new" stuff took place with the old throwing darts at the page method of picking EPs. Oh well, I guess nobody cares what I think anyway, so I'll shut up for the time being.

8/11/2013 9:23:55 AM

  8/5 Shooting Star - Flowers

8/11/2013 12:12:00 PM

  8/6 Baby Blues - Animals

8/12/2013 3:47:17 PM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  So I am doing horribly this month. Perhaps my photos are poor this month. I have gone with a few creative plays. Also wondering if I am hurting myself by watermaking my images. I started doing it on facebook and to save time you my same image.

8/13/2013 5:28:48 PM

  Question about sizing and resolution. Some constant winners told me that they enter larger rez and even in tif. I'm wondering what everyone else does.

8/13/2013 5:46:11 PM

Ken Smith
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  Kathy, I always resize to 800 pixels, TIF. BP's process will crunch larger-sized images down to 800 on long side. A long time ago, it seemed their resize process softened display image. So, many of us took control by resizing before upload. I also sharpen after resizing to 800.

8/13/2013 6:51:10 PM

  Thanks, Ken. I used always to do 800 but in Jpg. Maybe, it's time to go back to doing that. How about the rez and physical size?

8/13/2013 6:58:51 PM

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  I just use Photoshop's Resize function. I don't adjust resolution a bit. Physical size is 800 pixels. I don't worry about the "document size" part. When I resize to 800 pixels, the document size adjusts automatically usually to 3.3 x 2.2 inches or something like that.

I have a separate folder for BP entries. They are all resized to 800 pixels, TIF, sharpened. And the parent full-res images are in different folders. I've also done side-by-side comparisons on BP with JPG and TIF, and in all honesty, I can't tell a difference. It's just that I got in a habit years ago of saving in TIF, that I kept it doing it that way.

8/13/2013 7:19:30 PM

  Aha! There's what was throwing me off. A long time ago, somebody said asked why my image were so small (well, because resizing to a small pixel size, the physical size made it so.) It sounded like that was undesirable. Thanks again for your help, Ken.

8/13/2013 7:38:44 PM

  Kathy, I have also been doing the same as what Ken does since he enlightened me a few years ago. And about the same time I also started processing most of my images in the RAW format.


8/13/2013 8:18:22 PM

  I do mine in RAW also. After two attempts with TIFs, I finally returned to jpgs, which worked.

8/13/2013 10:15:27 PM

  Chevy Cobra

8/14/2013 9:55:37 AM

  I thought I'd check with you on the recent BP email that says the photo contest will take into account the number of favourites a photo receives.

This indicates a possible shift to incorporating voting as per 500px with its affections, views, likes, favourites, and pulse...

EPs in Aug so far

8/2 - The Light Within
8/5 - About to Speak

8/14/2013 1:18:54 PM

  That email never came to my Yahoo inbox. Did everyone else get it?

8/14/2013 5:03:29 PM


8/14/2013 5:14:47 PM

  8/7..Flowers..Tiny Cutie And Bud

8/14/2013 7:08:20 PM

  Well, seeing as it looks as though my Aug 6 entry was skipped, I'll wait for the one on the 13th.

And......... I'll share some off-site good news. Out of 12 Storyboards I entered in our County Fair, 3 got Blue Ribbons; 3 more got Reds; and the next 3 received Whites. My Aug 13 is part of one of the Blue Ribbon boards.

The best thing of all is that one of my Blue Ribbon entries (the Country Scene - barns) took Best of Show.

I don't care what others say; getting validation from Judges does go far to make you feel good about yourself.

8/14/2013 7:54:12 PM

  Fannnnntastic, Kathy! Huge congrats!!

8/14/2013 7:56:09 PM

  Congratulations, Kathy!

8/15/2013 4:51:47 AM

Finally 8/6: Rocks Come In All Sizes

8/15/2013 4:56:52 AM

  Kathy, congratulations on your big awards sweep! Awesome :)

8/15/2013 5:16:46 AM

  August 7, Nature and Landscapes

Glencar Falls

8/15/2013 5:58:26 AM

  Woot Woot, Kathy.... :-)

8/15/2013 6:06:20 AM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  Sorry to ask this again but not sure if anyone saw it.

I just started watermarking so that I can use the same image on face book. Since doing it I am noticing a huge difference between last month where I got EP on every image so far except 2 and this month I only received 1 on the first day. I am hurting my chances of RP by water making my images?

8/17/2013 5:34:28 AM

  That is such an interesting question, Jackie. I've always watermarked by images uploaded to BP as I am not aware of BP providing any watermarking. If someone is aware, it would be great to know how to access it.

EPs have been consistent until 'the change-over', so it would appear watermarking had no significance.

There are images that have large-sized watermarks, and it might be possible for larger ones to impact the image. Maybe someone can comment on this.


8/17/2013 5:57:58 AM

  BP does have a way to watermark images on upload - I use it all the time. I use the alternate uploaded and at one point in the process I have the chance to click a box and have my image watermarked. It's white, almost transparent, lower right, quite discrete. I don't think watermarks hurt an image unless, as Marilyn says, they are large or obtrusively placed. Then they kind of ruin the viewing experience IMO

8/17/2013 6:35:42 AM

  A belated congrats Kathy! You must have been so thrilled. It's wonderful to receive a ribbon, but to get as many as you did is spectacular!

8/17/2013 10:40:44 AM

  Thank you to everyone who left the kind words here and on FB. It means a lot when fellow members take the time to leave comments in response to good (or sad) news or in admiration of a winning image.

I only wish those who are the recipients of those comments or praise would take the time to acknowledge the time people to do so. Sadly, that does not include the members who will read this and who always respond to comments. I've decided not to bother with the winners who seem to be "Hit and Runs". Is that nasty of me?

8/17/2013 1:45:12 PM

  Kathy, why do you keep looking like Tammy? :-) I'm one of the ones who hasn't commented yet, I wanted to write you personally but haven't had a chance yet! :-( I've learned not to expect anything from anyone because the disappointment can be devastating! I expect nothing but when something does happen what a joy!

I am thrilled for your many wins and proud that you do go out and work your photography in competitions like this! I just do have the confidence to do that!

8/17/2013 2:34:23 PM

  Hey, I get how busy everyone is - and how we can't comment on every image, but if people enter images and win consistently - it would be nice if they acknowledged (even in a group-based thank you), the comments made on their behalf....

Trust me, this concern is NOT directed at the people who add to these monthly thread from Cheri and others.

8/17/2013 3:15:55 PM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  congratulations Kathy. sounds like a wonderful Fair competition for you. :)

8/17/2013 3:23:38 PM

  Congratulations, Kathy, what a fantastic honor!!

Regarding your other question, if I understand it correctly, I'm often an offender, in that I rarely go back to my own thread to say "thank you" for the kind comments left. It's not that they aren't appreciated; they very much are! I just don't think many members have the time to go back to the threads on which they comment, to see the appreciative replies. Instead, I *always* try to leave a reciprocal comment on an image by the person who left a comment on mine. I feel that taking the time to view and comment on that person's image is a more valuable form of thanks, for most people. Maybe I'm wrong about that.

8/18/2013 9:11:47 AM

  Along The Banks-Aug 7th.

8/18/2013 1:35:48 PM

  I really wasn't aiming my comment at the regular, and honestly don't think that it's necessary to say Thank You to each and every individual. But, after a week - it wouldn't hurt to return just to acknowledge everyone in general.

I do get an email notice every time someone adds to the thread and go to check it out. Occasionally, I will ask a question (like what lens was used or where the picture was taken.) It means a lot to receive an answer (even if it's a week or a month later.)

