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Looking for online digital photo classes? Need help with any aspect of BetterPhoto? You might find just the answer you are looking for here.
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Michelle L. Frick
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April 2013 Countdown Thread
Happy Mid-May everyone! I know we've all been wondering what's going on with EPs (or lack of them) and I'm just hoping it's that they are busy looking through everything from April. So, here's our opportunity to pick our hopefuls. I'm on a diet, so I guess the alcohol and chocolate aren't really what I should be eating - but, boy do they sound delicious! If everyone could please have a drink and eat some chocolate for me, I would greatly appreciate it! Be sure to tell me what you had so I can properly adjust my envy.I can't wait to see your hopefuls/favorites! Remember, the hints below ONLY work if you have NOT entered yet on the day you share on this thread. Helpful hints for attaching photos into Forum Threads:
1) Sign into BP completely (name + password.)
2) If you have NOT YET entered the Contest today, you can use the "Photo ID" to pull an existing image from your Member Center into your reply to this thread (avoiding a duplicate image upload.) Get the Photo ID# from your Member Center, come to back this thread, click Respond, enter the text of your reply, then choose "1" from the images-to-attach drop-down. Click Submit; at the next screen populate the "Photo ID" box at the right. Skip the other fields on that screen.
3) If you HAVE ALREADY entered the Contest today before replying to this thread, you can't use the Photo ID method today. You can either wait until tomorrow to reply here (before your new Contest entry!) or, upload a new copy of the particular image (from your PC) into this thread. This produces a duplicate image in your Member Center; however, you don't have to make that duplicate visible in your Gallery.
4) If you're uploading a duplicate, maybe title it "For Forum" so it stands out in your Member Center, for easier housecleaning later... This can help direct viewers to find the original image in your gallery, when they want to leave a comment. Likewise, if you want to add a comment to a photo seen here, try to tell if it is a duplicate upload. As a courtesy, try to find the original image in the member's gallery and leave your comment there instead of on the duplicate---that way, if the duplicate is deleted later, the comment history isn't lost. Good luck everyone!!!
5/14/2013 9:08:26 PM
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Teapot Lake
1/250 Sec - f/16 - ISO 320 - 17mm
Canon 5D Mk III - Canon 17-40mm f/4.0L
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Well, not a lot of EP's for me to chose from for April. This one already has a bit of gold, hopefully it will see some more.
If you want to stroll through my April entries, they start with "The Arch", and continue through "Fire Storm"Good luck everyone!
5/15/2013 5:27:02 AM
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Hmmm... tough one this time - My April included 10 days of vacation where I didn't enter anything, then only about 10 new entries and 8 resubs, while I was watching/pondering the change in EP pattern.
I've posted for today, so I'll try to remember to select a favorite from my "lite" April pool of entries, tomorrow!
5/15/2013 5:28:03 AM
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f2.8, 1/250 sec, EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM at 165mm focal length, natural light in mid-afternoon using open shade.
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Okay, so, here's my favorite for the month. And, if anyone wants to peek, my April entries start with At the Heart and go through Canna (I bookended the entries with some flowers to make it easier). Fingers crossed for us all!
5/15/2013 2:03:18 PM
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Jeff, I do like "Teapot Lake" very much. But, I really love "Trial Lake" and am picking that as my favorite from you this month. Chris, as usual, your images are all beautiful. I'm really drawn to "Pattern of Decay" and even more intrigued once I read that you took that with your iphone! LOVE IT! Good luck!
5/15/2013 2:17:14 PM
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The other side of Yarra
Looking across the pedestrian bridge on River Yarra one early morning in Central Melbourne.Thanks to Renee Doyle for a photo-shoot together and making that day a wonderful memorable experience.
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Thanks Shell for hosting the thread. My favorite is from my Australia's visit in March /April this year.For anyone interested to peek at my April entries, they start from "Melbourne Gold" on page 2 and terminate with "Out of Place" on page 3. Good luck to all in the April Contest. UB.
5/16/2013 1:05:32 AM
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Foss
One of the many, many beautiful waterfalls (a foss) in Iceland, which aren't grand enough to warrant mention in the tourbooks, but which had
me slamming on the brakes every other mile, to make a few captures.
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Mother Nature
Sandstone slot canyons, slowly sculpted by wind & water, become both sinuous and serrated, teasing the eye to find familiar forms.
(I couldn't resist the alliteration!)
PG101 Group - April 2013 Favorite -- Thanks!
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A favorite from my few April new images, and a favorite from my few April resubs... Best of luck to everyone!
5/16/2013 4:10:47 AM
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Peaceful Pink
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro
f/2.8, 1/125 secs, ISO400, 100mm, polarizer** Monthly Theme **
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This one was a favorite here on BP and on the other site where I display and share images.Good luck everyone!
5/16/2013 7:41:55 AM
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5/17/2013 9:10:47 AM
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Not many EPs among them, but mine run from Unfolding on Pg3 to Don't Ya Think I'm Sexy on Pg5
5/17/2013 3:43:38 PM
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Jeff: Crown And Drops
Usman: An Autumn's Sunset (another tough choice)
5/17/2013 3:59:00 PM
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Sincerity
Sunflower in green glass bottle.
Textures from Shadowhouse, other adjustments in CS5.
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Only a few to choose from for me(!), but at least my fave for the month got an EP. So here is my hopeful, entered in Flowers.And here's some weirdness ... on the last day of the month, I always go to the Contest Entries link in my Member Center and print out my entries for the month. I just noticed that my April printout clearly lists 12 photos, with their info and thumbnails, but the heading says "You have entered 11 photo(s) into the contest this month". Strange. Wonder which one is missing ... :(
5/18/2013 8:35:23 AM
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p.s. ... or maybe they are all properly entered and the counter is just off. I sent the question to BP ...
5/18/2013 8:42:26 AM
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Jeff = I found it hard to decide between "The Arch" and "Balance", so picking two from you. Chris = "Mother Nature" is just awesome, good luck with this beauty. Michelle = "Christian" is the one I am picking from your gallery. Carolyn = I absolutely love "The Car wash" Martha = Your pick is beautiful, WOW! Paggy = Wonderful floral capture, good luck. Good luck to you all. UB.
5/20/2013 9:15:32 PM
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Jill Odice
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member since: 7/1/2005
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logging in problem?
This isn't really a contest question,but there isn't a category for website problems...What is with having to log in every time I visit BP nowadays? I click the box to remember me, yet every time I stop by I now have to log in!? I had to go back to my records to find out what my password was it's been so long since I needed it :-)
5/14/2013 12:18:06 PM
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Susan M. Smith
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member since: 3/22/2004
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May 2013 NO EP Feedback
It seems like lots of folks received a way lower EP count on their April entries :( This is a thread where we can post those contest entries that did not receive an EP that you would like to receive constructive ideas on why and what could be improved on the image.Please leave feedback on the image here in this thread as many members do not wish to have critique comments directly on the thread of the images. Members may want to upload a "Forum Only" copy of the image to this thread. Please indicate if you'd rather receive critique on that thread. Helpful links: These are the guidelines BP uses when evaluating/judging images: "How to Win a Photo Contest" (http://www.betterphoto.com/contest/guidelines.asp). Also, reference BP rules for categories: http://www.betterphoto.com/contest/categories.asp I look forward to everyone's thoughtful and valuable feedback!
5/9/2013 6:39:45 AM
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tagging....
5/9/2013 9:28:51 AM
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5/9/2013 4:21:17 PM
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Susan, as yet, I've not entered anything in May (working on a different photo project that has a deadline.) Might get back to it in about 10 days. It sounds as if there is not hurry anyway. Btw, I went to the Better Photo Page on Facebook; it looks as though BP has disengaged there also (almost all earlier posts have been removed, too.)
5/13/2013 4:36:11 AM
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Facebook: Jim Miotke - Jim is still featuring some Member's photos there on occasion.
5/13/2013 4:39:51 AM
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I looked at the FB page and it seems there is like one guy posting images. At first I thought maybe I found the wrong page :-)
5/13/2013 8:28:07 AM
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John Forrant (?) has been posting pix almost every day along with maybe 3 or 4 others on occasion. However, BP did add some threads. Now, it's as though it's all been deleted except for John's last picture in April.
5/13/2013 8:40:18 AM
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For the 1st time in months, I am attempting to enter some images that have never been on BP and a few radically re-edited ones in May, trying for 31 new ones...... I've been on a bit of a sad run photographically in the past year it seems, life has got in my way... So I have to say it's been a bummer to me that May is the month they seem to have stopped the EP's... I guess we have all become accustomed to knowing which shots go on or have caught their eye... Oh well, as with all other things with BP, change comes and we must adjust...
5/13/2013 12:41:55 PM
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Cheri McEachin
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member since: 10/15/2006
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May EFP'S
Here it is...May...warmer weather, warmer colors outside and here's hoping many more Editors picks..:)
5/5/2013 5:13:02 PM
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tag :) From getting 29 or so Ep's a month down to three the last few months, I dunno......... Happy Cinco da Mayo!
5/5/2013 5:17:49 PM
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tag :) From getting 29 or so Ep's a month down to three the last few months, I dunno......... Happy Cinco da Mayo!
5/5/2013 5:17:54 PM
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Tag.
5/5/2013 5:44:20 PM
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Thanks for keeping up this thread, Cheri. The one good thing about the reduced number of EFP's is that it has turned this thread into a lively source of conversation.
5/5/2013 5:47:04 PM
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Tag! You're it; I'm not! lollllllll
5/5/2013 6:04:06 PM
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I'm not either! Tag..
5/5/2013 6:07:31 PM
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Yes it is lively ..:) I might not contribute in conversation but, I read all your post to keep up to date...:) one day ill say something wise but not today...
5/5/2013 6:13:03 PM
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Hey, Cheri - you're the wise driver who's keeping the vehicle on the road! Thank you for that.
5/5/2013 7:21:20 PM
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Tag---Good luck to us all although I am not expecting a lot.
5/5/2013 8:22:38 PM
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Tag. Following along :)
5/5/2013 9:00:13 PM
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None out of 3 entries so far!
5/6/2013 12:21:53 PM
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Batting .000 here so far ...
5/6/2013 6:29:20 PM
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I don't believe that any efp's have been given out yet. Remember last month it seemed to take them a week or so to get started. Don't get discouraged yet.
5/6/2013 6:55:02 PM
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Haven't put any in yet this month! Not sure it's worth the aggrevation.
5/7/2013 11:59:47 AM
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tag...
5/7/2013 12:30:35 PM
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Tag. Thank u Cheri! I've only entered two resubs so far. I'm guessing no eps have been given yet? I only entered 15 in the contest last month. This month I've taken a break for a few days and have family coming soon so I doubt I'll be able to do much till later in the month. Am hoping EPs pick up for everyone!
5/7/2013 1:51:50 PM
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TAG!!
5/8/2013 4:13:11 PM
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Thanks Cheri for bringing this interesting thread to us every month. No EPs yet for me too. UB.
5/8/2013 8:27:25 PM
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I looked on the thread that BP has to show the EFP under Contest-EFPs, and it was blank.
5/8/2013 8:30:19 PM
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Looks like no EPs yet for May but I've started a critique thread for images that get passed over. I know I have/will be resubmitting some from April that got passed over. Feel free to post those as well, if you want feedback :)
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=35967
5/9/2013 6:45:22 AM
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Zero for me so far, and I've posted every day (in fact, nothing since April 26).
5/9/2013 7:39:21 AM
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Same for me, Monnie..My last was 4/27.
Nothing in May.
5/9/2013 9:32:22 AM
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Last EP was April 30. None yet for May.
5/9/2013 12:40:32 PM
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Tag. Thanks for doing this, Cheri. I rarely contribute, but I do like to follow along. Somehow it's comforting. No EPs in May (although my submissions are down); my last EP for April was 4/26.
5/9/2013 2:45:11 PM
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My last EP was the 25th. I was out of town and entered resubs with previous EP's on the 26-29th so I can't tell if any got picked up again or not. I did not get one on the 30th - a new entry - and have not had one yet in May. I have entered every day.
5/9/2013 3:38:37 PM
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Sunshine
iso 100, 100mm (Canon 100L marco w/2 ef25ii ext tubes), f/4 (av priority), 1/15 sec, timer/tripod, plastic sandwich bag w/small hole in end over lens, cs5....Playing again this afternoon
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I just got one for May 6....a resub from April 4 that didn't get an EP....Hmmmmmm, now I wonder if it is new, or, just late for April??
5/9/2013 7:37:36 PM
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Zip-o here for May. And no new ones for April either, LOL.
5/9/2013 7:52:11 PM
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Tagging too!
5/10/2013 4:16:58 AM
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Tagging too!
5/10/2013 4:17:09 AM
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May seems slow for EPs or perhaps fewer are being given out than in April. Anyone got any thoughts on the numbers? Tagging along...
5/10/2013 6:08:29 AM
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See my previous TAG-They are not giving any out PERIOD! Go to your Member Center, and then to the menu at the top of the page; click on Contest-Editor's First Picks; It will be blank!
5/10/2013 6:41:21 AM
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I have looked through a number of contest entries on 5/1 and none of them have EFP's so my guess is that they haven't started looking at them yet. Last month they were late getting started on giving out EFP's and it looks like this month they will be just as late or later. This may be the new normal.
5/10/2013 7:21:21 AM
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Very interesting.
5/10/2013 7:22:54 AM
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It looks like resubmits have EFP's in May so far.
5/10/2013 7:42:08 AM
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Marilyn: It looks like resubmits have EFP's in May so far. Question is whether those resubs had previous EP's or not. I started the month with three resubs from my gallery. All had been skipped in March and April. No EP's yet.
5/10/2013 12:12:02 PM
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Good point, Nikki
5/10/2013 12:21:42 PM
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In the past, at the first part of the month before any EP's had been given, there were still photos remaining in the Editor's Pick's gallery---photos remaining from the previous month's picks. I'm pretty sure there were---I've never seen it empty before.
5/10/2013 12:25:45 PM
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Doesn't leave you with a "warm and fuzzy" feeling, huh?
5/10/2013 1:02:34 PM
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Nancy, more like damp and cold! :-(
5/10/2013 1:28:06 PM
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Two people I know have now reported new EP's on photos entered in April, skipped, and re-entered from their gallery in May. Today. So there is life out there :)
5/10/2013 3:23:46 PM
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I just picked up 2 early April EFPs and they were not re-subs... This brings me to 11 for April. So look at your April entries, they maybe getting EFPs...
5/10/2013 4:30:43 PM
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Ny last EP was April 30...nothing yet this month...
5/11/2013 2:43:22 PM
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Here it is May 11th and the EFP box is empty. Like most of you, I am a serious amateur. I do not get to display my work locally and the opportunity to do so has been with BP. I am confused to say the least and disheartened. Does anyone have an explanation? Is there a problem with BetterPhoto.com? I am hesitant to upload any new photos and am adopting a wait and see attitude with entering this month's contest. My last EP was in April as well. I have really enjoyed being a part of this community. I hope there are no serious problems.
5/11/2013 4:17:33 PM
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I understand the discouragement, guys and gals, but I do not understand the reluctance to continue to upload to the contest if you have what you consider competitive entries. You have nothing to lose but a few minutes' time. What's most discouraging to me is watching the entries numbers dwindle month by month . . . And reversing that trend is in OUR hands.
