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Cheri McEachin
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member since: 10/15/2006
  71 .  June EFP's
 
BetterPhoto.com Photo Contest Finalist
 
Tender
Tender
© Cheri McEachin
Canon EOS 7D Digit...
 
Thanks for letting me know..:) good luck everyone...

6/19/2013 4:23:44 PM

  6/1..Skipped
6/2..Landscape..Storm Warning
6/3..Skipped
6/4..Catch All..Beached

6/19/2013 4:27:57 PM

  tag

6/19/2013 4:31:34 PM

  June 1 - skipped
June 2 – T&P
Little Church on the Prairie
June 3 - EoD
The Sensitive Soul
June 4 - nothing yet but I would skip it LOL

6/19/2013 5:19:42 PM

  Sorry - I'm having the dickens of a time with my links lately.

June 3 – Elements of Design
The Sensitive Soul

6/19/2013 5:24:23 PM

  6/1-Sierra Morning Glow-resub
6/2-April Showers Bring May Flowers-3X resub
6/3-Sunshine Reflection-2
6/4, 5-no entries
6/6-Seconds Before Sunrise

6/19/2013 5:42:45 PM

  Four out of 5 through the 5th. Why do they always skip your favorite?

6/19/2013 5:49:15 PM

  Just got one for 6/4-guess I entered on that date afterall: Powered By Moonlight.

6/19/2013 5:50:23 PM

  I have to give up trying to figure this out. I got 2 either yesterday or today; from entries on May 20th and the 21st.

6/19/2013 6:02:36 PM

 
 
 
May or June, not sure.

6/19/2013 6:56:07 PM

 
 
  Kestrel Falcon
Kestrel Falcon
This little guys name is Camden. He was rescued in Baltimore after flying into a window near Camden Yards. He injured one of his wings and lost an eye. His home is now at the Maryland Zoo where he is being well taken care of.
 
 
May or June, not sure.

6/19/2013 6:58:42 PM

  You uploaded this in May, Melissa. If you didn't enter it until June, it will show in your current contest entries list. If it's not there, I would assume you entered it either the 30th or 31st of May.

6/19/2013 7:10:55 PM

  Tag and one for May 5th, my only entry so far this month.

So I'm batting 1000 too, Kathy.

Gratitude

Things look promising for May. All the best!!!

6/19/2013 7:31:14 PM

  I think you mean June, Sharon - and it's gorgeous!!

6/19/2013 7:36:35 PM

  Thank you Nikki, you're right... it's June. Daaaaaaaaaa.. what day is it. LOL

Congratulations to all those who've received EFPs. As someone said in May, we sure do appreciate them more now they're so few and far between.

Let's all do the wave for May and June EFPs. I'm on my feet and my arms are in the air. :)

6/19/2013 8:24:01 PM

  tag

6/19/2013 10:07:33 PM

 

Thanks Cheri for putting up the thread each month.

June 2nd got skipped.

Looking Up
June 1, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Elements of Design

Shades of Grey
June 3, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Elements of Design

Grand Entrance
June 4, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Travel & Place

All tied up
June 5, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Elements of Design



6/20/2013 12:18:34 AM

  I was actually ok with them not giving out so many EPs. After entering them in the contest, I would look at them the next day and wonder why I even entered them, they just didn't look that good. Now I see I was given ten in a row. Are they back to giving them for everything again?

Nick.

6/20/2013 3:34:16 AM

  6/5..Skipped
6/6..Skipped
6/7..T/P..Blue Ridge Mountain Morning

6/20/2013 6:03:46 AM

  not yet!

6/20/2013 8:47:00 AM

  May I ask someone to tell me how to make a link in this thread? Pretty please? :)

6/20/2013 10:01:43 AM

  At the Ball Park
6/1 Travel & Place (a new category for me)

Didn't enter anything else until 6/7 ... a slow photography month for me ...

Many thanks to Nikki for sending me instructions to make the link!

6/20/2013 11:06:04 AM

  tag didn't submit a photo until the 18th.

6/20/2013 1:24:48 PM

 
 
 
June

6/20/2013 1:34:00 PM

 

Just found two new EPs showing under my May 13 and May 16 submits which were originally skipped, check yours too!

Whistle Blower
June 6, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Monthly Theme



6/20/2013 9:09:47 PM

  June 1, 2, and 3 EPs
June 4 skip
June 5 was a resub with existing EP
June 6, if they're finished with that, would be a skip

6/21/2013 7:32:43 AM

  Yayyyyyyyy!!!

They are going through May's EPs again.
I just received one for the 18th, an image I really love and worked hard at getting.
And it is May this time. LOL

His First Camera

Have a great weekend everyone!!!

6/21/2013 12:02:18 PM

  Well, they don't seem to be going through mine. Oh well, I will have some good resubmits.

6/21/2013 1:06:29 PM

  Tag :)

6/21/2013 2:07:24 PM

  Tag.
Only 2 EPs so far, but have been so busy I've only entered 12 this month and they are all from my archives.

6/21/2013 9:39:55 PM

  Just got on my June 7 entry :)

UB.

6/23/2013 4:46:22 PM

  June 7 for me, too.

6/23/2013 10:11:48 PM

Chris Schofield
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member since: 6/6/2007
  I'v had several from May that I resubmitted for June and they are getting EP's now. So not sure if its the June submission that is getting the EP or the first submission that I did in May. Because a few that I submitted in May, and have not resubmitted are now showing up with EP's. ????? So I'm really not sure for which month the EP is for.

6/23/2013 11:44:03 PM

  6/8..Flowers.. Calla Cutie

6/24/2013 2:52:48 AM

Ken Smith
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  Chris, if you submitted a photo for the May contest, but didn't resubmit it in June, then the EP you just picked up is for the May contest. Which means it's in the running for May finalists.

6/24/2013 4:52:15 AM

 
 
  Curlicues
Curlicues

Shot outside an antique store in Brenham, Texas.
Minor adjustments in CS5.
 
 
June 7
Monthly Theme

6/24/2013 6:57:06 AM

  6/7-Early Morning Flight-ed.

6/24/2013 7:08:59 AM

  6/7-A Beautiful Day At The Lake

6/26/2013 7:39:36 AM

  Another one popped up under my June 8 entry.

UB.

6/26/2013 9:17:05 AM

  My 6/7 A Beautiful Day At The Lake, was actually entered on 6/8.

6/26/2013 9:19:23 AM

  Where's Joannie?

6/26/2013 10:05:33 AM

  Bob, I can only show up when I get an EP and guess what, NO EP's for June! :-)

6/26/2013 4:04:46 PM

  Just for the heck of it, can somebody define "Contrasts" (Monthly Theme) for me. My entry with a brilliant orange against a deep rich purple was skipped over. I had thought that was a sharply contrasted color scheme. It's become impossible for me to self-critique any more.

6/26/2013 6:41:34 PM

  Just for the heck of it, can somebody define "Contrasts" (Monthly Theme) for me. My entry with a brilliant orange against a deep rich purple was skipped over. I had thought that was a sharply contrasted color scheme. It's become impossible for me to self-critique any more.

6/26/2013 6:41:34 PM

  When I think of contrast, it is light against dark, and when you pump up the contrast on an image software, it will add dark to the light in your image. So, if you want a color contrast, the other color can be complimentary, but it also has to be either darker or lighter than the color you're bouncing off of. I hope that makes sense.

6/26/2013 7:44:11 PM

  I thought that's what my entry did, Nancy Marie. I'll have to check to see which entries are selected; it's just confusing right now. Thanks for your input.

6/26/2013 8:25:50 PM

Ken Smith
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  Kathy, maybe I'm looking at a different photo in your gallery. But the one I'm seeing was uploaded on the 17th. I don't think they're up to the 17th yet, for EPs. I've seen comments on EPs thru the 7th. Again, I could be mixing apples and oranges and you're talking about a photo from a couple of weeks ago.

6/26/2013 8:30:23 PM

  Gosh, do I feel stupid. I kept thinking I had entered that one earlier in the month, but had forgotten to do so. My brain just hasn't caught up with reality apparently. Sure wish I could go back and delete my first comment. Thanks, Ken.

6/26/2013 9:09:05 PM

Ken Beatty
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  tag

6/27/2013 4:53:57 AM

  6/10..Landscape..Sun Kissed Mist

6/27/2013 5:29:09 PM

 
 
 
6/9 Catch-All

6/27/2013 5:30:57 PM

 
 
 
6/9-Summer Morning Fun At The Lake

6/27/2013 6:10:11 PM

Lola M.
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6/2 Nature and Landscapes

6/4 Flowers
Columbine

6/9 Animals
Morning Dove

6/27/2013 6:18:41 PM

Lola M.
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  6/2 Nature and Landscapes
Sunset Delight

6/4 Flowers
Columbine

6/9 Animals
Morning Dove

6/27/2013 6:20:48 PM

 
 
 
Woot Woot! June 10

6/27/2013 7:11:39 PM

  Look out Bob, here I come...

Crossroad
6/10

6/27/2013 9:14:13 PM

  Go Joannie, Go Joannie, Go Joannie!!!!

6/28/2013 6:39:39 AM

  Looks as though the May Finalists are out; anybody know the Link?

Congratulations to all that are on that list.

6/30/2013 1:02:43 AM

  Found it myself (figures! lolllllllll)

http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGall2.asp?catID=57300

6/30/2013 1:04:41 AM

 
 
BetterPhoto.com Photo Contest SECOND PLACE Winner
 
Head Over Heels
Head Over Heels

Second Place - Flowers - June 2013

Orange Gerbera daisy against hot pink background, straight out of camera, no editing of any kind.
Trying my hand at in-camera impressionism ... The vibrant colors and dreamy feel
reminded me of the goofy, wonderful, intensely alive feeling of falling in love.
Canon 100mm macro lens; f/2.8; intentional soft focus;
exposure comp +0.67; afternoon window light, no flash, tripod.
 
 
6/10 Flowers

6/30/2013 3:56:45 PM

  6/11..T/P..Old Cabin On The Blue Ridge Parkway
6/12.. Landscape..Rocky Top

6/30/2013 4:08:10 PM

  Tightly Wrapped
6/11/13
Flowers

6/30/2013 5:22:52 PM

 
 
 
6/10-Cove Reflections
6/11-Land Of The Rising Sun
6/12-On The Rocks

6/30/2013 5:41:24 PM

 
 
 
6/10-Cove Reflections
6/11-Land Of The Rising Sun
6/12-On The Rocks

6/30/2013 5:55:07 PM

  I tried to show all 3 by showing the ID #, but there was only a space for the first ID #.

6/30/2013 6:00:08 PM

  6/13..Macro.. Early Morning Dew

7/1/2013 8:27:11 AM

  Email just came so be sure to read it. Resubs will no longer be permitted.

7/1/2013 2:37:08 PM

Brian M. Jones
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 11/28/2012
  RULES CHANGE:
I wanted to let you know that, as of today, we're not going to allow re-entry of photos. Only enter a photo once. When you go to enter again and again (which we encourage), use different photos.

The intention of the contest is to help us all get out creating more often. Every single photo is examined by more than one of our pro judges; if your great photo doesn't make it to the final rounds, don't allow yourself to feel bad about it. Just take it to mean the competition was steep...and BE INSPIRED to keep trying, with different photos.


Brian

7/1/2013 2:41:01 PM

Brian M. Jones
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 11/28/2012
  Sorry, I meant to write that I got an email I am sure every BP member got today and it read as follows

This is what Jim wrote:

RULES CHANGE:
I wanted to let you know that, as of today, we're not going to allow re-entry of photos. Only enter a photo once. When you go to enter again and again (which we encourage), use different photos.

The intention of the contest is to help us all get out creating more often. Every single photo is examined by more than one of our pro judges; if your great photo doesn't make it to the final rounds, don't allow yourself to feel bad about it. Just take it to mean the competition was steep...and BE INSPIRED to keep trying, with different photos.


Any thoughts anyone?

7/1/2013 2:53:02 PM

  I have never resub'd anyway, but I didn't see anything on the changes to the contest. Is this the only change?

7/1/2013 5:15:27 PM

  TODAY I RECEIVED THESE TWO EMAILS FROM JIM AT BETTERPHOTO REGARDING RESUBMITING PHOTOS...

Email #1...

Hi Sharon

We have posted the contest winners and, once again, WOW!

I mean, WOW!!!

I am always so inspired by the entries into the contest. And this month was no exception.

Thanks to all for their amazingly beautiful photos.

(If you have not seen them yourself yet, go to the Contest menu and click on "Winners" option... they are well-worth a break from your busy schedule. You'll likely feel as inspired and motivated to go out shooting as I am).

RULES CHANGE:
I also wanted to let you know that, as of today, we're not going to allow re-entry of photos. Only enter a photo once. When you go to enter again and again (which we encourage), use different photos.

The intention of the contest is to help us all get out creating more often. Every single photo is examined by more than one of our pro judges; if your great photo doesn't make it to the final rounds, don't allow yourself to feel bad about it. Just take it to mean the competition was steep...and BE INSPIRED to keep trying, with different photos.

My dream is to see your photography get better and better, and to see you continue to have a great time making great photos.

Keep up the awesome shooting and thanks again for the inspiration!

Thanks,
Jim

P.S. Our judges may take a few days off from time to time. If that happens, just know that we'll catch up as soon as possible. Our commitment to you is that we continue to grow as the most inspiring, most supportive, and most prestigious photo contest on the Web. Here's to happy shooting and healthy competition - the kind that helps us all become the best photographers we can be.


Email #2...

Thank you for all the positive responses about the contest change. We love to get your emails!

Also many of you have asked about whether or not it's okay to resubmit an image you've reworked.

Yes, as long as you've changed the photo in a substantial way.

We don't want to see an image that is only slightly darkened or cropped. But if the photo is essentially a new photo, that's cool. This is of course subject to the judge's decision as to whether it feels like a substantially new photo.

Thanks
Jim

7/1/2013 7:15:55 PM

  Thanks, Sharon. The emails showed up for me after I posted here. :-)

I'm curious about the first sentence to the second email. It's the one about the positive responses to the contest changes. When were we given the chance to respond except for the forums? Guess I missed that one! lol

7/2/2013 4:41:28 AM

  Does anyone know where they stopped on EPs? I see one posted here for 6/13 ... Have they done 6/14?
Thanks
Peggy

7/2/2013 3:46:22 PM

  Beats me anymore! My last 4 for June were skipped and I just got one for July 1st..... Time for a cold beer me thinks.. :-)

7/2/2013 4:22:13 PM

Ken Smith
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  I got one for July 1st too...time to start the July EP forum. And I'll have a beer shortly! :-)

7/2/2013 5:30:34 PM

  I enter every day - unless I forget. Most of them are new entries. My last EP was on June 7 - I have three other EP's on resubs (I used to do about five per month-. Other than that, the cupboard is bare.

7/2/2013 5:50:08 PM

  I feel really demotivated on my photography here at BP...1 EP in June 10th, no finalists for the last two months...not much looking forward. However, last week I started a blog on street photography, or what I name impromptu photography, and am getting some visits and already a couple of followers. So...my shots are probably not that awful after all; and there might be some light at the end of the tunnel If interested please visit my blog at http://photosbybeatriz.wordpress.com
I would love to hear from any, and all of you!
Beatriz

7/2/2013 5:52:09 PM

  I haven't had a drink since 1996 but I think I'll start again.....hahahahaha! (Seriously, I think I will)

7/2/2013 7:02:55 PM

  I also got the emails and nobody from BP ever asked me what I thought...anyway, I have a question about not resubbing images...What if you posted an image in E of D but thought maybe it could have also gone in the DD category. Does that mean you can never resub it in a different category?
How come we get 2 emails on the new rules, but nobody ever sent one about what's up with the EPs? I am more interested in that !
For me, no finalists, hardly any EPs in the last couple months. It is kind of depressing, especially when I see somebody get 12 finalists in one month...Several other members got 6 or 7...All the images that got finalists and winners are beautiful, but what about the rest of us???

7/3/2013 12:42:24 AM

  Jill, I emailed BetterPhoto and asked that very question, about categories. Here is the response:

Hi Peggy,
Thanks for the note. For submitting, it's one submission total for a particular picture, regardless of the category.

Hope that helps and Happy Shooting!
Team BetterPhoto
bpsupport@betterphoto.com

BetterPhoto.com, Inc. ®
The Better Way to Make Better Photos
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7/3/2013 8:22:38 AM

  I actually got an EP for my July 1st image, Does that mean they are done handing out June Eps?

7/3/2013 1:09:05 PM

  No Jill, they are only half way through the month of May, I believe! I have one for July 1st as well but the EP judges have a mind of their own!

7/3/2013 1:49:03 PM

  I meant June! :-)

7/3/2013 1:50:06 PM

  Self estime a little higher after an EP on my July 1st entry - but June is still dead silent...

7/3/2013 4:48:07 PM

  Not any more!
6/14..Flowers..Dogwood In The Pink

7/5/2013 10:03:25 AM

  Is dead silent for me. Everything in June since the 3rd.

7/5/2013 10:43:38 AM

  None for me after June 12th!

7/5/2013 11:04:27 AM

  Rose Macro
6/14/2013
Details and Macro

7/5/2013 11:37:10 AM

  And still nothing in June for me after the 7th. Did pick up July 1 and 2, though, so I am not completely invisible LOL

7/5/2013 11:42:23 AM

  Finally picked up another last night.

15 June Flowers
Whispering

7/7/2013 5:49:48 AM

Cheri McEachin
BetterPhoto Member

member since: 10/15/2006
  Here is July's Thread

http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=35992

7/7/2013 10:12:37 AM

Lola M.
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BetterPhoto.com Photo Contest Finalist
 
Sleepy
Sleepy
 
 
6/11 Animals

6/12 Details and Macro
Golden

6/15 Animals
Young Robin

7/7/2013 2:33:26 PM

  Vasquez Rocks June 16th

7/7/2013 4:06:37 PM

  6/15..Skipped
6/16..DD..Buzzy Dreamy Flower Field

7/8/2013 8:14:56 AM

  June 16 – Monthly Theme (Contrast)
Jonquille

7/8/2013 8:40:46 AM

Ken Beatty
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  June EFP are very sparse for me. I think I've gotten 3. Not positive.

7/8/2013 8:52:34 AM

 

Have been away for work and did not get time to copy my June entries for keeping track of day-of-entry and category for each photo. So I am at a loss here knowing which image was entered when and in which category.

However, I see the below 5 new EPs which were not there when I left for work.

Water Painting

Blue View

Mr. Big Mouth

Veil in Vale

Against All Odds



7/9/2013 3:03:31 AM

  Guess they are still handing out Eps for June..."Let Me Out!" JUne 16th...:-)

7/9/2013 7:38:40 PM

Ken Beatty
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  Falls - Ricketts Glenn
Falls - Ricketts Glenn
 
 
One of the few I just got today but I lost track of when I submitted it...

7/10/2013 6:31:22 AM

 
 
  Color Splash
Color Splash

Orange Gerbera daisy against hot pink background.
Minor adjustments only, in CS5.
 
 
6/16 Flowers

7/10/2013 7:14:40 AM

  6/17.. flowers.. Sue's Rosebush

7/10/2013 8:36:03 AM

Lola M.
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member since: 3/29/2005
 
 
BetterPhoto.com Photo Contest Finalist
 
Columbine
Columbine
 
 
6/16 Flowers

7/10/2013 8:47:15 AM

  Painted Rose
6/17/2013
Flowers

7/10/2013 9:27:45 AM

  Still for me EPs on the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, and everything since has been skipped.

7/10/2013 10:14:32 AM

  If they are already on the 16th and 17th then I only have a couple of EP's. Congratulations to all of you who are getting some EP's. I think I will take a break. Nothing I submit seems to be working so my photo self esteem is taking a beating.

7/10/2013 1:57:43 PM

  What's just as bad as having your photo self-esteem taking a dive is the rapid deterioration of your self-confidence in critiquing abilities. How am I supposed to enter pictures I'm not even sure are worth looking at? I have one in for the 19th that I think is a good one. Maybe, it will be judged by the end of the week. We shall see.

7/10/2013 2:37:18 PM

  7/18..Landscape.. Spring Green

7/11/2013 2:46:40 AM

Ken Beatty
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Thankfully another EFP..

7/11/2013 4:28:50 AM

 
 
 
Morning Along The Shoreline- June 16th.

7/11/2013 6:32:52 AM

  I tried to find the place where we used to be able to enter the ID# of our photo, but that screen did not come up. Anyone have a clue what happened to it?

7/11/2013 6:43:08 AM

 
 
 
Hit Respond. Put answer in as I am doing. Just below this box, there is a "select" drop-down where I can enter a number of images. I will enter 1, submit, and hope, Marie :) .

7/11/2013 6:54:13 AM

  On the next page, I put the photo ID number in. Then I submitted. As you can see above, nothing. Anyone else?

7/11/2013 6:56:20 AM

  I did all those things, but never did see the spot for entering the ID#. Maybe it just wasn't showing on my iPhone.

7/11/2013 7:07:48 AM

 
 
  Erosion of Being II
Erosion of Being II

This stone head was a piece of a fountain assembly at a local nursery.
It originally had blank eyes, but I was able to give him quasi human
looking eyes using Portrait Professional.
Added a layer mask from Shadowhouse and did some additional painting in CS5.
 
 
6/17 Digital Darkroom

7/11/2013 8:28:54 AM

 
 
 
Morning Along The Shoreline
ID#13936871

7/11/2013 8:52:08 AM

 
 
 
Morning Along The Shoreline
ID#13936871

7/11/2013 8:54:22 AM

 
 
 
This is the last time I try to submit this photo.

7/11/2013 9:06:41 AM

 
 
 
Morning Along The Shoreline

7/11/2013 9:22:51 AM

  I finally wrote to BP to ask why the space for the ID# was taken down, and how could I put my photo showing the EFP tag on the Forum, as there is no way to do it now. I know it worked about a week ago, but something must have happened, because the space to write your ID No. is gone.

7/11/2013 9:35:14 AM

 
 
 
Morning Along The Shoreline - PhotoID 13936871
PhotoID: 13936871

7/11/2013 9:42:18 AM

  Looks like you will have to enter a fresh copy if you want to put it in the discussion area.
What about people who put their photos on their websites and then later want to enter them in the contest?? I guess the answer will be the same, a fresh copy??

7/11/2013 9:47:53 AM

  Nancy Marie, if I'm understanding correctly the method you're describing, I was able to use it for my post above ...
Could it be that you have already entered the contest today? Apparently it doesn't work in that case, per Michelle's instruction in the monthly "countdown" thread.
And if I misunderstood, just ignore me ... :)

7/11/2013 10:34:49 AM

Ken Beatty
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  Pennsylvania Sunset
Pennsylvania Sunset
A beautiful evening with a gorgeous Pennsylvania sunset over the Blue Mountains
 
 
Uniquely Pennsylvania!