8/18/2013 2:44:06 PM

  If someone asks me a specific question like that, I always respond in a private email. If I think the information is of general interest and it's early (like I only have one or two comments), I may respond in the thread, too, but I also send the person who asked the question the answer privately. I never look back on threads I've commented on, and I seldom go to threads on my own images to thank commenters, individually or in general, because I imagine most folks are like me and don't come back to read the thank you. I know some people thank each and every commenter in the thread, but I'm not among them. To be honest, when I joined I used to go to the Friendly Praise section and look at images there. Then I noticed that every time a comment was posted, the image popped to the top and the # of replies increased. It looked to me as if replying Thank You to every commenter might be perceived as an attempt to keep my image in the forefront of that section, so I decided not to do it.
I do try to get to the galleries of people who comment on mine and comment on something I like, but I know I don't do that often enough. Most of my time here is spent interacting in the FFFP Club (which anyone who is interested in critiquing or having images critiqued is welcome to join) or in going to Recent Entries, opening full, and browsing, stopping to comment those that really catch my eye whether they belong to someone I know or not.
I didn't take your comments personally, Kathy, but I do want to suggest that there are many ways to give back and be a positive, contributing member of the site.

8/18/2013 3:03:04 PM

  I agree with what Nikki said. I rarely, if ever go back to my own images, or anybody else's for the second time. If somebody asks something specific, I email them personally.
Sorry I'm not commenting, my hands hurt, and the situation at home isn't going to get better, so I'm pretty well done commenting. I do manage to say something in these QnA's every so often, and hope that it gets to more people that way.

8/18/2013 3:22:18 PM

  8/8 Capt Jacks MT category :-)

8/18/2013 9:52:19 PM

  Responding to the monthly forums like this one or to anyone's images in any manner is just a different way of saying Thanks. Also, knowing members have physical of life issues is a majorly good reason to cut back on responding.

I'll concede the point. Entering the contest does not make you part of a community and if we never hear of you again it shouldn't matter.

8/18/2013 10:41:21 PM

  8/8..Macro..Ants On Cactus

8/19/2013 2:40:07 AM

  All Are Welcome

I wish they would finish July!

8/19/2013 6:11:56 AM

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8/8 Catch All

8/19/2013 7:15:49 AM

8/7 no entry
8/8 Maryland Girl II - Flowers

8/20/2013 5:58:18 AM

  tagging--- haven't entered anything in August at this time.

8/21/2013 6:23:19 AM

  Have they stopped giving EFP? I looked at several photos back to the 14th and did not find a one on several really nice shots.

8/21/2013 8:19:18 AM

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  Sharon, the last EP I've seen from August, was from the 8th. Maybe they're doing a full-court press on July now. I have seen thru the 15th, for July.

8/21/2013 3:43:50 PM

  Rough Metal on Brick
Rough Metal on Brick
My first August EFP

8/22/2013 9:06:57 AM

  @Susan I hope to see some of your photos at the Maryland State Fair. ;)

8/22/2013 9:11:34 AM

  Well've just given me an idea! I think I will look into it, thanks!

8/22/2013 10:48:46 AM

  Viveca V posted this in the May EFP thread, so I'm reposting it here and giving her this link...

on 8/22/2013 12:14:39 PM I have written three times about the issue of no Editors Picks, even on my great submissions that have won International prizes. The always give me the same silly answer, ' we are still going thru photos..' But the truth is I have not had a EP for over three months. I am not renewing my Basic Web site which ends in a few days. If things do not change I will create a new web site other than my Deluxe with BP. Sincerely, V. Venegas

8/22/2013 2:07:58 PM

Viveca Venegas
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  Thank you Kathy. Not one of my submissions from June, July or August have gotten an EP. Having been a judge myself many times before at local and USA photo contests, I never submit a photo that would not deserve an EP. is ok if I do not get in some, but all of my submissions? something is wrong. My Basic expires this august 28 and I not renewing. Deluxe expires on january 2014, I will stay only if I get an accurate answer.

8/22/2013 2:42:10 PM

  Viveca, how many have you submitted? I took a look at your gallery and your photos are certainly "worthy" in my opinion. All I know is that things have changed. I used to get EP on just about every photo I entered. I was under the impression that if a photo was well composed, well exposed and well focused then it was "worthy". Evidently this is no longer enough. I get EP every so often but nothing like I used to get. You are not alone. I have enjoyed the fellowship of other photographers but the reason I joined BP was the contest. I can post my photos other placed and I do just that. These other places have photographers who are friendly and helpful as well but no contest. I am still entering but like everyone else who has been here for a while, I am frustrated and unhappy about the way things are going. Evidently no one at BP is even considering how the old timers feel. By the way, congratulations, Kathy, on the excellent showing at the state fair.

8/22/2013 4:49:11 PM

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  Viveca, I saw your gallery. You have lots of gold and silver medals. Doesn't make sense you wouldn't get any EPs for June, July, and August. Granted, they have a long ways to go for finalizing July and August; not even half way done.

How many photos did you submit?

8/22/2013 4:50:39 PM

  @Susan I think you should. Submission for this year is already complete. However, keep an eye out on the Maryland State Fair website around June/July of next year. They should have something posted by then for registration.

8/22/2013 5:40:22 PM

  Viveca is a GP winner, so obviously she has EP worthy stuff. It's just that they are right back to the old dart tossing method of EP handouts.

8/22/2013 6:12:05 PM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  Viveca it makes no sense. I'm actually mad I came back. I missed the people here but its really not worth the lack of fun it seems this contest now brings me. Its crazy they started August and they are not done with July apparently. I'm just not enjoying this anymore. Viveca your photos rock. Love them all.

8/22/2013 7:08:59 PM

  Thanks for the response, Ken! I thought maybe they were just not giving them out anymore. I wouldn't mind one way or the other. Just curious what's going on.

8/23/2013 8:21:40 AM

  Journey Home
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An Amish Family's Journey Home on the back roads of Lancaster County, PA

8/26/2013 9:26:10 AM

  Just noticed EFP's for August 10th & 11th.

8/28/2013 4:55:53 AM

  EP for the 2nd and 13th...skipped 3rd, 6th, 10th....... back to reality compared to July.... :-(

8/28/2013 6:15:26 AM

8/9 Monthy Theme (Self Portrait)

8/11 Details & Macro

(trying to attach two photos this time ... hope it works)

8/28/2013 10:11:34 AM

  8/9 skipped
8/10 Maryland Girl I - Flowers

8/28/2013 10:14:45 AM

  8/9 Monthy Theme (Self Portrait) Fountain of Age

8/11 Details & Macro Inner Being

8/28/2013 10:16:41 AM

  Oops, sorry for the double post. Changed my mind on how to do it, and I didn't think the first one "took".

8/28/2013 10:18:37 AM

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  Beautiful Ending
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8/10 Nature and Landscapes

8/11 Details and Macro

8/28/2013 10:56:56 AM

  Nothing since the 8th.

8/28/2013 11:31:12 AM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  8/7 Visiting Norway
Nature & Landscape

8/8 & 8/9 no entry

8/10 no EP

8/11 in the Woods of SC
Nature & landscape

No entry 8/12-8/13

8/28/2013 11:56:24 AM

  Not having a good month so far. I think I only have a couple of EP's. early in the month. Oh well.... here we go again. However, congratulations to those of you who are doing well.

8/28/2013 5:17:31 PM

  8/9, 8/10. 8/11 skipped
8/12 Preferred Seating T & P

8/29/2013 9:54:44 PM

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  Day's End
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8/13 Nature and Landscapes

8/30/2013 8:27:46 AM

  I can't view the finalist??? When I go to open finalist, it only show the June finali8st, anybody else having this problem??

Maybe they have just dismissed me! :-(

jo ann c.