5/11/2013 4:22:38 PM
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I agree with Nikki - I'm still submitting photos, and am keeping an eye on things.
5/11/2013 4:40:15 PM
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I have one to upload, but not sure what category to put it in. Still trying to figure that one out! Good luck everyone!
5/11/2013 5:22:36 PM
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Well, I have seen the wisdom of entering and yes, there is nothing to lose. It is still frustrating. Has this ever happened before? I have been a member for less than two years.
5/11/2013 5:42:07 PM
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No, Harriet, no it hasn't... :-(
5/11/2013 8:12:57 PM
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Tag; 0 for me on the new subs in May but I continue to enter as usual.
5/12/2013 10:04:08 PM
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I used to sign into BP with anticipation to see what the response was to the previous day's contest entry. For me, the EFPs gave BP the advantage of a daily interaction and conversation with its membership and this encouraged members to be active and engaged too. WIthout a daily BP presence, it's like other contest sites - which seem to promote winning more than participating and sharing. My website is here, so I'll continue to post daily images. AND, there are so many wonderful artists and images to enjoy and learn from here. M.
5/13/2013 3:55:08 AM
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It looks like there's not much point in keeping this thread open. We can gripe on Susan's "Where the heck is my EP" thread.
5/13/2013 4:11:13 AM
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Well there are no EFPs on the Facebook thread either- looks like Jim is leaving his membership out in the cold there, too.
5/13/2013 5:03:13 AM
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No EPs for me, but I have only entered a handful of entries. What I miss most about the decrease in the EPs is the chatting here in the message board - looking to see what everyone has received. I really miss that - the social aspect that came with the EPs.
5/13/2013 5:03:50 AM
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The motivation has dropped to almost nothing..along with the number of entries in the contest. I think they wanted it to drop, and by slowing or stopping the EPs it seems to be working.
5/13/2013 5:14:39 AM
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Here's Susan's link:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=35967Facebook - Better Photo Page is basically abandoned with almost all previous posts and threads removed. Facebook - Jim Miotke has posted occasionally featured photos of members with an invitation to visit www.betterphoto.com to see other beautiful and inspiring images (different words each time; basic message.) Luckily, many of us are on Facebook and continue to interact with each other.
5/13/2013 6:02:22 AM
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Yes, the Contest entry numbers have been dropping consistently. For example, In the October 2011 contest the congratulations note said 14200 photos. In the January 2013, there were 10600 and last month's were 8500.
5/13/2013 6:31:42 AM
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Lately I've been enjoying the interaction with other BP members (and several who have left BP) at Facebook - if you're there, look me up! (And also at RB, VB and FAA...)
5/13/2013 7:26:01 AM
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I'm also at RB, VB and FAA
At VB I'm okielady
5/13/2013 8:43:17 AM
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I had done alot of research when I was looking for a photo sharing website to join and based on what I found BP was by far the best website because of the photographer's on here. I did not have a clue about what photography was until I joined BP. Sure I had taken some decent shots but when I was able to view the results of the skill and creativity of the photographer's here on BP I was AMAZED and knew I had alot to learn. I still have alot to learn but I have come along way. My thoughts about the recent changes in the last couple of month's are pretty consistant with most of yours. I would like to have the old BP back. The monthly contest entries have dropped so drastically. The first month I joined there was almost 20,000 entries and like Marilyn said there was around 8500 last month. I have sent emails with questions about a couple of things in my gallery but I never hear anything back. It's like nobody is there anymore. I have been contacted by a few other BP members and they are having the same thoughts. I would love to see BP like it used to be. Beautiful photo's, awesome friendships, help when you needed it and a monthly contest that was so far above and beyond any other contest on the web. Just my thoughts.....
5/13/2013 8:49:33 AM
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Observe the same, I really hope this is just some type of software glitch that will resolve itself soon. The EP's, POTD, contest, etc. and interaction with other members is what makes BP unique, challenging, and such an enjoyable learning base. I wouldn't hesitate to pay double the annual fee for it either.
Any company in any business segment needs to be unique in order to survive over their competition, hope BP isn't loosing its unique edge....
5/13/2013 7:58:50 PM
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I emailed a comment through the tech department. The category I selected was "problems uploading photos" as I am not so sure I am going to continue uploading if things don't change. I expressed the fact that it is not fair to the customers to be kept in the dark over all this. By the way, I got a response from someone who said that they would pass it along to the appropriate personnel. We'll see. By the way, what is VB, FFA and RB? I am curious.
5/13/2013 8:08:43 PM
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Maybe we should all volunteer our services to Jim to help out with whatever the problem is. I get the feeling there is no staff anymore? It was nice that he responded last month, but he didn't really address what all of us are wondering. If he wants to drop the contest, he should just say so and not leave us all hanging wondering what is going on. In the retail world I was taught that even if you are doing poorly, never tell anybody...just say everything is fine...That is what it seems like is happening here.
I remember when there were no EPs, we all just had to wait and see if we got finalists.
5/13/2013 11:01:22 PM
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I got a little thwack on the head idea this morning. It occurred to me that it if BP is having difficulties, the site could disappear without a farewell. I'd like to take this moment to let you know how much you've contributed to me. Thank you - each of you for your great participation and support - for commenting on images that are lesser and better, for answering questions. You so generously contribute your time and your best work. Each of you has made this an encouraging and positive community. Never were there any corrective comments or negative criticisms. Everyone here has been stellar. As a learner starting in 2008 with no experience, BP has been the best learning environment I've experienced. A big thank you to the BP folks. BP's services made it so easy to start a professional site. Jim, Celia, and Jay have been great to me. They have supported my professional site here with speed, expert solutions and gracious and professional interactions. Thanks!
Marilyn
5/14/2013 6:19:07 AM
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Harriet, I sent you a BP email with the site names. Members who mention other (competing) sites here can be thrown out, or so the rules say - hence the acronyms.
5/14/2013 6:37:34 AM
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BTW, I have it on good authority (from the players themselves), that, as a fail safe, they have acquired galleries on those other sites- must be some of the thousands that used to be on BP.
5/14/2013 6:51:44 AM
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Well, somebody finally mentioned the elephant in the living room. Jim mentioned around a year ago that they were having difficulties but had decided not to shut down. That's stuck in my mind. When DIC shut down without warning, some Pros lost everything, so being prepared with a back up plan is critical for those in business (even those who are not.) Not only are galleries important, but so are contact. Getting personal contact info of photographers you want to keep in touch with is an important preemptive action. I hate having this kind of conversation, but if BP is unwilling - or unable - to reassure members with total honesty that there is nothing to worry about, then we need to help others. Explanations that really aren't backed up with corresponding action isn't very encouraging. I love BP but feel as though we're standing on quicksand. We can always gather at FB - Jim and most of the Pro/Instructor staff members are there already too.
5/14/2013 7:17:29 AM
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Kathy could set up a BPers group on Facebook and we could all find it there pretty easy. I'm also worried about what happens to our websites if they do go under. Scary. I have stuff on there that I no longer have a copy of on my computer. Nothing great, but lots of memories of my animals.
5/14/2013 7:51:22 AM
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Well, I'll just keep hoping - I'm not on Facebook and have no desire to be :)
5/14/2013 7:55:02 AM
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Another View
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Just got another April EFP...
5/14/2013 8:06:01 AM
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I guess there's life out there... Just catching up on last month's entries.
5/14/2013 8:07:38 AM
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Checked all 15 of mine that were skipped. Nada. And I think it's really strange to still be "catching up" on April skips. Had you resubmitted it in May, Ken?
5/14/2013 8:13:13 AM
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No. I never took out the skipped images from last month. So... I go to my gallery for April Entries and the EFP's have been showing up there. I think I've gotten 3 in the last week.
5/14/2013 8:17:46 AM
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The other entries were "Popping Through" and "Nine Lives the Tails". They all got their EFPs this last week.
5/14/2013 8:22:31 AM
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Carolyn: find the photos that you no longer have on your computer under" My photos," then under your photo there is a place to "share" your photo. Click on this and share it with yourself to your personal email. Along with your photo, however, you will get plenty of BP propaganda along with your photo. We used to be able to erase it, but if you try to do that now, your photo will disappear too. But, at least you will have your photo. If I were you, I would back up the remaining photos that you still have on your hard drive, and do it frequently,in more than one place (an outside HD), or "in the Cloud" online.
5/14/2013 8:25:24 AM
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Stranger and stranger. The April contest is over. Why spend time going through entries that could not possibly go on? Haven't looked at your entries, Ken, so please don't take this as any kind of a comment on them - but sounds more and more to me like a computer glitch. Like maybe they set something in motion to go back and randomly award more EP's and forgot to turn it off. In terms of their continuing "meaningful" EP's, I find this less than reassuring.
5/14/2013 8:27:26 AM
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Either it's a glitch or the Editors have not finished assigning EFPs for April. I really don't know. I've been a member for less than s year.
5/14/2013 8:34:57 AM
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I was just reading todays comments here and decided to check out the EP's for April. Just seen where I had just gotten an EP on Dutchman Breeches from April 16th. Ellen even recommended that I resubmit this one but I had not done that yet. Ken I think you are right. Don't really think this is a computer glitch.
5/14/2013 9:03:41 AM
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Nothing of mine has an ep that didn't have one before. I don't have a clue what's going on.
And Nancy, I can get the photos back, and have done a bunch of them. From your website if you have one, you can right click on your own image and then save as...But it won't work on your galleries, I don't think..and of course, it comes back about the same size you sent it in, which is very small.
5/14/2013 11:19:22 AM
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Hi,
I did receive a reply to my email sent to technology and then passed along to "Team Better Photo". According to them the lag is just that there are way more entries than ever and it is just taking longer to go through them. According to other posts in this thread, this is not the case. Who is correct? According to the Team Better Photo reply, I should keep checking to see if any of my photos get an EFP. I don't know.....????
5/14/2013 12:01:41 PM
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Hi Harriet, it sounds to me like there are way less entries, not more. Like I said before it's that retail thing of never admitting when you are not doing well...always say everything is fine...
5/14/2013 12:13:20 PM
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I just checked and there are 3,944 entries so far for the contest. Since we are almost half way through the month this does not seem like way more entries at all. A bunch of these 3,944 entries are also dated in prior months which is very strange and why some people may still be getting EFP's for April. For example, Landscape which is normally a popular category, has 595 entries so far and about 150 of those entries are for months prior to May. So, I would say that contest entries are way down, not way up. I have seen no evidence of any EFP's for May.
5/14/2013 12:31:49 PM
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Well, it they are going to continue to award EP's, they ARE way behind - for whatever reason. It's about time to select the April finalists. Ohhh, I see, said the blind woman. I was a month off on Finalists. March awards have come out, April have not. So it DOES make sense for them to still be going back and looking at April entries. I take back my comments about Ken's and others' new April EP's.
5/14/2013 7:51:22 PM
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Usually when I get up every morning, there is a POTD waiting for me in my email-none today! I find this odd, as the time they are posted is around 3:00am PDT. There was, however, a Snapshot with a BP classes list. Seems like one other aspect of the BP site we used to love might be gone-let's just hope it's late this morning.
5/15/2013 4:49:41 AM
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I think they were just late. I got the POTD newsletter, but after the Snapshot.
5/15/2013 5:00:16 AM
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Yes, they were late-just got it-must be hard on a skeleton crew!
5/15/2013 5:23:13 AM
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My SnapShot arrived at 5:00 am (Detroit time), but still no POTD notification at 9:55 am.
5/15/2013 6:52:06 AM
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My notifications come all willy-nilly. I think it has more to do with servers along the line than the "moment" they are released at BP.
5/15/2013 6:55:56 AM
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The only thing I get always and absolute is the adds and sales. For the last 2 days I have had trouble uploading any photos and sometimes cannot load the page. They sure know how to take the fun out of things. :)
5/15/2013 7:30:33 AM
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Picked up an EPs on my Roadside Tulips submitted on April 22 sometime since last night. I guess they are still out there. LOL.
5/15/2013 8:45:59 AM
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This thought just occurred to me ... going forward, maybe they are planning to reveal all the EPs at once, the same way finalists and winners are revealed ...
5/15/2013 10:29:45 AM
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I just received an EP on an April 19th entry.
5/15/2013 10:39:08 AM
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No new EPs for April. I had 15 entries and 11 got EPs so i'm not expecting any on the other 4. I'm glad to hear others are...better late than never! This lag in time or computer problem is getting more discouraging. Like most of you, my routine of checking BP and entering often has slacked off dramatically. It's fallen out of my daily habit. I still can't understand how all of this could be benefitting BPs business. My gallery is up for renewal June 4th and I'm wondering if I should keep it or find one more beneficial to my own business. Like Carolyn I also have some older pics on here that I don't have copies of elsewhere. Also, with the BP awards, having a gallery displaying them is the only "proof" of that accomplishment. Ya can't take em with ya...in other words! I miss the old BP!!!
5/15/2013 3:05:51 PM
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If they are still giving out EPs for April, it probably means they're doing a double-check on the April contest entries, prior to culling them down to the finalists. I think... And then, I bet they'll focus on May EPs and you'll see them awarded fairly quickly. For historical reference, BP never used to hand out EPs "in the beginning." We all waited til the end of the month for finalists...and it seemed like a happier time then. Lots of forum discussion, lots of contest entries. It wasn't until the EP was awarded, that more discontent occurred. And I think the discontent arose because of the lack of consistency that BP had, for the percentage of EPs awarded...no way to judge if the quality of the photos was improving. A lower EP rate simply meant less photos were moving forward...not that the quality of individual photos was going down. I'd welcome the thoughts of other long-term BP members on whether the EP has helped, or hindered the creative photography of BP members. I think it's caused more resentment than joy. It could have been a great motivational took, if consistently administered.
5/15/2013 8:32:05 PM
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Oops..typo....last sentence...I meant "tool", not "took."
5/15/2013 8:33:31 PM
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I enjoy the validation of an EFP but there's more to BP than that. I enjoy being able to display my work and if I am lucky, a member notices a photo and makes a comment. It is all about a community of artists and the opportunity to share ideas, compliments, constructive criticism and if an EFP is awarded then it is icing on the cake. I just want BP to continue as I have enjoyed it so much. The contest is a lot of fun and I hope that continues as well. We all will just have to wait and see.
5/15/2013 8:48:31 PM
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I have been with BP for over 9 years. In response to Ken's question, I love photography more than ever! For me, the best part of this community, is the life long friendships, I have made. In person and on the internet. I was also fortunate to meet the BP staff, it made my experience here even better. EP or no EP, I still like posting here. Good luck to all of you!!! Donna
5/15/2013 8:58:45 PM
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Good to see an EP emerge on my April 23rd submit.
Natural.
April 23, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Monthly Theme
5/15/2013 10:17:15 PM
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EP OR NO EP, I LOVE BP!!! Ken, I am not an old-timer (BP-wise) but have no hesitation in saying that I LOVE BP as it has provided me a forum where I can interact with a wonderful community of fellow enthusiasts of all levels and just going over the images taken by so many awesome artists has been a source of inspiration for me since 2008. I can easily say that members here are so very helpful in assisting fellow BPers and share their knowledge. I have yet to find a photography website where the sharing of knowledge of its community is anywhere near as it is here at BP!!! BP has been instrumental in helping improve my photography (at least that's what I like to think) in the last six years or so. My love for photography has also augmented because of it, and to top it all off BP has introduced me to so many wonderful people who share my passion some of whom have become good friends. So, thank you BP!!! UB.