7/12/2013 9:20:02 AM

Ken Beatty
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member since: 8/22/2012
  EFP for June 17!

7/12/2013 9:21:36 AM

Lola M.
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  Opening
Opening
 
 
6/20 Flowers

7/14/2013 6:29:37 AM

 
 
  Chomp!
Chomp!
iso 100, 100mm (Canon 100L macro), f/2.8 (av priority), 1/100 sec, tripod, cs5.....From the Silverman's Palouse 2013 photo workshop.

For the photogroup101's "metal" theme day.

Happy Theme Day

 
 
6-20....

7/14/2013 6:43:29 AM

  Well, good. My judgment about entering this one must have been okay because it received an EP. Here's to the new style of outhouses! lollllll


Monthly Theme (Contrast):
June 19 – Duplex

7/14/2013 6:53:31 AM

  This is what happens when you're out of practice (3 EPs in 4 months!) I got the photo ID# wrong in the previous post.) If this one doesn't work, it's the purple and orange doors in my gallery.

Monthly Theme (Contrast):
June 19 – Duplex

7/14/2013 6:57:58 AM

  This is what happens when you're out of practice (3 EPs in 4 months!) I got the photo ID# wrong in the previous post.) If this one doesn't work, it's the purple and orange doors in my gallery.

Monthly Theme (Contrast):
June 19 – Duplex

7/14/2013 6:57:58 AM

 
 
  Flying in for Dinner
Flying in for Dinner
Taken with the Nikor 105 macro lens.
 
 
I entered late in June, on the 19th. It received a EP.

7/14/2013 7:44:15 AM

  6/19-Frenchman Lake Dawn

7/14/2013 1:09:31 PM

  Two new EPs, not sure about the dates though!


Summered
June 2013 ~ ~ ~ Flowers

Laugh Out Loud
June 2013 ~ ~ ~ People



7/14/2013 9:01:02 PM

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  Harrison Falls - Ricketts Glen
Harrison Falls - Ricketts Glen
A wonderful Fathers Day with my 2 sons who are behind this awesome waterfall!
 
  Ganoga Falls - Ricketts Glen
Ganoga Falls - Ricketts Glen
 
  Eyes to see
Eyes to see
 
 
Thankful for EFP's Don't remember the dates entered.

7/15/2013 3:47:24 AM

 
 
  Frenchman Lake Dawn
Frenchman Lake Dawn
F22.0-1/15-EV-0.5, ISO 400. Photo stacking using 6 focus points, and exposure bracketing. PP in CR-CS6, Topaz, and Nik.
 
 
Frenchman Lake Dawn- 6/19

7/15/2013 4:44:09 AM

  No more for me in June after the 19th, and none so far in July, but I didn't enter every day.

7/15/2013 5:07:03 AM

  June 20, FRactured Jellies :-)

7/15/2013 10:32:40 PM

  June 21, Painted Lady & Coreopsis

7/15/2013 10:33:33 PM

 
 
 
6/21

7/16/2013 3:01:18 AM

  6/22..Landscape.. Follow The Fences

7/18/2013 3:26:39 PM

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  Floating
Floating
 
 
Again. Not sure when I entered this...

7/18/2013 6:36:08 PM

  Summer Solstice 6/22 :-)

7/19/2013 5:45:48 AM

  Seems I've hit a brick wall for both June and July!

7/19/2013 6:27:48 AM

 
 
  Notes in Nature
Notes in Nature
F11, 1/60, 18-55mm vr nikkor @42mm, iso400, natural light w/fill flash.

Monthly Theme: June 22, 2013

 
 
6/22 entered in the monthly category Contrast.

7/19/2013 7:47:47 AM

  Me too, 2 ep's for June, none for July. I haven't been entering much. Not a lot of fun anymore.

7/19/2013 7:49:24 AM

  Fun is what you make it.... :-)

7/19/2013 7:53:33 AM

  Not if your friends don't want you to play anymore, Bob. :(

7/19/2013 8:47:36 AM

  My cup is ALWAYS half full... :-)

7/19/2013 9:10:36 AM

  Bob, you're still on a high from your POTD- give it a little more time! ; )

7/19/2013 10:11:17 AM

  6/23..Catch All.. Calm Waters

7/20/2013 2:50:01 PM

  6/24.. T/P.. Blue Ridge Parkway Overlook

7/20/2013 4:48:02 PM

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BetterPhoto.com Photo Contest Finalist
 
Prelude to SuperMoon
Prelude to SuperMoon
 
 
Not sure when this was entered also...

7/20/2013 4:52:50 PM

  Looks like Carolyn is on a roll?.. :-)

7/20/2013 4:58:35 PM

  Fried Green Tomatoes
6/24/2013
Catch-All

7/20/2013 5:13:59 PM

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  Prim and Proper
Prim and Proper
 
 
6/23 Animals

7/20/2013 5:48:47 PM

  Still nothing after 6/19 for me : (

7/20/2013 7:01:29 PM

 
 
  Peek-a-Boo
Peek-a-Boo
Unknown bug hanging out in a daylilly. F6.3, 1/160, Nikkor 50mm prime, natural light.

Details and macro: June 24, 2013

 
 
Got this yesterday, I think

7/21/2013 3:18:56 AM

  6/25 Nature and Landscapes

Across the Olympics

7/21/2013 5:30:03 AM

  6/25 Mojave Desert Supermoon

7/21/2013 11:23:06 AM

  6/26 Theme

Double Play

7/21/2013 11:54:29 AM

  6/26..T/P..Canadian River Overlook
6/27..Landscape..Look Ma, No Lens Flare

7/21/2013 12:30:21 PM

  His House
6/27/2013
Catch-All

And that concludes my June EP's! :-)

7/21/2013 1:13:52 PM

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  Mulberry Texture
Mulberry Texture
 
  A Trexler Sunset
A Trexler Sunset
 
  Floaters
Floaters
 
 
Another sunset in PA for EFP

7/21/2013 2:27:46 PM

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  Basking in the Sunshine
Basking in the Sunshine
 
 
6/25 Details and Macro

6/26 Details and Macro
Monarch

7/21/2013 3:00:34 PM

  6/26 One Jelly :-)

7/21/2013 3:34:40 PM

 
 
  Dragonfly
Dragonfly
F7.1, 18-55mm Nikkor @36mm, 1/60, iso200, natural light.

Animals: June 26, 2013

 
 
6/25 skipped
6/26 Dragonfly
6\27 Bad Hair Day - Catch All

7/21/2013 4:27:25 PM

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6/28 Details and Macro

7/21/2013 5:53:31 PM

 
 
BetterPhoto.com Photo Contest Finalist
 
Dressed to Frill
Dressed to Frill
F8, 18-55mm Nikkor @46mm w/21mm ext tube, 1/60, iso400.

Flowers: June 28, 2013

 
 
6/28 Flowers

7/21/2013 7:07:24 PM

  6/28..DD.. Wind In The Wildflowers
6/29..Skipped
6/30..Landscape..Five Feet High And Rising

7/22/2013 2:31:41 AM

 
 
  A View From The Rocks
A View From The Rocks
F22.0-1/8-E-0.5, ISO 50. Focus stacking and exposure bracketing. PP in CR-CS6, Topaz, Nik, and OnOne. No sharpening.

View from the Nevada side of Lake Tahoe, looking West to California.

 
 
Finally! It has been a dry period!

7/22/2013 5:16:30 AM

  6/30 A Happy Cactus! 10 for June, better the May :-)

7/22/2013 9:20:53 AM

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  Tiny Bubble
Tiny Bubble
 
 
6/30 Details and Macro

7/22/2013 11:16:08 AM

  Looks like my 29th and 30th have been skipped. That would put my EPs at 6 out of 10 for June. I'm very happy with the 6 tho. Am crossing my fingers for a Finalist!!

7/22/2013 12:31:58 PM

  Good average, Susan - 60% is pretty darned good these days. I stand at 50% myself (2 entries/1 EP.)

7/22/2013 2:51:54 PM

  Kathy, you must contain yourself with loading soooo many images for one month! :-) I'm also at 50% 12 images with 6EP's!

7/22/2013 3:10:59 PM

  Looks like 10 out of 19 or just over 60%. Can't complain, really. It just looked bleak for most of the month until the powers that be got busy or got through with May.... So far only three for July. Good luck to all on being awarded a finalist.

7/23/2013 4:18:30 AM

  I got 9 EPs out of 11 entries. Now I guess it's time to start watching the July thread... :-)

7/23/2013 7:03:08 AM

  19 out of 30 for me. If they still have a lot of rounds left to go through, we may be looking at the end of the month again.

7/23/2013 7:09:22 AM

  9 out of 12-75%. I'm satisfied with that, hoping for at least one finalist.

7/23/2013 7:21:07 AM

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  17 out of maybe 27... I lost track. A lot better than last month!

7/23/2013 12:52:58 PM

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  Not as good as many of you - 13 out of 30 for me.

7/23/2013 1:31:25 PM

  10 out of 24 entered...:-)

7/27/2013 1:23:18 PM

  July 5, Nature and Landscapes

Swamp Light

7/28/2013 6:12:42 PM

  The Finalists List is published. Congratulations to those who received a Silver.

http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGall2.asp?catID=57767

7/30/2013 3:06:30 AM

  5 for me this time. I like it!

7/30/2013 3:15:11 AM

  Congratulations to all the finalists.

I had 19 editors picks but no finalists this time.

7/30/2013 3:42:39 AM

 
 
BetterPhoto.com Photo Contest Finalist
 
Rusted Rim
Rusted Rim
 
 
2 finalists for me! : )

Optical Illusion (#13901677)
http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGall2.asp?catID=57767

Rusted Rim (#13960629)
http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGall2.asp?catID=57767

7/30/2013 3:48:27 AM

 
 
BetterPhoto.com Photo Contest SECOND PLACE Winner
 
Optical Illusion
Optical Illusion
One of the four beautiful Zebras at the Maryland Zoo.
 
 
Optical Illusion

7/30/2013 3:50:02 AM

  OK... what am I looking at incorrectly?

I was in the midst of writing comments on the June 2013 Finalists and just noticed that one was entered (with comments to show for it) in March 2013 and another one for a May 2013 entry.

Just to check further, another is for August 2011.

On these three, there are comments posted no later than the dates stated (like if these were re-entered, wouldn't there still be some current comments?)

7/30/2013 3:55:34 AM

  Not if they entered from their gallery. They would be in the back, and nobody would be likely to see them for comments.

7/30/2013 4:17:57 AM

  I'm guessing then that people are re-entering images that got POTDs and EPs (and possibly Finalists) from 2008,9, 10, and 11. Doing that is now against the Rules - beginning July 1st, right? This is just getting way too confusing.

7/30/2013 5:17:54 AM

  2 Finalists out of 10 EPs for me.

7/30/2013 5:56:53 AM

  Two finalists out of 6 EP's! I'm very grateful!

7/30/2013 6:08:52 AM

  Congrats to all the Finalists! First one for me since February, I think, so that's nice.

Kathy, if they are re entries from previous years, then they would have been entered during June, before the new rule. I think. Lol.

7/30/2013 6:33:20 AM

  Susan's right, Kathy. The new rule was not announced until July - and I'm thinking not until July 2.

7/30/2013 7:07:05 AM

  It was just so weird, seeing all these images from so many back years with no new comments - until the Finalists this morning. I can see now why that was. Thanks for the explanations.

7/30/2013 8:21:44 AM

  3 finalists out of 9 EPs out of 11 entries... :-)

Good luck to all, and, way to go, Joannie!

7/30/2013 8:29:00 AM

  Congrats to all you finalists! Wahoo Joannie :-)I got 2 also. I was about ready to give up...:-)

7/30/2013 11:02:47 PM

  Bob, you've become a real cheerleader, thank you for your support and push! :-)

Jill, you should always get a finalist on all of your images and then some! :-)

7/30/2013 11:32:06 PM

  Hi All,

First of all... HUGE congratulations to all the outstanding June finalists and all the best in the next round.

I hate to bring this up during our celebration time and on this EFP link but I'm taking a break from BetterPhoto and I need your help for changes while I'm away.

Has anyone else noticed the changes to a finalist, second place winner and I assume first place and grand prize winners pages?

I don't know if it is the same thing Bob mentioned or not.

Here's an example:

>Contrast of Colors

If you don't like the change would you please notify BettrPhoto and ask them to change it?

Here is the message I wrote to them this morning which explains it a little better and my feelings about it:

Hi BetterPhoto staff,

I don't like the new feature where you have added a link on the same line as my title of a finalist or second place winner.

You've placed it in front of my description and it takes people away from my description page.

I put a lot of time and thought to describe the image and you have added a link to your home page which advertises for you trying to attract new people to the contest.

It is advertising for you and I have marked I don't want advertising.

Would you please consider changing this as I feel it is unfair & unattractive?

Please try to find another way to do this.

Thank you in advance,
Sharon

7/31/2013 7:42:34 AM

  I hadn't noticed that yet, Sharon, but I don't like it, either. Even if they were to put a break and space in so the link was centered under the badge and then the description was clearly separate, it would be better IMO. I just started a new discussion for these changes as I have a couple I don't like myself. If you have time, could you repost this there?
Latest changes to BP website

7/31/2013 8:17:24 AM

  I'm not seeing that link on my finalists or winners. But I have the basic gallery with the classic view so maybe it doesnt show on those?

7/31/2013 8:38:18 AM

  I can see it when I access the finalists by going to Contests - Contests - Finalists. But I cannot see it when I access my own Finalists through my gallery. I have the basic gallery with the classic view, too - and I hope they never take away the option to choose that :)

7/31/2013 8:49:35 AM

  Good Morning Nikki and Susan,

Nikki we were both posting at the same time... great minds think a like LOL You know the rest? Fools seldom differ :) I posted on your thread... please post your dicussion on mine.

Susan, check out this page of yours as it shows up there...

http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGallDetailMember.asp?photoID=13397967&catID=&camID=&zulu=&contestCatID=

So it on both basic & classic. I don't know about pros and deluxe.

7/31/2013 8:49:43 AM

  Nikki, I just went to your photo ( not through contest) and then read discussion and clicked on the photo to make it larger and this is what appears:

http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGallDetailMember.asp?photoID=13397967&catID=&camID=&zulu=&contestCatID=

I now need to go eat some breakfast and get over these BetterPhoto distractions because I don't need these disturbing changes to take up anymore of my precious time and energy. After all... will it really matter in a hundred years? :) :) :)

HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYONE!!!

7/31/2013 9:00:39 AM

  Jay at BP is working on fixing the glitches I mentioned earlier. I'm so impressed and grateful for his speedy response to my email this morning. I sure didn't expect him to be on it so quickly. He has made one change already but I have requested he look at it from our point of view and to make further changes. I will keep you all posted when they are fixed.

7/31/2013 11:27:49 AM

  A big Congrats to all the June Winners! All gorgeous images :-) Interesting to notice at least 2 resubmitted images in the winners circle...

7/31/2013 9:51:07 PM

  Yes, a HUGE congratulations to all those that won an award for the month of June. To those that won Gold, Silver, an EFP or Participated, you are all winners in my books. You inspire me every day with your brilliant images! Keep up the good work!!! This is definitely the place to learn & grow in your photography.

HAPPY SHOOTING EVERYONE!!!

7/31/2013 10:28:44 PM

  I'm having trouble keeping up with all the Winners (and Finalists) lately and this week is about the same. Congratulations to all of you who have made the Lists. There are so many wonderful images among them.

7/31/2013 11:05:06 PM

  Congrats everyone!!!!!

8/1/2013 3:57:18 AM

  Kara said hers was in the previous month and didn't get an EP..Are you listening, BP??? Where were the professional photographers who look at every single image that month??

8/1/2013 5:56:13 AM

  Two Finalists- no winners : ( It' been 2 years since I got a Gold-I'm tired of being a bridesmaid!

8/1/2013 7:27:13 AM

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  I hear you Nancy. I started with BP 1 year ago and no gold. It's tough for me to figure what they want.

8/1/2013 11:27:46 AM

  Ken, you nailed it down: 'what they want'... by looking at their choices month after month, even though the 'usual suspects' are always in (with gorgeous images, don't get me wrong) the others (us, in the majority) are always turning around the pot, I'd say, with no clear pattern as a guide. For me it's been around 2 years in BP, 12 finalists and 1 gold. However, my preferred shots never made it, and I'm left with a major question: why this image (my own), and not this other one? I've put down in all the surveys I responded to that I'd like to see some overall explanation from the judges on at least the big prize...Unfortunately they focus on peripheral changes; but the good news is that I'm still a passionate image maker and collector... and will keep shooting regardless :)
Beatriz

8/1/2013 3:31:13 PM

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  Hello, my name is Jayne..and I'm addicted to BP... lol I've been a member since 2007. I have a love/hate relationship with it!! BP is not the end all/be all experts. I've had ONE, count em' ONE WINNER since 2007. I don't consider myself a bad photographer, just a photographer who LOVES to shoot! I still participate in the contest from time to time and appreciate all the fine, inspiring images, but face it, we all need a strong shell when we present our art - or just don't present. Just b/c BP doesn't "like" your photos doesn't mean some other contest won't! A photo of mine got passed up from BP only to find a home in the Smithsonian contest (photo of day) and there are countless other local contests out there! SO, I salute all the photographers on this site, some of the best I've seen! Spread your wings. I have learned so much from BP, as well as making friendships, 2 I would consider e-mailing with news (if I had any, lol), you know who you are. Won't name names b/c don't know if I'll get a backlash from this! Happy shooting!

8/1/2013 11:16:12 PM

  Thank you, Jayne, for your uplifting reality check. BP uses their contest to pull in new customers just like other sites, so you will take their courses. It is business practice. After this recent incarnation of their site, I quit taking it personally. I do not think that they will ever tell you who the judges are or reveal why they passed your photo up. That may unleash some arguments, and do some damage to their business. I belong to a wonderful BP club, which keeps me at BP, but I am going to branch out next year to some other sites, which will give my photos a wider public view. It is also fairly easy to set up your own copyright, and everyone should take advantage of that when you venture out.

8/2/2013 5:53:00 AM

  Good morning everyone,

Regarding my earlier post on the new blue link under our photos with Finalists or Gold badges I said I would keep you posted on what I came up with.

Well here it is... the blue links are staying.

I'm apposed to it but have been told we will have to agree to disagree on this matter.

I found out not all members object to it as much as I do and others would like it on a separate line.

Oh well, I tried... Win some! Lose some!

I hope they fix the other glitches for everyone.

So I'm signing off on this one.

CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN TO ALL THE OUTSTANDING JUNE WINNERS & FINALISTS!!! I would love to congratulate each and everyone personally but that is impossible for me to do.

Just know... You are the best in the world... (by BetterPhoto standards)

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!

8/2/2013 8:20:17 AM

  Thanks, Jayne, for the perspective and the longtime support. If I'm not on your short list, please put me there :)

8/2/2013 8:35:50 AM

  Hi again,

I'm taking a break from BetterPhoto but I just can't keep my big nose out of things and have to leave some parting words & share my feedback on earlier comments.

I may not be qualified to give advice but I do have an opinion and I do want to help others with their concerns.

ABOUT WINNING GOLD:

I opened my gallery in April 2007 and was afraid to enter a photo for a whole year as I didn't think I was good enough.

In April 2008, I entered my first 3 photos and received 2 EFPs and a lucky Finalist in my first month. I was blown away!

Well I was hooked from then on and for the first few years entered every day and studied photography where ever & when ever I could. I took a community Photoshop course in which I forgot half of but continue experimenting with and reading about it. Post processing is very important as well as knowing your camera.

In the BP site somewhere Jim explains how to tweak your photos for the internet as it different than that for printing. In the forums there is advice as well, you just have to look for it. Read the articles BP offer for free as they are full of valuable information.

If you look at the beginning of my gallery my images were just so so, some pathetic, but I had potential and I had a burning desire to be good at something I loved.

I studied the photos on BP to see what the winners were doing. I read everything I could get my hands on as there is plenty of free information and tutorials on the internet on how to shoot a good photo.

The courses at BetterPhoto are highly recommended although I can not afford them for myself.

From the day of my first entries in April 2008, and after 3 LONG years and 4 LONG months, TO MY SURPRISE, I received my first GOLD Second Place Winner in August 2011. Hallelujah! :) :0 :)

I have yet to receive the coveted GOLD First Place or Grand Prize Win. But I know in my heart if I keep working at it, I will some day win one of those as well. I plan on living another 25 years so the odds are pretty good & in my favor. LOL. One thing I know... I am persistent and that helps in photography. As well, I may out live the ones who are winning them now :) There is always that possibility. LOL

So please don't be hard on yourselves or discouraged, the GOLD will come. Just keep shooting as often as you can, study what the winners are doing and have fun with it. Shoot what you love!

Remember many photos have been passed by the first, second and third time by BetterPhoto judges ONLY to win GOLD later. Seeing we can't resubmit anymore... rework that favorite photo and try again.

Be honest with yourself and try to look at your images as others might do. You're right in asking questions & asking to be critiqued by other members.

How many times did Babe Ruth NOT hit a home run and how many mistakes did it take Edison until he invented the light bulb? How about Henry Ford? Great things take time and hard work. Being in the right place at the right time helps very much too... call it what you may... for myself it's a divine intervention.

Some horses are out of the starting gate fast but they don't always win the race at the end. Sometimes that long shot just tries a little harder, the conditions are right and he ends up in the winner's circle.

The winners know that photography is "Painting with Light" and the very best shoot in the golden hour and use the rule of thirds, know their equipment AND they use a tripod. (Three out of four I am guilty of NOT doing. LOL)

They take courses, go out on photo shoots with other photographers and learn from each other. That is why the clubs here are so important in which has been mentioned above.

Be patient with yourself and with BetterPhoto and if you do the work... they will come.

The great Wayne Gretzky says, "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take." So what are you waiting for.. get out there and get shooting. :)

Hope this was of some help to the newer members... you'll learn the ropes just hang in there!

Now I'm out of here for a communication sabbatical and I wish you all the very best. See you in September.

HAVE A GREAT SUMMER EVERYONE, GOD BLESS AND HAPPY SHOOTING!!!

8/2/2013 8:58:13 AM

  For my first post today...

My mistake... no spell check ... opposed not apposed :)

8/2/2013 9:09:05 AM

  Great advice for all of us, Sharon.

8/2/2013 9:29:09 AM

  +1 Sharon!

8/2/2013 1:14:30 PM

  Well said, Sharon! Enjoy your sabbatical!