8/30/2013 8:41:08 AM

  They blocked the page. I sent a couple emails yesterday and no action yet.

8/30/2013 8:47:01 AM

  What the hey?

8/30/2013 9:14:23 AM

  The finalist link works now ...

8/30/2013 9:45:51 AM

  Was making comments on the winners and then started making them on the finalist...has anyone noticed, those receiving recognition has had lessons? I've had 2 lessons with BP and several with others...hmmm...I didn't get any this month! :-(

jo annn c.

8/30/2013 5:17:12 PM

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  Windows and More
Windows and More
8/14 Elements of Design

8/31/2013 8:06:17 AM

8/14-Rugged Sierras

9/1/2013 7:26:24 AM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  8/14 Concert In The Park

9/1/2013 8:13:17 AM

  August 14, Flowers
Red Clover

9/1/2013 10:11:34 PM

  I just got an EP for 1st of Septmeber (in Catch-All).

9/2/2013 2:44:26 AM

  I got one for 9/1 also..NOTHING since the 8th in August. Whoever is doing August is really hating me.

9/2/2013 2:53:00 AM

  Got one for Sept 1st too. Last EPs in August was the 14th.

9/2/2013 4:06:21 AM

  I've only received 3 EPs for August so far: for 3rd, 7th and 13th... and I submitted a photo every day. I don't like this at all.

9/2/2013 6:29:32 AM

  I'm not liking it either, Tiia. I know some of mine deserve better than they got.

9/2/2013 6:47:42 AM

8/23-Storms Coming

9/3/2013 5:48:54 AM

  Oops! I uploaded the storms photo, but I didn't enter it until 9/01!

9/3/2013 5:58:02 AM

  Don't think we have a September link yet, so I'll report this here.

September 1, skip
September 2, skip
September 3, EP People

Deep Water

9/4/2013 9:37:32 AM

  Here's a new August one for me.

August 16
Walking on Sunshine

I'll ask Cheri for a September discussion.

9/4/2013 10:35:57 AM


9/5/2013 12:15:14 PM

  I came across this link, a couple of days ago. In case anyone is interested.

Best of luck to all of you!!


9/6/2013 2:17:14 AM

  I realize that the EFP's have become fewer and further between, and people are upset, but, is it just me or have they skipped almost the entire month of Aug. or is it just my entries.....again? just curious.....


9/7/2013 8:39:19 PM

  Nothing since the 16th of August for me, Jeana - but I did get one for September 6th today so three skips and three EP's in September.

9/7/2013 8:48:14 PM

  Hi Jeanna, They are just way behind on August... last post for an EFP was for the 16th and they have started Sept already. Two months going at once.. so confusing and imho stupid. So, it's not just you... it's all of us.

9/7/2013 8:48:19 PM

Brian M. Jones
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  Jeanna, they would rather confuse us and do 2 months at the same time instead of finishing the month that has already passed.. Wait that would be the smart thing to do.. It is nice that BP is keeping us up to date on the 2 month at a time EP selection or the lack of EP selection these days.. These days I am not even sure what the hell to enter anymore.. I am nearing the end of my subscription..

9/7/2013 10:32:34 PM

  I have received EP's for only 5 for August...

1.Self Portrait
2.Fall is just around the corner
3.Drip, drip, drip (reminds me of the speed of getting these out :-)
4.Sunflower Montage
5.Planet in Motion

jo ann c.

9/8/2013 11:01:05 AM

Viveca Venegas
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  No Ep for me for August no sept. I have submitted about 8 photos.

9/8/2013 11:24:52 AM

  I've got only 3 EPs for August (the last of them for 13th but already 4 for September (both months, I submitted every day)... my photos most certainly haven't changed so much... Before spring, I used to get an EP almost every day, but then their number went down a lot...

9/8/2013 11:50:36 AM

  Same for me, Tiia, except 4 August and 3 September..I hate this so much. I don't think they care how much we hate it, though. I guess they are hoping we will give up and move on.

9/8/2013 12:05:06 PM

  skipped 8/14-8/16
8/17 Mojave Desert

9/8/2013 10:52:19 PM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  8/18 D-Day Reinactment

9/9/2013 12:37:37 PM

  They finally judged 8/17. Oh, well - screwed again.

9/9/2013 1:17:23 PM

  Received 2 more for August, and now one for September 9-7 - Attention Getter!

jo ann c.

9/9/2013 1:20:17 PM

  Well, here's the way it's going for me:

August 14 through 18 skip.
September 7 skip

August 19, Nature and Landscapes EP

One Day at the Pond

9/9/2013 1:29:44 PM

  I am freaking out right now! My gallery is showing finalists on Aug. pics and on Sept. picks and some finalists on portraits of family that are just in my gallery...what the heck is going on?

9/9/2013 1:48:26 PM

  8/18.. EOD.. Wind Catchers.
I can't believe they would give this an EP and skip over all my WAY BETTER stuff. I'm just beyond disgusted.

9/9/2013 2:03:56 PM

I was just curious.....
It's terribly frusterating for everyone I know! My last EP, of 5 was on the 17th....I would think that doing two months at once would be really time comsuming for the judges, but hey, I guess it's their schedule, not mine....just wish things was back to the way it used to be!!! My subscription is due to expire soon as well....certainly serious thoughts of NOT renewing!

9/9/2013 2:08:33 PM


Hmmmm.........already 6 EP's for the month of September.....skipped my entries on the 5th & 6th ......

9/9/2013 2:13:13 PM

Brian M. Jones
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  Jeanna, they would rather confuse us and do 2 months at the same time instead of finishing the month that has already passed.. Wait that would be the smart thing to do.. It is nice that BP is keeping us up to date on the 2 month at a time EP selection or the lack of EP selection these days..

It is funny, but just to prove a point and a theory, I submitted new images that were Gold winners in the same category as in the past.. To my amazement NONE of them even get an EP.. That is messed up as hell.. A Gold winner last year and not even an EP this year..

These days I am not even sure what the hell to enter anymore.. I am nearing the end of my subscription and it is time maybe to move on..

9/9/2013 3:08:29 PM

Ken Smith
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  Brian, don't forget...BP said that we could no longer resubmit previous contest entries. That's probably why your resubmitted gold medal didn't get an EP...they remembered it. Just submit photos you like..and enjoy. :-)

9/9/2013 5:29:12 PM

  Hey Ken, I wonder if you resubmit in a different category is o.k.??

jo ann c.

9/9/2013 6:00:08 PM

  Jo Ann, I emailed them and asked if submitting in a another category is okay. Nope. :(

9/9/2013 6:31:56 PM

  You also can't crop it differently and re-enter, or you can't use a different filter and re-enter. Apparently, you can learn from your mistakes, but you can't do anything to prove it.

9/9/2013 6:38:19 PM

Ken Smith
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  With the tens of thousands..hundreds of thousands of photos on the site, it would be virtually impossible to know if a "new' photo wasn't submitted into the contest, especially for photos originally submitted 5 years ago. In my humble opinion. Now a gold medal or finalists; that might be more memorable.

BP did say you could enter the same photo, if altered "drastically." You'll have to interpret "drastically." My recommendation...recrop it...maybe play around with different DD effects like HDR, or whatever...and enter it new. Worst case, it doesn't get an EP. Life will go on..

9/9/2013 7:01:20 PM

  They specifically mentioned not cropping and reentering (95% sure I remember that one, because that often is my problem - too "big" a scene, and it struck a chord.)