5/15/2013 10:31:37 PM
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In response to Ken, I think it was more interesting before the EPs, you just had to wait until you either got or didn't get an email letting you know you got a finalist. I remember folks complaining about how they seemed to give EPs to every image, now we are upset because we aren't getting them :-) My only disappointment really is the lack of communication. If they want to discontinue the EPs and go back to the way it used to be or something new, just let us all know ...
Like Donna, I have met several friends through BP to go shoot with, I have learned a lot of great information and on the whole have enjoyed being a part of the community. I just hope it continues to grow and improve. I know what it was like when the other site I was a member of folded, it was sad. Luckily many of the members of that group are here at BP so we can stay in touch.
5/15/2013 10:42:34 PM
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Yes, there was definitely more participation those day’s ( before the EP’s came into being ) . Since then, an EP badge or not, to me has been more of a confirmation to check as whether the image that I had entered has moved to the next round or not, nothing more than that. On the contrary, I would have welcome the bar for an EP to be set a little higher than where it ended up being and consistently so before this change came up in last 2-3 months. So, I am ok with the recent change in EP awarding process also reconfirmed by Jim when we wrote that they will continue to award EP for the ‘excellent’ images , if they can remain consistent with this revised approach, I think that on a long term , this will help in improving the standard of photography further. Also , I don’t think there was ever an commitment from BP side that EP’s will be awarded within 1 week or 2 weeks of each Photo that is entering into the contest, the only commitment that is there on the site states “ photo contest winners will be posted by ”. It’s only because we got used to getting an early confirmation with a BP badge, there is discontent now in the lack of it or delayed process coupled with the reduction in EP nos. Now, this being a common ask and motivational factor for many BP members , I think BP can do many things to address it, one suggestion to streamline the ‘timing’ aspect of it would be that instead of even attempting to award EP badges to the contest entries of the current month, they should complete the process of EP-Finalist-Winner selection of the previous month, declare the result and then start the EP awarding process for the current month , there will be delay of 2-3 weeks before the EP’s for the current months are awarded but then we’ll know why even if they don’t officially announce such an approach – provided,it is done consistently.
5/15/2013 11:45:49 PM
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the complete quote from the BP site (somehow did not appear in full in my comment above)....... "(month) photo contest winners will be posted by (last day of the month...)"
5/15/2013 11:51:26 PM
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I'm only going to address the "more" or "less" participation issue. I haven't been here as long as Ken, but I have been here since before EP's and since the time of free basic galleries for up to 100 images. It was also possible to post in the forums without being a member then. This was also at the time when internet bulletin boards were still pretty popular and people still checked their email frequently. Times have changed - in the digital world as well as at BP. Yes, I do remember lots more activity in the Forums BUT I remember lots of negative, disgruntled talk, some of it downright ugly. I hated the forums then. Give me courteous, civilized interaction any day :) I would like to see more activity, but I would never want to go back to the tone of my first year or two.
5/16/2013 6:00:41 AM
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Melissa Picone
member since: 6/9/2007
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Nostalgia
Train ride @ the Maryland Zoo
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Just received an EP from a April entry...
5/16/2013 9:21:16 AM
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A few weeks ago I received a message from someone whom I believe may be one of the judges, saying that she enjoyed viewing my work and that this may be the last time. I didn't think really anything about it at the time, thinking it was just a personal issue. But after talking to Harriet earlier this week, I remembered this message and maybe the contests are being eased out (?) If this is true, hopefully this only affects the contests and not the entire site. ~April
5/16/2013 9:26:17 AM
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I really liked it when the EP's first began---it was exciting to log in and find a badge under a photo and know that that photo had progressed in the contest. Later, when almost every photo got an EP, they because sort of meaningless to me. Now...I'm honestly not sure how to assess what an EP means or doesn't mean.
5/16/2013 9:27:31 AM
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Natural/Abstract:
I suspect I know the message you are talking about. If I am right, she has nothing to do with BP officially and never has had. I'll check with you in a PM
5/16/2013 9:33:27 AM
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Yes, Nikki, that was the message. I hadn't thought she was a judge but then after the "no EP" debate I thought maybe she was. That's what I get for thinking. :) ~April
5/16/2013 10:13:14 AM
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I was here before EPs, starting in 2004. I was new to photography and was very "green." Up till the time I took a break in 2008, I had only received 4 or 5 finalists, then finally a 2nd place in early 2008. When EPs began, I liked them because it gave me more feedback on my images. Before them the only measure of whether I was improving was a finalist. With EPs I then knew which images were more proficient or in line with basic standards. I believe this helped me to learn why, as well. Then, too many images were getting EPs. I would look at some images that got them amd come to the conclusion that they didn't mean anything, anymore. With that said, I would prefer they award EPs selectively like they used to. Right now, what really seems off is the timing on reviewing and giving the EPs. We've gone thru changes without explanation before. What confounds me is that it's going on 3 months with no clear or consistent pattern of what the "new" new is.
5/16/2013 4:04:10 PM
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I posted this on another thread but see no activity on it.. so here it is..:) For the 1st time in months, I am attempting to enter some images that have never been on BP and a few radically re-edited ones in May, trying for 31 new ones...... I've been on a bit of a sad run photographically in the past year it seems, life has got in my way... So I have to say it's been a bummer to me that May is the month they seem to have stopped the EP's, or at least they are way behind... Nobody likes change... I guess we have all become accustomed to knowing which shots go on or have caught their eye... Oh well, as with all other things with BP, change comes and we must adjust...
5/17/2013 5:29:03 PM
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Adjust, or leave, which, it seems they are doing in droves!
5/17/2013 5:53:38 PM
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I am not quite sure how one would know if "they are leaving in droves". It is not out of the ordinary for people to want a good thing to remain the same. I, for one, enjoyed the feedback that came with EP. After 40 years of teaching math I know something about learning and immediate feedback is needed for interest to remain high and for learning to continue. If BP is going to wait a month to hand out EP's or discontinue them then it would be too bad. Instead of listening to their customers they would indeed be saying, "adjust, or leave" which is not a very good attitude.
5/17/2013 6:36:01 PM
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Earlier in this thread, I posed the question about whether the EP was causing more resentment than joy. I should have also said that I love BP, despite the change in how they hand out the EPs. I'm not a member on other photo sites; just BP. And BP is much more than the contest. It's about friends...of folks helping each other...and learning. When I first joined BP, I saw the impersonal mini-pics...but eventually, I learned there were real people behind the mini-pics...with the same common goal to enjoy photography and improve. That foundation is still here. I think we should focus on that, and not the timeliness of when they award EPs...or if they're handing out a lot....or a few. In fairness, I hope they return to a consistent level of EPs...easier to know if you're improving. And hand them out in a timely manner. But this is secondary to why I still enjoy BP.
5/17/2013 9:11:11 PM
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I agree fully with you, Ken. This is where I found my home in photography and where I want to stay! So many friends, such talent, and such wonderful opportunity for growth.
5/18/2013 2:01:15 AM
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I'm glad I found this thread as I was beginning to wonder if it was just me. My last EP was April 30. and that one came fairly quickly.
I haven't been posting as much the last few weeks as I threw out my lower back and can't sit for too long. I feel badly that I haven't been commenting on photos as often.
I've been here before EPs were handed out and eagerly waited for Finalists at the end of the month. I did well at first and then found that after a few years the Finalists I received were almost nil. I took a year off and when I returned EPs were the new thing. They gave me something to look forward to and fueled my interest once again. It was the community and encouragement of one particular member who brought me to a whole new level. My personal criteria is to enter only what I think has a chance to become a Finalist. Now with EPs being few and far between I'm starting to second guess my entries and it's discouraging.
I agree with Ken as well and perhaps I should channel my energy back into commenting and not worry so much about my personal EPs. It's the community and friendships I've made that make this such a wonderful place.
5/18/2013 4:53:48 AM
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A dedicated Photographer! lol
Here is Ken...it was in 2007 after going back and checking when we went on a trip to Virginia.
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I did a resubmit of one of Ken Smith that I got a finalist on in 2011, now it has an EP on it for May.That was a fun trip and it began raining and Ken got out and took a picture of our gang "The Shooting Gallery". It was a fun trip and fun group for sure. So, I at least got an EP in May, only one...duhhhh hope it at least gets a finalist this year... Thanks for all the help you gave me when I first started on BP, think it was in 2006 or 2007..first ever camera, and I'm so glad I joined BP. Learned so much just looking at all the pictures , took a few classes and went on a LOT of trips with the gang...what fun!! So...I have a smile on my face and hope to keep it...I am still posting everyday and enjoying it. I did get 3 finalist in March so I can't complain... Enjoy this forum and getting to know many of you better...it's nearly like family! :-) jo ann c.
5/18/2013 11:50:37 AM
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I mentioned this last month, and the museum reopening was today. So, with no eEPs to report, I'll just share the now completed exhibit containing one of my images... http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGallDetail.asp?photoID=13883336
5/18/2013 2:27:19 PM
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Awesome, Kathy! Huge congrats!
5/18/2013 3:17:15 PM
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You have a May EP, Jo Ann?
5/19/2013 7:24:42 AM
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I agree with Ken also... BP is my only photo outlet... While others have joined various sites, BP has plenty to keep me entertained... I too love the friendships and camaraderie we have all come to expect... It's been a great source of learning and improvement for me since courses and classes have never been something I can afford... I will stay and participate till the day they shut it down(which I hope never comes). EP or no EP, I love BP and I am sure whatever changes are being made or coming, are necessary for BP to continue on..
5/19/2013 8:00:57 AM
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Hey Bob, it was a different one that month on that shoot...sooo...I haven't received anything this month either! Oh well, bet we all will by the last of the month!
I certainly enjoy your gallery!jo ann c.
5/19/2013 10:20:09 AM
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Hey, did anyone notice this? There are EPS showing now when you go to Contest > Editor's Picks from the home page ...
5/19/2013 3:33:47 PM
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Oh yay! I didn't get one, but they are indeed from May 1. Thanks, Peggy.
5/19/2013 3:42:52 PM
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Me neither, Nikki, but at least there are signs of life ... :)
5/19/2013 3:48:16 PM
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That folder is on a random sort, but I still couldn't see more than about 15, max 20 different images. That's not very many for an entire day, so maybe they just got started and will do more. And anyway, as you say, Peggy - at least it's a sign of life
5/19/2013 4:29:42 PM
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"It's alive"! .. Dr. Fronkensteen
5/19/2013 4:43:35 PM
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When you hit "reload," the same photos keep recycling, and some of them are dated as far back as March of 2010. Maybe this is just BP's effort to calm us down- it is not working this way!
5/19/2013 4:43:47 PM
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That's not unusual, Marie. Uploaded photos always bear the date of upload. What you have seen are resubmissions. There are also a fair number of May 1 submissions. I am willing to bet all 13 that are in there now - I counted by writing the titles down and reloading over and over and over - were submitted or resubmitted on May 1. And resubmissions do not automatically get re-picked. I also looked through the recent entries until I found the NEW May 1 entries. There were over 200 and there's no way to calculate the resubs people chose to make on May 1 (my own is one). So 13 isn't very many . . . but it is a start :)
5/19/2013 4:56:38 PM
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Well, hope springs, then! Thank you, Nikki!
5/19/2013 4:59:13 PM
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You're welcome :) And I should have said "resubmissions THAT HAVE EP'S do not automatically get re-picked"
5/19/2013 5:06:09 PM
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19 days into May and there are now 508 "new arrivals", which does not indicate the number of entries (averaging 27 per day.) At that rate, there should be approximately 900 new arrivals for the entire month of May. It will be interesting to see how many entries there will actually be - and like Nikki says, who knows how many entries will actually be resubs. I haven't figure out how to find entries by dates, however (without opening up every thumbnail and checking the upload date there.)
5/19/2013 5:07:01 PM
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LOL, Bob!
5/19/2013 5:07:18 PM
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Well, my goodness. An EP for me from March 1. Firstborn
5/19/2013 5:33:30 PM
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I mean MAY 1.
5/19/2013 5:34:36 PM
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I am not clear on this----if you re-sub a photo from your gallery that has received a EP or finalist does the EP or finalist show up under the photo?
5/19/2013 8:50:02 PM
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It does. But they don't really look at it when they judge anew for EP's. I do EP's all the time, very seldom Finalists. But quite a few actually get passed over the second time and I know that's true of Finalists (others'), too. They either can't see them or don't scroll down to do so when they judge for EP's, so by "yes" I just mean that you won't "lose" it.
5/19/2013 8:56:51 PM
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I believe another EP popped up under the image I submitted on April 27.
A Hole in the Clouds
April 27, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Monthly Theme
5/20/2013 3:11:45 AM
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Decided to check all my non-eps in April and found another one with an EP badge.
At Fog's Edge
April 30, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Monthly Theme
5/20/2013 3:25:29 AM
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Thanks Nikki, I had just noticed that some had EP's and it was very random.
5/20/2013 3:52:23 AM
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My May 1st entry now has an EFP on it... So there is life out there...:)
5/20/2013 8:47:04 AM
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My May 1st also just got an EP. ;-)
5/20/2013 9:57:13 AM
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None for me, and if April is any indication, there probably won't be.
5/20/2013 10:12:03 AM
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Carol - your in good company! Rest assured your images are amazing. None for me either...
5/20/2013 12:00:22 PM
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TAG!
5/20/2013 2:15:32 PM
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Pray for Linda Yee, her family, and all the other Oklahoma City residents. They were hit with a major tornado this afternoon. (I think she still lives in that area.
5/20/2013 3:43:56 PM
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It's tragic, for sure. Heart breaking. Carolyn Fletcher lives in Eastern Oklahoma and I know the line moved thru her area too, later in the day although I don't think there were as many damaging tornadoes...But hail and winds. Keep her in your thoughts too.
5/20/2013 7:10:22 PM
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I Haven't heard back from Carolyn yet, but will post here when I do. The electricity is probably a mess throughout the storm-hit areas.
5/20/2013 8:04:33 PM
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Praying for the safety of all families involved. UB.
5/20/2013 8:48:25 PM
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Just saw it on Net.....really heart breaking....the children in that elementary school that took the direct hit and all those who suffered....my thoughts and prayers for all.....
5/21/2013 2:00:03 AM
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Heard from a close friend in Shawnee OK-he and his family are all right, but so many are not. The only thing we can do now is contribute to the recovery of the survivors, and send prayers to the families who have lost loved ones. It is so heart-breaking, especially the loss of so many children. We are hoping that the coming storms slated for today will not have any direct hits, or maybe not touch down. I was a teacher in Irving, TX, in the 1970s when 2 tornadoes dropped down to just above the school roof. I and all the other teachers were in the hallways tucked up against the lockers with the children, where we remained until the all clear siren signaled that the twisters were gone. I was 8 months pregnant at the time, and plenty scared, but our job as teachers was to calm and protect those children who were our charges. We were lucky that day, as there was just a lot of noise, a shaking structure, and, believe it or not, frantic parents were right outside the school trying to get their children, which are safer in the school than out in the storm. The tornados dropped down to just above the roof, and stayed just long enough to scare most of us, then moved on. We were so lucky, too, that these tornados were not in the category of those that have devastated Oklahoma. I have been in earthquakes, hurricanes and tornadoes, and by far, tornadoes are the most scary. My heart goes out to the parents who lost children and loved ones in these recent disasters-such a tragedy!