8/2/2013 2:01:51 PM

  Sharon you said it all! Thank you!
Enjoy your break everyone should take one every now and then.

8/3/2013 8:36:50 PM

  July 6, skip

July 7, Animals

Service Dog

8/4/2013 5:35:27 AM

  June 7 and 8.. :-)

8/5/2013 10:17:48 AM

  Make that July....

8/5/2013 10:18:56 AM

  Bob, is that 2013 or 2014? :-)

8/5/2013 10:55:40 AM

  Hey all - there is a July thread. Are we missing you there? :)

8/5/2013 12:27:11 PM

  Whoops, didn't see a July link. I'll go find it now. :)

8/5/2013 12:46:21 PM

  I'm very excited. My zebra photo in my comment above won 1st place in the Animals (no pets) category at the Maryland State Fair.

8/29/2013 2:23:14 PM

  Melissa, that's fantastic! Congratulations! We might be in competition next year ;)

So, are you close to Baltimore? I'm about an hour south of DC, but from the Baltimore area (hon) lol.

8/29/2013 5:16:56 PM

  Thanks Susan! And I don't mind a little competition. ; ) I live in Baltimore County. I'm about 25 minutes outside of the city.

8/29/2013 6:52:37 PM

  Very cool - I love that image - the essence of zebra. Congratulations, Melissa!

8/29/2013 6:58:51 PM

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  72 .  May Countdown Thread
Well, well, well...time got away from me. First, I was counting the days until the 15th so I could start this thread, and then, suddenly, I realize, I'm late! Ooops! Sorry, all. Summer has officially started here (no more school for the kids) and that means company, sleepovers, and just lots of general busy stuff for this Mama.

I see that they have picked up the pace on handing out the May EPs, so I hope that means they are busy at work prepping to pick the finalists and winners.

It's nice and toasty here in Texas, so I guess I'll grab a cool beverage and start waiting for results. Fingers crossed for us all!

Helpful hints for attaching photos into Forum Threads:
1) Sign into BP completely (name + password.)
2) If you have NOT YET entered the Contest today, you can use the "Photo ID" to pull an existing image from your Member Center into your reply to this thread (avoiding a duplicate image upload.) Get the Photo ID# from your Member Center, come to back this thread, click Respond, enter the text of your reply, then choose "1" from the images-to-attach drop-down. Click Submit; at the next screen populate the "Photo ID" box at the right. Skip the other fields on that screen.
3) If you HAVE ALREADY entered the Contest today before replying to this thread, you can't use the Photo ID method today. You can either wait until tomorrow to reply here (before your new Contest entry!) or, upload a new copy of the particular image (from your PC) into this thread. This produces a duplicate image in your Member Center; however, you don't have to make that duplicate visible in your Gallery.
4) If you're uploading a duplicate, maybe title it "For Forum" so it stands out in your Member Center, for easier housecleaning later... This can help direct viewers to find the original image in your gallery, when they want to leave a comment. Likewise, if you want to add a comment to a photo seen here, try to tell if it is a duplicate upload. As a courtesy, try to find the original image in the member's gallery and leave your comment there instead of on the duplicate---that way, if the duplicate is deleted later, the comment history isn't lost.

Good luck everyone!!!

6/17/2013 1:30:20 PM

 
 
 
May had some new entries and quite a few resubs. I'm tempted to pick my same favorite from last month (it really is one of my favorites of my baby girl), but...

instead, I'll try this re-edit of an older image of Kate. I can't believe this same little girl is now the teenager I have who likes to sleep late, and is starting to take lots of pics just like Mama.

6/17/2013 1:33:01 PM

 
 
 
May had some new entries and quite a few resubs. I'm tempted to pick my same favorite from last month (it really is one of my favorites of my baby girl), but...

instead, I'll try this re-edit of an older image of Kate. I can't believe this same little girl is now the teenager I have who likes to sleep late, and is starting to take lots of pics just like Mama.

oh, and my May entries are bookmarked by pics of my daughter starting with "My Dreamer" and going through "daydreams"

6/17/2013 1:34:57 PM

  Well, I think I only ended up with 2 EPs for the month, so I'm not sure my odds are too good (who know, really). Good luck everyone!

6/17/2013 3:43:59 PM

Christopher J. Budny
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  Transition
Transition
Inside the narrow sandstone slot canyons, the color transitions ranged from
shadowy purple-blues down low, to hot, sunlit orange-yellows up high;
combined with the undulating, carved shapes and forms, it was all beautiful and fascinating!
 
 
A tough one to pick... What was perhaps my top most-hopeful/favorite from my May entries was actually skipped over for an EP, so there's not much point in hoping it will go on... ;)
In that case, another favorite (from about 3 or 4 others I'm really crossing all my fingers on!) is this slot canyon wall shot.
Best of luck to everyone in the May results!

6/19/2013 5:38:42 AM

  It should be easy to pick one when you have just a few, but it isn't, as usual, so I won't.

6/19/2013 6:52:53 AM

Christopher J. Budny
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They appear to be "going back" for a final check of May images - 3 of my previously-skipped images for early May, picked up EP's in the last 2 days (well after June EP's began appearing.) Including the skipped one I just really, really loved... so I'm adding it here -- hopefully no jinx! ;)

6/21/2013 5:41:39 AM

 
 
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o v e r f l o w e t h
o v e r f l o w e t h

Thanks for looking!

~Catch All~

 
 
HI again everyone... such a strange month for EP's... Now we wait and see how it all plays out with the finalists...:)

Good luck everyone!

Here's my fav. for May.

6/21/2013 8:25:50 AM

 
 
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Kelena-May  26
Kelena-May 26
Kelena a beautiful young lady that won the Amelia Earhart scholarship.

She has her private pilot license and the scholarship will pay for her instrument rating.

We got the privilege to use an airplane similar to what Amelia might have flown for our photo shoot.

WE had so much fun and got some wonderful images for the magazine and for the Amelia Earhart museum.

 
 
My favorite for the month of May is of a young lady Kelena. She received the Amelia Earhart Scholarship. She has her private pilot license but the scholarship will pay for her instrument rating.

The photo's I took will be in the Amelia Earhart museum and the 99 magazine.

She was fun to shoot.

6/21/2013 1:06:43 PM

 
 
  Ruffled
Ruffled
Peony from my garden. F11, 18-55mm vr nikkor @34mm, 1/320, iso400, ambient light (outdoors overcast).

Flowers: May 21, 2013

 
 
A weird month for me. "Stuff" kept my entries at 8, with 4 EPs and that includes 1 showing up in the last 24 hrs. So, here is my shot in the dark ;) Good luck to all!

6/22/2013 6:56:07 AM

  Shoot, I again forgot to enter my favorite here before entering the contest. Hoping to put my entry here before the Finalist are announced, which should be pretty soon, since it is already 26 of June here.

UB.

6/25/2013 7:54:47 PM

  Sadly, I forgot again today.
Where are the Finalists, three more days till month's end!! Maybe the judges are waiting for me to post here, LOL. Lets see who makes it first.

My favorite this month is the accidental capture of the parrots in Australia. Its titled "21 Galahs".

In case, you would like to take a peek at my May entries, they start from "Dream World-II" on page 2 to "Lying Low" on page 3.

Good luck to all in the May contest.

UB.

6/27/2013 1:43:02 AM

  I have been so busy this last month that I did not keep track of what I entered last month - I know I got few EFP's - just have to wait until finalists come out and will post it here if I get one! Good luck everyone!

6/27/2013 7:56:55 AM

 
 
  Paris is for Lovers
Paris is for Lovers
a typical street scene in paris from a different angle
 
 
i have no idea with the way the judging is going so I am going to throw this pic out there

6/27/2013 1:29:44 PM

  June EPs have started up again.
Hopefully finalist are coming soon!

6/27/2013 5:32:16 PM

  Friday afternoon, the 28th of a 30 day month and no contest results yet ... I'm hitting the chocolate now.
My good friends Ben & Jerry may visit later.

6/28/2013 1:05:55 PM

 
 
  Sweetness and Light
Sweetness and Light

Photo of the Day - June 17, 2013

Pink daisy, high key. Basic adjustments in CS5.
 
 
My fave for May.
Hey Usman, can you help us out here? I think they're waiting for you to post your favorite ... :)

6/29/2013 8:22:47 AM

Christopher J. Budny
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  Finalists came out last night---congratulations, everyone!
I had to chuckle---the 6/19 comment I made here initially, about a favorite being skipped for EP---then a later comment on 6/21, when that image actually got an EP, "late"---that image was one of my 5 to make Finalist! Woohoo!

6/30/2013 7:59:16 AM

  Four for me this time ...
Congrats to all finalists and best of luck in the next round!

6/30/2013 8:03:31 AM

  4 for me, too.

6/30/2013 8:31:31 AM

 
 
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A Little Bit of Sweetness
A Little Bit of Sweetness
 
 
1 for me. And unexpected too.

6/30/2013 9:16:58 AM

 
 
 
Two for me, also unexpected but the gosling is one of my favorites!

6/30/2013 9:26:20 AM

 
 
 
Two for me, also unexpected but the gosling is one of my favorites!

6/30/2013 9:26:36 AM

 
 
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Ahhh Spring!
Ahhh Spring!
Canada Goose Gosling. First gosling photograph of the season. Luckily the parents were fairly tolerant, they can be quite aggressive. I love that Canada Geese share parenting duties.
 
 
Trying again to post the images.

6/30/2013 9:27:17 AM

 
 
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Marsh Wren
Marsh Wren
I seem to be running into these little guys a lot these days. You can hear them everywhere and if you sit patiently, they will hop up out of the reeds for a quick portrait pose.
 
 
And the second...

6/30/2013 9:28:29 AM

  Has anyone noticed that some of the finalists are from 2009? I do not think they were resubs, as all responses on these photos were dated in 2009, EXCEPT those of the Judges. Seems that possibly there were not as many photos as we are told to judge in each category, and they are going back to fill their Quotas for each category-hmmm, a real mystery!

6/30/2013 3:26:03 PM

Christopher J. Budny
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  I suspect you're seeing resubs. You'd be surprised how far back some folks go in their archives, especially if they don't have new material ready. I think I've resubbed from 2+ years back, in the past.

6/30/2013 4:19:42 PM

Ken Smith
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  Nancy, I agree with Chris. Lots of people resub from years ago, as do I. That's why you don't see new comments, because most likely, these photos are not towards the front of the member's galleries, and they don't show up in the front pages of the "New Contest" entries. If someone did get a surprise finalist from years ago, please chime in.

6/30/2013 4:59:46 PM

  Well, I guess we won't have to worry about re-submits anymore. New rule email says only able to enter an image once.

7/1/2013 2:16:52 PM

  Can somebody post that email with the new rule? My new fancy email system got away from me and it got deleted before I got a chance to read it.

7/1/2013 2:27:22 PM

  RULES CHANGE:
I also wanted to let you know that, as of today, we're not going to allow re-entry of photos. Only enter a photo once. When you go to enter again and again (which we encourage), use different photos.

The intention of the contest is to help us all get out creating more often. Every single photo is examined by more than one of our pro judges; if your great photo doesn't make it to the final rounds, don't allow yourself to feel bad about it. Just take it to mean the competition was steep...and BE INSPIRED to keep trying, with different photos.

My dream is to see your photography get better and better, and to see you continue to have a great time making great photos.

Keep up the awesome shooting and thanks again for the inspiration!

Thanks,
Jim

7/1/2013 2:38:21 PM

  Well, if that's not the biggest bunch of bull crap, I don't know what would qualify. They leave half of the people's excellent work without even an EP and then tell them they can't try again. I can't even believe my eyes on that one!

7/1/2013 4:13:25 PM

  Wow, I'm not sure what to think about the "rule change" on resubs. Scratching my head as to how it helps us "get out and create more often" unless there have been a fair amount of members entering the same images again and again each month. So many that bp decided they needed to stop it?

7/1/2013 5:46:12 PM

Christopher J. Budny
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  Certainly by saying "we prefer that you enter new material!" that would hopefully nudge folks to continue shooting new stuff, vs searching their archives of previously-entered favorites that never won. So I think there's definitely a nudge built-in there, that some members will take upon themselves to up their game and produce more/new/different stuff.

I still face the problem of emotional attachment to my images (which has a built-in danger for anyone entering their art into any judged contest!) -- and that attachment is especially strong when I produce an image I really, really love (vs. all the rest that I really, really like! {grin}) I would definitely be inclined to resubmit, when a beloved image doesn't go anywhere in the contest... And I have done that, certainly!

But to Jim's point, how does that emotional attachment, and my resulting resubmits of increasing "old" images, help my photography grow or change, if I just end up resubmitting stuff, endlessly? (OK, I never took it that far, to be what I'd call "endlessly" resubmitting my images... but sure, I've resubmitted plenty, spread out over the years! In fact, I've got a spreadsheet of every entry I ever made, over 7 years, and 23% of my "medals" came on a resubmit.)

Susan, I will say that, in my personal opinion, the April & May entries seemed to have a much, much higher percentage of overall resubmits from BP Members than I was used to seeing, and, what seemed to include many more direct resubmits of past Finalists and/or Winners... (I've not adopted that approach before; if I land a Finalist or a Win, that image is done in the BP contest, as far as I'm concerned. Unless I found a major flaw in the first version, after the fact, that I think warrants a re-edit and new entry.)

7/1/2013 6:16:58 PM

Don Holland
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  Some of my best work, if not my best, is suddenly ineligible. I won't always be able to "Just take it to mean the competition was steep..." when several of my winners are resubmits. I understand that the level of competition can vary from month to month, but I have had an editor's pick one month jump to first or second place on a resubmit another month. The photo didn't change, but it appears the judging did.

A reasonable rule of limiting resubmits to one or two each month would allow for and help redress any inconsistencies in judging. A stern rule of no resubmits, coming from unlimited resubmits, is certainly easier for BP, but it is very disappointing to me.

7/1/2013 6:47:58 PM

  Chris, your number crunching always amazes me! I also suspect there was a larger than usual number of resubs in April and May. After all, most of us have felt a bit confused as to the judging with the efp and timing changes. We saw many entries that would have previously garnered an efp amd I have no doubt many of those got resubmitted. I think I resubbed two (and neither got an efp the second time either). As to resubbing a finalist or winner I've never done that either. I'm guessimg they were seeing way too mamy, imcludimg past finalists and winners.

7/2/2013 3:17:22 AM

  The thing that bothers me the most I guess, is the way EP's are now being done. For example, I entered a photo on May 10th that did not get an EP (or so I thought) because entries WAY past the 10th did have EP's. I just assumed this particular photo had been skipped so I re-entered it in June. After I had re-entered this pic in June, it then turns up with an EP and I assumed because I got the EP in June that it was for June! I then received a finalist. I now have a pic that got a finalist for May in the June contest! People are going to think I'm crazy but I promise I thought the photo had been skipped. I just wish the EP's weren't so far behind and so out of order. I hope at least part of this rant made sense. LOL

7/2/2013 9:53:31 AM

Christopher J. Budny
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  You're not crazy, and it made sense to me---Because EXACTLY that same scenario happened to me in May, too---image skipped for EP---even so late that my June 1 entry got an EP. So I (wrongfully) assumed May EP review was done. Thus I re-submitted it (it is an image I love!) into June. Then, it got a May EP (as did 3 other May skips)---then it got a May Finalist this past weekend!

So now one of my June entries is in fact an unintentional re-entry of a May Finalist... My first-ever "resubmit of a Finalist"---and it was accidental!

7/2/2013 10:04:35 AM

  It's good to know that I'm not the only one this happened to and that I'm not crazy! LOL

7/2/2013 11:07:11 AM

  It happened to me as well! I got really confused...

I am ok not re-entering images. There was a follow up email that says that if an image is "substantially" re-worked it can be considered a "new" image.

7/2/2013 8:44:11 PM

  I was away for work the last week.

CONGRATZ to all the Finalists and Winners of May Contest. WTG!!

UB.

7/3/2013 1:11:26 AM

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  73 .  gift course
I was given a gift certificate for a course, which is good for a year. Because of health problems, I have not taken advantage of the gift, and the year is almost up. Can I extend the gift for a little longer, say six months?

Dan Greenbaum

6/14/2013 2:56:48 PM

  Email support@betterphoto.com. I think you will get a quicker response. They do monitor the QnA, but I don't know how often.

6/14/2013 3:42:55 PM

Dan Greenbaum Greenbaum

member since: 10/29/2010
  Thank you for your good advice.

6/16/2013 1:11:17 PM

  Hi Dan,
Sorry to hear of your health problems and also for any confusion.

Good news! You have more time than you thought. Here's the correct information from the BetterPhoto Gift Card page: "Gift Cards can be used up to 5 years from the date of purchase."

Thanks for following up on this, and best wishes for a speedy recovery!
Kerry


P.S. Thanks, Carolyn, for your input.

6/17/2013 10:39:20 PM

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  74 .  Galleries
Why can't I find an option on this site to update my galleries? I want to add new galleries based on trips taken, etc.

6/2/2013 7:55:41 AM

  Hi Peggi. Click on My Member Center at the top of the screen and on the left side you will see BP Gallery. Click on that and then look for Photo Albums on the left side. Click on that and at the top is an option to create a new album. Hope this helps.
Philip

6/2/2013 7:16:32 PM

Christopher J. Budny
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  Hi Peggi;
If you're talking about adding albums/categories to your BP Pro or BP Deluxe website, you do go to Member Center as Philip suggested - but then look for "Admin Center" on the left. Click that, then from the 6 tab choices across the top, choose "Photos" - within that menu, choose "Create/Update Photo Categories."

6/3/2013 7:29:03 AM

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  75 .  April 2013 Countdown Thread
Happy Mid-May everyone! I know we've all been wondering what's going on with EPs (or lack of them) and I'm just hoping it's that they are busy looking through everything from April. So, here's our opportunity to pick our hopefuls. I'm on a diet, so I guess the alcohol and chocolate aren't really what I should be eating - but, boy do they sound delicious! If everyone could please have a drink and eat some chocolate for me, I would greatly appreciate it! Be sure to tell me what you had so I can properly adjust my envy.

I can't wait to see your hopefuls/favorites! Remember, the hints below ONLY work if you have NOT entered yet on the day you share on this thread.

Helpful hints for attaching photos into Forum Threads:
1) Sign into BP completely (name + password.)
2) If you have NOT YET entered the Contest today, you can use the "Photo ID" to pull an existing image from your Member Center into your reply to this thread (avoiding a duplicate image upload.) Get the Photo ID# from your Member Center, come to back this thread, click Respond, enter the text of your reply, then choose "1" from the images-to-attach drop-down. Click Submit; at the next screen populate the "Photo ID" box at the right. Skip the other fields on that screen.
3) If you HAVE ALREADY entered the Contest today before replying to this thread, you can't use the Photo ID method today. You can either wait until tomorrow to reply here (before your new Contest entry!) or, upload a new copy of the particular image (from your PC) into this thread. This produces a duplicate image in your Member Center; however, you don't have to make that duplicate visible in your Gallery.
4) If you're uploading a duplicate, maybe title it "For Forum" so it stands out in your Member Center, for easier housecleaning later... This can help direct viewers to find the original image in your gallery, when they want to leave a comment. Likewise, if you want to add a comment to a photo seen here, try to tell if it is a duplicate upload. As a courtesy, try to find the original image in the member's gallery and leave your comment there instead of on the duplicate---that way, if the duplicate is deleted later, the comment history isn't lost.

Good luck everyone!!!

5/14/2013 9:08:26 PM

 
 
 
Well, not a lot of EP's for me to chose from for April. This one already has a bit of gold, hopefully it will see some more.
If you want to stroll through my April entries, they start with "The Arch", and continue through "Fire Storm"

Good luck everyone!

5/15/2013 5:27:02 AM

Christopher J. Budny
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  Hmmm... tough one this time - My April included 10 days of vacation where I didn't enter anything, then only about 10 new entries and 8 resubs, while I was watching/pondering the change in EP pattern.
I've posted for today, so I'll try to remember to select a favorite from my "lite" April pool of entries, tomorrow!

5/15/2013 5:28:03 AM

 
 
 
Okay, so, here's my favorite for the month. And, if anyone wants to peek, my April entries start with At the Heart and go through Canna (I bookended the entries with some flowers to make it easier). Fingers crossed for us all!

5/15/2013 2:03:18 PM

  Jeff, I do like "Teapot Lake" very much. But, I really love "Trial Lake" and am picking that as my favorite from you this month.

Chris, as usual, your images are all beautiful. I'm really drawn to "Pattern of Decay" and even more intrigued once I read that you took that with your iphone! LOVE IT! Good luck!

5/15/2013 2:17:14 PM

 
 
  The other side of Yarra
The other side of Yarra
Looking across the pedestrian bridge on River Yarra one early morning in Central Melbourne.

Thanks to Renee Doyle for a photo-shoot together and making that day a wonderful memorable experience.

 
 
Thanks Shell for hosting the thread. My favorite is from my Australia's visit in March /April this year.

For anyone interested to peek at my April entries, they start from "Melbourne Gold" on page 2 and terminate with "Out of Place" on page 3.

Good luck to all in the April Contest.

UB.

5/16/2013 1:05:32 AM

Christopher J. Budny
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member since: 10/3/2005
 
 
 
A favorite from my few April new images, and a favorite from my few April resubs... Best of luck to everyone!

5/16/2013 4:10:47 AM

 
 
BetterPhoto.com Photo Contest Finalist
 
Peaceful Pink
Peaceful Pink
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro
f/2.8, 1/125 secs, ISO400, 100mm, polarizer

** re-sub 6/13 Flowers **

 
 
This one was a favorite here on BP and on the other site where I display and share images.

Good luck everyone!

5/16/2013 7:41:55 AM

  tag

5/17/2013 9:10:47 AM

  Not many EPs among them, but mine run from Unfolding on Pg3 to Don't Ya Think I'm Sexy on Pg5

5/17/2013 3:43:38 PM

  Jeff: Crown And Drops
Usman: An Autumn's Sunset (another tough choice)

5/17/2013 3:59:00 PM

 
 
 
Only a few to choose from for me(!), but at least my fave for the month got an EP. So here is my hopeful, entered in Flowers.

And here's some weirdness ... on the last day of the month, I always go to the Contest Entries link in my Member Center and print out my entries for the month. I just noticed that my April printout clearly lists 12 photos, with their info and thumbnails, but the heading says "You have entered 11 photo(s) into the contest this month". Strange. Wonder which one is missing ... :(

5/18/2013 8:35:23 AM

  p.s. ... or maybe they are all properly entered and the counter is just off. I sent the question to BP ...