9/9/2013 7:05:28 PM

  I guess I missed it when it was said about not reentering an image....Oh well.....I think that's alittle silly, as Kathy said, can't prove to them that perhaps we've learned from mistakes by re-submitting an image whether it got an EP or not. I think you should be able to, even with slight adjustments, lighting, noise removal, sharpness that sort of thing.....seems a tad picky to me, but then again....Who Am I? The fun is really starting to fade for me! It seems to me that they tend to lean towards the same types of images anyway, with the same editing styles. Photograhpy to me is much more than that! It's an Art, just like a painting! Everyone's view on the same subject is seen differently, and should have that view taken into consideration. If you're into selling images, someone out there Will like your work whether it has a Finalist or Winner award from BP or not, because ultimately, photography has become a work of art! Why do you think so many filter styles are used in digital? In my Drs office, every thing hanging on their walls in the waiting room began as a Photo....using photoshop and filters and such, each one looks like a painting! They didn't choose those particular images based on correct lighting, exposure etc....they chose them on the style of ART the images turned out to be. I stopped displaying EP's in my gallery, what's the point? I only keep track for myself, to know which, if any, might move past the EP stage....HERE'S A THOUGHT! With everyone seeming to be up in arms about which catagory to enter in, with the thought of not being able to re-enter the same image twice, Get Rid Of Catagories all together! Might simplify alot for the one entering and for the judges. Just look at the photo and not try to determine if it "fits" in a certain catagory or not. Several images could fit in many catagories, could be a reason why we want to re enter....I'm rambling on so I'm going to shut up now!!! LoL! :D Have a good night all!!

9/9/2013 8:39:41 PM

  Jean, all your images are winners in my book :-) Absolutely gorgeous pictures! I agree about the categories. I never can decide what to put my pictures in, I used to enter them in catch all when I could not decided, but now we are not allowed to do that either...

9/9/2013 11:54:06 PM

  Yeah, they sort of shot themselves in the foot with the pickiness on categories. Now that they shot down the options to put stuff in Travel/Place and Catch All, everything ends up in Landscapes, and that helps nobody, because they always pick the same people's stuff anyway. So now they skip over everybody's good work and pick just a few, JUST LIKE ALWAYS, so who is benefiting from the changes?? The EP picker, that's who. I definitely challenge Jim's saying that they are looking at every photo. I don't believe that, no matter what he says. If the quality of stuff that does go through had gotten better, maybe, but that's sure as heck not the case. It's same old, same old, just like before only less of it.

9/10/2013 2:29:28 AM

  I agree about categories, too... and if they have rules about categories then they should follow them: why a DD or a flower image sometimes wins in EOD?

9/10/2013 5:52:44 AM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  8/19 D-Day Reinactment

9/10/2013 9:46:28 AM

  I just picked one up for August 19th after a couple of skips.

August 19 - Flowers
Prickly Pear with Bee

9/10/2013 10:32:18 AM

  8/18 Skipped
8/19 Glorious Gazania- Flowers category
8/20 Keep Bodie Safe- T & P category

9/10/2013 4:35:01 PM

  Is there a link for September EP's?

9/11/2013 7:22:42 AM

9/11/2013 7:35:15 AM

  Now that Carolyn has given us the Thread ID, you can just go up to the URL for this screen and change the last two digits to 19 (so it will be 36019) hit Enter.

9/11/2013 7:44:35 AM

  Thanks Carolyn & Kathy, changing the last 2 numbers worked.

9/11/2013 8:24:00 AM

  Also, thanks Cheri for all the times you provided this to us too! I'm now on the September one..

jo ann c.

9/11/2013 8:35:58 AM

  The last one I got for August was on 8/14.

9/11/2013 9:12:27 AM

Brian M. Jones
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  I am curious is to wonder if "Everyone" is feeling the pinch of not getting EP's like they used to or is it that the usual Winners are still getting EP's like before and the rest of us are getting skipped..

Just curious and I am not here to offend anyone nor do I want angry emails, I am just wondering if BP is playing fair and cutting back EP's for "Everyone"

9/11/2013 11:43:06 AM

  You can just about bet that the usual suspects are still getting theirs. You know who they are, go to their galleries and look.

9/11/2013 12:30:02 PM

Tammy Espino
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  What Carolyn said :)

9/11/2013 12:55:21 PM

Jayne Martin

member since: 10/3/2006
  Maybe BP is just encouraging us all to "step up our game," including myself! I know I think twice before uploading photos now! No offense to anybody on this thread - just my 2 cents' worth. The only thing we can count on is that change is constant and evidently BP is changing things -- love it or hate it. Best of luck to everyone in the BP community in the August challenge, including the winners who always win!

9/12/2013 2:26:29 AM

  Ok, you guys are gonna make me reveal some of my own tortured soul here. I've long thought that most "winning" folks on here just produce consistently excellent images. Which I do not. I kinda feel my own explanation is related to first, experimenting with new subjects or technique, second not being very proficient with software (beyond the basics) and third, not having better equipment (lenses, in particular). In short, I often feel like it's a struggle to make a really good image. Lord knows I keep at it (passion or obssession?) and I can see a huge improvement from when I first started, without a doubt. I figure that unlike me, who often gets only a couple good shots out of many taken, that these winning-est folks are more proficient than myself. And that, just like when I started at BP, if I keep striving to produce images like those I will only become more proficient as well. Even if I have to take a break every now and then to give my head a rest from all the hair pulling ;)

Comparing all the images that could/should be winners and narrowing that down has got to be a tough job. I'm not immune to wondering about favorites on BP but I also realize that I don't know the criteria for selecting one great image over another. Like many have said before, feedback from the judges on why a winning image was chosen would be immensly helpful! Not to "justify" their choice but to add to the learning element here.

9/12/2013 4:10:10 AM

  We whiners, whine because the choices they make, make no sense to us...especially on our own galleries. I, for one, wouldn't care so much about the number of finalists, but the insanity (IMO) of the ones they pick. For example, last month I had only two "Staff Favorites" and the one they made a finalist, while a nice enough shot, in my opinion wasn't anywhere near as good as the one that didn't make finalist. You can see both of them on page 6 of my gallery. Again, the cause of yet another whine is on page 4. Who would pick the wind catchers and skip the car (~8~) and the butterfly?? I don't get it, and that's why I whine! Other whiners, please weigh in.

9/12/2013 5:02:58 AM

Brian M. Jones
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  Like a good friend said to me recently here, It is the lack of consistency in which the EP's are being handed out now..

9/12/2013 5:29:02 AM

  I'd like some learning time on today's POTD. It was a Finalist in the Catch-All category for July, and I loved it, but was so confused. To me, it looks as though it would have to be a Digital Darkroom piece to achieve those wonderful effects. The settings that were used are available with the image.

Would some of you more knowledgeable photographers look at it, and tell me how it was done? It's so fascinating, but I cannot figure it out (and it's driving me nuts!) Thanks.

9/12/2013 6:42:30 AM

Ken Smith
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  Kathy, I think it's a non DD type of photo. I'm sure he did some touch-ups, etc. Maybe a boost in yellows?

Just looking at the frozen drops, he probably used shutter speed of 1/60th sec or so...maybe faster, with back-lighting. You could click his "contact" button and ask him.

9/12/2013 6:56:38 AM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  Loved that photo. Doesn't look like much done in post to me. Looks like perfect lighting and time of day. Marvelous capture.

9/12/2013 7:04:42 AM

  Here are the settings:
f/11, 1/640 second, ISO: 200, Focal Length: 185mm

Back lighting could be the answer I was looking for. I just couldn't figure out how 2 or 3 people were sharp with dark blues in the clothing, and the others were covered in gold speckled light.

Thanks for the feedback. Regardless of how it was done, it really is a remarkable picture.