5/21/2013 5:48:12 AM
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This is the city (metro area) who lost so many children in the bombings of 1995. it's breaking my heart that they are going through a similar devastating (even for a different cause) event. Nancy Marie - amazing experiences that you went through, too.
5/21/2013 6:04:16 AM
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This is the city (metro area) who lost so many children in the bombings of 1995. it's breaking my heart that they are going through a similar devastating (even for a different cause) event. Nancy Marie - amazing experiences that you went through, too.
5/21/2013 6:04:16 AM
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Are there two contests running? How do I enter the photo of the day and the monthly. I know how to enter the mo nthly one but what about the photo of the day.
5/5/2013 7:25:15 AM
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John, there isn't an entry for POTD. These are chosen from photos that are submitted for the monthly contest. They are photos that the BP folks thought are particularly nice! That doesn't mean that the POTD will advance further in the contest. Hope this helps!
5/5/2013 7:48:52 AM
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Delete old camera and add new one
When loading pictures it asks what type of camera. I can't delete the old ones and I can't add new one. How do I change them. If anyone knows send me an email to jpud@mymts.net.
5/4/2013 8:48:27 AM
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In your member center, click on "my info"...add/delete camera is about the 3rd one down......
5/4/2013 11:10:58 AM
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March 2013 Countdown Thread
Here we are at the 15th of the month again. I am excited to see your images. I love this thread and sharing the wait with all of you. Thank you all for sharing your talent here on BetterPhoto. The world is a more beautiful place thanks to all of you.
Helpful hints for attaching photos into Forum Threads:
1) Sign into BP completely (name + password.)
2) If you have NOT YET entered the Contest today, you can use the "Photo ID" to pull an existing image from your Member Center into your reply to this thread (avoiding a duplicate image upload.) Get the Photo ID# from your Member Center, come to back this thread, click Respond, enter the text of your reply, then choose "1" from the images-to-attach drop-down. Click Submit; at the next screen populate the "Photo ID" box at the right. Skip the other fields on that screen.
3) If you HAVE ALREADY entered the Contest today before replying to this thread, you can't use the Photo ID method today. You can either wait until tomorrow to reply here (before your new Contest entry!) or, upload a new copy of the particular image (from your PC) into this thread. This produces a duplicate image in your Member Center; however, you don't have to make that duplicate visible in your Gallery.
4) If you're uploading a duplicate, maybe title it "For Forum" so it stands out in your Member Center, for easier housecleaning later... This can help direct viewers to find the original image in your gallery, when they want to leave a comment. Likewise, if you want to add a comment to a photo seen here, try to tell if it is a duplicate upload. As a courtesy, try to find the original image in the member's gallery and leave your comment there instead of on the duplicate---that way, if the duplicate is deleted later, the comment history isn't lost.
Good luck everyone!!!
4/15/2013 3:22:27 PM
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Dapper Dude
Evan had to dress like a character from history for a 5th grade project - he chose Henry Ford - who in almost every picture we saw was in a suit.
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My March entries appear in my gallery between "Hoppy Easter" and "A Mother's Love." I have a lot of personal favorites this month because I have many of Kate (my daughter) from her birthday and of Evan (my son). Hmmmm...I'll go with this one.Fingers crossed for us all!
4/15/2013 3:30:13 PM
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Well, it's going to be interesting to see how things play out this month.
4/15/2013 5:04:53 PM
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Non-Stop to Neverland
This was shot from behind the front window of Dubai Metro train exiting a station.
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Here's my hopeful this month, the same as of last month's.Good luck to each one of you in March contest. UB.
4/16/2013 1:16:51 AM
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Barbed Wire On The Beach
91 Seconds - f/5.6 - ISO 100 - 17mm
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If you want to take a look at my March entries, they run from Sunset Skier to Haliaeetus leucocephalusMichelle - I pick Big, Bored Bear Here's my favorite for the month
4/17/2013 5:20:45 AM
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Jeff - you make it difficult - I'm torn between Evening Watch and Hiding. UB - I pick Blossoms and it was a beautiful tribute to your Mom. Good luck!
4/17/2013 1:58:51 PM
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Any guesses yet on the Finalist announcement date? My March entries run from Dream World - II on page 2 to In Harmony on page 3. Need some more participation in this thread as I would like to take a look at more of your wonderful work this weekend. UB.
4/19/2013 1:25:14 AM
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Usamn - Non-stop to neverland is my pick. Very cool! It's nice that the three of us are enjoying this conversation :o)
4/19/2013 5:32:22 AM
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I'd love to see more people join us. I'm stuck in bed recovering from sinus surgery, so I could use a healthy, fun distraction. The news is all so distressing in the world. It's nice to escape here to enjoy the beauty of the images and warmth of photo friends. Thank you sharing your time and talent, your wisdom and your friendship.
4/19/2013 5:47:32 AM
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Slender and Beautiful
iso 50, 180mm (Canon 180L macro w/2 ef25ii ext tubes), manual mode (f/3.5, 1/200 sec), timer/tripod, Canon ring light, cs5... Amaryllis bloom yesterday in the front room.
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Okay, okay, okay....I'll give this a try.. :-)
4/19/2013 8:08:18 AM
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Thank you Bob! I love your hopeful!!! If you tell us where to look in your gallery, we will try to make predictions too.
4/19/2013 8:14:33 AM
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Some are originals, some are resubs....my gallery is just in the order I up load....hard to tell where March contest specific images are.... But, you've got nothing better to do, so just cruise.... :-)
4/19/2013 8:21:08 AM
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Truer words! And, since I love your work, it's a beautiful distraction.
4/19/2013 8:23:08 AM
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The Reach
A fresh look at an old favorite - shifted framing and cleaned up background.
Category: Details and Macro
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I have several unusual (for me) personal favorites this month including "Two Story House" and "Coats, Hat Boxes and a Trunk", but I've decided to go with a rework of an old favorite that did, wonder of wonders, manage to pick up an EP :)
4/19/2013 8:29:03 AM
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Hmmm...love the Iko pic, but I believe that's an April entry. I do love the one you chose, but I also really love "Young and Old" and "Prim and Proper". Good luck!
4/19/2013 8:29:05 AM
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Oh, and since you're bed-ridden today - speedy and full recovery wishes!! - and if you have time, my March entries are on p. 7 just after my finalists. They go from "My Domain" (March 1) to "Rive Droite" (March 31).
4/19/2013 8:33:30 AM
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Oh Bob, I think Iko is March. I love that image!
4/19/2013 9:05:40 AM
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Nikki, I do love the one you chose. I also really love the tones and mood of River Droite and I think you should resub Tropical Star...it's a beauty!
4/19/2013 9:08:52 AM
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Cougar Lake, Southern Illinois University - Edwardsville
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Here is my hopeful. Wish everyone success in the next round. Get your rest Michelle... Sinus surgery isnot an easy recovery! sorry for the pun.
4/19/2013 9:27:18 AM
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You think it's funny, but it snot! ;-) I'm going to go look through yours now Errick. Thank you for joining.
4/19/2013 10:02:56 AM
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That would be hard... I always throw my klenex away!
4/19/2013 10:05:50 AM
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Here's mine.
4/19/2013 10:12:00 AM
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Ready to Run
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Here's mine - take 2.
4/19/2013 10:13:32 AM
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Thank you Errick for making me giggle! I meant through your images - my favorites are "Spring Caught off Guard" and "Rocky Knoll." Thanks Carol for joining the discussion thread too! And, my pick for you is "The Taste of Defeat" - I just showed it to my hubby too and we both smiled. The tongue is too much!
4/19/2013 10:36:16 AM
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Thanks Michelle. I like your "My Little Man" he is always a ham in front of your lens. And all of your little gangster photos. Errick
4/19/2013 10:48:38 AM
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Thanks Michelle, I'm glad you liked it. I will get to looking through your gallery later today, but for now, gotta run. Feel better!
4/19/2013 10:49:47 AM
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Ahhh...Errick, thank you. Evan is a great little model for me. It kills me that my kids are growing up so quickly.
4/19/2013 10:51:30 AM
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Thanks for doing this thread yet again Shell...:) Here is my hopeful for March.. A new shot of my handsome brother and his guitar..
4/19/2013 10:54:41 AM
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tag..not picking any, since it's probably a waste of time.
4/19/2013 3:15:53 PM
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Michelle - JOY,
Jeff - Birthday Girl (A winner, IMHO),
Bob - Iko-1, Ball-0 (a wonderful take),
Nikki - Joigny & The Bliss of Solitude,
Errick - Joy Ride (A Big Winner, IMHO),
Carol - Eat my Dust & Life in the Fast Lane,
Kara - berry deliciousGood luck with these and your other hopefuls :) UB.
4/19/2013 10:07:21 PM
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s o n g f u l
A new image of my handsome brother...:)Thanks for looking! ~People~
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Sorry I had already entered the other day and was not able to upload my image... Here it is..:)
4/21/2013 8:31:19 AM
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Thanks for your pick Usman, another fav. of mine!
4/21/2013 8:33:02 AM
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Library of Congress
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Michelle - lost in her thoughts
Jeff - Birthday Girl
Usman - Prayer Time
Nikki - Photographing ChicagoI think my personal favorite is Library of Congress My March entries are between the March and February markers in my gallery. Note: Take caution when editing sort order! My photos were totally rearranged, and I had manually clean up my March and April entries. I just left the others randomly sorted. Did I miss anyone? I think I've looked at all the ones where I knew the start/end of March. If I missed you, please let me know! I enjoy this. :)
4/21/2013 9:43:56 AM
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Sursum Corda
Another take on the west front of Washington National Cathedral, with the EFS10-22mm at 10mm, in strong late afternoon sun.
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March was a fair number of resubs for me. So here's a favorite resub (for the "Showing Motion" theme), and a favorite new entry, of the cathedral. Best of luck to everyone; with the odd behavior/change in EP flow that arose during March, it will be even more interesting to see the results!
4/22/2013 7:07:43 AM
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Spring
I went on a photowalk in my own backyard, and this is one of the photos.
It is a tuft of spring grass, young and yellowish, in bright light.
The gray-blue in the background is a wooden fence. I really liked how
the colors popped, and the little white points of "bling".
Basic adjustments in CS5.
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Not a lot to choose from for me, since I don't have many EPs for March, but here is my fave.Best of luck to everyone!
4/22/2013 7:09:04 PM
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I think its going to happen tomorrow, a Wednesday. UB.
4/23/2013 3:33:29 AM
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Marsh Wren marking its Territory
This time of year the Marsh Wren's are busy marking their territories and attracting females. The male will build several nests (sometimes up to 20). The male will show the nest to a female and if she selects it she will line it and lay eggs. Marsh Wrens are polygamous and may maintain families in two or more nests in their territory and sometimes will help feed the chicks. Females will often brood twice a year. Now I know why there are so many of them!
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As with many of you here - I don't seem to have as many EP's to pick from this month. I like this one but had my favorite passed over!
4/23/2013 3:20:08 PM
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I hope you are right UB. Smiles to everyone!
4/23/2013 5:12:28 PM
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All I know is that at the rate we're going, picking an April favorite is going to pretty easy!
4/23/2013 5:14:09 PM
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Oh my, I am sooo late tagging! I see lots of beautiful picks here but work is calling so I will have to choose later. My entries are on page 2 from Chasing the Blues Away to Quiet Time. Best of luck to everyone!
4/25/2013 5:23:43 AM
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Wonderful florals Susan. My pick is definitely "Chasing the Blues Away" and don't you just love that lens. Its the best value-for-money lens around, IMHO. UB.
4/25/2013 8:49:18 PM
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Stop and Smell the Flowers
11-week old Raven scoping out a potential food/toy target. F5.3, 1/60, 18-55m vr nikkor @46mm, iso800, sb600 flash. Texture effects accented edges)in PSE.March 26, 2013
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Thanks UB, Chasing would be my second pick but this is the one I'd like to see get a finalist (of course, those never do! lol). Oh and yes, for an inexpensive lens it does quite well!
4/26/2013 5:46:50 AM
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Finalists are out! Congratulations!!!! I picked right for a change...I'll drink to that! So happy for a reason to smile today. Fingers crossed for everyone in the next round. Cheers!!!
4/28/2013 3:19:23 PM
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One for me. I picked wrong, but who cares, I'm happy to have any finalist! Congrats to all the finalists and best of luck in the next round!
4/28/2013 3:27:54 PM
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3 for me. I'll take 'em and happy to have them!
4/28/2013 5:03:45 PM
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One for me and happy to have it! Best of luck to all in the next round!
4/28/2013 5:47:01 PM
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Congratulations to all the finalists and best of luck in the next round. I got one in Elements of Design it was taken in Hawaii at our hotel and it is of light and shadows. I placed it first in my gallery if anyone is interested.
4/28/2013 5:59:33 PM
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I always thought that the number of Finalists was proportionate to the number of entries but I am wrong.
January there were 10,600 entries and 708 Finalists selected. February there were 9,200 entries and 1,062 Finalist. March 8,600 entries and 751 Finalist. So apparently the ratio of Finalist/entries varies from month to month.
Just curious. My Finalist is for a photo that got an EP right away. Did any one of get Finalist on images that were passed over but then later recieved EP on the second round of selection?
4/28/2013 7:48:55 PM
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Irene, I've seen it vary from the highest rate of nearly 12 percent for March 2013, to a low of about 3 percent, I think. Kinda like the EP rate...it ebbs and flows. And there's no correlation to a low EP rate (for last month), versus the success rate for finalists...the rate for March was a little higher than normal. Chris Budny can probably give detailed stats. :-)
4/28/2013 7:55:17 PM
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Irene, yes, my finalist was initially passed over, then an EP showed up a bit later ... it is "Metallic" in Elements of Design.
4/28/2013 8:01:24 PM
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Big CONGRATZ to all the Finalists this month and good good luck in the next round. My above pick, as usual, was not-to-be amongst the Finalists but I am very happy to have got a few this month. UB.
4/28/2013 8:52:10 PM
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Ken, you're right - the percentage varies quite a bit. Last month set a record high (just over 11% made Finalist) while March came in just under 9%, yet had the lowest # of actual entries.)
The historical average (for my 88 months of tracking) is around 3.6% -- with the all-time low being just over 1%.
4/29/2013 5:25:25 AM
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It's good to know that Finalist are not an arbitrary number but rather all Finalist worthy images move on to be considered for winners.
4/29/2013 6:34:30 AM
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Oh, come on..all worthy images???? I don't think so. Not even close. I see photos every day that are more than just worthy that don't even get an EP.
4/29/2013 6:44:50 AM
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So glad you said this, Carolyn. I have seen so many passed over lately that should get a finalist but has no chance because they didn't even get an EPs.
4/29/2013 9:00:55 AM
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Big CONGRATZ to all the Winners in the March Contest. I am happy and feel lucky to have received one. UB.
4/29/2013 9:12:08 PM
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Hearty congratulations to all the awesome winners!
4/29/2013 10:34:01 PM
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Congratulations to all the winners! I feel quite lucky to have gotten one :)
4/30/2013 7:41:25 PM
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Hi, I just read that the guidelines for contest categories had changed at one point, and I've been searching for about half an hour trying to find the page which describes the contest categories--as far as I can see it is not on the contest guidelines page. Can anyone help me out with a link or description of how to find it? Thanks!