5/18/2013 8:42:26 AM

  Jeff = I found it hard to decide between "The Arch" and "Balance", so picking two from you.

Chris = "Mother Nature" is just awesome, good luck with this beauty.

Michelle = "Christian" is the one I am picking from your gallery.

Carolyn = I absolutely love "The Car wash"

Martha = Your pick is beautiful, WOW!

Paggy = Wonderful floral capture, good luck.

Good luck to you all.

UB.

5/20/2013 9:15:32 PM

  Just tagging for now. I've done very little in May, just six entries so far. I almost forgot about this thread! I have 11 entries to chose from for April. I've already posted today so I'll post a fav tomorrow. If anyone wants to take a peek at my entries they run from Welcome Mat on pg1 to Sundrenched on pg2.

5/22/2013 7:33:33 PM

  Susan, I really like the color and details in "In the Pink".

UB.

5/22/2013 8:29:22 PM

 
 
  Welcome Mat
Welcome Mat
F11, 1/320, 18-55mm vr nikkor @42mm, iso100, natural light.

Flowers: April 30, 2013

 
 
My fav (Usman, the Gerberas are at the top of my list too :)

5/23/2013 4:37:25 AM

 
 
 
I have one from element of design, one from flowers and one from people that I really like. Hard to pick so I post each of them.

5/23/2013 7:17:41 AM

  You can only post one at time so I just put them on the top of page one in my gallery. There is only one place for a number when you try to add three so just check my port out.

Sorry about that.

The first one is light and shadow. It was taken in Hawaii at our hotel and is a beautiful frame around the waterfall.

The second is of the grandbabies. They close to my heart.

Third is of apple blooms.

5/23/2013 7:31:02 AM

 
 
  Syd
Syd

1/200 Sec - f/8 - ISO 250 - 40mm
Canon 5D Mk III - Canon 24-105mm f/4.0L IS
 
  Trial Lake
Trial Lake

1/4 Sec - f/22 - ISO 160 - 25mm
Canon 1D Mk IV - Canon 16-35mm f/2.8L
 
 
Kerby - it is possible to post multiple images. After putting your first image number in the box, click on submit. When you get to the success page, use your browser's back button to take you back a page. Delete the image number and add the second image number. Hit submit. You can repeat this as many times as you'd like. As long as you don't leave the success page, you should be good.

5/23/2013 8:36:38 AM

 
 
BetterPhoto.com Photo Contest Finalist
 
Garden LIght
Garden LIght
 
 
One of my many favorites for the month of April.

5/23/2013 10:05:11 AM

  I am thinking Tuesday May 18 to be the Finalist announcement date and Winners announced on May 30! Any takers!

UB.

5/25/2013 7:43:41 AM

  oops, read 28 instead of the above-stated '18'.

UB.

5/25/2013 7:46:11 AM

  I'll take the 29th and the 31st! I'm guessing they'll need a day after the long Memorial Day weekend to finish up.

5/25/2013 8:20:57 AM

  April finalists are out!!!

5/26/2013 5:17:19 PM

Paul Coco
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  I had a March entry that did not get an EP which surprised me. I resubmitted the image in April, the first time I have ever done that. Now it is an April Finalist. No EP in March, a Finalist in April!

5/26/2013 7:11:05 PM

Pat Harry
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BetterPhoto.com Photo Contest Finalist
 
Leading Lines
Leading Lines
 
 
Surprisingly, I got one for April. A very pleasant surprise!

5/26/2013 7:17:43 PM

  Got two!!!

5/26/2013 7:29:27 PM

 
 
BetterPhoto.com Photo Contest SECOND PLACE Winner
 
Sincerity
Sincerity

Second Place - Flowers - April 2013

Sunflower in green glass bottle.
Textures from Shadowhouse, other adjustments in CS5.
 
 
Very happy to have one in Flowers this time ... it was my fave.

Congrats to all the awesome finalists, and best of luck in the next round!

5/26/2013 7:30:40 PM

Christopher J. Budny
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  Congratulations to all the Finalists for April!
It has been a long time since I picked a fav of mine in this thread (let alone 2!) and they both went on to Finalist. I about fell out of my chair to find I also had 4 more Finalists waiting!
Of the 6, four were direct resubmits from my gallery - so for those who never consider or try a resubmit, this is yet another example of the value of resubmitting images you really believe in!
Best of luck in the next round!

5/26/2013 7:51:10 PM

  Congratulations everyone! And, yes Chris...resub. All three of my finalists were resins this month. Keep the faith when you believe in an image. Best of luck to all finalists in the next round.

5/26/2013 7:59:36 PM

  Big CONGRATZ to all the Finalists. WTG!!!

I was more than happy to have found five Finalists among my April EPs. April was a rare month for me as I entered all fresh images and none resubs, which I usually do.

Good luck to all in the Golden round!!

UB.

5/26/2013 10:59:16 PM

  Congrats, everyone! Good luck in the next round. Three for me this time around.

5/27/2013 8:02:23 PM

  Winners are out!!!!!!
Congrats to all!
(Very happy to have one in Flowers!)

5/28/2013 8:25:19 PM

  Big CONGRATZ to all the Winners of April contest. WTG!!!

UB.

5/28/2013 8:40:40 PM

  Congratulations to all the beautiful Finalists and Winners for April!!!

5/29/2013 4:09:03 AM

Christopher J. Budny
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  Congratulations to the April winners! My 2nd Place caught me completely by surprise - always a treat!

5/29/2013 9:29:29 AM

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  76 .  logging in problem?
This isn't really a contest question,but there isn't a category for website problems...What is with having to log in every time I visit BP nowadays? I click the box to remember me, yet every time I stop by I now have to log in!? I had to go back to my records to find out what my password was it's been so long since I needed it :-)

5/14/2013 12:18:06 PM

Christopher J. Budny
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  I believe that login information would be stored as a cookie on your PC - so it may be that your browser recently updated itself, or some settings were/got changed, or there was a "clear history" step, etc.? I don't think that feature has much to do with BP's side of things, but I could be wrong.

5/22/2013 9:59:56 AM

JudyAnn Rector
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member since: 11/21/2012
  Well, guys I am having the same problem and it gets very irritating.

5/26/2013 12:55:31 PM

  I did clear my cache both in IE and Firefox and now am not having any problems :-) Once I deleted the cookies, it worked perfectly.

5/30/2013 3:04:49 PM

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Susan M. Smith
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  77 .  May 2013 NO EP Feedback
It seems like lots of folks received a way lower EP count on their April entries :( This is a thread where we can post those contest entries that did not receive an EP that you would like to receive constructive ideas on why and what could be improved on the image.

Please leave feedback on the image here in this thread as many members do not wish to have critique comments directly on the thread of the images. Members may want to upload a "Forum Only" copy of the image to this thread. Please indicate if you'd rather receive critique on that thread.

Helpful links: These are the guidelines BP uses when evaluating/judging images: "How to Win a Photo Contest" (http://www.betterphoto.com/contest/guidelines.asp). Also, reference BP rules for categories: http://www.betterphoto.com/contest/categories.asp

I look forward to everyone's thoughtful and valuable feedback!

5/9/2013 6:39:45 AM

Ken Beatty
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  tagging....

5/9/2013 9:28:51 AM

  tag

5/9/2013 4:21:17 PM

  Susan, as yet, I've not entered anything in May (working on a different photo project that has a deadline.) Might get back to it in about 10 days. It sounds as if there is not hurry anyway. Btw, I went to the Better Photo Page on Facebook; it looks as though BP has disengaged there also (almost all earlier posts have been removed, too.)

5/13/2013 4:36:11 AM

  Facebook: Jim Miotke - Jim is still featuring some Member's photos there on occasion.

5/13/2013 4:39:51 AM

  I looked at the FB page and it seems there is like one guy posting images. At first I thought maybe I found the wrong page :-)

5/13/2013 8:28:07 AM

  John Forrant (?) has been posting pix almost every day along with maybe 3 or 4 others on occasion. However, BP did add some threads. Now, it's as though it's all been deleted except for John's last picture in April.

5/13/2013 8:40:18 AM

  For the 1st time in months, I am attempting to enter some images that have never been on BP and a few radically re-edited ones in May, trying for 31 new ones...... I've been on a bit of a sad run photographically in the past year it seems, life has got in my way... So I have to say it's been a bummer to me that May is the month they seem to have stopped the EP's... I guess we have all become accustomed to knowing which shots go on or have caught their eye... Oh well, as with all other things with BP, change comes and we must adjust...

5/13/2013 12:41:55 PM

JudyAnn Rector
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  I do not understand why some do not want critique comments directly on photo threads? I thought that is what posting and commenting was supposed to be about? I have always wondered why any 'helpful' comments seemed to be avoided.

Why must we go to the extra trouble of posting an image here? Some of us barely have time to do what we love in the first place and that's take photos!

I really do not want to ruffle any feathers, but from what I can see about this special thread, it is mostly just all the same ol 'great photo' type comments anyway so what's the point... just more back slapping?

If we can toughen up and accept honest critiques where they belong, maybe we can get feedback on photos other than only those we consider our best AND include MANY more members!

No, I do not especially like to hear negative comments about my work, but it IS how we grow as photographers and doing this in the open on the main photo thread is how we grow as a community.

I am just as critical of BP as the next member, but we are not helping things by taking to the back roads.

I expect I have angered everyone, but sure hope I get some feedback because I am frustrated with the whole mess. JudyAnn

5/26/2013 1:16:09 PM

  My reluctance to leave critiques on pictures here is two-fold. Generally, the images are already entered (I might send a private message after noticing they didn't get an EP; and suggest an "fix" and resub.) Secondly, I never know when an image was uploaded with the possibility of a sale - a public critique could squash a sale just by calling attention to something a non-photographer may never have noticed.

Other competitive sites have usually kept the critique side away from the contest side. BP really is no different in that regard. But, it truly is not a good learning atmosphere not to have open critiquing - but choosing the BP way was a choice we made in that respect. Rock/Hard Place!

5/26/2013 3:05:12 PM

  Judy, I'm not sure where you got the idea that this thread only has "great photo" comments on
it. This month there are no critiques yet and last month there were more than a few with detailed observations and specific suggestions.

The lengthy discussion about critiques on a photo thread occured on Cheri's thread about 3 months ago. A few folks felt the same way as you do. Many said they would prefer not because of prospective clients and a few because of the contest. Some of us expressed interest in a companion thread to Cheri's EP thread for non EP images so that's this. You are free to continue getting critique on your photo thread however, I have rarely, if ever, seen critique on a photo's thread here at BP. Maybe if the person invited it? I have never seen the galleries at BP as the place to point out improvements a photo needs. Classes, clubs and forums, yes. It is solicited or expected there. When I was on BP years ago I belongedto the PG101 group which was on Yahoo, a whole other site with a lot of extra steps but it was worth it for the people there and for how much I learned.

Your argument sounds a lot like another from that thread in that everyone should be ok with it because that's how we learn. For me, and I suspect others, my gallery is my "display" of my completed work versus my work in progress. I have a lot to learn still so I seek out those places. I'm always grateful for even a word or two on my photo threads because someone went to to the effort of letting me know they liked it.

I think we can all relate to not having as much time as we'd like. You can submit an image here right from your gallery. You can also ask for people to comment directly on it.

5/26/2013 5:33:54 PM

  The April Finalists are out - Kathy Kuhn just posted 2 of hers on FB. I don't have the link for all of them.

5/26/2013 5:39:49 PM

  Here's the direct link

http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGall2.asp?catID=56845

5/26/2013 5:49:06 PM

Ken Beatty
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Here's an image that did not get an EP in April. Thoughts for improvement or is the subject not strong enough?

5/27/2013 4:03:31 AM

  Ken, was this a blending of bracketed shots? It almost looks as those the blurred parts are unaligned items (two area of thorns in particular.) The other thought that occurred is that the branch is too high into the space rather than running along the top line of the Thirds-grid.

5/27/2013 6:57:39 AM

 
 
  Reflections of Paris
Reflections of Paris
everywhere you go in paris you see bicycles. this is my photograph of those bikes
 
 
i really thought this was a great shot for element of design... but it go skipped over

5/27/2013 8:56:51 AM

  tagging no ep's for May

5/27/2013 10:31:35 AM

  Wow it's really getting late in the month! Glad to see a few pics posted for feedback. I have a couple I'm going to post later today. I'll also try and add some useful feedback as well.

The way things are going it seems quite possible these entries could get EPs right before the judging in June! Oh well...congrats to all who pulled in a finalist or two :)

5/27/2013 11:36:55 AM

  Earlier today, Leslie Morris posted this on an earlier (April EFPs?) thread:

OK guys here is another anomaly in the judging system. If you look up in this thread I put in my little gosling as being passed over in April. It WAS passed over as it is my first entry for May's contest as a re-submit. It did get a May EFP - but low and behold it also got a finalist for April. It DID NOT get its EFP until May. Go figure.


Arrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggghhhh! lollllllllllll

5/27/2013 11:59:36 AM

  Earlier today, Leslie Morris posted this on an earlier (April EFPs?) thread:

OK guys here is another anomaly in the judging system. If you look up in this thread I put in my little gosling as being passed over in April. It WAS passed over as it is my first entry for May's contest as a re-submit. It did get a May EFP - but low and behold it also got a finalist for April. It DID NOT get its EFP until May. Go figure.


Arrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggghhhh! lollllllllllll

5/27/2013 11:59:36 AM

  I seem to be "stuttering" all over the place on BP today!

5/27/2013 12:01:07 PM

Ken Beatty
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  Kathy - That was a single image at iso100 1/30sec 300mm f16. It was a 1:2 Macro. Wish I had a 1:1 but the results were nice anyway.

5/27/2013 12:26:02 PM

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  Tony & Ken - I'm wondering if it was the blurred foreground that caused a problem with the judges on both your images? I had someone tell me once that blurred foregrounds would get you. I know I've had a couple of mine passed over that I liked, and all I could come up with was the foreground.

5/27/2013 1:05:28 PM

  pat it very well could be. that would explain another picture of a dog I submitted where the grass in the front was a little blurred to make the dog stand out more and it got skipped over.

5/27/2013 3:06:38 PM

  I run into that grass in front issue whenever I try to shoot a rural scene that has a fence in the foreground. Trying to focus between the blades is a challenge.

5/27/2013 3:26:03 PM

  zero eps, zero finalists...:-(

5/28/2013 10:20:56 AM

  Very few EPs for April, zero finalists, so :-( for me, too. And only two EPs for May. Rather a drastic change from March, and certainly not a pleasant one.

5/28/2013 5:41:49 PM

  Hi All! I hadn't continued this thread because it became difficult to know whether or when a pic was passed over for an EP. Even now it seems like you can't be sure until Finalists for that month come out!

The rules change for resubmits has left me thinking that there is less incentive to get critique since resubmits are limited to images with substantial changes made. I'm not sure that what we had in mind here was to give suggestions for substantial changes that could be made and I'm wondering about what good suggestions for improvement are if you can't apply them for an improved (tweaked?) image? Thoughts?

7/7/2013 5:35:14 AM

  Maybe the suggestion for improvement could be applied to the next photo we take, instead of working on one already passed over. For example, it has been suggested that some were possibly passed over because of blurred foregrounds. How about re- shooting and stopping your lens all the way down to it's minimum aperture, and then using the len's hyper focal distance for focusing. If that doesn't provide sharp enough focus in the foreground, then I suggest focus stacking to achive what you want. Apply the suggestion to your next photo instead of trying to fix one that got passed over.
Just my opinion.

Nick

7/7/2013 6:58:56 AM

  Right Nick, that was the only benefit I could think of as well. Even analysis of why BP passed it over (using their criteria of course) could be helpful to some in developing a little more critical eye. BPs judging isnt the be all end all (ive sold pieces that didnt make it past EP here!) but since we are here....

I have a few I wouldnt mind getting some feedback on. Btw Nick, your bird pics are awesome!

7/7/2013 5:44:47 PM

  That was my point in another thread. I think some folks are giving to much weight to eps. I had said the same thing...if my photos are selling, I couldn't care less about an EP.
Thank you Susan for the comment on my bird pics. I started to get interested in birds last year, and this year I put a lot more time into it. My Nikon 200-400mm is my longest lens, so I feel totally handicapped when shooting birds. I have so much to learn about bird photography....luckily I have a great mentor.

BTW Susan your gallery is awesome. I'm jealous of your osprey photo, and your flower photos are amazing.

Nick.

7/7/2013 6:28:37 PM

 
 
  Unwelcome Visitor
Unwelcome Visitor
 
   
 
I have a window that I get photos of Hummingbirds and the other day here is what popped up in my window. I was so glad the window was closed.

7/7/2013 8:39:00 PM

  Patricia....first off - yuck! Secomd, great captures amd close up detail! I really like how the window casing provides a frame for thesubject, who has no business poking in windows, but hey, since he's there grab the camera!lol

Nick, I was into birding for years but with binoculars. I'd love to shoot them now but my longest lens is a 70-300mm. That is the one I used in Florida but those birds were pretty close to me. It was one of the most exciting times shooting. I need to figure out the best places around here to shoot!

7/9/2013 4:21:15 AM

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Cheri McEachin
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  78 .  May EFP'S
 
BetterPhoto.com Photo Contest Finalist
 
Color
Color
:)
© Cheri McEachin
Canon EOS 7D Digit...
 
Here it is...May...warmer weather, warmer colors outside and here's hoping many more Editors picks..:)

5/5/2013 5:13:02 PM

  tag :) From getting 29 or so Ep's a month down to three the last few months, I dunno......... Happy Cinco da Mayo!

5/5/2013 5:17:49 PM

  tag :) From getting 29 or so Ep's a month down to three the last few months, I dunno......... Happy Cinco da Mayo!

5/5/2013 5:17:54 PM

  Tag.

5/5/2013 5:44:20 PM

  Thanks for keeping up this thread, Cheri. The one good thing about the reduced number of EFP's is that it has turned this thread into a lively source of conversation.

5/5/2013 5:47:04 PM

  Tag! You're it; I'm not! lollllllll

5/5/2013 6:04:06 PM

  I'm not either! Tag..

5/5/2013 6:07:31 PM

Cheri McEachin
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member since: 10/15/2006
  Yes it is lively ..:) I might not contribute in conversation but, I read all your post to keep up to date...:) one day ill say something wise but not today...

5/5/2013 6:13:03 PM

  Hey, Cheri - you're the wise driver who's keeping the vehicle on the road! Thank you for that.

5/5/2013 7:21:20 PM

  Tag---Good luck to us all although I am not expecting a lot.

5/5/2013 8:22:38 PM

  Tag. Following along :)

5/5/2013 9:00:13 PM

  None out of 3 entries so far!

5/6/2013 12:21:53 PM

  Batting .000 here so far ...

5/6/2013 6:29:20 PM

  I don't believe that any efp's have been given out yet. Remember last month it seemed to take them a week or so to get started. Don't get discouraged yet.

5/6/2013 6:55:02 PM

  Haven't put any in yet this month! Not sure it's worth the aggrevation.

5/7/2013 11:59:47 AM

Ken Beatty
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  tag...

5/7/2013 12:30:35 PM

  Tag. Thank u Cheri! I've only entered two resubs so far. I'm guessing no eps have been given yet?

I only entered 15 in the contest last month. This month I've taken a break for a few days and have family coming soon so I doubt I'll be able to do much till later in the month. Am hoping EPs pick up for everyone!

5/7/2013 1:51:50 PM

  TAG!!

5/8/2013 4:13:11 PM

  Thanks Cheri for bringing this interesting thread to us every month. No EPs yet for me too.

UB.

5/8/2013 8:27:25 PM

  I looked on the thread that BP has to show the EFP under Contest-EFPs, and it was blank.

5/8/2013 8:30:19 PM

  Looks like no EPs yet for May but I've started a critique thread for images that get passed over. I know I have/will be resubmitting some from April that got passed over. Feel free to post those as well, if you want feedback :)


http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=35967

5/9/2013 6:45:22 AM

  Zero for me so far, and I've posted every day (in fact, nothing since April 26).

5/9/2013 7:39:21 AM

  Same for me, Monnie..My last was 4/27.
Nothing in May.

5/9/2013 9:32:22 AM

  Last EP was April 30. None yet for May.

5/9/2013 12:40:32 PM

  Tag. Thanks for doing this, Cheri. I rarely contribute, but I do like to follow along. Somehow it's comforting. No EPs in May (although my submissions are down); my last EP for April was 4/26.

5/9/2013 2:45:11 PM

  My last EP was the 25th. I was out of town and entered resubs with previous EP's on the 26-29th so I can't tell if any got picked up again or not. I did not get one on the 30th - a new entry - and have not had one yet in May. I have entered every day.

5/9/2013 3:38:37 PM

 
 
  Sunshine
Sunshine
iso 100, 100mm (Canon 100L marco w/2 ef25ii ext tubes), f/4 (av priority), 1/15 sec, timer/tripod, plastic sandwich bag w/small hole in end over lens, cs5....Playing again this afternoon
 
 
I just got one for May 6....a resub from April 4 that didn't get an EP....Hmmmmmm, now I wonder if it is new, or, just late for April??

5/9/2013 7:37:36 PM

  Zip-o here for May. And no new ones for April either, LOL.

5/9/2013 7:52:11 PM

  Tagging too!

5/10/2013 4:16:58 AM

  Tagging too!

5/10/2013 4:17:09 AM

  May seems slow for EPs or perhaps fewer are being given out than in April. Anyone got any thoughts on the numbers?

Tagging along...

5/10/2013 6:08:29 AM

  See my previous TAG-They are not giving any out PERIOD! Go to your Member Center, and then to the menu at the top of the page; click on Contest-Editor's First Picks; It will be blank!

5/10/2013 6:41:21 AM

  I have looked through a number of contest entries on 5/1 and none of them have EFP's so my guess is that they haven't started looking at them yet. Last month they were late getting started on giving out EFP's and it looks like this month they will be just as late or later. This may be the new normal.

5/10/2013 7:21:21 AM

  Very interesting.

5/10/2013 7:22:54 AM

  It looks like resubmits have EFP's in May so far.

5/10/2013 7:42:08 AM

  Marilyn: It looks like resubmits have EFP's in May so far.

Question is whether those resubs had previous EP's or not. I started the month with three resubs from my gallery. All had been skipped in March and April. No EP's yet.

5/10/2013 12:12:02 PM

  Good point, Nikki

5/10/2013 12:21:42 PM

  In the past, at the first part of the month before any EP's had been given, there were still photos remaining in the Editor's Pick's gallery---photos remaining from the previous month's picks. I'm pretty sure there were---I've never seen it empty before.

5/10/2013 12:25:45 PM

  Doesn't leave you with a "warm and fuzzy" feeling, huh?