9/12/2013 7:21:36 AM

  The only thing I can put my finger on as to why some of my photos are not getting EP's is that I am trying to learn texturing and special effects. I never get an EP on those shots even though people comment on them and seem to like them. I like them the best often times but it does not matter what I like, does it? I can't complain about what was a finalist or not but I do wonder about why some shots are chosen and others are not. It is totally subjective and therefore inconsistent. And I will continue to experiment with textures and hope for the best. Ken Smith pointed out that some of my photos are too dark and he was right. It is all about learning. Thanks, Ken.

9/12/2013 8:46:33 AM

  Harriet! I just checked your gallery out and it is beautiful! I would hate to try to decide which one I WOULD NOT give it girl!

Hey y'all, check her gallery out..

jo ann c.

9/12/2013 9:34:06 AM

  I also have a tough time figuring out how they choose...They seem to always choose EPs for OK ones but not the ones that I am most proud of. THose just get ignored.When I was an Administrator of several groups at a different site, sometimes I got busy with other stuff and rushed through approving images to be included in our groups. I would just look through thumbnails and not have the time to actually take a close look at all the images. Sometimes I think that is what they are doing here...just glancing at thumbnails and dismissing many awesome images. While the same folks win and get finalists consistently, makes me wonder if they are just favorites of the judges...A couple months ago I saw one member who had 12 finalists while many of us got none and somehow that just did not seem fair, Granted their images are always spectacular, but if they are just going to limit the amount of awards, it would be nice to give others a chance and not just be lazy and give them out to the same folks every month. For me, it's discouraging to go from getting EPs for almost every image to getting just a few with no explanation. I had a very successful photo gallery on Cape Cod for 3 years, and I know I should not let what happens on this site discourage me,but it still feels like not being one of the "Popular kids" in school...

9/12/2013 1:41:06 PM

  Jill, you hit a theory that's been running around my brain the past couple of days. It occurred to me that a quick glance at hundreds of thumbnails is the expedient way to cull out the not-so-fabulous shots. It's also the perfect way to miss some outstanding photographs.

Case-in-point is when I try to look through the "lists" of Finalists. There are so many that I don't open up on the first run-through, only to discover later that I had missed some truly special images.

If this is an accurate guess, it sure would explain a lot. Sort of. Maybe.

9/12/2013 2:27:54 PM

  I would so appreciate knowing who has had the 12 finalists. I don't look through carefully enough to know and it would be a great education to know who BP thinks is the best of the best!

9/12/2013 4:11:08 PM

Ken Smith
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  Harriet, thanks! I was holding my breath when you first mentioned my name..thinking. "uh oh, what did I do now?" :-)

9/12/2013 5:13:35 PM

  Anyone have anything in August after the 20th? My last is the 19th, but I see a report or two of the 20th.

9/16/2013 4:50:04 PM

  I just received one for Catch All for the 20th. I know this is not the thread but does anyone know where they are in September? Thanks,

9/16/2013 5:01:13 PM

  I only have one for 9-7 ..Attention Getter

And I have 7 for Aug, the latest being 8-18 ...Smoky Beauty

Sooo...hang in there gang! :-)

9/16/2013 5:13:03 PM

Ken Smith
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  Nikki, I just got one for the 21st of August. And I've seen some for Sept 9th, on the EP link. I haven't seen any for the 10th yet:

9/16/2013 5:14:45 PM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  8/? the Scout

Not exactly sure what date I posted it. I know it was after the 19th that was my last image and EP. My next photo after this wasn't posted until the 24th so this is somewhere in between. :)

9/16/2013 7:00:39 PM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  8/21 Cleveland Lights
I think. When they are a month behind I don't always know the date.

9/17/2013 12:14:04 PM

  8/22..EOD..Cool Interior Touches

9/17/2013 12:48:06 PM

  Did you notice that there are 11791 EPs on that site, Ken.

9/17/2013 1:53:14 PM

  I tried to make this image of Patrick's a favorite. Each time I clicked on one of the two hearts, this is the message that popped up...

"Photo Removed or Not Approved

Sorry - the photo you have requested has been removed or has not been approved for publishing."

Seeing as the image IS there, what is happening now? Btw, I was able to access the discussion.

9/17/2013 1:57:39 PM

  When a member decides to delete an image for some reason and does so, the thumbnail often remains. This happens in our FFFP Club gallery quite frequently - people delete an image from their main gallery but not the thumbnail from the club gallery. So you click on it and it fails to open and you get this message instead. I am guessing the same thing happens in the EP folder. The image was entered, it was left in the contest long enough to get an EP, and then Patrick (who probably did not realize they had not gotten to this point in the month and thought it had been passed over) deleted it.

9/17/2013 2:18:03 PM

  Both the thumbnail, the full size image, and the entire discussion are there - both on the EP list and in Patrick's gallery.

9/17/2013 2:31:02 PM

  I almost deleted the photo I got my most recent EP on. Because things are so haphazard one could make that mistake. I started putting the date entered and the category in the description box. This helps me know when a photo has been passed over but the best policy is to wait until the finalists have been announced. Again, placing the date entered and the category in the description box has helped me keep up with my entries. Also, on the last day of the month I print out the pages in the "contest entries" tab. On the first of the new month, this page goes away and it can get confusing. It is easy to think that a photo has been passed over.

9/17/2013 2:41:26 PM

  I've been doing that for at least two years, Harriet. It was too confusing to keep track of all my Finalists and Winners. (snicker). Many members have their images organized by highest awards first. It's very difficult when they mention current entries - with or without EPs. I usually quit looking after the first 8 screens.

9/17/2013 3:16:28 PM

  Btw, I honestly don't think that Patrick removed his image. It's all still there.

9/17/2013 3:17:37 PM

  New EFP's overnight for the 22nd & 23rd.

9/18/2013 4:52:19 AM

  Last EP had been 8/20. Now:
8/21 no entry
8/22 skipped
8/23 Yesterday's News - Catch all
8/24 Little Skipper - Animals

9/18/2013 5:05:01 AM

Finally! I just couldn't figure out what might be wrong with this photo. I guess they just hadn't got to it yet:

I'm Outa' Here!

9/18/2013 5:43:01 AM

  Well something is definitely wrong-this is the wrong photo for the ID #. What a way to start the Day! : (

9/18/2013 5:46:49 AM

Oops, my mistake, I read it wrong:

I'm Outa' Here

9/18/2013 5:49:40 AM

  8/24..Macro..Drops On Leaf
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU EP Picker. I do so love this one.

9/18/2013 8:20:17 AM

  Frame Full of Cheer
Frame Full of Cheer

Colorful, cheery daisies! Basic adjustments in CS5.
8/24 Flowers

9/18/2013 10:12:22 AM

  Marching right along, they are. I'm up to 8/26.

9/18/2013 11:08:09 AM

  8/25..Landscape..Cloud Patterns And The Tree
I just got it all brought home just how unimportant this all is. Our neighbor just found our "neighborhood dog" Sammy dead in the road. No EP or lack of EP makes as much difference as that will.
We will miss him so much.

9/18/2013 12:28:01 PM

  Yes, ultimately unimportant. You've got that right, and I'm sorry about Sammy.

9/18/2013 12:31:27 PM

  Yes,too bad about the neighborhood dog. Dogs are such wonderful animals and we get so attached to them. Just a thought. I print out the pages of entries I made each month. I think I started doing it in April. That month I entered 18 photos and 16 got EP. Boy did things change in May. So far August looks pretty good although my favorite photo was skipped. Oh well, could be worse. I am not complaining, just thinking out loud.

9/18/2013 1:38:32 PM

Ken Smith
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  Hey Carolyn, so sorry to hear about Sammy. And you are correct; the EP is pretty unimportant compared to life's challenges. I hope it wasn't a neighbor that hit Sammy, and didn't stop.

9/18/2013 2:04:15 PM

  No, it wasn't. He got down on Hwy 9 about 1/2 mile from our road and somebody ran him down. I'm so sad, I can't stop crying. He was such a good boy.