4/12/2013 8:32:01 AM
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http://www.betterphoto.com/contest/categories.asp
4/12/2013 8:59:55 AM
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Thanks so much, Martha!
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April 2013 - No EP Feedback Thread
This is a thread where we can post contest entries that did not receive an EP that you would like to receive constructive ideas on why and what could be improved on the image.Please leave feedback on the image here in this thread as many members do not wish to have those comments directly on the thread of the images. Members may want to upload a "Forum Only" copy of the image. Stay tuned for a possible BP Club for this discussion :) Happy Shooting!
4/8/2013 4:29:56 AM
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Tag. No EFPs so far, so I'm not sure if images have been reviewed.
4/8/2013 4:49:55 AM
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Tagging the thread
4/8/2013 5:46:31 AM
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Not sure whether to post any entries yet for feedback. Entries on 4/1 and 4/5 haven't gotten an EP, but it looks like no one has gotten EP's for anything in April yet.
4/9/2013 9:25:22 PM
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No EPs for me in April ...
4/10/2013 1:00:07 PM
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As far as I can tell no EFP have been given in NL since 4/1. So don't remove any images.
4/10/2013 5:05:05 PM
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I got an EP on my 4/1 entry but don't have another entry till 4/5.
4/15/2013 6:40:38 AM
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I got EPs for 1st and 3rd (both for EODs).
4/15/2013 8:21:33 AM
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I got one on the 1st and none since. Entered every day.
4/15/2013 10:49:47 AM
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OK - this is the one I really thought would get an EP. Now that people 2 or 3 people are seeing EPs on the 5th, it's obvious that this will be skipped over. I'd like some honest critiquing on the entire image. Cropping, title, post production, composition, category? Elements of Design:
March 04 – Wattle
Thanks, Susan - for providing this opportunity.
4/16/2013 8:51:18 AM
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Maybe the wrong category? I think it should have been Detail/Macro. Elements of Design suggest to me, man made devices and/or structures that have a design component either apparent or revealed by the image.
4/16/2013 9:25:22 AM
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Thanks, Ken - I'm thinking you might be right. That eod category has had its boundaries so blurred that I don't "get" why half the entries in it are in it!
4/16/2013 10:34:33 AM
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Btw, before I resubmit in close up/abstract, do you think it should be cropped in a little closer from the right side and bottom?
4/16/2013 10:36:27 AM
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You could try it and see what it does. I tried cropping it on screen and it looked good both ways. I do think I would try a different category. I have never understood some of the categories, sometimes even the entries make no sense.
4/16/2013 2:40:36 PM
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Thanks, Pat. In a couple more days (just in case they're erratic again), I'll try a half-way between crop and see how that looks.
4/16/2013 3:39:22 PM
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Wow! They are tough. I feel I'm shooting the best shot I've ever done. But I've gotten 0 on EFP... Disheartening!
4/17/2013 7:20:28 AM
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Here's my EOD entry for Apr 1---any thoughts would be appreciated.
4/17/2013 9:19:55 AM
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Here are a couple of things that came to mind. Having the double vertical frame dead center might have lessened the impact. More saturation and/or contrast might make it pop. One of my Finalists had more brilliant coloring (ID#13151852 ). Btw, out of all the entries that month, BP's choice surprised the heck out of me! This next one is so miniscule that it may not matter... The horizontal lines feel slightly off (left side dip). It's teeny teeny teeny, but felt off-kilter nonetheless. It sounds like a lot, but really isn't.
I've been noticing that some of my pictures which seem to pop on my laptop become dullish and/or noisy in my gallery entries. I went into great depth just because who the heck knows what they're looking for these days. Hopefully, others will add to my look at it. Did you enter it as an EOD? (that would have been my choice.)
4/17/2013 10:11:26 AM
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Thanks you Kathy for your quick and detailed response---I really appreciate it! I always worry that I will put too much saturation and contrast into my images so your thought that there might not be enough in this one is very enlightening! I actually did the symmetry in this image on purpose---but I think you are right that it might have ended up being detrimental to it in the contest. I swear I checked the level on this multiple times but again I think you are right about the slight off-kilter feeling. So thanks a bunch for your help!
4/17/2013 2:35:40 PM
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Connie - I must have done the scroll-test on every single horizontal line - and still wasn't sure. But then the whole image just kept feeling off (like 120th of an inch, which seems dumb.)
4/17/2013 2:54:47 PM
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BetterPhoto friends, Just in case you did not see my other posts, the EP is not gone. The Editor's Picks are still being rewarded for excellent entries. If there is a delay, it just means the judges are working hard on other stuff and will get back to it asap. We take great pride in that: * EVERY round is judged by a human being, a pro photographer.
* We work very hard, look at EVERY photo. * We do not take the photographer's name into account (when the contestant watermarks the photo, we of course can't control that.) * We look only for photographic excellence, beauty, inspiration, uniqueness... and the qualities of truly amazing photography. I greatly appreciate the love and energy that many of you have expressed in this thread and elsewhere. Your support means so much to me. Sincerely,
Jim P.S. P.S. I want to reiterate that the EPs are still being given out. :-) Help me spread the word.
4/18/2013 12:11:21 PM
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JIm ... this has happened to me before and is happening again. In wondering why some of my images have not received an EP, I look through every single image in that category, and I don't even see my images posted there! They show up on upload page as being in the right categories, but when I select those categories under current contest, the photos do not show up!!!
4/18/2013 12:45:29 PM
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Jim ... one question: If the judges look at every photo, why would an image I post in one week, which didn't get an EP, get an EP later in the month if I repost it in the same category? Are there different judges for each category throughout the month? I can't imagine that the same judge would pass up an image in one week and then give it an EP in another week.
4/18/2013 3:04:09 PM
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Hi Robert, For your contest entries, I look in my Member Center, under My Photos, then under Contest Entries. That's where I double check that my entry "went through." I know that BP has more than one judge in the later rounds, so it's possible that they may in the EP rounds, as well. They might take turns doing EP "duty." That might explain what you are describing?
4/18/2013 5:53:21 PM
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Thanks for your thoughtful response, Jim! Actually, the message Jim left on the March thread is a little more detailed, so I'll copy it in here too: I posting the following on another thread but, because it's important that the truth be expressed, I want to copy it in this thread too. But before I do, let me just give Susan a pat on the back for starting this thread. The original intent was to get and give feedback. I LOVE that! I always wish members did that more on every photo. We don't have time to offer constructive critique on each photo so it's AWESOME when members do so for each other. I highly recommend that you keep this up on these monthly threads and also do so on each photo. If you're concerned about judges reading it, don't be... the judges don't have time to read all the comments. And they prefer to stay out of it so a) they don't get erroneously influenced and, b) they don't see the member's name... so they can continue to judge without any bias. Keep the focus on constructive critique... *******
HERE'S MY NOTE ABOUT THE CONTEST
******* BetterPhoto friends, The EP is not gone. Please help me correct the misinformation that is being spread on this topic. The Editor's Picks are still being rewarded for excellent entries. EVERY round is judged by a human being, a pro photographer. We take great pride in that: we tell the truth, work very hard, look at EVERY photo, and do not take the photographer's name into account (when the contestant watermarks the photo, we of course can't control that.) We look only for photographic excellence, beauty, inspiration, uniqueness... and the qualities of truly amazing photography. I greatly appreciate the love and energy that many of you have expressed in this thread and elsewhere. Your support means so much to me. The reason why we don't answer often is that we have a lot of work to do. Yes, we promote our products; that is what any company does. We serve our clients with love and in truth, AND we work to get more clients so we can continue to grow. That's business. While we read everything, we don't often respond on these threads because we need to focus on work. And it's hard to want to respond when people are unfairly mean. We have a standard here of being constructive, supportive and helpful. Just like you would with a photographer, give thoughtful, encouraging, helpful feedback and live up to the standard of being constructive. If you would not say it about a fellow member or his/her photo, do not say it about me or BetterPhoto. Now I want to reiterate that: a) The EPs are still being given out. b) I love you all :-) c) I send you my blessings and look forward to seeing you continue to enjoy photography and pushing yourself to be your very best in your art. d) I really appreciate the comments and energy of helpfulness that I continually witness in most members. You know who you are, and I thank you from the deepest depths of my heart. If the forums and in your general conversation about BetterPhoto, please help me express what is true. Don't allow yourself to get sucked into meanness or mini-flaming. Just ignore it if someone lashes out in frustration... that is nothing, especially when compared to the amazing energy of camaraderie, friendly encouragement, and family that shine here at BetterPhoto. Sincerely,
Jim
4/18/2013 6:49:00 PM
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Would you please tell me which photo you like best? Double Trouble or Double Trouble 2.
4/21/2013 12:43:27 AM
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Double Trouble OR Double Trouble 2
4/21/2013 12:50:16 AM
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Hi Sharon. I like Double Trouble 2. The light on the top bird gives it more clarity. Details are fabulous. Both are amazing captures.
4/21/2013 4:56:16 AM
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Sharon - after opening them side by side, I'm still not sure why DT (1) appeals to me a tad more than DT2. The crop is slightly different but not enough to matter (maybe.) I think it's the tone of the blue. In the first one, it's slightly different but feels a little richer and so makes the cream colors of the birds pop a teeny bit more. The lighting is slightly darker in the first one but the contrast of the darker blue makes that unimportant to my eyes. As I said, the differences between the two are so minimal, that it's difficult to select. I'd be proud to call either image my own.
4/21/2013 4:58:09 AM
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I was going to try to give a "tie-breaker" opinion but I find myself agreeing with both opinions. The blue is better on the first (and the shadows under the wings wich I think are nice when darker) and the light on the birds is better on the second. How about overlaying #2 on #1, doing a hide all layer mask, and then brushing just the highlighted portion of the birds from #2 onto #1?
4/21/2013 5:08:13 AM
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Which! not wich! My keyboard is getting kind of sticky.
4/21/2013 5:09:41 AM
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Thank you all so much for your help. It is greatly appreciated. Tammy, the lighter one does seem to have more clarity but the sky
doesn't seem dark enough for me for some reason. Kathy, the crop is exactly the same... the contrast must make it look different. I agree with everything you
mentioned. Connie, I agree it is half dozen of one and 6 of the other. I don't
know how to layer so I can't do what you suggested. So, what I have done is I used the magic wand to highlight the sky and then darkened it leaving the birds with the lighter color as in
Double Trouble 2. Man, it's time consuming being a perfectionist. LOL
Here are the three side by side in order of darkest to lightest to make it easier to compare side by side.
1. Double Trouble (Original that has darkest gull & sky)
2. Double Trouble 3 (New and Reworked) Seagulls the same (lighter) as Double Trouble 2 but the sky is darker like the first one Double Trouble. 3. Double Trouble 2 (Original that was the lightest gull & sky)
Hope this all makes sense to you and I am so very grateful that you even take the time to read this as to make sense of it. :)
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ALL MORNING AND HAVE JUST FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO THE LINKS RIGHT AFTER MANY DIFFERENT TRIES. To bed way too late and up way too early and back to bed I will be going after I get this right. Well, at least I've learnt a lot and hopefully my mind will retain it :)
ALSO... YOU CAN GO TO MY GALLERY DOUBLE TROUBLE TEST PAGE AND COMPARE THEM SIDE BY SIDE THERE... whatever is easiest.
DOUBLE TROUBLE TEST
4/21/2013 1:11:09 PM
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PS: It wouldn't upload photos with the uploader so you have to use the link. Thanks again!!!
4/21/2013 1:18:28 PM
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DT3 gets my vote (and I'm really impressed with your "fix", Sharon. Btw, I have had trouble on and off with the uploader for the past few weeks too. It keeps saying that there are too many redirects and I need to grant permissions. Then, it works with no problem on the next attempt. Arggghhh!
4/21/2013 2:03:11 PM
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Kathy, thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I'm leaning towards DT3 now myself. I appreciate your feedback and kind comment. I can upload a photo on Internet Explorer but can't upload a photo with Firefox which is my preference. That is what must have been my problem I forgot Firefox won't let me upload a photo and forget 3. I was working back and forth between the two servers and a little sleep deprived.
Testing on IE with an experimental photo before trying this page as I didn't want to muck it up. Oh yes, IE kicks me out a lot and I have to sign in again. Real tolerant testers... I could grrrrrrrrrrrrr and arggghhh too!!! I see there's new EP just now.. they have a busy 10 days a head of them with EPs, Finalists & Winners. I hope they don't go over into May with the Finalists and Winners. I hate it when that happens... that's just not right. Well have yourself a great day and thanks again. I'm going to have breakfast and then a nap... thank heavens it's raining out anyways. :)
4/21/2013 2:20:22 PM
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I vote for DT3 also. :)
4/21/2013 2:30:15 PM
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I started with IE and ran into problems at DIC, so switched to Firefox (Foxfire?) Then that one became impossible to use and switched to Chrome. Why is it whenever a site "improves" things, it becomes my technical problem to "fix"? So frustrating.
4/21/2013 3:12:46 PM
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Thanks Connie for taking the time out to help me out. Kathy, I agree... and I don't always know how to fix it. Had my breakfast now I'm going to sit back and enjoy a cup of tea. TT4N
4/21/2013 3:35:08 PM
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Great work, Sharon. Will put my vote in for DT3 too.
4/21/2013 5:06:36 PM
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Ladies thanks for all your help working on and deciding what to do with Double Trouble. I decided to delete my first entry and go with DT3 tonight. Stupid me deleted it before I copied & pasted the two comments to the new image. It's been a long day.. no nap but lots accomplished. Have a great week... I will try to make it to all your galleries to take a look and drop a line. TTYL Sharon
4/21/2013 9:32:08 PM
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Is this something new to the new version galleries or has it always been there? I tested Susan's gallery and it doesn't happen with her photos but does on some of Tammy's & mine. When you run your mouse over your small thumbnails of your images it shows the name you have given your photo... not the title. I've never noticed it before and I don't like it. How about you? I know when they first changed things I couldn't name my photos before uploading them so just gave up on it so maybe they fixed it. Do you catch my drift? :)
4/21/2013 10:17:18 PM
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Hi Sharon,
I didn't get a chance to see the earlier entries but DT3 is excellent! Great job.Regarding the file names, it has been that way as long as I can remember. I don't like it either.
4/22/2013 8:03:28 AM
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Thanks, Martha. The earlier entries were the same two as in DT TEST before adding the DT3 image, so you saw all of them. I agree that DT3 is the one so I uploaded to the contest last night. I'm in spring cleaning mode and got a little carried away... should have waited a little longer before deleting them. Oh well... :) Also glad you agree about the thumbnails. I think it looks tacky. I just checked Kathy W and Connie B's galleries and theirs are the same as ours but Tammy A's has the correct title name. Maybe she could help us fix ours. Tammy would you please let us know how you upload your photos and how you get the correct title on your small thumbnails? We don't know how to fix it. It would be greatly appreciated.
4/22/2013 10:44:44 AM
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Hi Ladies. I see what you mean. Don't know if this will make a difference but I always go to My Photos, then under the Enter Our Monthly Contest I click on the Image Upload tab. That takes me to the page then. Let me know if that is different then how yous do it.