5/10/2013 1:02:34 PM

  Nancy, more like damp and cold! :-(

5/10/2013 1:28:06 PM

  Two people I know have now reported new EP's on photos entered in April, skipped, and re-entered from their gallery in May. Today. So there is life out there :)

5/10/2013 3:23:46 PM

Ken Beatty
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  I just picked up 2 early April EFPs and they were not re-subs... This brings me to 11 for April. So look at your April entries, they maybe getting EFPs...

5/10/2013 4:30:43 PM

  Ny last EP was April 30...nothing yet this month...

5/11/2013 2:43:22 PM

  Here it is May 11th and the EFP box is empty. Like most of you, I am a serious amateur. I do not get to display my work locally and the opportunity to do so has been with BP. I am confused to say the least and disheartened. Does anyone have an explanation? Is there a problem with BetterPhoto.com? I am hesitant to upload any new photos and am adopting a wait and see attitude with entering this month's contest. My last EP was in April as well. I have really enjoyed being a part of this community. I hope there are no serious problems.

5/11/2013 4:17:33 PM

  I understand the discouragement, guys and gals, but I do not understand the reluctance to continue to upload to the contest if you have what you consider competitive entries. You have nothing to lose but a few minutes' time. What's most discouraging to me is watching the entries numbers dwindle month by month . . . And reversing that trend is in OUR hands.

5/11/2013 4:22:38 PM

  I agree with Nikki - I'm still submitting photos, and am keeping an eye on things.

5/11/2013 4:40:15 PM

  I have one to upload, but not sure what category to put it in. Still trying to figure that one out! Good luck everyone!

5/11/2013 5:22:36 PM

  Well, I have seen the wisdom of entering and yes, there is nothing to lose. It is still frustrating. Has this ever happened before? I have been a member for less than two years.

5/11/2013 5:42:07 PM

  No, Harriet, no it hasn't... :-(

5/11/2013 8:12:57 PM

  Tag; 0 for me on the new subs in May but I continue to enter as usual.

5/12/2013 10:04:08 PM

  I used to sign into BP with anticipation to see what the response was to the previous day's contest entry. For me, the EFPs gave BP the advantage of a daily interaction and conversation with its membership and this encouraged members to be active and engaged too.

WIthout a daily BP presence, it's like other contest sites - which seem to promote winning more than participating and sharing.

My website is here, so I'll continue to post daily images. AND, there are so many wonderful artists and images to enjoy and learn from here.

M.

5/13/2013 3:55:08 AM

  It looks like there's not much point in keeping this thread open. We can gripe on Susan's "Where the heck is my EP" thread.

5/13/2013 4:11:13 AM

  Well there are no EFPs on the Facebook thread either- looks like Jim is leaving his membership out in the cold there, too.

5/13/2013 5:03:13 AM

Pat Harry
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  No EPs for me, but I have only entered a handful of entries. What I miss most about the decrease in the EPs is the chatting here in the message board - looking to see what everyone has received. I really miss that - the social aspect that came with the EPs.

5/13/2013 5:03:50 AM

  The motivation has dropped to almost nothing..along with the number of entries in the contest. I think they wanted it to drop, and by slowing or stopping the EPs it seems to be working.

5/13/2013 5:14:39 AM

  Here's Susan's link:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=35967

Facebook - Better Photo Page is basically abandoned with almost all previous posts and threads removed.

Facebook - Jim Miotke has posted occasionally featured photos of members with an invitation to visit www.betterphoto.com to see other beautiful and inspiring images (different words each time; basic message.)

Luckily, many of us are on Facebook and continue to interact with each other.

5/13/2013 6:02:22 AM

  Yes, the Contest entry numbers have been dropping consistently. For example, In the October 2011 contest the congratulations note said 14200 photos. In the January 2013, there were 10600 and last month's were 8500.

5/13/2013 6:31:42 AM

  Lately I've been enjoying the interaction with other BP members (and several who have left BP) at Facebook - if you're there, look me up! (And also at RB, VB and FAA...)

5/13/2013 7:26:01 AM

  I'm also at RB, VB and FAA
At VB I'm okielady

5/13/2013 8:43:17 AM

  I had done alot of research when I was looking for a photo sharing website to join and based on what I found BP was by far the best website because of the photographer's on here. I did not have a clue about what photography was until I joined BP. Sure I had taken some decent shots but when I was able to view the results of the skill and creativity of the photographer's here on BP I was AMAZED and knew I had alot to learn. I still have alot to learn but I have come along way. My thoughts about the recent changes in the last couple of month's are pretty consistant with most of yours. I would like to have the old BP back. The monthly contest entries have dropped so drastically. The first month I joined there was almost 20,000 entries and like Marilyn said there was around 8500 last month. I have sent emails with questions about a couple of things in my gallery but I never hear anything back. It's like nobody is there anymore. I have been contacted by a few other BP members and they are having the same thoughts. I would love to see BP like it used to be. Beautiful photo's, awesome friendships, help when you needed it and a monthly contest that was so far above and beyond any other contest on the web. Just my thoughts.....

5/13/2013 8:49:33 AM

  Observe the same, I really hope this is just some type of software glitch that will resolve itself soon. The EP's, POTD, contest, etc. and interaction with other members is what makes BP unique, challenging, and such an enjoyable learning base. I wouldn't hesitate to pay double the annual fee for it either.
Any company in any business segment needs to be unique in order to survive over their competition, hope BP isn't loosing its unique edge....

5/13/2013 7:58:50 PM

  I emailed a comment through the tech department. The category I selected was "problems uploading photos" as I am not so sure I am going to continue uploading if things don't change. I expressed the fact that it is not fair to the customers to be kept in the dark over all this. By the way, I got a response from someone who said that they would pass it along to the appropriate personnel. We'll see. By the way, what is VB, FFA and RB? I am curious.

5/13/2013 8:08:43 PM

  Maybe we should all volunteer our services to Jim to help out with whatever the problem is. I get the feeling there is no staff anymore? It was nice that he responded last month, but he didn't really address what all of us are wondering. If he wants to drop the contest, he should just say so and not leave us all hanging wondering what is going on. In the retail world I was taught that even if you are doing poorly, never tell anybody...just say everything is fine...That is what it seems like is happening here.
I remember when there were no EPs, we all just had to wait and see if we got finalists.

5/13/2013 11:01:22 PM

  I got a little thwack on the head idea this morning. It occurred to me that it if BP is having difficulties, the site could disappear without a farewell.

I'd like to take this moment to let you know how much you've contributed to me.

Thank you - each of you for your great participation and support - for commenting on images that are lesser and better, for answering questions. You so generously contribute your time and your best work. Each of you has made this an encouraging and positive community. Never were there any corrective comments or negative criticisms. Everyone here has been stellar. As a learner starting in 2008 with no experience, BP has been the best learning environment I've experienced.

A big thank you to the BP folks. BP's services made it so easy to start a professional site. Jim, Celia, and Jay have been great to me. They have supported my professional site here with speed, expert solutions and gracious and professional interactions.

Thanks!
Marilyn

5/14/2013 6:19:07 AM

  Harriet, I sent you a BP email with the site names. Members who mention other (competing) sites here can be thrown out, or so the rules say - hence the acronyms.

5/14/2013 6:37:34 AM

  BTW, I have it on good authority (from the players themselves), that, as a fail safe, they have acquired galleries on those other sites- must be some of the thousands that used to be on BP.

5/14/2013 6:51:44 AM

  Well, somebody finally mentioned the elephant in the living room. Jim mentioned around a year ago that they were having difficulties but had decided not to shut down. That's stuck in my mind. When DIC shut down without warning, some Pros lost everything, so being prepared with a back up plan is critical for those in business (even those who are not.)

Not only are galleries important, but so are contact. Getting personal contact info of photographers you want to keep in touch with is an important preemptive action.

I hate having this kind of conversation, but if BP is unwilling - or unable - to reassure members with total honesty that there is nothing to worry about, then we need to help others. Explanations that really aren't backed up with corresponding action isn't very encouraging. I love BP but feel as though we're standing on quicksand. We can always gather at FB - Jim and most of the Pro/Instructor staff members are there already too.

5/14/2013 7:17:29 AM

  Kathy could set up a BPers group on Facebook and we could all find it there pretty easy. I'm also worried about what happens to our websites if they do go under. Scary. I have stuff on there that I no longer have a copy of on my computer. Nothing great, but lots of memories of my animals.

5/14/2013 7:51:22 AM

  Well, I'll just keep hoping - I'm not on Facebook and have no desire to be :)

5/14/2013 7:55:02 AM

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Just got another April EFP...

5/14/2013 8:06:01 AM

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  I guess there's life out there... Just catching up on last month's entries.

5/14/2013 8:07:38 AM

  Checked all 15 of mine that were skipped. Nada. And I think it's really strange to still be "catching up" on April skips. Had you resubmitted it in May, Ken?

5/14/2013 8:13:13 AM

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  No. I never took out the skipped images from last month. So... I go to my gallery for April Entries and the EFP's have been showing up there. I think I've gotten 3 in the last week.

5/14/2013 8:17:46 AM

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  The other entries were "Popping Through" and "Nine Lives the Tails". They all got their EFPs this last week.

5/14/2013 8:22:31 AM

  Carolyn: find the photos that you no longer have on your computer under" My photos," then under your photo there is a place to "share" your photo. Click on this and share it with yourself to your personal email. Along with your photo, however, you will get plenty of BP propaganda along with your photo. We used to be able to erase it, but if you try to do that now, your photo will disappear too. But, at least you will have your photo. If I were you, I would back up the remaining photos that you still have on your hard drive, and do it frequently,in more than one place (an outside HD), or "in the Cloud" online.

5/14/2013 8:25:24 AM

  Stranger and stranger. The April contest is over. Why spend time going through entries that could not possibly go on? Haven't looked at your entries, Ken, so please don't take this as any kind of a comment on them - but sounds more and more to me like a computer glitch. Like maybe they set something in motion to go back and randomly award more EP's and forgot to turn it off. In terms of their continuing "meaningful" EP's, I find this less than reassuring.

5/14/2013 8:27:26 AM

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  Either it's a glitch or the Editors have not finished assigning EFPs for April. I really don't know. I've been a member for less than s year.

5/14/2013 8:34:57 AM

  I was just reading todays comments here and decided to check out the EP's for April. Just seen where I had just gotten an EP on Dutchman Breeches from April 16th. Ellen even recommended that I resubmit this one but I had not done that yet. Ken I think you are right. Don't really think this is a computer glitch.

5/14/2013 9:03:41 AM

  Nothing of mine has an ep that didn't have one before. I don't have a clue what's going on.
And Nancy, I can get the photos back, and have done a bunch of them. From your website if you have one, you can right click on your own image and then save as...But it won't work on your galleries, I don't think..and of course, it comes back about the same size you sent it in, which is very small.

5/14/2013 11:19:22 AM

  Hi,
I did receive a reply to my email sent to technology and then passed along to "Team Better Photo". According to them the lag is just that there are way more entries than ever and it is just taking longer to go through them. According to other posts in this thread, this is not the case. Who is correct? According to the Team Better Photo reply, I should keep checking to see if any of my photos get an EFP. I don't know.....????

5/14/2013 12:01:41 PM

  Hi Harriet, it sounds to me like there are way less entries, not more. Like I said before it's that retail thing of never admitting when you are not doing well...always say everything is fine...

5/14/2013 12:13:20 PM

  I just checked and there are 3,944 entries so far for the contest. Since we are almost half way through the month this does not seem like way more entries at all. A bunch of these 3,944 entries are also dated in prior months which is very strange and why some people may still be getting EFP's for April. For example, Landscape which is normally a popular category, has 595 entries so far and about 150 of those entries are for months prior to May. So, I would say that contest entries are way down, not way up. I have seen no evidence of any EFP's for May.

5/14/2013 12:31:49 PM

  Well, it they are going to continue to award EP's, they ARE way behind - for whatever reason. It's about time to select the April finalists.

Ohhh, I see, said the blind woman. I was a month off on Finalists. March awards have come out, April have not. So it DOES make sense for them to still be going back and looking at April entries. I take back my comments about Ken's and others' new April EP's.

5/14/2013 7:51:22 PM

  Usually when I get up every morning, there is a POTD waiting for me in my email-none today! I find this odd, as the time they are posted is around 3:00am PDT. There was, however, a Snapshot with a BP classes list. Seems like one other aspect of the BP site we used to love might be gone-let's just hope it's late this morning.

5/15/2013 4:49:41 AM

  I think they were just late. I got the POTD newsletter, but after the Snapshot.

5/15/2013 5:00:16 AM

  Yes, they were late-just got it-must be hard on a skeleton crew!

5/15/2013 5:23:13 AM

  My SnapShot arrived at 5:00 am (Detroit time), but still no POTD notification at 9:55 am.

5/15/2013 6:52:06 AM

  My notifications come all willy-nilly. I think it has more to do with servers along the line than the "moment" they are released at BP.

5/15/2013 6:55:56 AM

  The only thing I get always and absolute is the adds and sales. For the last 2 days I have had trouble uploading any photos and sometimes cannot load the page. They sure know how to take the fun out of things. :)

5/15/2013 7:30:33 AM

  Picked up an EPs on my Roadside Tulips submitted on April 22 sometime since last night. I guess they are still out there. LOL.

5/15/2013 8:45:59 AM

  This thought just occurred to me ... going forward, maybe they are planning to reveal all the EPs at once, the same way finalists and winners are revealed ...

5/15/2013 10:29:45 AM

  I just received an EP on an April 19th entry.

5/15/2013 10:39:08 AM

  No new EPs for April. I had 15 entries and 11 got EPs so i'm not expecting any on the other 4. I'm glad to hear others are...better late than never!

This lag in time or computer problem is getting more discouraging. Like most of you, my routine of checking BP and entering often has slacked off dramatically. It's fallen out of my daily habit. I still can't understand how all of this could be benefitting BPs business.

My gallery is up for renewal June 4th and I'm wondering if I should keep it or find one more beneficial to my own business. Like Carolyn I also have some older pics on here that I don't have copies of elsewhere. Also, with the BP awards, having a gallery displaying them is the only "proof" of that accomplishment. Ya can't take em with ya...in other words! I miss the old BP!!!

5/15/2013 3:05:51 PM

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  If they are still giving out EPs for April, it probably means they're doing a double-check on the April contest entries, prior to culling them down to the finalists. I think...

And then, I bet they'll focus on May EPs and you'll see them awarded fairly quickly.

For historical reference, BP never used to hand out EPs "in the beginning." We all waited til the end of the month for finalists...and it seemed like a happier time then. Lots of forum discussion, lots of contest entries. It wasn't until the EP was awarded, that more discontent occurred.

And I think the discontent arose because of the lack of consistency that BP had, for the percentage of EPs awarded...no way to judge if the quality of the photos was improving. A lower EP rate simply meant less photos were moving forward...not that the quality of individual photos was going down.

I'd welcome the thoughts of other long-term BP members on whether the EP has helped, or hindered the creative photography of BP members. I think it's caused more resentment than joy. It could have been a great motivational took, if consistently administered.

5/15/2013 8:32:05 PM

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  Oops..typo....last sentence...I meant "tool", not "took."

5/15/2013 8:33:31 PM

  I enjoy the validation of an EFP but there's more to BP than that. I enjoy being able to display my work and if I am lucky, a member notices a photo and makes a comment. It is all about a community of artists and the opportunity to share ideas, compliments, constructive criticism and if an EFP is awarded then it is icing on the cake. I just want BP to continue as I have enjoyed it so much. The contest is a lot of fun and I hope that continues as well. We all will just have to wait and see.

5/15/2013 8:48:31 PM

  I have been with BP for over 9 years. In response to Ken's question, I love photography more than ever! For me, the best part of this community, is the life long friendships, I have made. In person and on the internet. I was also fortunate to meet the BP staff, it made my experience here even better. EP or no EP, I still like posting here. Good luck to all of you!!!

Donna

5/15/2013 8:58:45 PM

  Good to see an EP emerge on my April 23rd submit.


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5/15/2013 10:17:15 PM

  EP OR NO EP, I LOVE BP!!!

Ken, I am not an old-timer (BP-wise) but have no hesitation in saying that I LOVE BP as it has provided me a forum where I can interact with a wonderful community of fellow enthusiasts of all levels and just going over the images taken by so many awesome artists has been a source of inspiration for me since 2008. I can easily say that members here are so very helpful in assisting fellow BPers and share their knowledge. I have yet to find a photography website where the sharing of knowledge of its community is anywhere near as it is here at BP!!!

BP has been instrumental in helping improve my photography (at least that's what I like to think) in the last six years or so. My love for photography has also augmented because of it, and to top it all off BP has introduced me to so many wonderful people who share my passion some of whom have become good friends. So, thank you BP!!!

UB.

5/15/2013 10:31:37 PM

  In response to Ken, I think it was more interesting before the EPs, you just had to wait until you either got or didn't get an email letting you know you got a finalist. I remember folks complaining about how they seemed to give EPs to every image, now we are upset because we aren't getting them :-) My only disappointment really is the lack of communication. If they want to discontinue the EPs and go back to the way it used to be or something new, just let us all know ...
Like Donna, I have met several friends through BP to go shoot with, I have learned a lot of great information and on the whole have enjoyed being a part of the community. I just hope it continues to grow and improve. I know what it was like when the other site I was a member of folded, it was sad. Luckily many of the members of that group are here at BP so we can stay in touch.

5/15/2013 10:42:34 PM

  Yes, there was definitely more participation those day’s ( before the EP’s came into being ) . Since then, an EP badge or not, to me has been more of a confirmation to check as whether the image that I had entered has moved to the next round or not, nothing more than that. On the contrary, I would have welcome the bar for an EP to be set a little higher than where it ended up being and consistently so before this change came up in last 2-3 months. So, I am ok with the recent change in EP awarding process also reconfirmed by Jim when we wrote that they will continue to award EP for the ‘excellent’ images , if they can remain consistent with this revised approach, I think that on a long term , this will help in improving the standard of photography further.

Also , I don’t think there was ever an commitment from BP side that EP’s will be awarded within 1 week or 2 weeks of each Photo that is entering into the contest, the only commitment that is there on the site states “ photo contest winners will be posted by ”. It’s only because we got used to getting an early confirmation with a BP badge, there is discontent now in the lack of it or delayed process coupled with the reduction in EP nos. Now, this being a common ask and motivational factor for many BP members , I think BP can do many things to address it, one suggestion to streamline the ‘timing’ aspect of it would be that instead of even attempting to award EP badges to the contest entries of the current month, they should complete the process of EP-Finalist-Winner selection of the previous month, declare the result and then start the EP awarding process for the current month , there will be delay of 2-3 weeks before the EP’s for the current months are awarded but then we’ll know why even if they don’t officially announce such an approach – provided,it is done consistently.

5/15/2013 11:45:49 PM

  the complete quote from the BP site (somehow did not appear in full in my comment above)....... "(month) photo contest winners will be posted by (last day of the month...)"

5/15/2013 11:51:26 PM

  I'm only going to address the "more" or "less" participation issue. I haven't been here as long as Ken, but I have been here since before EP's and since the time of free basic galleries for up to 100 images. It was also possible to post in the forums without being a member then. This was also at the time when internet bulletin boards were still pretty popular and people still checked their email frequently. Times have changed - in the digital world as well as at BP. Yes, I do remember lots more activity in the Forums BUT I remember lots of negative, disgruntled talk, some of it downright ugly. I hated the forums then. Give me courteous, civilized interaction any day :) I would like to see more activity, but I would never want to go back to the tone of my first year or two.

5/16/2013 6:00:41 AM

 
 
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Just received an EP from a April entry...

5/16/2013 9:21:16 AM

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  A few weeks ago I received a message from someone whom I believe may be one of the judges, saying that she enjoyed viewing my work and that this may be the last time. I didn't think really anything about it at the time, thinking it was just a personal issue. But after talking to Harriet earlier this week, I remembered this message and maybe the contests are being eased out (?) If this is true, hopefully this only affects the contests and not the entire site. ~April

5/16/2013 9:26:17 AM

  I really liked it when the EP's first began---it was exciting to log in and find a badge under a photo and know that that photo had progressed in the contest. Later, when almost every photo got an EP, they because sort of meaningless to me. Now...I'm honestly not sure how to assess what an EP means or doesn't mean.

5/16/2013 9:27:31 AM

  Natural/Abstract:
I suspect I know the message you are talking about. If I am right, she has nothing to do with BP officially and never has had. I'll check with you in a PM

5/16/2013 9:33:27 AM

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  Yes, Nikki, that was the message. I hadn't thought she was a judge but then after the "no EP" debate I thought maybe she was. That's what I get for thinking. :) ~April

5/16/2013 10:13:14 AM

  I was here before EPs, starting in 2004. I was new to photography and was very "green." Up till the time I took a break in 2008, I had only received 4 or 5 finalists, then finally a 2nd place in early 2008.

When EPs began, I liked them because it gave me more feedback on my images. Before them the only measure of whether I was improving was a finalist. With EPs I then knew which images were more proficient or in line with basic standards. I believe this helped me to learn why, as well. Then, too many images were getting EPs. I would look at some images that got them amd come to the conclusion that they didn't mean anything, anymore.

With that said, I would prefer they award EPs selectively like they used to. Right now, what really seems off is the timing on reviewing and giving the EPs. We've gone thru changes without explanation before. What confounds me is that it's going on 3 months with no clear or consistent pattern of what the "new" new is.

5/16/2013 4:04:10 PM

  I posted this on another thread but see no activity on it.. so here it is..:)

For the 1st time in months, I am attempting to enter some images that have never been on BP and a few radically re-edited ones in May, trying for 31 new ones...... I've been on a bit of a sad run photographically in the past year it seems, life has got in my way... So I have to say it's been a bummer to me that May is the month they seem to have stopped the EP's, or at least they are way behind... Nobody likes change... I guess we have all become accustomed to knowing which shots go on or have caught their eye... Oh well, as with all other things with BP, change comes and we must adjust...

5/17/2013 5:29:03 PM

  Adjust, or leave, which, it seems they are doing in droves!

5/17/2013 5:53:38 PM

  I am not quite sure how one would know if "they are leaving in droves". It is not out of the ordinary for people to want a good thing to remain the same. I, for one, enjoyed the feedback that came with EP. After 40 years of teaching math I know something about learning and immediate feedback is needed for interest to remain high and for learning to continue. If BP is going to wait a month to hand out EP's or discontinue them then it would be too bad. Instead of listening to their customers they would indeed be saying, "adjust, or leave" which is not a very good attitude.

5/17/2013 6:36:01 PM

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  Earlier in this thread, I posed the question about whether the EP was causing more resentment than joy.