9/18/2013 2:53:30 PM

  So sorry about Sammy, Carolyn.

9/18/2013 4:34:32 PM

8/25 Flowers

9/18/2013 4:36:18 PM

  So very sorry about Sammy, Carolyn. It is always a tragedy when our pets are hit senselessly by people not looking what's ahead of them on our roads.

9/18/2013 6:20:49 PM

All Fall Down

9/18/2013 6:26:31 PM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  8/22 Cleveland Sunset
8/23 Night Lights
8/24 D Day Reinactment
8/25 Surrounding The Bloom
8/26 Times Are A Changing

9/18/2013 6:55:43 PM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  Carolyn, so sorry for you and your neighborhood loss. Poor Sammy, I hope he didn't suffer.

9/18/2013 7:00:32 PM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  8/27 Fall Is Sneaking In

9/19/2013 3:38:05 AM

  8/22 skipped
8/26 skipped
8/28 Race Point Lighthouse N&L category

9/19/2013 7:09:26 AM

8/28..Animals..Who ME?

9/19/2013 11:37:42 AM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  8/28 Wildflowers

9/19/2013 2:27:24 PM

  Two Blue
Two Blue

Staff Favorite - Flowers - August 2013

Blue Daze flowers, also known as Hawaiian Blue Eyes, scientific name evolvulus glomerata.
The little blue flowers, each about the size of a nickel, bloom along branches of slightly hairy gray-green foliage, and close up at night.
These blue daze are growing in a pot along with sweet potato vine, the yellow-green leaves in the background.
Minor sharpening in CS. (No color adjustment ... they really are this beautiful blue!)
8/31 Flowers

9/23/2013 7:14:58 AM

  8/31.. Animals..HMMMM, One More Foot!
That makes a grand total of 11 for August. What a bummer! At least is was one more than last month, if that's supposed to be any consolation.

9/23/2013 7:36:11 AM

Jackie M. Sajewski
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  8/? Cobblestones Of Bergan
Last entry for August. Not sure of the date but it was after my 8/28 entry.

9/23/2013 7:36:17 AM

  I guess they are finished with August. Good luck everyone.

9/23/2013 7:36:35 AM

  I think I was 11 for 11 in I'm 4 for 10 in August...Back to the drawing board, I guess.. :-(

9/23/2013 7:43:39 AM

  No, three for August is a bummer Carolyn! :-(

9/23/2013 7:51:11 AM

  6 for August for me, but I did not enter very many as I had lots of medical tests going on.

9/23/2013 8:23:03 AM

  8/30 skipped.
8/31 skipped
that makes a big 8 out of 26 entered...oh well...:-( Last month I got 16 out of 31...go figure...

9/23/2013 9:25:26 AM

  Ah, I feel your pain. 11 of 31.

9/23/2013 9:58:07 AM

  10/27 for me. It seems each month the EPs get more selective.

9/24/2013 8:04:27 AM

  Last two entries for August got EPs.
8/27 3, 2, 1 - Elements of Design
8/29 Thief - Animals

I had a total of 18 entries with 13 getting EPs.

I only have 2 entries in Sept so far! Too much other stuff going on.

Good luck to everyone in the August picks!

9/24/2013 3:48:40 PM

  Will somebody post the Finalist List link on my FB timeline? It's too depressing to keep returning to my no EP August. Thanks.

9/24/2013 4:05:25 PM

  I got two Staff Favorites, but no Finalists yet.

9/30/2013 7:05:34 AM

  Finalist list for August is not out since I checked. However, I did get two Staff Favorites which I never got those before, one for my Self Portrait which really surprised me and one for Reflections in the Gardens... so maybe they are nearly ready for the Finalist in the next day or so...who knows? Only the Shadow Knows! :-)

jo ann c.

9/30/2013 7:39:53 AM

  I got 4 Staff Favorites, no word on Finalists. I did get a email from JIm though ! He asked me if I wanted to not get the mailings for the classes but still get the POTD and other new info. I wrote him back that I would appreciate it and he wrote me back that he took care of it for me. Granted I wrote to them quite awhile ago about all the emails I was getting, but it's nice to know he does read them.

9/30/2013 10:00:08 AM

  A BIG Congrats to all the wonderful finalists! This month they seem to be spread out much more fairly :-)

9/30/2013 12:45:25 PM

  Three SFs for August with two going on to Finalist! And yes, August seemed spread out and like it dragged on forever!

Good luck to all in the next round :)

9/30/2013 12:53:55 PM

  The Finalists are out...

My week is jammed with preparing for a trip, so please accept this as my sincere congratulations to those of you who did receive a Silver (and further to those who receive Golds.)

9/30/2013 1:21:06 PM

  This truly is not sour grapes but the Monthly Theme has 23 Finalists.

One is a definite "snapshot", one has no person in it, but just shoes, one I doubt could be shot by the subject because there is no way the camera could be placed at a high level aimed at a lower level from which the photographer dove (even with a timer!), and probably one of the most fantastic SPs I've ever seen was created using a special filter (totally digital darkroom effects - not enhanced out-of-the-camera.)

Personally, I believe that the latter one is actually Grand Prize fabulous, but honestly - why were these four entered into the MT? And, why did the Judges think that was okay? I'm becoming more and more confused as time goes on. I thought the new rules were much more stringent than in the past.

9/30/2013 1:48:47 PM

  I got one of my Staff Favorites is now a finalist, the Reflection one.. still have the other as staff fav.

Finalist of course are out! I'm excited to get ANYTHING! :-)

jo ann c.

9/30/2013 2:22:48 PM

Jackie M. Sajewski
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 3/21/2010
  I understanding us saying that we wish a great image we saw or even had hopes for one of ours to reach the next level but I do think its wrong and harmful to criticize the works of others. I don't think I have ever seen anything against doing post process work in the monthly theme. Regardless if they have or have not this is a public forum and no one that submitted an entry and probably celebrating should have to read about others questioning the validity and talent of their shot.

9/30/2013 2:38:12 PM

  I'm not criticizing the photographers (and never have done it; once an image is entered, it's too late and could be hurtful to the entrant.)

However, I'm just trying understand how the categories work - especially after the specific points were made in the couple of months. If anything, I'm really questioning the judging as applied by the rules and definitions.

Call me foolish, but I keep thinking maybe someone (staff or member) will finally explain things so that I actually "get it".

I truly did not mean to offend anyone, and probably should quit asking questions.

9/30/2013 3:13:43 PM

  Kathy, there is nothing to be explained, they do what they want here and I definelty see that anything is up for grabs, so just enter and hope for the best because there is no rhyme or reason anymore!

9/30/2013 3:40:18 PM

  The monthly theme was self portrait. I have never seen BP give instructions on the subject of the monthly theme. That said, Kathy it sounds like you are not sure what constitutes a self-portrait?

I don't think I've ever seen where BP give instructions as to the subject of the monthly theme. And it seems that entries represent different interpretations of the subject. One thing BP does say in their how to win section is that they look for new, fresh or original interpretations of subject matter. You might want to reference that section. I know I look at the categories section, often! Lol

9/30/2013 3:51:44 PM

  I'm with Kathy, I don't get it. The shoes is a very good photo but how does it qualify for self-portrait? Most people have a body. You are right, the best is the digital one--great shot and idea, but again most people I know do not have leaves around the face. :)

9/30/2013 4:22:28 PM

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  70 .  Latest Changes to BP website
This discussion isn't really about the contest, but there doesn't seem to be a place for general discussions of the website so I'll put it here.