4/22/2013 12:11:56 PM
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Junco Jackpot 2
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Not sure why I didn't get an EFP for this. Any pointers as to why? It was entered under Animals...
4/26/2013 7:56:13 AM
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Here's the link to one of the photos I entered. No EFP as of yet. http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGallDetailMember.asp?photoID=13821283&catID=&camID=&zulu=&contestCatID=
4/26/2013 2:09:52 PM
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Ahhh Spring!
Canada Goose Gosling. First gosling photograph of the season. Luckily the parents were fairly tolerant, they can be quite aggressive. I love that Canada Geese share parenting duties.
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My gosling got skipped :(
4/27/2013 9:14:22 AM
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Beautiful image Leslie. I have no idea why it was skipped. Maybe composition... Try to use the thirds more...?
4/27/2013 11:42:09 AM
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This gosling is adorable and well captured. No idea why it didn't get an EF. Resubmit, it will get one and more next time! Got to get myself out there and find myself some babies to photograph. It's such a wonderful time of year for that. Love it!
4/27/2013 1:48:54 PM
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Ken and Leslie. Your birds may have been skipped for the same reason that I'm thinking that mine was - not a tight enough crop. I'm pulling mine and trying again - it's too darned good a shot not to be a Finalist or better (let alone having an EP.
4/27/2013 4:49:03 PM
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Unfortunately I was shooting on a 200mm on an APS-C sensor and I've already cropped the heck out of it. No resolution left.
4/27/2013 4:59:36 PM
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Mine is full-frame, so I could crop but I don't think that's the problem.
4/27/2013 5:06:37 PM
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Nuts! Too bad about the options.
4/27/2013 5:14:16 PM
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I've looked at these images several times and don't have any magic answers---I have a couple of images skipped this time that make me scratch my head too. I did have a couple of thoughts that I could share. Ken, the upper part of the background and the upper part of the bird are both dark. I think it is a lovely image with great composition but it might have done better in the contest if the background had been a contrasting color so that the bird popped out a bit more. I say that too, remembering some of the bird images that have won in previous months. Melissa, when I studied your image I realized that some of the bird is in focus and that mostly just his head and neck are blurred with movement---and I understand that the movement is what the image is about and I love the spraying droplets. But my eye just insists on going back to the bird's eye and it leaves me feeling like the whole image is out of focus even though it's not. Of course that could just be me and have nothing to do with what any judge thought. Leslie your little gosling is adorable and perfect. I'll share something that I just read the other day. When someone looks at a photo their eye is drawn first to the lightest thing in the photo---and that thing often compels the viewer to return again and again. So even though I really like the soft white flowers framing the gosling I think it's possible that they are so intensely white that they are drawing the viewer's attention away from your subject. I always hesitate to suggest things for fear that I will be totally wrong and hurt more than I help---but I know how good it feels to have a second person at least offer an opinion on a photo so I thought I'd try.
4/27/2013 5:38:58 PM
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Thanks for the input Connie!
4/27/2013 5:49:41 PM
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Connie - never be afraid to make suggestions, especially after it's already been skipped over (not before, unless asked.) Chances are that the judges may think something is wrong that we can't see ourselves. It's just another opinion, like the judges' (they could be wrong too.) Also, thanks for sharing that part about light spots catching one's eye - it's true I think. The other thing that always bothers me is when the crop leaves an open area off the edge or something sticks out into the picture for no reason. It always helps me to hear other comments - it's amazing how each of us can miss the teeniest flaw (that eventually becomes huge!)
4/27/2013 6:06:04 PM
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Tammy, thank you for your feedback on the image uploading. I've tried all the ways there are in Firefox and Internet Explorer and can't upload at all on some and get the same results on the others. I will have to email tech support. I've been saving up a bunch of glitches and problems I have noticed on the site to share with them when they don't seem so busy. Kathy, do you mean Brrrrrr? If so, what I see is... the bill of the little bird disappears into the black of the rest of it's feathers. Connie, thank you for you info on each image you commented on as I learnt a lot from what you said.
4/27/2013 6:23:50 PM
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To all who've given great feedback - thank you! I also learn so much. It's like seeing through different eyes and very enlightening. I have one or two I'll be posting once this weekend is over.It's very busy at the studio where I work due to Mothers day!
4/27/2013 6:40:54 PM
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Yes to Brrrrrrrr. I've been working on it, and will resubmit - not sure how soon. I've been getting this message a little too often lately (sometimes during an upload and sometimes on other urls.) Frustrating! "This webpage has a redirect loop
The webpage at [attempted url has resulted in too many redirects. Clearing your cookies for this site or allowing third-party cookies may fix the problem. If not, it is possibly a server configuration issue and not a problem with your computer. Error 310 (net::ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS): There were too many redirects."
4/27/2013 6:55:55 PM
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Yes to Brrrrrrrr. I've been working on it, and will resubmit - not sure how soon. I've been getting this message a little too often lately (sometimes during an upload and sometimes on other urls.) Frustrating! "This webpage has a redirect loop
The webpage at [attempted url has resulted in too many redirects. Clearing your cookies for this site or allowing third-party cookies may fix the problem. If not, it is possibly a server configuration issue and not a problem with your computer. Error 310 (net::ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS): There were too many redirects."
4/27/2013 6:55:55 PM
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Just did another test... I can upload from "Upload New Photo" on Firefox & Internet Explorer but I give it a title in IE and it still shows the file name in the small thumbnail in my gallery. When I use "Image Uploader" I get the message below. So I can't find out if in IE or FF if the title I give it would show up instead of the file name. Grrrrrrrrrr!
Page Error
The page you requested has an error. We have recorded the error and will attempt to fix it as soon as possible.
Tips and tricks: If you were writing an input - a question, comment, or discussion - use your browser's Back button to retrieve what you wrote.
If you received this error while trying to view a photo gallery, click the Refresh button on your browser. It often works when you try to access the page a second time.
If you got this error while trying to upload an image, make sure that the image is not too large. See the instructions on the previous upload page for specific info. The images are the right size so that's not the problem.
4/27/2013 7:46:19 PM
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Kathy, do you know how to clear your cookies?
4/27/2013 7:48:48 PM
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Yes, I clear them automatically and then I go through the entire list and take out any that are still in the list of visited sites. Sharon, I've gotten that message for a long time (error 310 is fairly new - with no changes on my end of things!) The Page Error that you've cited seems to happen after I upload several images and then try to edit them. I've learned to just add the title and/or description on maybe 3, and then go to the bottom and hit Submit. At that point, I can return to the latest uploads and edit the rest of them. If the description is the same for most of them, I keep a document open and do a copy and paste just in case BP dumps my efforts with the Page error. That way I don't have to retype it all.
4/27/2013 7:54:03 PM
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Never seen your problem Kathy. Regarding my problem check your small thumbnails in your gallery and you will see it has the long file name you gave it before uploading and not the title. Even if you give it the title name before uploading it still shows up the file name. Tammy Anderson has the title name and I suppose others must have to. Many have the file name like ours. ?????? Can't figure it out.
4/27/2013 8:14:51 PM
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Actually, I've been leaving my file number/name until I'm ready to enter it (date is in the description) and then I give it a regular title. I change it to a regular title name the day I enter the image.
4/27/2013 8:54:28 PM
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Actually, I've been leaving my file number/name until I'm ready to enter it (date is in the description) and then I give it a regular title. I change it to a regular title name the day I enter the image.
4/27/2013 8:54:28 PM
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Run your mouse over your small thumbnails and see what it says. It should have the title not the file name. There must be a way BP can have it so only the title shows and not the tacky file name. Mine are quite long and ugly. File number and title are two different things. When you change it on the day to enter it in the contest it should change to the title name and not stay with the file name on the small thumbnail. I hope I'm explaining it clearly, sorry if I'm not. Well, that's enough computer for me for the day. Have a good night everyone and have a blessed Sunday!!!
4/27/2013 9:22:59 PM
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Hi everyone! I've started a critique thread for May images not receiving an EP. Feel free to also post any April images with no EPs that you want to improve/resubmit! (apologies, I don't know how to embed links here!) http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=35967
5/9/2013 6:42:48 AM
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APRIL EFP's
Hoping this is ok...:) good luck
4/7/2013 3:25:06 PM
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Thanks for posting this Cheri....
4/7/2013 4:34:38 PM
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Since I don't have any for April, I'll just tag..
4/7/2013 4:45:20 PM
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Tag Here's hoping :)
4/7/2013 5:09:12 PM
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Tag-none yet.
4/7/2013 5:14:34 PM
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Tag. None for me.
The silence is deafening.
4/7/2013 5:16:55 PM
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I'm thinking they are waiting for the 1/2 month before revealing them, then constantly being 2 weeks behind.
4/7/2013 5:19:15 PM
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Just tagging the thread.
4/7/2013 5:19:32 PM
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Just tagging the thread--I haven't entered any photos yet this month.
4/7/2013 6:13:58 PM
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None here either...
4/7/2013 6:45:29 PM
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I will join you all and tag the thread as well - none yet.
4/7/2013 8:32:02 PM
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Thanks Cheri for the April thread. Looks like you we're not late at all. None for me so far too, tagging. UB.
4/7/2013 10:30:10 PM
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Tag.
4/8/2013 12:18:03 AM
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It's April 8 and so far we are all tagging the thread, doesn't that seem strange?
4/8/2013 3:19:38 AM
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I think just a few EPs for the 1st have
come out..If anybody has seen one past the first, let us know here.
4/8/2013 4:21:35 AM
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Only 2 entries so far this month for me because work has been too busy. No EPs yet so I'm just tagging. I started a new April thread for posting and discussion on images that don't get an EP for those interested. http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=35950 Thanks Cheri and happy spring shooting, EP or no EP!
4/8/2013 4:36:28 AM
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Thanks for starting that auxiliary thread, Susan. I have an entry for the 4th that has me waiting with bated breath.
4/8/2013 5:55:43 AM
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or baited breath! geeze!
4/8/2013 6:57:33 AM
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Which one is it Kathy? I looked at your gallery but didn't see a specific entry album.
4/8/2013 8:19:09 AM
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Color Splash
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4/1 Flowers
4/8/2013 9:48:08 AM
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Well, I like my two barns, but it's the "Wattle" one that has me hoping. That's also the one that is entered as an EOD and which will be resubmitted as "Animals" later on - if need be.
4/8/2013 9:54:44 AM
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I'm not surprised....
I haven't received any EP's either...
4/8/2013 10:30:00 AM
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Tagging to follow along.
4/8/2013 11:48:01 AM
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Congratulations Lola on the EFP! Very well deserved.
4/8/2013 12:05:56 PM
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Shaving Brush Tree
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One for me from the first.
4/8/2013 12:07:36 PM
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I don't remember how to do one that actually links to the gallery. Just uploaded it again for here.
4/8/2013 12:10:37 PM
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A reliable source told me this morning that they had two editors that are not even photographers-could explain a lot, but take it for what it is-hearsay....?
4/8/2013 1:18:24 PM
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I've heard the same thing for years. I believe it's true.
4/8/2013 2:38:50 PM
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That explains a lot!!
4/8/2013 3:21:09 PM
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Tag! Nothing yet. Have two in. We shall see. God Luck everyone!
4/8/2013 3:32:58 PM
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Tag.
4/8/2013 4:23:04 PM
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No EP's for me either.
4/9/2013 5:04:36 AM
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I think a lot of people are not commenting on other's photos either, because they are depressed about not getting EFPs and the judging on the contest. In other words, not a lot of "sharing" going on.
4/9/2013 5:16:10 AM
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I agree, Nancy. Not a lot going on around here. Boring for sure.
4/9/2013 5:27:44 AM
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I always used this thread as a jumping off place - following the links to the images, then to that photographer's other images, and finally following the links of others who had also commented. That latter move led me to "meet" many additional members. I used to start each day with New Arrivals, but quickly become bogged down when the professional portrait photogs uploaded all their even pictures. One person could cover 3 - 10 screens of thumbnails. That's when I started sticking with Cheri's thread as the starting point.
4/9/2013 6:40:25 AM
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Just a thought: if BP no longer wants to sort through the numerous contest entries and only has a few people selecting EP's, why don't they let us choose. We can vote daily, or whenever, per category. At the deadline those with most votes get into the contest for finalists, then winners...judged by pro judges. It would create a lot of site activity and still give the photographer judging by a professional at the finalist/ winner level. I know that other sites offer something similar, but none that have pro judges. Except Nat'l Geo, of course.
4/9/2013 7:03:56 AM
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The problem with us voting is it's always a popularity contest..That's one thing I never do is enter contests where the members vote. Of course if they did that, it would give me a good excuse to not enter, and that would give me a good excuse to not stay at BP..so maybe it's a good idea after all.
4/9/2013 7:21:28 AM
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And Kathy, here's where to look if you just want the new contest entries...
http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGallMember.asp?pageID=1&catID=560&contestCatID=&camID=&zulu=
I just saved it to my favorites and when I want to see what's new, that's where to go. Only contest entries go in there.
4/9/2013 7:24:39 AM
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Carolyn you are so right about that. I would not be entering either.
4/9/2013 7:48:13 AM
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Oh we'll, just a thought. And on 2nd thought...I agree with you guys :)))
4/9/2013 8:33:05 AM
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Yeah...I hate popularity contests...I'm not popular, so I guess that's why I hate them! I would NOT be entering either! Yet another reason to vacate this place!
(still no EP's....go figure)
4/9/2013 10:21:32 AM
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I'm beginning to wonder what the criteria is for selection. There are a bunch of photos getting passed over. I'm hesitant to put anything in the contest anymore without knowing what's going on. I don't enter many anyway, but still...... I do know a person doesn't have to be a member to enter the contest now. BTW, has anyone here ever gotten and explanation from Kerry about the changes that are coming?
4/9/2013 10:43:13 AM
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I'm beginning to wonder what the criteria is for selection. There are a bunch of photos getting passed over. I'm hesitant to put anything in the contest anymore without knowing what's going on. I don't enter many anyway, but still...... I do know a person doesn't have to be a member to enter the contest now. BTW, has anyone here ever gotten and explanation from Kerry about the changes that are coming?
4/9/2013 10:43:15 AM
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I finally found the "New Entries" link (long ago forgotten) and started following it. But, for some reason, I ended back in the "New Arrivals" (maybe). At least, it seemed that way unless one of the wedding photographers was entering every single picture he/she took. Btw, 1st/2nd/4th/7th - nothing yet. Oh well, we'll all be able to figure out the Finalists and Winners before they're announced, won't we?
4/9/2013 11:49:33 AM
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I'm tagging, too.
4/9/2013 12:11:59 PM
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Kathy,
If you will go to the top of this or any page at BP, put your cursor on the tab that says "CONTEST", and choose "RECENT ENTRIES" from the drop down menu - it's the 2nd one - you will be fine. There is no need to save a link and no way that I can see to get into New Arrivals if you do this.
4/9/2013 12:41:31 PM
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Nikki - that's the route I followed - although, this time, I'm cruising the NEs by category - it seems to be more efficient. I'm thinking that a lot of bridal pictures really were entries before and I never did "leave" the link I wanted.