I should have also said that I love BP, despite the change in how they hand out the EPs. I'm not a member on other photo sites; just BP. And BP is much more than the contest. It's about friends...of folks helping each other...and learning. When I first joined BP, I saw the impersonal mini-pics...but eventually, I learned there were real people behind the mini-pics...with the same common goal to enjoy photography and improve. That foundation is still here. I think we should focus on that, and not the timeliness of when they award EPs...or if they're handing out a lot....or a few.

In fairness, I hope they return to a consistent level of EPs...easier to know if you're improving. And hand them out in a timely manner. But this is secondary to why I still enjoy BP.

5/17/2013 9:11:11 PM

  I agree fully with you, Ken. This is where I found my home in photography and where I want to stay! So many friends, such talent, and such wonderful opportunity for growth.

5/18/2013 2:01:15 AM

  I'm glad I found this thread as I was beginning to wonder if it was just me. My last EP was April 30. and that one came fairly quickly.
I haven't been posting as much the last few weeks as I threw out my lower back and can't sit for too long. I feel badly that I haven't been commenting on photos as often.
I've been here before EPs were handed out and eagerly waited for Finalists at the end of the month. I did well at first and then found that after a few years the Finalists I received were almost nil. I took a year off and when I returned EPs were the new thing. They gave me something to look forward to and fueled my interest once again. It was the community and encouragement of one particular member who brought me to a whole new level. My personal criteria is to enter only what I think has a chance to become a Finalist. Now with EPs being few and far between I'm starting to second guess my entries and it's discouraging.
I agree with Ken as well and perhaps I should channel my energy back into commenting and not worry so much about my personal EPs. It's the community and friendships I've made that make this such a wonderful place.

5/18/2013 4:53:48 AM

 
 
 
I did a resubmit of one of Ken Smith that I got a finalist on in 2011, now it has an EP on it for May.

That was a fun trip and it began raining and Ken got out and took a picture of our gang "The Shooting Gallery". It was a fun trip and fun group for sure. So, I at least got an EP in May, only one...duhhhh hope it at least gets a finalist this year...

Thanks for all the help you gave me when I first started on BP, think it was in 2006 or 2007..first ever camera, and I'm so glad I joined BP. Learned so much just looking at all the pictures , took a few classes and went on a LOT of trips with the gang...what fun!!

So...I have a smile on my face and hope to keep it...I am still posting everyday and enjoying it. I did get 3 finalist in March so I can't complain...

Enjoy this forum and getting to know many of you better...it's nearly like family! :-)

jo ann c.

5/18/2013 11:50:37 AM

  I mentioned this last month, and the museum reopening was today. So, with no eEPs to report, I'll just share the now completed exhibit containing one of my images...

http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGallDetail.asp?photoID=13883336

5/18/2013 2:27:19 PM

  Awesome, Kathy! Huge congrats!

5/18/2013 3:17:15 PM

  You have a May EP, Jo Ann?

5/19/2013 7:24:42 AM

  I agree with Ken also... BP is my only photo outlet... While others have joined various sites, BP has plenty to keep me entertained... I too love the friendships and camaraderie we have all come to expect... It's been a great source of learning and improvement for me since courses and classes have never been something I can afford... I will stay and participate till the day they shut it down(which I hope never comes). EP or no EP, I love BP and I am sure whatever changes are being made or coming, are necessary for BP to continue on..

5/19/2013 8:00:57 AM

  Hey Bob, it was a different one that month on that shoot...sooo...I haven't received anything this month either! Oh well, bet we all will by the last of the month!
I certainly enjoy your gallery!

jo ann c.

5/19/2013 10:20:09 AM

  Hey, did anyone notice this? There are EPS showing now when you go to Contest > Editor's Picks from the home page ...

5/19/2013 3:33:47 PM

  Oh yay! I didn't get one, but they are indeed from May 1. Thanks, Peggy.

5/19/2013 3:42:52 PM

  Me neither, Nikki, but at least there are signs of life ... :)

5/19/2013 3:48:16 PM

  That folder is on a random sort, but I still couldn't see more than about 15, max 20 different images. That's not very many for an entire day, so maybe they just got started and will do more. And anyway, as you say, Peggy - at least it's a sign of life

5/19/2013 4:29:42 PM

  "It's alive"! .. Dr. Fronkensteen

5/19/2013 4:43:35 PM

  When you hit "reload," the same photos keep recycling, and some of them are dated as far back as March of 2010. Maybe this is just BP's effort to calm us down- it is not working this way!

5/19/2013 4:43:47 PM

  That's not unusual, Marie. Uploaded photos always bear the date of upload. What you have seen are resubmissions. There are also a fair number of May 1 submissions. I am willing to bet all 13 that are in there now - I counted by writing the titles down and reloading over and over and over - were submitted or resubmitted on May 1. And resubmissions do not automatically get re-picked. I also looked through the recent entries until I found the NEW May 1 entries. There were over 200 and there's no way to calculate the resubs people chose to make on May 1 (my own is one). So 13 isn't very many . . . but it is a start :)

5/19/2013 4:56:38 PM

  Well, hope springs, then! Thank you, Nikki!

5/19/2013 4:59:13 PM

  You're welcome :)

And I should have said "resubmissions THAT HAVE EP'S do not automatically get re-picked"

5/19/2013 5:06:09 PM

  19 days into May and there are now 508 "new arrivals", which does not indicate the number of entries (averaging 27 per day.) At that rate, there should be approximately 900 new arrivals for the entire month of May. It will be interesting to see how many entries there will actually be - and like Nikki says, who knows how many entries will actually be resubs. I haven't figure out how to find entries by dates, however (without opening up every thumbnail and checking the upload date there.)

5/19/2013 5:07:01 PM

  LOL, Bob!

5/19/2013 5:07:18 PM

  Well, my goodness. An EP for me from March 1.

Firstborn

5/19/2013 5:33:30 PM

  I mean MAY 1.

5/19/2013 5:34:36 PM

  I am not clear on this----if you re-sub a photo from your gallery that has received a EP or finalist does the EP or finalist show up under the photo?

5/19/2013 8:50:02 PM

  It does. But they don't really look at it when they judge anew for EP's. I do EP's all the time, very seldom Finalists. But quite a few actually get passed over the second time and I know that's true of Finalists (others'), too. They either can't see them or don't scroll down to do so when they judge for EP's, so by "yes" I just mean that you won't "lose" it.

5/19/2013 8:56:51 PM

  I believe another EP popped up under the image I submitted on April 27.


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5/20/2013 3:11:45 AM

  Decided to check all my non-eps in April and found another one with an EP badge.


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5/20/2013 3:25:29 AM

  Thanks Nikki, I had just noticed that some had EP's and it was very random.

5/20/2013 3:52:23 AM

  My May 1st entry now has an EFP on it... So there is life out there...:)

5/20/2013 8:47:04 AM

  My May 1st also just got an EP.

;-)

5/20/2013 9:57:13 AM

  None for me, and if April is any indication, there probably won't be.

5/20/2013 10:12:03 AM

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  Carol - your in good company! Rest assured your images are amazing. None for me either...

5/20/2013 12:00:22 PM

  TAG!

5/20/2013 2:15:32 PM

  Pray for Linda Yee, her family, and all the other Oklahoma City residents. They were hit with a major tornado this afternoon.

(I think she still lives in that area.

5/20/2013 3:43:56 PM

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  It's tragic, for sure. Heart breaking.

Carolyn Fletcher lives in Eastern Oklahoma and I know the line moved thru her area too, later in the day although I don't think there were as many damaging tornadoes...But hail and winds. Keep her in your thoughts too.

5/20/2013 7:10:22 PM

  I Haven't heard back from Carolyn yet, but will post here when I do. The electricity is probably a mess throughout the storm-hit areas.

5/20/2013 8:04:33 PM

  Praying for the safety of all families involved.

UB.

5/20/2013 8:48:25 PM

  Just saw it on Net.....really heart breaking....the children in that elementary school that took the direct hit and all those who suffered....my thoughts and prayers for all.....

5/21/2013 2:00:03 AM

  Heard from a close friend in Shawnee OK-he and his family are all right, but so many are not. The only thing we can do now is contribute to the recovery of the survivors, and send prayers to the families who have lost loved ones. It is so heart-breaking, especially the loss of so many children. We are hoping that the coming storms slated for today will not have any direct hits, or maybe not touch down. I was a teacher in Irving, TX, in the 1970s when 2 tornadoes dropped down to just above the school roof. I and all the other teachers were in the hallways tucked up against the lockers with the children, where we remained until the all clear siren signaled that the twisters were gone. I was 8 months pregnant at the time, and plenty scared, but our job as teachers was to calm and protect those children who were our charges. We were lucky that day, as there was just a lot of noise, a shaking structure, and, believe it or not, frantic parents were right outside the school trying to get their children, which are safer in the school than out in the storm. The tornados dropped down to just above the roof, and stayed just long enough to scare most of us, then moved on. We were so lucky, too, that these tornados were not in the category of those that have devastated Oklahoma. I have been in earthquakes, hurricanes and tornadoes, and by far, tornadoes are the most scary. My heart goes out to the parents who lost children and loved ones in these recent disasters-such a tragedy!

5/21/2013 5:48:12 AM

  This is the city (metro area) who lost so many children in the bombings of 1995. it's breaking my heart that they are going through a similar devastating (even for a different cause) event.

Nancy Marie - amazing experiences that you went through, too.

5/21/2013 6:04:16 AM

  This is the city (metro area) who lost so many children in the bombings of 1995. it's breaking my heart that they are going through a similar devastating (even for a different cause) event.

Nancy Marie - amazing experiences that you went through, too.

5/21/2013 6:04:16 AM

  Thank you all for thinking of us here in Oklahoma. Kathy, thanks to you for the "shout out". My family and I are all fine. The tornados have gone north and south of Tulsa so we were not hit.

The situation in Moore, a suburb of Oklahoma City is very sad, particularly with the loss of the children. Moore was hit badly back in May 1999 with a tornado of the same magnitude as well. It appears that it will be a lot quieter night tonight for us in Oklahoma, but it looks like North Texas might be under the weather gun....I hope not.

Again, thank you for your thoughts.
Linda Yee

5/21/2013 11:26:58 AM

  We're ok, too. I still have a few more hours to go through before it moves out of here. We are right below I-40 just off Hwy 69..I've been unable to get online due to the almost constant lightning since yesterday. It was a bit stressful. We have grandkids and great grandkids in OKC. They are ok, too. It's starting up again, so I'm getting back offline.

5/21/2013 11:45:53 AM

  I have been on BP for many years and this year I've been very discouraged. I am not happy with the changes, the lack of EP's, but especially the lack of correspondence from BP as to what is going on. I would be interested in the other websites mentioned. I am on RB, but am unfamiliar with VB or FAA. Would someone send me a personal email with the info on them. I have two galleries on BP, but am worried that I may need to find another website to share my work on.

5/21/2013 12:05:33 PM

  Carolyn
It is wonderful to hear from you. I hope everything recovers for you.

All my best,
Marilyn

5/21/2013 3:17:37 PM

  Linda, I got mixed up - forgot you were in Tulsa. Thanks for the heads up - now I can fret about Pat Harry and Joannie Bertucci.

5/21/2013 5:56:37 PM

  Carolyn, good to hear you are OK :-)

5/21/2013 7:42:25 PM

  Kathy, thank you for keeping us updated on how BetterPhoto members are doing in the Oklahoma area. Happy to hear Linda and Carolyn are okay and my prayers are going out for Pat & Joannie.

My thoughts and prayers are also with all the people and their loved ones that are devastated by this horrific tornado.

This really seems so minor but I've picked up a few EPs for April recently... thanks for this thread I took a look. I reentered one in a different category this month as it didn't have an EP earlier. They've got a lot of catching up to do and hope they are managing okay. I'd hate to lose BetterPhoto.

BetterPhoto members are the BEST!!!

5/21/2013 11:13:36 PM

  Bless you Kathy...you are my little guardian angle! :-) We had a ton of rain and high winds this morning but all is well now so not to worry! Pat lives a little north of Dallas and I don't know how things were up there! Bless all of you here at BP, I love my little family! :-) Thank you sister Sharon for your prayers!

5/22/2013 12:22:42 AM

  Glad to hear that Carolyn, Linda and Joannie (and hopefully Pat) are Ok. Thanks Kathy for the heads up.

It is the 22nd and they are still awarding EPs for the last week of April. That tells me they are way far behind vs a new protocol of awarding EPs with finalists. I'd be fine if they did it that way, btw. As it looks now something else is either taking up their time or they have less staff. Even if they stop the EP I will stay at BP. My drastically reduced #of entries for May is more due to other things going on which is in as much flux as the EP! lol

5/22/2013 4:03:55 AM

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  I'm fine! Thank you for your concern!! I'm not too far from Joannie, and we didn't have any tornadoes in our area. We had some pretty powerful winds yesterday, and heavy rain - but no damage.

5/22/2013 5:17:13 AM

  Big smiles to hear that my worries were for naught when it came to my BP friends. I've been a worrier most of my life when weather conditions threatened family members around the U.S. It was bad enough then... Now, I get to worry about hundreds of special photographers all over the World! lollll

5/22/2013 10:34:17 AM

  To Jim and the BP staff,
Why no editor picks in May?, I don't know. Is there computer program problems?, I don't know. Is the way your judging the program going to be in a different format?, I don't know. Did the contest get to be to big to handle?, I don't know.
Now that is the problem for me and for so many here at BP, we don't know. Why? Because it was felt that what ever concerns the customers have, you don't care enough to put out a message.
Can you afford for some of the customers to quit? Sure you can. Can you afford to let customers out in the dark?, sure you can.
To me, BP is the best photo sight on the net. Would I stay a member if you did away with the contest. Yep. I love the people I have met.
Would I recommend this sight to anyone? Sorry no. Would I want to take your classes? Not if this is the way you deal with your customers.
Leaving customers in the dark is just bad business.

5/22/2013 12:56:20 PM

  Great news to hear Joannie and Pat are okay!!! Prayers and thoughts are still going out to all those effected by this catastrophic storm

I think I received one more EP overnight for April but the one I really like still hasn't got one. Double Trouble who so many of you helped me decide on the best seagull image. (Scratching my head)

Oh well, it's not the first and it won't be the last I will just resubmit in the future when they are in a better mood. :)

Praying for BetterPhoto as well... seems they need them. :)

HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!

5/22/2013 1:35:28 PM

  Great to read all your thoughts, I only received 2 EP's for April and proceeded to delete all my entries, thinking they must not be worthy of a gallery position. I enjoy BP very much met some wonderful people -thx to all - maybe I won't be so quick to delete this mth. I got a little disheartened as at the same time as the number of EP'S depleted I received a flood of e-mails from BP suggesting I may need lessons :-), probably so and I was tempted but it will be at a time of my choosing not because of advertising. I do understand BP is a business and money has to be generated hence I am a paid up gallery holder until 2015. Thx for the chance to air my views. My thoughts to everyone in Oklahoma at this time, I know BP helped to keep me sane over the mths of earthquakes experienced in NZ. Cheers Barabara

5/22/2013 2:17:08 PM

  I have only 9 EP's for April...ohhh well, time will tell if any more for all of us, if not...maybe next month and they get things going next month! lol

Hey Frank, I tend to agree with you and Ken Smith, it sure took away some fun for all of us, maybe things will pick up..

Have a great day y'all!
Prayers to all those sick and in areas' of the terrible weather..

jo ann c.

5/22/2013 2:50:31 PM

 
 
 
Got an EP for May 2nd!!

5/22/2013 4:26:11 PM

  I didn't hit the submit button....was still trying to figure out how to include the link...

www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGallDetailMember.asp?photoID=13848109

5/22/2013 4:29:01 PM

  Yea!!! I got an EP for May! I have to say that the token reward means a lot to me. Pablov's dog syndrome. I got EP's on almost all of my shots in April but it took a long time. I am hopeful that the EP will continue just maybe a little slower. I am glad that all our BP photographers in Oklahoma and other areas are safe.

5/22/2013 4:29:49 PM

  Good to know that our fellow photogs are safe from that horrible tornado in Oklahoma.

Got one on May 1 but none so far on the May 2nd.


HAIRY
May 1, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Flowers


UB.

5/22/2013 8:37:12 PM

  I got one for 5/4/2013. Well said, Frank!

5/23/2013 3:30:03 AM

  Picked up EPs for the 2nd and 3rd. Frank I sure hope they give you an answer.

5/23/2013 3:41:50 AM

  Finally...one for the 4th..
Spring Colors...Landscape

5/23/2013 4:20:17 AM

 
Thanks to Group 101 I caught up on why no EPs. I know there are a lot of us using FB and are friends on this site. I post a lot of my images that are more about what I've been doing on FB, I would like to invite your friendship on FB if we are not already friends.

This is a great group, I was a fan of BP long before I became a member, shortly after I moved from Texas to Missouri I received an email from BP asking me to apply as an employee, sometimes I had wished I had, but didn't guess things work out for the best. I need to shop around for a private web page.
Have a great summer, look me up on FB.
Chuck

5/23/2013 8:29:22 AM

  No EPs for my resub on the 2nd. Now I have to wait for them to get to the 7th for my next entry :)

I have tried to look up some folks on FB and it seems many have member pages where you have to "friend." My photography page on FB is one that you have to "Like" so I can like you back but I can't friend you. Weird.

Here is my photography page on FB:
www.facebook.com/susansmithfineart

On my Member page I can friend you back:
www.facebook.com/susanhermannsmith

I would love to connect with you guys either way :)

5/23/2013 5:08:17 PM

  You elected to do a "community page" rather than a regular FB account.

By placing this
susansmithfineart
into the search box, you popped up immediately.

5/23/2013 5:17:38 PM

Lola M.
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  Beauty
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5/4 Details and Macro

5/24/2013 7:59:08 AM

  Got my first May EP today - May 5. If you look in my gallery, you will see one for the 3rd, but that's one that was originally skipped in April so I resubmitted it in May - only to have it picked up about 10 days ago when they did a few more scattered April EP's.

05/05 Nature and Landscapes
Front Yard #1

5/25/2013 12:45:50 PM

  Woot Woot, Nikki.. :-)

5/25/2013 12:51:34 PM

  Congrats to y'all that have received EFP's for May....I'm not doing too well myself! :-)

jo ann c.

5/25/2013 12:54:17 PM

  Congrats to y'all that have received EFP's for May....I'm not doing too well myself! :-)

jo ann c.

5/25/2013 12:54:50 PM

  Just that one on the 1st still for me. Nothing else. This really isn't much fun, is it?

5/25/2013 1:03:55 PM

  No, Mitch, it isn't :(

5/25/2013 1:09:00 PM

  Not a lot f fun at all, but you must admit, It makes picking a finalist and winner a breeze with so few to choose from.

5/25/2013 1:19:12 PM

  Well, if they're trying to reduce the numbers in the contest, maybe we should just oblige them and just enter one a week or something. I, for one, am totally just about over BP.

5/25/2013 1:25:02 PM

  It's weird. My schedule and To-Edit list both became overloaded around the first week of May, so I just didn't enter everything. I planned to do so a little later. Somehow the month has almost disappeared and now I can't force myself to do it. After March and April's poor showing - like maybe 8 and 2 EPs respectively, my enthusiasm has hit a low ebb. It's really depressing to go through the previous entries every time someone says that BP has gone back and awarded more EPs - only to discover Nada. I still have 6 more days (well, 5) to decide if anything I've shot this month are worthy. If I sound down and/or bitter, you're pretty perceptive.

5/25/2013 3:55:23 PM

  And another . . .

6 May - Elements of Design
Steps Reflected

5/25/2013 3:59:22 PM

  I only have one for May, 9 for April, and I'm royally pissed off.

5/25/2013 4:26:25 PM

  Just got one for May...Golden Duo....hang in there gang!

Who would think we could get so happy to just get an EP?! :-0

jo ann c.

5/25/2013 4:54:07 PM

  July 7th my membership expires. Anyone of FAA RB or Faceb Look me up. I will be leaving. Will miss all the great photographers, laughs and fun I have had on this site, but .........

5/25/2013 4:58:54 PM

  Might be joining you, Tammy, but will hang on to BP for at least another year, when I will get rid of my deluxe gallery, but will keep my basic gallery, and set up another on one of those places you have mentioned for a meager amount to sell my photos on. Then it will allow me to be both places, and I won't much care if I get an EFP or not!

5/25/2013 5:55:37 PM

  My membership is up June 4th. I really can't decide whether to renew or not. My enthusiasm isn't the same anymore either. I should be putting my time into FAA and some other things. Oh, and I sold my first piece there just a few days ago! wooohooo!

5/25/2013 6:00:32 PM

  I was hoping the lack of EPs last month was due to the staff being busy with preparing their taxes, but since this is still going on, it looks like the new norm. So far, I got May EPs on 5/2 (landscape) and 5/5 (macro). I didn't count my number of EPS for April, but there are 3 that were passed over that would have got EPS in any previous month. The lack of response of the BP staff is really not good business sense, and I do not understand it. I have already joined another site for the contests, but still enjoy this site for the friends that I made here. I do not do Facebook so won't go there. BP looks to be fading fast with no obvious attempt to revive it.

5/25/2013 6:37:43 PM

  Congratulations, Susan, on your first sale at FAA! I'm planning to go there soon, but I think I'll stay with BP, too, at least for a while. I'm still hoping they get things worked out, and communicate with us - that would be a step in the right direction.

5/25/2013 6:38:03 PM

  Hummmm, got one for May 4th too (ya!) But were did years of EPs' go? Use to be one could reload great shots for hours and never reach the end...

BP should really inform all what the issues are.... some type of communication on these type of changes

5/25/2013 7:13:20 PM

  I just got 2.. for the 5th and 6th of May...:) So far only one skipped.

5/25/2013 8:00:05 PM

  I have a solo EP to show so far this month and that too on the first day of the month. However, it has not been successful at all to dampen my enthusiasm for photography or in thinking that the quality of my shots has degraded.
I still love photography and have no intention of leaving BP. I have joined a couple of clubs here and the members do regular interaction and keep busy. I am still learning and enjoying IT very much.
I just hope BP, seemingly in the midst of change, makes these changes consistent so that people dont get demotivated and decide to leave for other places.

UB.

5/25/2013 9:33:06 PM

  5/7..Landscape..The Edge
2nd one for the month.

5/26/2013 3:54:18 AM

Ken Beatty
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  None for me since April 25... But still plugging a head and loving every minute of it....

5/26/2013 4:27:35 AM

  5/8, Animals..... 3 out of 8 for the month so far.... Do I hear half a Woot?? Wo!!!