Jim announced some changes recently - even polled people for input and was apparently thrilled with the responses. Now some changes have been made. I'm sure some of us like some of them and others don't. This discussion is meant to be a place where we can say both what we like about the changes and why (that may help other members enjoy BP even more) as well as what we don't like and why (that may help BP decide what to change in the future).

7/31/2013 8:08:59 AM

  I'll start.
I already wrote BP about this, but I that was before I realized how much impact it would have on me. The "previous page" and "next page" arrows up in the top corners of the page that enabled us to step through a set of entries (Recent Entries; Contest Finalists; Club galleries) are gone. I used these all the time when I perused the entries in order to enjoy the images full size and decide which ones I wanted to comment and/or vote (club) on. The fact that they are no longer there and I now have to use my browser back button in order to do this will cut out my commenting almost completely. I do not like to work from thumbnails - too easy to miss a great one by not opening it. And sometimes an eye-catching thumb turns out to be disappointing. The ability to step through full size images easily is very important to me.

7/31/2013 8:15:53 AM

Your note is thoughtful and should be helpful for BP. I hope that BP will listen to us and consider us before they make changes. I have enjoyed BP for a couple of years,now and I believe that I am a better photographer because of the association. I hope things work out for all of us, BP included.

7/31/2013 8:27:04 AM

  My feelings on some changes. Just spent my morning working on this email & discussion and I'm tired and frustrated.

Nikki, I will read your comments and respond when I have more time. Here is the info you asked me to post here:

BP Photo Contest Link On Your Description Line

I hate to bring this up during our June finalists and winners celebration time but I'm taking a break from BetterPhoto and I need your help for changes while I'm away.

Has anyone else noticed the changes to a finalist, second place winner and I assume first place and grand prize winners pages?

Here's an example:

Contrast of Colors

If you don't like the change would you please notify BetterPhoto and ask them to change it?

Here is the message I wrote to them this morning which explains it a little better and my feelings about it:

Hi BetterPhoto staff,

I don't like the new feature where you have added a link on the same line as my title of a finalist or second place winner.

You've placed it in front of my description and it takes people away from my description page.

I put a lot of time and thought to describe the image and you have added a link to your home page which advertises for you trying to attract new people to the contest.

It is advertising for you and I have marked I don't want advertising.

Would you please consider changing this as I feel it is unfair & unattractive?

Please try to find another way to do this.

Thank you in advance,

7/31/2013 8:30:41 AM


Wrote BP about the forward and back buttons and Jay Wadley just answered. They are supposed to be there - and are there on most systems. I can see them in IE on my computer but not in Firefox (which is what I use). My husband can see them in Firefox on his computer. I'm trying to figure out what's wrong on my end - when I do, I'll let you know in case anyone else has the same issue.

I am just so glad to know they are not supposed to be missing :)

7/31/2013 10:06:11 AM

  Jay just emailed me regarding my problem and I just sent him url samples. I'm impressed & grateful he responded so quickly and they are looking into it.

Hopefully all these glitches will be worked out.

I use Firefox so when I have time I will see what you mean, Nikki.

I have other problems too.. with uploading that never use to happen. Will have to deal with them after my break from BetterPhoto or maybe they will fix themselves by the time I return. :)

7/31/2013 10:17:58 AM

  Jay is probably the most member-responsive person at BP. He's helped me a couple of times, and many others have mentioned the same thing. If it needs fixing, and can be fixed - Jay is the best fixer-upper ever!

7/31/2013 11:45:24 AM

  I have a Mac and Safari as my browser. I just tried Google Chrome, and I have the little hearts on both internet systems. I will email Jay at BP and see if he can suggest any changes.

7/31/2013 1:39:22 PM

  No need to email Jay - he is working on this. I have sent him information from a number of sources. In general, the hearts seem to be there and working (though one person reported that they were there but not working correctly for her). It's the arrows to move through from one image to the next when you are in fully open mode that are there for some and not there for others.

7/31/2013 1:57:48 PM

  Thank you Nikki. Well I have already sent my email to Jay. I don't see the arrows at all. I'll just wait for a reply or wait to see some changes.

7/31/2013 2:18:39 PM

  If you look at a full size image in somebody's gallery who uses the old style, you no longer can favorite their pictures...There is a favorite button in the new style gallery, but not in th old one. Now I have no way to favorite many of the photos I look at as lots of folks still use the old style galleries.

7/31/2013 2:38:09 PM I see the little hearts...totally missed them as I was looking for the words. It would be nice if they let us know about stuff like this...Thankful for the Forums :-)

7/31/2013 2:42:17 PM

  Sorry I used the wrong url in my earlier post.

It should have been:

Contrast of Colors

OR look at this page on Jill O's gallery which has not been fixed yet either.

OR Nikki's

I hope I can explain this clearly...

Jay did fix it around noon but now there are all kinds of mistakes on my pages and it is still wrong. The heart is not red and there is funny lettering under my photo images

I told him that by clicking on the silver finalist badge it takes you to BP's home page where people can see the CONTEST IS NOW FREE and open to everyone.

I also said that it doesn't go to the WINNER"S PAGE like it suggests. I said the new line in blue right under my photo that says "Photo Contest Finalist" is redundant as it does the same thing and this is what he said back to me:

"The link and badge go back to our contest page which shows what contest the award was for. For your personal gallery you can choose not to display the badges."

So that is all the time and energy I am going to put into this. I have learned, "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change and courage to change the things I can." AND in this case... I can't change this!

BetterPhoto are making changes I may or may not like them but I will have to just accept them if I want peace within.

I just wanted you to know I tried to fix something not just for myself but for all members. Right now I'm really disappointed as I wasted precious time and energy for nothing.

If the new people they are trying to attract are more important than the old and faithful than so be it. Time will tell how well that works out for them.

7/31/2013 3:38:31 PM

  Thanks Nikki, Hope Jay gets this worked out. I use Firefox, Windows 7, 64 bit. Do not use any other browser. Having same problem as you have described. Will hold off on email/phone calls to see how this plays out.

7/31/2013 7:43:19 PM

  Just like Nikki, I use Firefox most of the times and the arrows are not to be seen, at least for now.


7/31/2013 11:26:07 PM

  For whatever it's worth, if I'm looking at what I think you're referring to, there are arrows (albeit tiny) on the pages using Google Chrome, my browser of choice.

8/1/2013 12:13:18 PM

  As of about 1 hour ago, the arrows had returned. Thank you Nikki and especially Jay for being so responsive to our requests.

8/1/2013 12:17:31 PM

  Oh, thanks for letting us know, Monnie and John. I use Firefox - they are there and functional now. Hooray. Thanks, Jay.

8/1/2013 12:26:10 PM

  Well the arrows show up using Safari & Google Chrome, and Firefox only in the Finalist pages but not in the club that I'm in. That's a bit better. Maybe because I'm on a Mac?

8/1/2013 1:45:59 PM

  Right you are, Amanda. Not there for me in the club, either. I passed this on to Jay.

8/1/2013 2:01:10 PM

  Good morning everyone,

Regarding my earlier post on the new blue link under our photos with Finalists or Gold badges I said I would keep you posted on what I came up with.

Well here it is... the blue links are staying.

I'm apposed to it but have been told we will have to agree to disagree on this matter.

I found out not all members object to it as much as I do and others would like it on a separate line.

Oh well, I tried... Win some! Lose some!

I hope they fix the other glitches for everyone.

So I'm signing off on this one.

CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN TO ALL THE OUTSTANDING JUNE WINNERS & FINALISTS!!! I would love to congratulate each and everyone personally but that is impossible for me to do.