4/9/2013 1:23:38 PM
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Tag, ya'll are it! :-)
4/9/2013 11:30:48 PM
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It's pretty obvious to me what is going on: Increasing the number of people who sign up for courses. When a majority of photos were getting EP's, there was not much incentive to pay for courses to improve your skill with a camera. Now, with far fewer EP's being given out, and even photos that really deserve an EP not getting one, I am sure that the powers that be in Better Photo think that more people will be motivated to take courses. Probably a good business move by BP. I expect they will get some more students in their classes once people get over the feeling of satisfaction they had when the BP's were being given out freely, probably too freely, and start feeling anxious. Others, like me, will move on to other things. I've taken 3 courses in the past, have no intention of taking any more from BP, don't feel my life depends on getting a EP, and don't like
thinking I am being manipulated.
4/10/2013 6:21:58 AM
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I'm with you, Ken. I, also have a b/g in photography, trained to take crime scenes, using b/w film-a very long time ago, but you don't forget your skills when a case might depend on them. Although I was not specifically thinking about the ROTs, I had to have good lighting (a very high speed of film) and produce a detailed series of photos along with other documentation. I, also have taken three BP classes to brush up on digital lighting and composition. Those of us that have been here at BP at least 3 years, and have paid attention to what has been happening, surely cannot fail to see the changes regarding everything going on in the administration that has had affected the membership, especially the oldest members, and their complaints. In my experience, it is the squeaky wheel that gets noticed, but mostly to their detriment. BP is a big business like any other that will change regardless of the feelings of their customers, preferring to line their pockets instead. Our membership does not run their business, it is run by the proceeds of the classes offered to all those new members coming in. It is sad that they have no loyalty to the old guard, but it is what it is. The photo world online has changed in the last 3 years, finding many more choices online than ever before that are competitive with BP, and I personally know that there are others, including me that take classes from these places that have highly-regarded world renowned photographer/teachers too. I am sticking with BP for the time being, but my interest is waining as I see many respected amateurs as well as serious professionals leaving and going elsewhere- so sad, but it is not a new story.
4/10/2013 7:56:02 AM
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I like your thought line there, Ken. I'm in my second course at BP and I'm really not very satisfied with it. I'll finish it,but no more for me. I joined BP for the camaraderie and fun. The camaraderie is still great, but the rest well....that's still up for debate. I have found another place to take classes and I'll try one there to see if I like it or not. My membership for BP isn't up for a while, but renewing may not be something I do. I sure to enjoy the fun of the couple of club I'm in and the forum here! You guys, rock!
4/10/2013 7:58:10 AM
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I think you're right Ken..... Very well put!
4/10/2013 2:02:37 PM
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Tag. No EPs.
4/10/2013 2:05:50 PM
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My sentiments exactly Ken. No coincidence that all of this has happened at the same time. I get emails all the time about classes. In stead of making me want to take one, it is having the opposite effect on me. I don't like the feeling of being manipulated. I am older and my tolerance for BS has diminished greatly over the years. I paid the 2 for 1 but not sure how long I will submit. Like everyone has said, there are other fish in the sea.
4/10/2013 2:22:50 PM
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What BP has going for it is these forums. Nobody I've seen has anything nearly this good. Not where you can communicate with each other and stuff can be seen by the group.
4/10/2013 3:04:12 PM
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Jackie M. Sajewski
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I agree Carolyn but fear that this communication will die down if BP decides to continue to lack communication about the contest and give out EP in a timely manner. Yet they sound out at least two emails a day concerning classes, self paced courses and website.
4/10/2013 3:30:48 PM
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That's true!
4/10/2013 4:08:49 PM
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I rarely comment on this thread…..but this BP site is not too fun to pull up in the mornings with your cup of coffee any more.
4/10/2013 4:56:21 PM
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Yeah, Anita. I don't get why anyone would run their business this way. Their paying customers ought to take priority. I'm about ready to call it quits.
4/10/2013 5:41:40 PM
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I took that two-week class (a new concept) called "Snow Photography" with Jim Zuckerman. It was my first course and I really enjoyed it - especially, as it coincided with my trip to Niagara Falls in the Winter. I learned quite a bit, received very positive feedback from Jim, and had one of my images get a POTD. Yet, not one of them was recognized as a Finalist, let alone took a place anywhere on the Winner's List for February. I know that the competition is stiff. I know that there are photographers who are eons ahead of me technically (both in-camera and post-production wise.) I also know that having my images do well at BP is a rare occurrence. I also know that there were disappointing moments for me every month, but nothing that dimmed my enthusiasm. Lately, it's been harder to keep up that kind of enthusiasm here. If it weren't for the non-photographers in my "real world" who think I'm a great photographer and my supportive friends at BP, it would be easy to doubt my abilities. It also doesn't hurt that one of my images was chosen by the Detroit Historical Society (after a long search for just the right picture) to become a 10-foot mural in the maritime museum, which will hang for 15 years. BP did give me an EP at the end of February, but didn't think it was good enough for a Finalist. I'm betting that most of you (especially, those of us middle-of-the-road photogs at BP) are feeling pretty much the same. Bummer!
4/10/2013 6:17:58 PM
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I would hope that folks don't second guess their abilities here. There is obviously a ton of talent and vision coming from the members. Once BP is able to look back in retrospect at their actions, or lack of, they will be embarrassed, or should be, of their business practices. If people leave, which many will, they should not feel bad of doing so. If I didn't respond to my customers in a timely fashion, I would be fired too. You need to do your job to retain your customers..period.
4/10/2013 7:48:05 PM
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Kathy, I totally agree with your comments. I don't get many EP's or finalists for that matter. I know there are many photo folks on here who are leagues ahead in abilities over me. They've worked pretty hard to get there, too. WTG! However, my enthusiasm is dimming for BP. I keep getting emails on classes and I'm already in one. I'm not all that pleased with it. The first class I took was a good one. Any more in my future here at BP, I doubt it. I don't feel encouraged to put in for the contest anymore since I have no idea what is a good photo or not. I have read what "rules" about what they consider a good photo, but too many excellent ones are being passed over and some not so good are getting in. But, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I do enjoy reading this forum and looking at the fellow photog's galleries. You guys are inspiring! BP, like many other companies, are forgetting their base. It's like the satellite TV company offering signup specials to get new business and they don't do anything for the folks that have been there for a while. Maybe BP could offer a half-off a 4 or 8 week class for members who have been here for a year or more. Kinda doubt it.
4/11/2013 7:10:38 AM
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Tag - just so I can find the thread if they make it private again! No EP's yet.
4/11/2013 10:36:13 AM
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I just read the ABOUT on better photo. It does not seem that the contest is a primary focus. It's about becoming a better photographer through classes and relationships. I came to BF because of the contest and maybe I should re-evaluate.
4/11/2013 11:25:17 AM
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Ken, I think a bunch of folks are going to re-evaluate. I've already been searching for place to takes classes. I've taken two here and really only liked one. Of course, I haven't taken from more instructors, but......the contest was a nice added benefit! Alas, but not anymore! No more entries for me at least for now. Stick a fork in me; I'm done with the contest.
4/11/2013 11:49:56 AM
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It is troublesome to read the posts in this thread and others that indicate that many BP members have allowed themselves to become so dependent on getting an EP that they are unsure of the value of their photos if they are not given an EP. Ask yourself, what do we know about the people who do the first review when the EPs are handed out. Are they qualified to make an evaluation, do they even have enough time to carefully look at a photo. Read the post of Kathy W, for example. She received very positive feedback from Jim Zuckerman, someone I know from having taken 3 courses from, but not of them was a finalist, not even the one featured as a POTD. Doesn't that tell you something? Then what about the photo selected by the Detroit Historical Society after an extended search for the right photo, to become part of a 10 foot mural in a very prominent location. That photo didn't get a finalist either. What difference does it make if your photo gets a EP if you are pleased and others you sow it to are, too? Ask yourself, have you become addicted to EP's, do you base your sense of self worth as a photographer on whether or not you get an EP?
4/11/2013 11:55:32 AM
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My own self-worth is not as much in question as my self-worth as a member of BP. I like my own work (a lot, actually) but wonder why I'm not living up to BP criteria. Feedback is important to me, which is why I backed out Jim M's latest class. It's also why I became active at BP. The "All or Nothing" at Digital Image Cafe wasn't giving me any sense if I was growing. The EPs were in a sense a first step. If an image made Finalist, that was one more step (although, goodness knows some of those choices had me scratching my head!) I've made one Winner in all this time and one POTD. I'd prefer to have true critiquing, because I honestly don't know if it's my photographic talents or my post-productive skills that are lacking (or if either.) I recognize outstanding images and many times see that quality in my work. Other times, I can see why some images are going nowhere. In lieu of critiquing at BP, I rely on the contest steps to help me do some self-evaluation and to compare my work against others (good learning tool.) Gosh, I'm starting to feel as though I'm on the Photo-Psychiatrist's couch! loll
4/11/2013 12:16:04 PM
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Kathy Wesserling,BP is a business organization, first, last, and always. They are not getting income from the photo contest and giving EP's does not benefit them. Quite the contrary,it costs them money to give out EP's because they have to pay the secretaries, or whoever they use (maybe the custodian, too) to glance at the photos and pass out the EP's. What they want is people to sign up for courses. If they aren't signing up in sufficient numbers when EP's are given daily, thinking they really don't need to pay hundreds of dollars because they are already doing pretty good work with a camera, then why not stop giving EP's so people get anxious and sign up for classes because they conclude they need to improve their skill so they can again get EP's. Is one of the earlier posters pointed out, do you think it is a coincidence that at the same time we are being bombarded with messages tying to sell us the "whole enchalada" that the EP machine has been turned off? BP is a business, never forget it. Their goal is not to give you a sense of worth as a photographer, their goal is to cause you to take courses. Withholding rewards is a technique often used to get children to do what you want them to do. Now it is being used on you and the rest of us. Unless you recognize that, you will continue to check your gallery hoping to see a BP, continue to read threads like this hoping for news. See EPs for what they really are. A tool to help BP achieve its business goals.
4/11/2013 1:10:25 PM
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Well, anyway for those with photos in for this month - Good Luck! I hope we have some winners here! I'm still a tag for the two I have entered. That's okay. This is a very subjective art form and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Kathy W, I'm in your boat on this one. I like to get the EP because at least I know I may have done something right on a particular photo if it's actual photographers that are judging. It has nothing to do with my self-worth either. It's just one very small accomplishment for me. It may be small, but it's still there. Lol Have a nice evening everyone! :-)
4/11/2013 1:51:59 PM
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The reason EPs have any importance at all is that if you don't get one, you know that photo is out for the month and you can decide if you want to resubmit it in the future. Otherwise they mean very little. Nobody is judging at that stage anyway, but without one, there can be no finalist.
4/11/2013 1:58:00 PM
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Kalena, yes, if it is actual photographers judging, and if they have time to really consider every photo. That we don't know, and it is very unlikely we will ever be told. Personally, I don't in my mind's eye see professional photographers going through all the photos submitted each month. BP's are a business tool. Their first use was to attract a large pool of people who are interested in photography and, therefore, potential students. That goal has been accomplished. BP has a huge base of potential students, a huge number of email addresses. The fish, who have been kept interested by EP's are on the hook are now being reeling in.
4/11/2013 2:47:05 PM
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I must not be on the hook yet because I'm not being reeled in.
4/11/2013 2:50:36 PM
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Jackie M. Sajewski
member since: 3/21/2010
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Ken I dont think people are falling for this hook line and sinker as you think. In fact I think they are having problems getting classes filled. Look at the latest scheme. I received 1-2 emails daily about getting the whole enchilada. Yesterday was the final final final time to take advantage of the offer. Whats in my email from BP this afternoon, same offer but now its a strange but true story. Give me a break.
4/11/2013 2:57:13 PM
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I agree, Jackie. This just makes be know for sure I don't want to take a class.
4/11/2013 3:02:01 PM
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With the economy the way it is, I can understand folks not taking classes. I had to save up to take the one I'm in now, but I'm sure tired of all the email touting the self-paced classes and stuff. I get at least one a day. Sometimes more. Like, Tammy, it turns me off. The reel in' in is over for me after this class. No more for me. I'll stick to the couple of clubs I'm in and the forum.
4/11/2013 3:08:28 PM
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I was trying to add a link in my deluxe website and it didn't work. When I deleted it, it now shows the BP home page.(not my gallery-so that is what anyone visiting will see) I had to send BP an email asking for help. Do you think someone will help me? I'm really concerned because it seems obvious that communication is a problem. Yikes!
4/11/2013 3:09:14 PM
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Jay Wadley [jawadley@gmail.com] is very responsive - I have used him frequently for web site questions and problems.
4/11/2013 3:22:12 PM
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Thanks so much Rona! If I don't hear back soon I will keep him in mind :)
4/11/2013 3:24:10 PM
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Jackie, I guess I didn't make my point clearly. I am absolutely sure that they are not getting the number of students that they want. If they were, they wouldn't be playing their game with the contest and EP's. They are hoping that by withholding the EP's they will cause at least some of us to get anxious enough to sign up for classes in the belief that will help get EP's for our images. Those who are worried because today is April 11 and we have not yet gotten an EP, and wonder whether anybody has are viewed, I'm sure, by BP as good prospects. And that some will weaken if the pressure is maintained and sign up for classes. That is what I meant by reeling in. They must be desperate if the number of messages, last chances, etc., that we are being bombarded with are any indication. Maybe they are even having to lay off the secretaries who did the screening for EP's Time will tell.
4/11/2013 3:26:25 PM
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Rona is right. Jay is the smiley face of BP.. He rarely fails to get an answer, but I don't know if anybody else even tries.
4/11/2013 3:26:37 PM
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Thanks Carolyn! I really appreciate it:)
4/11/2013 3:41:25 PM
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I think Ken is right but I am not being reeled in!
4/11/2013 4:08:26 PM
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Sorry I'm a bit off subject here..... But for those interested Jay helped me immediately! My problem is now fixed!
4/11/2013 4:14:40 PM
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Jackie M. Sajewski
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Thats awesome Chris
4/11/2013 4:18:17 PM
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No EP's for me this month..... oh well.
4/11/2013 4:57:10 PM
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Jackie M. Sajewski
member since: 3/21/2010
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Me either Harriet but I have gotten a few hearts from people. That feels actually more wonderful than an EP. :)
4/11/2013 4:59:52 PM
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Tag,none for me.
4/11/2013 5:21:09 PM
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Ken, I'm not 100% convinced that BP is withholding the EP because of the lack of class sign-ups. I have no idea where BP gets all its revenue. I suspect some comes from the classes, and some are from the annual gallery renewals or the pro/deluxe websites. I agree with you that BP is a business. And in this Internet age of start-up companies, I give BP credit for being viable for so many years. And hopefully for many more. But from a business point of view, it makes sense to be responsive to its customer base. Or at least the portion of BP that enjoys the contest. There's no harm in awarding EPs in a timely and consistent manner...realizing there will be times when other priorities preclude daily EP updates. And if they are consistent in the percentage of EPs, then it's easier for folks to gauge their growth. I've seen many folks discouraged because they did not get an EP, when the rate was 25%. Their photos were great; the EP picker was more stringent. And when the rate was 80%, everyone was happy and I suspect some got the false sense that they had improved, because many of their photos got an EP. I'm not a business expert...but based on the amount of feedback I'm seeing on the forum, many are getting disgruntled...and disgruntled people will leave. Some already have. And that means loss of revenue for future galleries or classes. I hope BP keeps the contest going. It was the main reason I joined BP many years ago. And I'm glad I did, because I've met many great friends here...and have kept my joy of photography alive. It's been a near-daily part of my life since 2005. I don't know the direct or indirect costs for running the contest, but I believe BP feels it's a foundational part of their income..a viable contest brings in people...more chances for them to purchase galleries/classes. Take it away, and the reverse happens. Well, I typed more than I had planned and I hope I haven't offended anyone. I love BP. People are unhappy. I hope BP does a better job with its customer relations. Just a simple response in the forum...not just to the EP thing, but anytime there's a major issue/question...followed by verifiable action, would allay many concerns.