5/26/2013 7:23:26 AM

  Don't get me wrong, I haven't lost my enthusiasm for photograpy nor do I think my work has gotten worse, it's my enthusiasm with the contest that kinda faded. Still love the members and all the great feedback here. I will likely renew because of that! :)

5/26/2013 7:25:36 AM

  It doesn't mean anything one way or another, but I was just wondering if anyone else noticed that the latest POTDs seem to be coming out of the recent Finalists' list.

I used to wonder how POTDs were selected because I usually didn't see them anywhere else (maybe from course assignments.) Now, they seem to all have Finalist Badges or at least EPs.

Just curious.

5/26/2013 10:30:21 AM

  It doesn't mean anything one way or another, but I was just wondering if anyone else noticed that the latest POTDs seem to be coming out of the recent Finalists' list.

I used to wonder how POTDs were selected because I usually didn't see them anywhere else (maybe from course assignments.) Now, they seem to all have Finalist Badges or at least EPs.

Just curious.

5/26/2013 10:30:21 AM

  I have noticed - and that is a change. Maybe it's just coincidence.

5/26/2013 10:48:07 AM

Lola M.
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BetterPhoto.com Photo Contest Finalist
 
Peeking Over
Peeking Over
 
 
5/8 Details and Macro
also the 2nd for the month

5/26/2013 1:33:06 PM

 
 
  Breaking Free
Breaking Free
this little girls mom was trying to get her to hold her hand and walk. the little girl broke free and I just loved the expression on her face.
 
 
well got my first EP since the middle of April... my 5/7 was skipped over and I thought it was one of my best shots... MMMM

5/26/2013 4:02:34 PM

  Kathy, I'm not sure what you are seeing but I've always observed POTDs as usually making it into the Finalist pool not from it. It was a question not long ago about what rate of POTDs made finalist or winner. I seem to recall an estimated 75% or so do make it at least to silver. I got mine on Jan 7th and it was an entry from late Dec. It went on to get a Dec finalist. Would not surprise me if that were a bit bassakward right now.

Got my first EP for May for Sun's Out on the 9th. My other two entries were resubs that didn't get EPs before either.

5/26/2013 4:09:01 PM

  May 10..One To Remember..Landscape

5/26/2013 4:14:28 PM

Lola M.
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  Lovely Lavender
Lovely Lavender
 
 
5/10 Flowers

5/26/2013 4:26:06 PM

  The April Finalists are out - anybody have the Link?

5/26/2013 5:41:01 PM

  Here you go, Kathy, I think this will work.

http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGallMember.asp?pageID=1&catID=56845&contestCatID=&camID=&zulu=

5/26/2013 5:45:48 PM

  Any page, Contest, Contest, Finalists.

April 2013 Finalists

5/26/2013 5:47:16 PM

  http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGall2.asp?catID=56845 Direct Link

Those URLs with zulu in them always give me an error message. I finally figured out how to find the direct link (sure hope I remember how next month! lollllllllll)

5/26/2013 5:47:56 PM

  Interesting ... I just tested it and found that Firefox and Internet Explorer produce links that look different. ( Mine was the Firefox link.)
However, in my test, the Firefox link worked in IE, and vice versa.
I'm no techie ... perhaps other browsers work differently ...
Anyway, glad you found it, Kathy. :)

5/26/2013 6:00:08 PM

  Got a finalist. "Tulips in Full Bloom"


http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/gallery.asp?mem=161216

jo ann c.

5/26/2013 6:11:49 PM

  Congratulations to the finalists.

I got two this month one in flowers a lily and the other in People an image of Keshia the young model I used for my people model on Better photo the past nine years.

I put the finalists first in my gallery.

5/26/2013 7:03:33 PM

  Kinda strange, I am not getting any EP's but I have five finalist! :) Congrats to everyone!!! Good luck next round!!

5/26/2013 7:29:38 PM

  Hi Photo Folks,
It just keeps getting stranger. I got 4 finalists for April so I am very pleased as this is the largest amount for me ever but here it is May 26th and I have 2 EP's for May. Now maybe the EP's will appear during June so perhaps there is not any deadline for awarding EP's. I tried another site and find it hard to use. I truly hope BP is here to stay. I am going to hang in there as long as I can. Congratulations to all the finalists.

5/26/2013 9:17:51 PM

  I've been cruising through the Finalists, but haven't been able to comment on them all yet. In the meantime, Congratulations to those of you who've received one or many. Good Luck in the Gold Rounds.

5/27/2013 1:27:48 AM

Bob D. Hall
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  Hi, all! I have been away from this forum for a while due to a browser crash loosing my link, traveling, an ill grandson and an ill wife.
Entered a few photos in April and got one finalist (Nice BD gift). I have had no EFPs for May. My membership here is due to renew in July but I can't see paying for a membership if the present trend continues.
Been here since 2002 and I hate to leave but.... Hope things go back to normal!

5/28/2013 9:04:42 AM

  Congrats to all the finalists. Even though the whole EP thing has thrown me for a loop, I can see that every image chosen for finalist is really beautiful!

5/28/2013 10:25:34 AM

  Well?! I got a finalist in Aprl and only got 8 EP'S?? Sooo...maybe it doesn't matter how many EP's we get, we can still get a finalist.. I liked the one I got, but personally would have chosen others instead so..I'm happy anyway.. :-) Hang in there gang!

jo ann c.

5/28/2013 10:50:07 AM

  I'm thinking that the EPs are no longer related to Finalists (as a first cut.) It may be that they're being awarded whenever (and mostly after the fact) to assuage the unrest of members.

5/28/2013 11:03:39 AM

  I AGREE WITH JO ANN... PLEASE HANG IN THERE GANG. I'D HATE TO SEE YOU GO.

I DON'T ENTER AN IMAGE HOPING IT WILL GET A EFP, I ENTER ONLY WHAT I THINK BP IS AWARDING FINALISTS TO. SO LESS ENTRIES BUT ONLY MY BEST. HOPE THAT HELPS.

I KNOW THEY STILL ARE MISSING EXCELLENT IMAGES BUT PLEASE RE-ENTER AS SOME TIMES IT HAS TAKEN ME THREE TIMES TO GET A FINALIST OR SECOND PLACE WIN.

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE RECEIVED EFPs AND FINALISTS AND ALL THE BEST IN THE NEXT ROUND!!!

ALSO I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT BP WAS THE BEST PLACE TO SELL MY WORK AS OTHER SITES SEEM TO OFFER BETTER OPTIONS. I'M HERE FOR THE PEOPLE, THE CONTEST AS IT PUSHES ME TO IMPROVE MY WORK AS I AM VERY COMPETITIVE AND FOR THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE.

I UNDERSTAND THIS IS JUST MY OPINION AND I RECOGNIZE A CARE ABOUT THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE DIFFERENT FEELINGS ABOUT BP AT THIS TIME.

FROM WHAT I'VE GATHERED BP HAS NEVER BEEN GOOD AT COMMUNICATING TO IT'S MEMBERS AND THERE IS NO POINT IN BEATING A DEAD HORSE... IT MAY TAKE A MIRACLE FOR THEM TO CHANGE.

TO THOSE WHO LEAVE... YOU WILL BE SURELY MISSED!!! ALL THE BEST TO YOU IN YOUR NEW ENDEAVORS AND THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO HAVE HELPED ME GROW AS A PHOTOGRAPHER AND WHO HAVE SUPPORTED ME WITH THEIR COMMENTS OF ENCOURAGEMENT!!!!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS! <><

5/28/2013 11:33:01 AM

  What a wonderful sentiment expressed here, Sharon. There is something for everyone to consider and appreciate.

Thanks so much,
Marilyn

5/28/2013 4:13:28 PM

  I posted this in the countdown thread but want to express my congratulations here, as well, to all the winners and finalists for April!

I know that many of us are still confused or feeling disheartened about the changes here. My gallery is up for renewal in a couple days. I think I want to keep it up but just not be as active. To be completely honest, I have not given some other things the attention I should have because I would put BP first. I think it was because of the fun of it, the challenge and the feedback. These changes have taken some (not all!) of the wind out of those sails.

I haven't been making FAA a priority or preparing for my own portrait biz, where I could make more money than the studio where I work now. Also, I've been asked to cover two full days of our HS graduations for one of our local news sites as their photog/reporter. I'll be making some good contacts as well as seeing many of the grads (and their families!) that I photographed at our studio. And we, myself included, do way better work than the company (Prestige) that the schools hire. I feel like this could help launch me more into local biz opps, so I need to be ready to carpe diem! lol.

All that aside I still want to and hope I have the time to be a part of BP! Even tho I'm not crazy about the changes at BP, hopefully my lack of participation here will be because of the positive and not the negative :)

5/29/2013 5:11:32 AM

  It's hard to balance time-priorities between wants and needs. It sounds as though Needs are moving up your To-Do List, Susan. I'm looking forward to what time you can spend here at BP, but am wishing you the best of luck in your photo-biz life, too.

5/29/2013 8:16:49 AM

  I echo Kathy's comment. I enjoy your work, Susan, and hope to continue to see you around BP.

Same to ALL the wonderfully talented (!!!) photographers here at BP. I love any time I can spend admiring and learning from your inspiring work. I am a newbie to photography and have a looooooong way to go, and this site and the many friendly folks here spur me on to learn and try to improve every time I pick up my camera. I thank you all!

5/30/2013 10:53:07 AM

  Peggy, try to keep your horizontal lines straight and poles from sticking out of peoples' heads. Then, you can work on improving all the other camera-skills! (those were my first lessons.) lollll

5/30/2013 12:34:29 PM

  Good advice, Kathy, LOL!!!

5/30/2013 5:38:19 PM

  Considering your list of Winners, you're doing okay with your camera skills already! lolll

5/30/2013 5:55:09 PM

  Considering your list of Winners, you're doing okay with your camera skills already! lolll

5/30/2013 5:55:09 PM

  Peggy! Your gallery is awesome, I think I can learn from you girl! I'm happy for you!

I enjoyed looking at your gallery.. I think we all can learn from each other for sure..

jo ann c.

5/30/2013 6:12:18 PM

  Thanks so much for your encouragement, Kathy and Jo Ann! You are both very kind!

5/30/2013 6:22:12 PM

Ken Beatty
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  This is wild! I received No EPS for the month of May! Wow!

6/2/2013 4:01:19 AM

  Just one EP for me in May. Maybe I'll go check those horizontal lines...

6/2/2013 4:05:16 AM

  Here's an idea..let's all go shut off our EPs. Then we won't know if we didn't get any. I'm seriously thinking about just dropping this contest anyway. It's not worth all the angst.

6/2/2013 4:11:12 AM

  None for me either Ken. 0 out of 13 entries is not normal for me. It sure doesn't encourage you to enter. Maybe they aren't through yet and more will appear this month.

6/2/2013 4:16:14 AM

  No one has reported any after the 10th and the ones from the 1st through the 10th came in a brief spurt of activity from the 19th to the 26th. I'd say there's still plenty of hope for entries between May 11 and 31.

6/2/2013 4:58:37 AM

  I agree with Nikki and have looked around and haven't seen any EFP's after 5/9. My guess is that they are short handed. I have noticed that the POTD has changed as well. It used to be that the POTD were original shots that may or may not have gone on to finalist, etc. Now it seems that they are picking them from images that have already been picked as finalists. Again I'm sure this is due to being short handed. Personally I love BP and the friends I have made here, so I just hope it survives.

6/2/2013 5:24:18 AM

  Last I received was for May was two ...May 3rd and May 5th..

jo ann c.

6/2/2013 6:10:16 AM

  Two for me in May so far. Upon looking at the EP's, there are some stunning photos as well as some so-so photos. I will keep plugging away and hope for the best.

6/2/2013 7:44:14 AM

  Just fyi - today's POTD had no previous badges except an EP :)

6/3/2013 12:47:37 PM

  I noticed that too, Nikki - made me wonder if "they" have been reading all of our thread comments and decided it was too much of a pattern to choose POTDs from the Finalist List (a newer identifiable pattern.) lolllllllllllll

6/3/2013 1:11:57 PM

  Oh, I don't think there's any doubt they read the forum threads - Jim has even said so, I think. They just don't often reply to or post in them.

6/3/2013 1:31:32 PM

  I think I'll stay out of the contest. It used to be an encouragement for me when I got an EP. It let me know that I did something pretty good and was moving on. I've only ever gotten two finalists and I'm very proud of them. The most I've submitted in a month to the contest is five and that was a few months ago. I've been down to two or three. I just don't see any reason to participate in the contest anymore. I'm a member of three clubs and it much more beneficial for me as there is friendly encouragement and technique tips. I do enjoy the fun of the forum, too! I like to read about the successes of fellow photographers and look at the beautiful photos ya'll take!

6/4/2013 11:19:38 AM

  Today is a major anniversary for me. On June 4th, 2004 a friend gave me a Samsung 300 camera and I shot my first digital photograph. That changed the course of my life forever. What a blessing, eh?

6/4/2013 12:46:30 PM

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  What I miss most about the lack of EP's is coming here each night after work to see everyone's images.

6/4/2013 5:41:37 PM

  Kathy, happy anniversary to you and your Samsung 300...here is to another 9 yrs.! :-)

6/4/2013 5:43:40 PM

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  Autumn Stroll
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5/11 Nature and Landscapes.

EP just showed up this morning.

6/5/2013 8:39:19 AM

 
 
  Corrugated III
Corrugated III

Four Seasons Hotel, Houston, Texas
 
 
Yippee skippee! An EP!

5/10
Elements of Design

6/5/2013 2:27:00 PM

  5/12..Landscape..Wave Patterns

6/6/2013 9:18:45 AM

  5/11 Flowers just popped up.

6/6/2013 9:28:02 AM

 
 
  A study in lines
A study in lines
Buren columns in Paris France.
 
 
feel so blessed got my second EP for May LOL

6/6/2013 1:14:35 PM

 
 
  The One that Got Me Hooked ...
The One that Got Me Hooked ...

Not my first (or last!) digital camera, but definitely the one that got me hooked on photography ... :)
Playing with my new Speedlite.
Basic adjustments in CS5.
 
 
5/11 Details & Macro :)

6/6/2013 6:52:11 PM

 

May 2, 3, 4, 6 and 7 got skipped.

Joy Of Photography EP resub.
May 5, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Monthly Theme

URBAN JUNGLE
May 8, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Elements of Design

Where Clouds Play
May 9, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Nature & Landscapes

Long, Long, Long
May 10, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Catch-All

All Indoors EP resub.
May 11, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Travel & Place

Reflection Pond
May 12, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Animals



6/6/2013 8:39:24 PM

 
 
 
my my my another EP

6/7/2013 11:38:22 AM

  5/2 landscape, 5/5 macro, 5/6 landscape, 5/12 MT got EPs. 4 others skipped in that time.

6/7/2013 12:36:28 PM

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  None so far for May. Weird!

6/7/2013 1:47:02 PM

  One can't help but feel a bit of a failure here at BP these days! In Feb I received my very first First Place badge, in March one EP, in April one EP and now in May none...there has to be a method to this madness and I'm evidentily not a part of it! Just can't help but feel discouraged, thank you for listening!

6/7/2013 1:56:58 PM

  Oh but, Joannie - no EPs don't mean you're a failure at BP. Just ask anyone who has 4 or more Finalists a month!

Sorry, couldn't resist saying that.

6/7/2013 2:08:55 PM

  5/13..flowers: Spring Bling

6/7/2013 3:25:57 PM

  May 8- Spring In The High Country
May 12- April Showers Bring May Flowers- a 3rd resubmit.

6/7/2013 3:39:29 PM

  Joannie? Put on the heaviest pair of shoes you own........and, then kick yourself in the ass!! You do fine work!!!!

:-)

6/7/2013 5:02:06 PM

  But I have such a little ass...NOT! :-) Thank you Bob!

6/7/2013 5:23:14 PM

  There ya go! See? It's all subjective...asses and images.. (sometimes I crack myself up)...

An EP for the 13th, Carolyn? I didn't get one for the 13th! I'm doomed....

6/7/2013 5:49:03 PM

  Oh, NO! Not DOOMED!! How awful for you~

6/7/2013 6:47:49 PM

  My entry from the 11th didn't get an EP. Next entry was on the 21st so I'll probably be waiting awhile. I wanted to thank ya'll for the chuckles :)

Am also curious, now that we've got these changes in effect for a couple of months, what the stats look like now. I need to conjure up Chris Budny. Chris...you out there? I'm wondering what are the number of entries and finalists for the last couple of months?

6/8/2013 3:01:14 AM

  Zero, zip, nada...

6/8/2013 4:24:46 AM

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5/13 Elements of Design

6/8/2013 9:52:00 AM

  It feels good to see that I'm not the only one getting discouraged with the delay and the lack of EPs...even though we all take a lot out of participation in clubs and forum, the little EP badge, at least for me, represented a source of daily encouragement. Today I got my 4th one for May (entered on May 11th) - Morning Swim. It appears that they are going back and forth in a complete disorganized way; no method and thus very difficult to make any prediction or set expectations.
Beatriz

6/8/2013 2:41:20 PM

  I have only 2, one on the 3rd and one on the 10th I think...I'm gonna just keep on keeping on and hopefully will get more but will continue enjoying many of your super pictures.

Keep up the faith gang!

jo ann c.

6/8/2013 3:05:29 PM

  Finally got one for Pink Sweet Peas which I posted on 5/13...one is better then none :-)

6/8/2013 3:20:07 PM

  Missed the 13th (which I kinda figured)... Just got one for the 14!!

6/8/2013 7:22:51 PM

  5/14..Landscape..It's All Over

6/9/2013 2:48:43 AM

  Finally a new EP, only the third of those for me for new submissions in May. This in Elements of Design for the 15th.

It's Grand

6/9/2013 5:36:23 PM

  5/15..T/P..Mountain Fork River

6/9/2013 5:48:10 PM

  I've received only 3 EPs for May, and I've submitted every day. I don't take the contest seriously any more... it seems that they select EPs randomly and much less frequently than ever before. If this continues, I'll submit photos until my portfolio expires (September 2014) and then bye-bye.

6/9/2013 11:50:51 PM

  In this new BP approach, EPs are decided so late after the postings that I would prefer they leave them out and just award the finalists. Timeliness seemed to be key in enjoying the EP selections. So, while there are a few for May so far, there's not nearly the fun for me in receiving them.

6/10/2013 4:14:18 AM

  2 more EPs :-) Woodend Lighthouse 5/14, and Protea Big and Little 5/15...That is 3 in a row...It just seems strange to get the EPs in the middle of the next month? Just happy to see a few :-)

6/10/2013 6:47:44 AM

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  Just noticed an EFP for 5/15. My 1st for May and by far not the best in MHO. I will also submit till my gallery expires and then find somewhere else to post my photos.
Most of us post for validation. I know that most of my art is good but that validation from the pros has been very nice. I will miss all the friends I have made here (any of you feel free to write me at (bdhall07@yahoo.com)) but for the price I can find a better place to have a gallery.

6/10/2013 12:23:25 PM

 
 
  The Other Pyramid
The Other Pyramid
taken at the louvre in paris
 
 
another EP

6/10/2013 5:39:26 PM

  My last one was the 13th - People

A Cold One

Glad to get this one as I had it pegged for a skip since it does not fit my idea of the BP image.

Pretty sure the 14th has been skipped - which surprises me just as much since I thought it fit the profile much better. That's what I get for thinking LOL.

6/11/2013 4:46:55 PM

  My most recent is on the 14th -- nothing after that.

6/11/2013 5:02:21 PM

  What is an EP, would someone please remind me what an EP is! My memory fails me...I've been sick you know! Ok, so it's been 15 months since I was sick but my memory won't congure up an EP! :-)

6/11/2013 8:19:18 PM

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  None for me either. I think around 20th of April was my last!

6/11/2013 8:26:48 PM

  Editor's Pick, Joannie. Used to be Editor's First Pick, as in first round of the culling process for picking the winners.
Now, it's EPM (extremely peeved members)....

(Should I put my boots on and kick myself now?)

6/11/2013 8:50:59 PM

  Bob - you're making me smile! Stop it! It's hard to stay irritated when my mouth is chuckling.

6/11/2013 10:40:09 PM

  Bob, put on the heaviest size 13's you have and go for it! :-)))

6/11/2013 11:03:21 PM

  So far only 2 for me

Riding the Tube 5/14 Catch All
Bel fiore 5/16 Flowers

I haven't entered anything in June so far. Not enjoying it as before.

6/12/2013 5:15:03 AM

  I just realized I had 950 posts and we are allowed only 900! I have deleted over 200. Am re-submitting some but in different categories...

Just thought some of you may have the same problem and want to check how many you have..have a good day!

jo ann c.

6/12/2013 7:59:36 AM

  You may display 1000 photos in your gallery, you don't have to delete the rest: it's enough to uncheck the box for displaying this photo in your gallery.

6/12/2013 8:05:24 AM

  Tiia is right its 1000.

6/12/2013 8:08:37 AM

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  Soft Landing
Soft Landing
 
 
5/16 Catch All

6/12/2013 8:21:49 AM

  Thanks Tia and Tammy! Where is does it say that?
Don't know how I missed it but glad to know it..

6/12/2013 9:03:14 AM

  Duhhhh....right on the Member Center first page when I get ready to post....cheezzzz!

jo ann c.

6/12/2013 9:07:20 AM

  Bend over, Jo Ann - Bob's cranking up that big ol' boot! ;-D

6/12/2013 2:48:05 PM

  Kick easy Bob! lol

Well, I did get one May 15th, that makes THREE! Whoopee! :-0

Doesn't take much to make me happy...lol

jo ann c.

6/12/2013 3:32:32 PM

  Well, I'm not hot on EPs, but, that big boot of mine is sure making it's rounds... :-)

Way to go, Jo Ann...

6/12/2013 3:49:45 PM

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  One for the 16th. (EVLP)
Editors Very Late Pick!

6/12/2013 5:33:11 PM

  I only entered one image for May (27th.) IF it gets an EP, I won't expect it until July 12th. lolllllllllllll

6/12/2013 5:44:15 PM

  I didn't expect this one ... of course, I don't really expect any lately. :o

I'm with Nikki, I don't know what the BP preferences are anymore ...

Room Without a View
5/15 Elements of Design

6/12/2013 5:49:33 PM

 
 
BetterPhoto.com Photo Contest Finalist
 
Room Without a View
Room Without a View

Finalist - Elements of Design - May 2013

Window of a small building in an old cemetery in Galveston, Texas.
Minor adjustments in CS5.
 
 
I didn't expect this one ... of course, I don't really expect any lately. :o

I'm with Nikki, I don't know what the BP preferences are anymore ...