Just know... You are the best in the world... (by BetterPhoto standards)


8/2/2013 8:59:39 AM

  I have been a member for many years, but don't often enter the contest or add photos. Still, I like to enter sometimes and have a place I can send people to to see my images. I find the photo uploading and sorting process to be harder and harder. Like right now I'm just trying to figure out what happened to my most recent entry, which I requested to have added to my gallery, and did sort order, and my new photo is supposed to be first in my gallery except it's not there. I used to be able to find the link for the album sort stuff, now I'm having a heck of a time finding it. I used to be able to find the links for the forums. Sure seems hard to find now. Why can't this be easy? It used to be easy.

8/6/2013 8:08:00 AM

  I sympathize with your frustration, Dorothy - seems as if whenever there are improvements in technology (and not just at BP), things that seemed just fine to me are harder to use, at least at first. Maybe I can help you with your problems, though.
First, some tabs that used to drop down from the top are now on the upper left in your Member Center, so go there and look in the upper left.
For uploading, sorting, editing additions to your gallery, viewing your month's contest entries, etc., you want to click on the 2nd link down, "My Photos"; that should help with the photo sort and display problems.
For discussions, you want to click on the 5th link down, "Forums". The easiest way to find or start a new discussion is to choose one of the three red links near the top: Ask a Question, All New Questions, All New Responses.

For your other problem - locating the photo that you moved to the front of your gallery and cannot now find, it's possible that you forgot to scroll down to the bottom of the sort page and click "Submit" after you sorted. I do that sometimes - and then all my time spent sorting is for naught.

Hope this helps.

8/6/2013 9:11:58 AM

  BTW, the arrows are back in the club galleries, too. Thanks again, Jay.

8/12/2013 9:34:35 PM

  Did you guys see this?
Now they are going to take "favorites" into consideration during the contest. They say they don't want it to be a popularity contest, but in the next sentence they tell you to have all your friends "favorite" your photo. In which universe isn't that a popularity contest? Just one more thing for me to dislike.

8/13/2013 9:00:42 AM

  Hmm, I think that they maybe asking us to "help" in the judging part of a photo, even though the judges have the last call. Do you think it is because they have been so slow in awarding merit to images? I really don't like the idea that our "Favoring" a photo influences their judgement.

8/13/2013 10:02:45 AM

  The thing is, many of us don't have time to go around "faving" photos, or chasing votes. I'm dealing with an Alzheimer's patient and all the chores he used to do, so this is the last thing I want to have to worry about.

8/13/2013 10:12:02 AM

  If this is true, then that will do it for me. It makes me downright angry. I live out here in the podunks and no one I know is on BP and even if I HAD friends on BP I would never ask them to "favorite" my photos. I would be offended if they asked me to do the same. It is politics plain and simple and another way for BP to get exposure. I already have my photos in another gallery so it is not the gallery aspect that interests me. I have admired the contest for years and finally got up the nerve/courage to enter it. If the judging is going to be based on some sort of popularity contest then the whole thing is bogus.

8/13/2013 11:02:16 AM

  I don't like this new development either, but I truly don't think it will change anything in the long run. I suggest we sit back, relax, and do the same thing we always have - favorite the images that really speak to us. I have never had many favorites on my images - probably 3/4 of my entries have zero favorites. Fine with me. I have always felt the few I did have really meant something - not always that someone adored an image because I recognize that people favorite for different reasons sometimes, but something. Jim has said the bottom line will still be the judges' opinion - perhaps favorites will get them to look carefully at a few images they might have missed or dismissed in the past, maybe that's a good thing. And as I said at the beginning, I don't really think this will change anything. At least that's what I've decided to choose to believe :)

8/13/2013 11:08:46 AM

  This makes sense. The other option is a "peoples choice award" each month. For example: I will not mention the name of the photographer but the flower she entered in June was breath taking. She had loads of comments and favorites but it only was a finalist and not a gold winner. I was very surprised. Outdoor photographer does this in their contests but the grand prizes are strictly decided by the judges. However, if they (BP) are having difficulty keeping up as it is, another category would be devastating. Bottom line, I hope that this cheerleader mentality of the favorites goes away. Thoughtful messages and encouraging words mean so much more.

8/13/2013 11:29:06 AM

  My biggest concern is that members of my yahoo group said it's possible to "LIKE" your own images.. and it's possible to do it several times... Which means a person could just spend all their time liking their own stuff over and over again to try to boost their chances at getting a closer look from the judges... I do NOT like the idea of more LIKES on an image in ANY way influencing the contest... Maybe do a "People's Choice" winner too... But do not mix the two!! I wish they would do polls asking whether members like ideas before they make changes...:(

8/13/2013 11:29:28 AM

  Ask our opinion?? Or listen when they get it?? Not happening.

8/13/2013 12:18:04 PM

  Sounds like Jim is asking us to help do the judges job! Not a good idea at all to have favs help pick an image for EP's and so forth! Down right shamefull!

8/13/2013 2:53:50 PM

  ...and when the heck are they going to get on with judging images for EP's? Nothing like being stuck in the middle of two months...

8/13/2013 2:55:07 PM

  Now a popularity contest?! What fun: trolling for votes. I'm only sorry BP now thinks its judges can't make a decision on the merits of the images alone. Really discouraging ...

8/13/2013 3:20:19 PM

  I would suggest that the new "fav" endeavor is a strictly business proposition. The more hits that BP gets the happier the advertisers are. Participation has been way down in BP land recently. In promoting this, however, the contest loses what authenticity it once had. Sad to see what has evolved over the last few years!

8/13/2013 5:20:01 PM

  I think we all sometimes get worked up over minor things... We like things the way they are and don't care for change, but like with all things, we will adjust... I don't know about you guys but I have to keep remembering that if I didn't enjoy it, I wouldn't do it.. and overall, I really enjoy BP and the contest... It keeps me shooting thing I know I wouldn't if there was no contest.. And for that I am thankful, if I get the judges attention, with or without favs. on an image, GREAT... I'm glad I did... I try hard not to to take the contest or myself too seriously here... In the end what does it do but make us mad or feel bad... Keep playing along cause you enjoy it..:)

8/13/2013 8:44:21 PM

  I don’t like it (Contest update from BP - “Judges now consider the Favorites count on contest entries”) either, it’s difficult to comprehend that the Pro judges will need/consider favorite counts.... to me it’s a dilution of unbiased and efficient judging process. Will wait to see how it unfolds .....

8/14/2013 4:03:12 AM

  Wow, guess I've been away too long. I do still enter/upload photos occasionally but haven't noticed the changes. I did look at the link below the Finalist button as shared in a previous post. The placement didn't bother me.

I recently entered a couple of photos into the contest. IMHO they are both worthy of at least an EFP. If neither get one then future entries would seem pointless to me.

The contest should be completely anonymous and should not be judged on who you are how how much judges like your work or how many favs you get. Too bad people have to watermark their images to prevent theft. For the contest I leave the watermark off. I did do that for a short while a few years ago but dropped the habit. I prefer to think my photos have won on their own merit.

As for BP in's still the cleanest site for having a gallery. I do wish it was a little less expensive.

8/14/2013 6:28:51 AM

  I do not like the favorites aspect of the contest. I "faved" my own photo just to see if it could be done and it can. I then "unfavorited" it right away. So much for that. I just hate to see the contest turn into a popularity contest not to mention an advertising ploy. It cheapens the whole experience for me.

8/14/2013 7:34:46 AM

Brian M. Jones
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 11/28/2012
  This whole favorite thing is pretty stupid. What if someone has a potential Grand Prize winning image, but gets no favorite attached to it?, will that photo now be considered no good, thus not even getting a Finalist..

There are people on here that are more popular than others, so if BP now considers favorites as determining a winner, we are going to have the same people win month after month after month based just on their popularity.. Yeah, that's the way to make people happy..

Images should be judged on talent not selecting hearts to pick favorites.. This is not high school to see who or what