Room Without a View
5/15 Elements of Design

6/12/2013 5:49:43 PM

  Sorry for the double post ... hit the button before attaching the photo the first time ... :(

6/12/2013 5:51:05 PM

 

May 13 got skipped.

Frozen in Time
May 14, 2013 ~ ~ ~ People

Serenity Walk
May 15, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Catch-All



6/12/2013 8:33:52 PM

  It looks like the EP link is empty again. I'm not sure why they can't keep it active until all the prior month's EPs are given.

http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery-editors-current.asp

6/13/2013 7:08:47 AM

  5/17..DD.. Blue Ridge Cabin

6/13/2013 8:55:53 AM

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5/17 Animals

6/13/2013 9:07:39 AM

  I used to follow that EP Link until I realized that the Reload button was bringing up former EP images (maybe, they were resubs) and a lot of repeats. I finally just stuck with these here in Cheri's monthly thread. But, it is definitely strange to have nothing in the EP Queue.

6/13/2013 9:28:08 AM

 

May 16 got skipped.

PLANETARIUM
May 17, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Details & Macro



6/13/2013 8:34:35 PM

  Pretty sure somebody turned my gallery off LOL

6/13/2013 8:40:24 PM

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  Nikki, I think mine is off as well! :)

6/14/2013 4:21:17 AM

  Nikki and Pat - perhaps there was a technical glitch - they both are displaying now...

6/14/2013 5:48:46 AM

  Thanks for checking, Marilyn - I was actually just kidding. My last EP was on the 13th and people are reporting some on the 17th already so I thought maybe the EP pickers could not see my entries :)

6/14/2013 6:54:13 AM

  Got one over night for the 18th... Catch All...

6/14/2013 6:58:09 AM

  5/19..Macro..Another Sunset Feather

6/14/2013 3:40:28 PM

  5/19..Macro..Another Sunset Feather

6/14/2013 3:40:32 PM

  May 19th!! I thought I'd been EPB'd ... Phew!!!

6/14/2013 3:44:18 PM

  LOL Bob!!! That's it! I'm going to be a judge!!! Did anyone else other than Kara get an EFP for the 18th? I should at least get an E for Effort. :)

6/14/2013 4:50:11 PM

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5/19 Details and Macro

6/14/2013 4:57:49 PM

  Me, Sharon. I did! My first in several days.

May 18 Monthly Theme
Photographing Chicago

6/14/2013 5:36:22 PM

  Surprise, surprise! I got one May 15th, "Yea, Turn Out for Spring!"

jo ann c.

6/14/2013 6:04:27 PM

  Thanks Nikki. Great shot of the bean for the monthly theme.

My photo first entry for the month

His First Camera

I took out some spaces in my description line in case I had used too many words and there was no room for an EFP to show up. LOL Didn't help.

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND EVERYONE.
HOPEFULLY THE EFPs WILL FLOW!!!

6/14/2013 6:30:13 PM

 

Sun & Sand
May 18, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Nature & Landscapes

Non-Geometrical
May 19, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Elements of Design



6/16/2013 9:33:04 PM

  Is anyone else having advertisements come on your their description of their photos. I find it happens with words like camera and photo. I changed the wording to image and it stopped.

When you run your cursor over uploaded as in the date when you uploaded the photo it turns to blue and you get an advertisement. It doesn't just happen on my page but I just checked Usman's Non-Geometrical image and it happened there as well.

I only started noticing it yesterday.

HAVE A GREAT WEEK EVERYONE!!!

6/16/2013 9:56:50 PM

  Well, Peggy - Way to go, girl!! An EP and a POTD on your entry for May 5th. Congrats.

6/17/2013 5:46:26 AM

 
 
 
May 17-Sunrise Surprise

6/17/2013 6:02:36 AM

  Thanks so much, Kathy, and all who commented on my POTD! Such an honor! I am truly thrilled and humbled by all the lovely comment I am getting!
Thank you!!!

6/17/2013 6:54:24 AM

  An EP for the 20th in Catch-All

Tickets Please

6/17/2013 8:48:03 AM

  Just in last few minutes got an EP for the 19th - my first since the 14th so suppose everything in between got passed over.

6/17/2013 9:13:30 AM

  Well, now there is one for the 21st, animals.

Dropping In

6/17/2013 9:31:04 AM

  5/21..Landscape.. Sammy's World(resubmit)

6/17/2013 9:38:46 AM

  Looks like EFPs are flowing again. Two for me. Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!

The pop-up problem has been solved thanks to Jay at BP. My add-on settings were wrong... fixed now... so I'm happy.

Wishing you all a month full of wonderful photo opportunities and the recognition you deserve for your work.

6/17/2013 12:15:24 PM

  Woot Woot! 3 in a row for me...19/20/21... I took my boots off and put my soft slippers on... ;-)

6/17/2013 5:34:11 PM

  Skipped 19th and 21st. Got one in DD for the 20th and one in N&L for the 22nd. My image for the 23rd was a resub and already had one. We may make it yet :)
Disclosure
Moonlight at Avila Beach

6/17/2013 5:50:13 PM

  5/22..Animals..The Squeaky Toy Is MINE!

6/17/2013 5:59:55 PM

  Did something wrong - I'll try again.
Moonlight at Avila Beach

6/17/2013 6:07:22 PM

  So Bob, what about those of us who haven't received one single EP since the first part of March? This is really starting to SUCK! I hate to sulk but I have absolutely no confidence with me or BP...All of you have gotten some rewards and I'm really glad for all of you, it just brings more assurance to me that I just don't have what BP wants any more! Oh well, what the hell!

6/17/2013 11:00:04 PM

  Joannie, it just doesn't make sense. Going from all the EP's and finalists to O, it does seem odd.

6/18/2013 3:19:35 AM

  5/23..Landscape..Sky And Shore
That does suck, Joannie! Not good at all!

6/18/2013 3:40:20 AM

  It also seems so odd that some members are going from 2 or 3 Finalists (1-4) per month are now receiving 5 - 7 and others who occasionally enjoyed 1 are not even seeing that single Finalist badge. And without EPs, they never will.

It's really discouraging for us "not top of the food chain" members.

6/18/2013 4:12:06 AM

  It also seems so odd that some members are going from 2 or 3 Finalists (1-4) per month are now receiving 5 - 7 and others who occasionally enjoyed 1 are not even seeing that single Finalist badge. And without EPs, they never will.

It's really discouraging for us "not top of the food chain" members.

6/18/2013 4:12:06 AM

 

May 21 was skipped.

Lying Low
May 20, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Nature & Landscapes

Summer of '69
May 22, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Digital Darkroom

21 Galahs
May 23, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Animals


6/18/2013 4:34:45 AM

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  Joannie - Don't feel too bad. I've only gotten 2 EFPs this month. I was hitting .900 before that (now less than .100). I thought it was because I had a reference to FAA on my gallery. Things didn't really change that much after I deleted the reference. I'm just glad that people are getting EFPs and that give me hope.

6/18/2013 5:07:48 AM

  Got 1 the 21st, "Some where over the Rainbow"

jo ann c.

6/18/2013 6:40:34 AM

 
 
 
5/20-Sound Holes

6/18/2013 6:39:07 PM

  I cannot seem to figure out how to upload to the forum as I have done before-not working for me :(

6/18/2013 6:46:07 PM

  May 24 – Nature and Landscapes
Field of Gold

6/18/2013 8:42:04 PM

 

May 24 got skipped.

Pew View
May 25, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Travel & Place

Designer Abode
May 26, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Elements of Design


6/19/2013 12:49:33 AM

  5/24..T/P..Eufaula Dam Spring 2013
5/25..Skipped
5/26..Catch All.. Shells

6/19/2013 2:49:17 AM

  Yeaaaaaaaaaaa. Batting 1000. One entry/one EP!

< href=http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/big.asp?photoID=13895902>May 27 – Fringed

6/19/2013 3:35:34 AM

  Yeaaaaaaaaaaa. Batting 1000. One entry/one EP!

< href=http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/big.asp?photoID=13895902>May 27 – Fringed

6/19/2013 3:35:34 AM

  < href=http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/big.asp?photoID=13895902>May 27 – Fringed

Darn it. Trying one more time.

6/19/2013 5:18:19 AM

  Hey, Joannie! How's the attitude this morning?? Ya think doing the Hokey Pokey might cheer you up?? I've heard that that's what it's all about.... :-)

6/19/2013 6:21:43 AM

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Yah! I got one for this image!

6/19/2013 6:33:47 AM

  Love that one Ken...maybe things are beginning to crank up, I got one 5-26, Early Morning at Mabry Mills, 5-21,Somewhere Over the Rainbow,
and 5-23 and Purple Rain!

Guess we are more appreciating "just an EP" again, huh? :-)

jo ann c.

6/19/2013 6:45:13 AM

  Seems like they are trying to catch up:

Washoe Lake on a windy Day-5/21
Over Morning Fences-5/28
Seconds before sunrise-5/28

6/19/2013 7:43:43 AM

  They have mine done all the way to the 31st... Overall this month I received 22 ep's out of 31 entries... Many coming in the past 2 days..

6/19/2013 8:19:12 AM

  Mine are done to the 31st too. 18 EP's out of 30 entries.

6/19/2013 8:53:08 AM

  Yes, it looks as though they are finished with the month, with this big spurt. I picked up a number of them also, with most of the skips in the first half of the month. Had quite a number of resubs for the month that had EPs, so can't tell anything about that. Now, it appears they've started on June. Picked up this one for the 1st.

Female Anhinga On Watch

6/19/2013 9:36:39 AM

  Bob, you are my number 1 cheerleader! :-) OK, everyone sit down...I have TWO EP's...yes, you read it right, two EP's! It seems a little pissing and moaning pays off! :-) After 83 days I'm out of dry dock!

Dam
5/24
Dry Docked
5/26

6/19/2013 9:37:55 AM

  5-30 Sierra Morning Glow

6/19/2013 9:48:08 AM

  5/29..Landscape..The Miracle Of Sunset
And one for June

6/19/2013 10:13:50 AM

  Woot Woot for Joannie... :-)

I just got one for June 3rd!!

6/19/2013 10:55:22 AM

  Yep, I did too (and one for the 2nd also). Major change going on here???? Only the Shadow knows. :) (Hey, you have to be of a "certain" age to relate to that.)

Two-Faced

6/19/2013 12:09:39 PM

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  Here you go peeps....Junes thread..:)

http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=35989

6/19/2013 4:26:06 PM

 

May 28 got skipped. Don’t know about May 30 and 31st as they were resubs with badges already attached from previous months.

Singing a Summer Song
May 27, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Flowers

Shooting Melbourne
May 29, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Monthly Theme


6/19/2013 11:07:57 PM

  I sent in feedback to Betterphoto that they consider rethinking the Editor's Picks tab under the Contest heading.

Nothing was being displayed for the first half of June - but the promo along the bottom says:

"Editor's Picks represent uploaded photos that Team BetterPhoto has found especially interesting, eye-catching, or beautiful. They are simply contest entries that have moved on from Round 1 of the contest judging."

It gives the impression that there aren't any such images all through the beginning of June.

June picks started showing up this week...

6/20/2013 3:27:50 AM

  Interesting ... an EP showed up for my 5/14 entry, which was passed over before.

Goldilocks

6/20/2013 8:48:28 PM

  Same thing happened to me on my May 13 and May 16 entries which were initially passed over, I am happy as a smile ;)

UB.

6/20/2013 8:52:57 PM

  Me too, UB, I'll take any EP I can get! :)

6/20/2013 9:02:39 PM

  Would someone, if at all possible, explain why BP gives out EP's for June when they are not through with May yet and why do they go back in the month of May and start giving EP's for images posted earlier in the month?

Along the Fence
6/23

6/21/2013 1:52:30 PM

  Sorry the date on the Blue Bonnets Along the Fence photo should read 5/23

6/21/2013 8:37:45 PM

  Hey Joannie ...."Only the Shadow Knows!" lol


jo annc.

6/22/2013 1:14:28 PM

  So I'm at 4/8 on EPs for May and that includes one that got skipped over before that I just got. My guess is that there are different "Editors" and they go thru entries at different times.

I guess this is the new "new" so I'm just gonna look at it as EPs are awarded (or finalized) right before Finalists. If it doesn't go on to Finalist then it's basically a runner-up. I feel like what they ultimately did was to eliminate the early rounds, or picks. In other words EPs that would have gotten eliminated early on just aren't getting them now. If that make sense?

6/22/2013 2:12:57 PM

  The jumping around is making me jumpy. It's one thing to check your entries and not find an EP (perhaps, a moment of disappointment, but hope lives on for the next bunch.) This going back to the future back to the past back to the whatever date just to see if you lucked out after all is producing hives!

6/22/2013 3:07:13 PM

  Very happy to see another EP popped up under an image which was originally devoid of any :)

UB.

6/23/2013 1:59:01 AM

  A couple of my May entries got belated EPs as well - really screwing up trying to keep track of them in my galleries - but so far this month I've pretty much been persona non grata. It's been great to be a member up to this point, but the only constant is that things change (and unfortunately, not always for the better). Oh well!

6/24/2013 1:16:16 PM

  Did anyone involved in this forum get more than a Finalist in the May contest? So far, I counted me and one other who did not- I'm curious, but then you know what happens to those that protest, and are curious....:(

7/1/2013 7:12:40 AM

  I got a 2nd place in d&m.....

7/1/2013 7:21:36 AM

  Jeana got a second in T&P.

Here is the link for the Winners List...
http://www.betterphoto.com/contest/winners/1305.asp

7/1/2013 7:32:04 AM

  I only got a finalist on "Prepare for Landing" which was the water drop. Since I only got 6 or 7 EP's, guess that was pretty good... I'm just now checking the winners..
Congrats to those that did get 2nd Place!!

jo ann c.

7/1/2013 7:38:08 AM

  I had four finalists, no winners. I have to say that the competition was very strong ... all the finalists and winners are fantastic and I am very flattered to have received my finalists.
Congrats to all!

7/1/2013 7:47:24 AM

  Congrats to all the finalists and winners!

Have they done any June EPs and if so, what date are they at?

7/1/2013 9:16:48 AM

  I've received EFP's through 6/12. Not sure after that.

7/1/2013 9:23:34 AM

  I got one this morning for the 13th.

7/1/2013 10:30:33 AM

  6-9 "ON THE LOOK OUT"
6-3 "PINK IS BEAUTIFUL"

jo ann c.

7/1/2013 11:17:06 AM

  My finalist for May had been submitted from a year or so ago.

Here is part of a message from Jim at BP: RULES CHANGE:
I also wanted to let you know that, as of today, we're not going to allow re-entry of photos. Only enter a photo once. When you go to enter again and again (which we encourage), use different photos.

jo ann c.

The intention of the contest is to help us all get out creating more often. Every single photo is examined by more than one of our pro judges; if your great photo doesn't make it to the final rounds, don't allow yourself to feel bad about it. Just take it to mean the competition was steep...and BE INSPIRED to keep trying, with different photos.

My dream is to see your photography get better and better, and to see you continue to have a great time making great photos.

Keep up the awesome shooting and thanks again for the inspiration!

Thanks,
Jim

P.S. Our judges may take a few days off from time to time. If that happens, just know that we'll catch up as soon as possible. Our commitment to you is that we continue to grow as the most inspiring, most supportive, and most prestigious photo contest on the Web. Here's to happy shooting and healthy competition - the kind that helps us all become the best photographers we can be.


7/1/2013 3:21:31 PM

  I repeat, that's the biggest bunch of bull crap I've seen in a long time. I'm going to ask for my money back for my next website renewal (doesn't take effect for a while). I don't like it here much anymore, and this just is about enough for me.

7/1/2013 4:15:56 PM

  I'm staying because I love viewing so many great photo's from so many great people...
different strokes for different folks I guess!

jo ann c.

7/1/2013 4:18:46 PM

  Update on the resubmission issue - it might be okay to resubmit IF you change the image a lot IF it's acceptable to the judge.

"Thank you for all the positive responses about the contest change. We love to get your emails!

Also many of you have asked about whether or not it's okay to resubmit an image you've reworked.

Yes, as long as you've changed the photo in a substantial way.

We don't want to see an image that is only slightly darkened or cropped. But if the photo is essentially a new photo, that's cool. This is of course subject to the judge's decision as to whether it feels like a substantially new photo."


7/1/2013 5:28:41 PM

  Update on the resubmission issue - it might be okay to resubmit IF you change the image a lot IF it's acceptable to the judge.

"Thank you for all the positive responses about the contest change. We love to get your emails!

Also many of you have asked about whether or not it's okay to resubmit an image you've reworked.

Yes, as long as you've changed the photo in a substantial way.

We don't want to see an image that is only slightly darkened or cropped. But if the photo is essentially a new photo, that's cool. This is of course subject to the judge's decision as to whether it feels like a substantially new photo."


7/1/2013 5:28:42 PM

  Well, I can see BP's point. I have photos that I loved and were not selected. I am tempted to slip one in again to see if it would place the second time around. If all of us did this, it would be a big problem. In our local camera club, this is a rule and all the local shows have the same rule. I always include the file number to prove that any photo I submit has not been submitted before. I did redo a photo and resubmit it because I saw others doing it. It may not have been changed enough..Who knows? I am staying because I have really enjoyed looking at all the outstanding photos. I have to say that the winners are stunning. I wish the EP's were a little more prompt but they are still getting the job done. If every photo submitted gets an EP then what would be the big deal about getting one? I would like more but I was fortunate enough to have three finalists and a one was a second place winner. I can't complain about that. Fewer EP's may mean tighter judging and in the long run this could be better. So far in June, I am not doing so well.... We'll see. The competition is keen and that's good for all of us.

7/1/2013 5:43:17 PM

  To me it seem that the more active participants are getting the finalist most of the time, almost like the judges have their favorites. Am I the only one that notices this ? Every once in awhile I'll see a finalist image that in my opinion the image just passes mustard as average.

7/1/2013 6:49:58 PM

  This is why I would hate to be a judge. It is all so subjective. I taught math for almost 35 years and what I liked about Math was that it is not subjective. The answer is the answer. I guess this is why there is an ice cream flavor for just about everyone. Different tastes.

7/1/2013 7:16:38 PM

  FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE ALL THE FANTABULOUS WINNERS, FINALISTS AND PARTICIPANTS IN THE MAY CONTEST!!! YOU SEIZE TO AMAZE ME WITH YOUR OUTSTANDING ABILITIES!

NOW REGARDING THE CHANGES...

I assume the judges get a little bored looking at the same photos over and over again but members who do resubmit sometimes get a better award by resubmitting.

This can be in a different category or by waiting for months or years later to do so.

If this is the case why would you not want to do resubmit?

I messed up in April with the judging jumping back and forth by reentering an image that didn't get an EFP at the same time as others, only to find it getting one later in the month. It later went on to becoming a finalist.

At the time I received my April finalist, I could have deleted my reentry for May but I thought what the heck.. let's see where this goes. It won a finalist award again for May in the same category. (Shame on me)

SO I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CHANGES... LOL... NOT

At least I found out that their judging is consistent. :)

If they weren't jumping all over the place with the EFPs this would not have happened.

HAVE A GREAT WEEK EVERYONE, KEEP YOUR CHIN UP AND HANG IN THERE!!!

7/1/2013 7:53:43 PM

  I can only think of twice that I did a resub and that was a long time ago. I see no point to it. I too see their point.....who wants to keep seeing the same photos over and over. Also who cares about the contest.....if my photos are selling then to me their winners. The only reason I enter is so folks may find them and contact me. I don't even have a pro site. Not to be offensive but wow, all the whinning lately, if your not happy here...why stay. The complaining is dragging the rest of us down. I enjoy shooting and coming here to look at all the wonderful photos here. I enjoy all the photos whether they have an EP or not. Everyone has their own taste...including the judges.

P.S. I have never progressed past finalist and I couldn't care less. My 2 cents.

7/2/2013 4:11:23 AM

  I stay, Nicholas, because it was the Contest aspect that drew me to BP. I do not have a business to sell my photographs (although, I do donate many for charitable reasons.) I love to compete with them.

I stay, Nicholas, because I am paid up through 2015 and am hoping one day to have acceptable work per the Judges' taste (as occasionally happened in the past.)

I stay, Nicholas, because there are many members whom I admire as photographers and friends.

I stay, Nicholas, because although I detest BP's attitude lately, I still enjoy the site as a whole.

If you do not enjoy our honest opinions and whining, then you really don't have to follow Cheri's thread each month.

7/2/2013 6:50:54 AM

  I stay, Nicholas, because it was the Contest aspect that drew me to BP. I do not have a business to sell my photographs (although, I do donate many for charitable reasons.) I love to compete with them.

I stay, Nicholas, because I am paid up through 2015 and am hoping one day to have acceptable work per the Judges' taste (as occasionally happened in the past.)

I stay, Nicholas, because there are many members whom I admire as photographers and friends.

I stay, Nicholas, because although I detest BP's attitude lately, I still enjoy the site as a whole.

If you do not enjoy our honest opinions and whining, then you really don't have to follow Cheri's thread each month.

7/2/2013 6:50:54 AM

  Apparently Kathy , you took my comment as a personal attack.
Apparently Kathy , I guess I'm not allowed to give my honest opinion.
Apparently Kathy, you feel the need to post everything twice.
Apparently Kathy, you feel the need to post everything twice.

7/2/2013 9:40:47 AM

  I stay because of the contest mostly but I do enjoy viewing great photos. Most of the people here are very, very nice. I have to say that I do not know Kathy or Nicholas but I find the form and the last two lines of the post by Nicholas to be unnecessary. I agree with Kathy overall and I think there are better ways to express opinions. Should I brace myself for an onslaught?

7/2/2013 11:44:34 AM

  Grab a cold beer, Harriet, and then just sit back and giggle.... :-)

7/2/2013 11:50:46 AM

  The double posting is accidental - and happens occasionally when it appears not to have posted on the first try.

I did take your comments as a negative response not only to me but to all the writers of negative comments, writers questioning the unexplained and inconsistent changes, plus the whiners. If I misunderstood your comments, I do apologize. It just sounded like you thought our whining was spoiling the enjoyment of BP. I'm dropping out of responding at this point.

7/2/2013 12:15:40 PM

  Won't be any onslaught from me Harriet, everyone is entitled to their opinion, except for me of course. Won't be any more posts from me on this thread,as I will no longer follow it.
This is the very reason I don't comment on photos any longer even when asked for comments.

7/2/2013 1:33:45 PM

  Wait.....wut?

7/2/2013 4:14:38 PM

  Hey Bob, You wouldn't happen to have an extra beer would you? If you could send one my way I would flat-foot it right now. hahahahahahaha! (Maybe I've had one too many already......)

7/2/2013 7:11:30 PM