4/11/2013 5:26:00 PM
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Thank-you, Ken Smith you said it well.
4/11/2013 5:41:55 PM
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Just tagging too....and hopeful! :-)
4/11/2013 5:59:10 PM
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As I said, Ken, we'll see. But I don't think BP owes me anything. And I don't think what I pay for my gallery covers much of their expenses, especially since as a revenue getting measure they give 2 years for the price of 1 for renewal. I don't think the contest was ever intended to be a public service measure, I believe the intention was to build a following. When they switched from 255 to 80% EP's, I think that was to hold onto their following and increase it. Getting more to enroll, being the goal. My belief is that now times are very tough for BP due to the economy and people are not signing up for courses in sufficient numbers to give them the revenue they want/need. If I were in BP's shoes, I wouldn't care if somebody like me left. I'm not going to take another course. They got all they are going to get from me in course fees when I took 3 four years ago. Regarding my gallery, I think it costs them more to have somebody look at my submissions to the contest than they get from me for the 50% of the annual fee I pay for my gallery. I don't know, either, what is going on. Maybe they are downsizing and don't care if those whose only interest is the contest and, maybe, the forum leave. Maybe they have had to cut staff and can't continue reviewing photos as previously. Sure, I liked getting EP's and finalists, as well as the 2nd place I got for a recent photo, but if I never get another I will not lose a minute of sleep. In fact they may be monitoring this thread now and have already put me down as a trouble maker. In any case, we'll see.
4/11/2013 6:12:04 PM
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Just tagging...none for me.
4/11/2013 6:32:20 PM
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No EPs is not a very good feeling of course, and I would miss them if they are gone for good. However, at the same time, I do realize that we are amid a changing environment at BP, as the management have earlier communicated to us all!!! There may have been a lot more changes to the way the contest is run which we are totally unaware of, and hence are not worried about. EPs or lack thereof, is the only big change each one of us has noticed and mostly disliked, and probably rightly so. CHANGE, by its nature, is always difficult to digest and largely disliked, but it is also responsible for being the engine of growth and improvement in many facets of life. I love BP for all it is and especially because of the wonderful community/interaction/friendships/inspiration/ learning so on ans so forth which it has provided to us all. So I, for one, am just HANGING ON to weather this storm. UB. PS: This change would have been much easier to digest, had BP elaborated a little bit more on the new methodology being adopted but then again, they have always been mum about the nitty gritty of running this contest and probably they will keep silent this time too!!!
4/11/2013 9:43:15 PM
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If EP’s continue to be the selection criteria for the images to advance in the contest and this sudden change in the way the images are being judged ( that is from almost every image with a EP badge to very few selected ones) , it would be very interesting to see the contest result for March when released later in this month ( because very few images got EP’s last month) ……how many finalists and winners are coming out from it ..... I agree with what ken said . The one simple reason as why I have managed to be around for so many years in BP is the fact that I love BP and the ecosystem around it.... I did not join BP for contest though, I joined BP to ask questions back in 2001 after I bought my first SLR and was overwhelmed by the responses from all those wonderfully friendly members who were around then and even Jim himself and that legacy has continued over all these years and along with the contest the wonderful BP community members are its biggest assets, even now....since 2001 and after I rejoined and started entering the contest from 2006, whatever little I have learnt , I owe a great deal from the BP ecosystem – the contest, the inspiring images , all you wonderful people out here and some of the friendships that I’ll always cherish . They have managed to run this site and the contest successfully for many years now and that’s quite an achievement and I would not like to discard BP for bringing in uncomfortable changes and not talking about it, just yet……also we don’t know if the change that we saw last month is going to be the new norm …..members are not happy because they want to know what’s going on and I don’t see any harm with at least a response here in the forum from someone in BP…… they can definitely do a much better job in responding to the concerns of its own members and should make visible efforts to hold the BP community together because if it starts breaking , I am not sure how many of us will be interested to only enter the contest for a Winner/Finalist Badge....
4/12/2013 1:30:12 AM
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I did get a new EP for April 1st last night.
4/12/2013 1:30:50 AM
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I didn't get one for the First April but I see an EP under the Apil 2nd image. I guess the EPs will be rolling out soon for more days today!!! UB.
4/12/2013 1:51:16 AM
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4/1.. Skipped
4/2..Landscape..We Think He Walks On Water
4/12/2013 2:13:18 AM
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My Mother No EP Yet!
April 1, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Digital Darkroom Melbourne Gold
April 2, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Travel & Place QVB
April 3, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Elements of Design
4/12/2013 3:17:43 AM
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TAG-nothing for April yet : (
4/12/2013 6:55:03 AM
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A Touch of Green
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Woo-hoo!!! An EP!!!!!!!
4/12/2013 7:01:20 AM
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So, I've been reading this thread because I've certainly noticed all the changes in handing out EP's lately. I sent them an e-mail asking what was going on with the EP's and why they are so scarce. I mentioned that I got them regularly and now hardly any. I said I don't think my photography skills have changed for the worse from last month to this month. lol They responded "There have been no changes in the judging criteria". That was it. I'm like, "Really?" I know I'm not the best either, but let's at least be consistent. As a test I submitted a color version of a b&w that had gotten an EP earlier in the month to see what would happen. It did not get one. Really? Seems random to me. And I've sure noticed a lot of good pictures not getting one that normally would have. I'm with y'all. All the e-mails they are bombarding me with do NOT make me want to take a course. And being treated in a condescending manner makes me rethink things.
4/12/2013 7:26:08 AM
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For you Facebook members...
https://www.facebook.com/BetterPhoto.comOfficialPage?fref=ts
4/12/2013 7:49:59 AM
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Another one:
4/3..MT..The Golden Hour
4/12/2013 1:47:59 PM
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Tag! This EP issue reminds me of when I first started BP...took me a year to get my 1st! ...
4/12/2013 1:51:46 PM
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I've been on a long driving trip this week to Oklahoma City and when I returned this afternoon, there seems to be a lot going on in this thread. The one thing that I found strange is that I had a March entry (very, very early in the month) that got a March EP while I was gone. That image had been entered over 5 weeks. Still nothing in April.... I'm very confused about the March entry.
4/12/2013 4:30:35 PM
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I also just within the last few days got some March EP's. Very strange. On a side note.....sorry you had to come to OKC this week. Yucky weather we had!
4/12/2013 4:48:03 PM
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Thanks Tammy. I always enjoy my trips to OKC. I just wasn't expecting ice. I meet with my contacts at Hobby Lobby's Corp offices on Wednesday and they are always such a pleasure to see.
4/12/2013 5:30:24 PM
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April - No EFP's You know...some of us have said we could live without the contest having EFP's...but check this out. How will we feel entering a contest knowing that no one is even looking at them? Or just randomly? At least if we get EFP's a lot (when they are technically sounds etc) we know someone was looking at them. Right? I am all in favor of EFP's and being able to keep an eye on knowing someone is looking at them. No EFP's anymore (ever) means they can get away with no one there judging them properly. We know they are not being judged properly this very moment because EFP's are still in effect. Discontinue EFP's and who knows what they are doing down there.
4/12/2013 11:43:04 PM
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Weathered Spokes
April 2013
Elements of Design
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EP for April 2 - Weathered Spokes - Elements of Design.
4/13/2013 7:07:35 AM
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Opps went to March thread by mistake: OK, I have a question! A recent POTD at:
http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGallDetail.asp?photoID=13659864 Are my eyes off, or is this photo totally blurred? Is this a special technique I have not learned yet? Hope I am wrong, but this photo to me is not a POTD quality that I am used to seeing or trying to perfect! What do all of you think? THANKS...
(also, this is not against the photographer, just a question about the photo!)
4/13/2013 7:12:43 AM
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TAG!! Sometimes It' not good being at the end of the alphabet!!
4/13/2013 8:16:31 AM
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Nancyj, I would have to agree with you. As one who is very familiar with DDR, I have tried many different treatments on many different things including flowers. In my trained eye I'd say he was trying to attain a 3D look with a special filter and was not quite successful. Had it been my image, I'd have started with a more in focus image (the flowers themselves) and better smoothed the edges of the flower when I lassoed them. Interesting that he got and EP then Finalist and didn't even list his treatments. When my work looks this far off from it's original state I'd better say WHY underneath, and I do! The only spots in this entire photo that are in focus are; one spot on the top flower and then the little purple "Fairy Shoes" for pistols on the lower flower. Maybe this is what completely dazzled the judges??? I'm sure Joe is a fine photographer. I would say this is nice and it is pretty, Filled with color but not POTD quality. I have seen hundreds of new entries pass my screen since all of this started that would have topped 4/10's POTD but who am I to judge? Lol...At least somebody got one. HeeHee... I know a lot of photographers do not list their treatments under their images. It is their choice and option to not give away their "secrets" but I like to do this so others can learn from what I make if they like it. It's just another great way of sharing on BP as a family here. I'd have liked to have understood what he had in mind better to appreciate what he did. Maybe I missed something? -Laura :)
4/13/2013 8:56:17 AM
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Tag for me too as nothing for April...
4/13/2013 9:01:33 AM
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Nancy---that flower photo of the day image IS blurred. I use blurring for some effects but I don't personally care for it in this image. It would not be a photo of the day in my book.
4/13/2013 9:44:22 AM
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I miss the fun of the more frequent EPs, but I have to admit that it has loosened my grip a bit on the contest, in a good way. I fully expect that the last two images I posted, Employee Parking and All in a Day's Work, will NOT get EPs. But that's okay ... they speak to me, and maybe to no one else, but I find that expression just for the sake of expression is liberating ... Shame on me for placing too much emphasis on the contest until now. Not saying that I wouldn't like to succeed of course! My one EP so far this month was still most welcome! Good luck to all ... you guys are all very talented and a constant inspiration!
4/13/2013 10:16:56 AM
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My most recent EP was March 26. Whoopee (and tag, tag, tag, tag.....)
4/13/2013 11:31:32 AM
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I hope BP gets back to giving EP's with some kind of regularity so we can get back to reporting them in this thread :) Don't forget that Susan started a No EP Feedback thread where you can discuss your own images that are skipped and, hopefully, get some suggestions for improving them or, at the very least, suggestions that you simply resubmit them next month.
4/13/2013 11:32:41 AM
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Peggy - had to see what you were thinking about with Employee Parking and All in a Day's Work. You are truly amazing with the photos you capture from your smart phone. Both really unusual - but my favorite is All in a Days Work. I'm with you - following our passions and not worrying about the rewards can be truly freeing - with some great outcomes. Thanks for sharing.
4/13/2013 12:55:31 PM
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Thanks for looking and for your kind and thoughtful comments, Marcy!
4/13/2013 2:04:06 PM
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I've been in Rio (Brazil) for the last 10 days attending to my mother and have not had time to 'play around' BP as I usually do, but was surprised yesterday to find out that my 4/2 entry got an EP (kitchen 1760); so one EP for April. Tones of e-mails for courses as you all, I'm also turned off to register to any course (done 3 and that's it). Will stick around until my gallery expires in 2014.
For me, better than any course, would be to get BP's rationale for the grand prize.
4/13/2013 4:29:23 PM
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Reading that some of you guys are getting EP's for March just a few days ago blows me away! At the end of March when I received only one EP and folks were starting to post for April, as my usual routine here is to delete all my photos except for the one with an EP, I've done it this way for years, now I find out I should have left them up because every thing is turned upside down and nothing is running to schedule as it has for many years...somebody stop me!!! :-)
4/13/2013 10:09:35 PM
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@Joannie...the last ones I got for April were probably about a week ago. And there were only two. Certainly not a lot. LOL But, yeah, weirdness.
4/14/2013 1:03:54 AM
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Tammy means the last ones she got for March . . .
4/14/2013 5:56:22 AM
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Nothing for me in awhile, and I finally wrote a letter to BP although I don't expect much (if any) response. After so many emails about classes, I finally decided to email them.
4/14/2013 6:27:08 AM
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Jackie M. Sajewski
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I missed the first three days of April to enter but since the 4th I have entered now 9 images and not one has gotten and EP. I know some of you say they dont mean anything. I disagree to me they meant they were at least looked at. So now I have 9 images a few I thought should have received an EP's but nothing. I do find it discouraging. I'm left thinking are they looking at the contest photos? I'm just a hobby shooter but I dont want my photography to stink either. I liked that EP to kind of tell me I'm on track.
4/14/2013 6:47:34 AM
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I don't think anything has been looked at since the 3rd. A very few were reported for April 1, 2 and/or 3. I entered all three days, got one on the 2nd. That's my most recent one, Jackie.
4/14/2013 6:53:03 AM
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Thanks, Nikki! I indeed meant to say March. That's what I get for typing in the middle of the night! LOL I did get one on my April 1st and 2nd image. It's just silly. If they want to be more 'stringent' that's fine. Be consistent and have people judging that knows photography. I mean, that's how it should be and that's what would help us in our quest to grow and improve. But it will only help if the judging is consistent and has some rationale to it. Which at the moment I'm having trouble finding the rationale. And if they take notes from this thread......none of us may ever get one again! LOL
4/14/2013 7:39:28 AM
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Something is VERY WRONG, when even the professionals aren't getting EPs! To me that means there really isn't ANY judging going on!
4/14/2013 7:39:56 AM
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I have one EP for April 2nd, but haven't uploaded many photos this month. After checking out other galleries, knew something was up! Way too many emails about beginning courses... Hate the ads and pop ups!
I did join BP years ago when I got my 1st DSLR to take a How to Course. I also took a macro class that I was very disappointed in.
I have come a long way since then! I did not join for the EP's, Finalists, POTD, or contest wins!
The contests have been a real Joke! Have seen the same photo as mine in a different month be a winner when mine didn't even get a finalist...anyway
The best part of BP has been the Friendships and wonderful Inspirations!
My gallery expires April 21st. I don't want to renew if BP is going under and waste my time and money...
I have a fabulous gallery at Fine Art America where they have groups, contests, commenting, and it pays for itself with Sales! Check it out at sabrina-ryan.artistwebsites.com (no www)
Haven't decided what to do...If I don't renew, I will miss you all!
Thanks for all your kind comments on my photos!
Be well and happy, and don't let the EP's, Finalists, Winning photos bother you! Ignore and delete the course emails if they bother you.
Just get out and shoot, get inspiration where you can, and enjoy yourself in what you love to do!!
4/14/2013 7:41:52 AM
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I am as eager as anyone to see the EP's start up again, but the break doesn't really bother me and isn't unusual - they often take one - so I don't think you should read anything about the "worthiness" of your work into it.
4/14/2013 7:44:12 AM
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Will miss you and your artistry greatly, Sabrina, but I have another year for my Deluxe gallery, for which I cannot recoup my losses should I go, so may see you on FineArtAmerica next year if things don't change at BP. It is looking like a corporation that is getting ready to go out of business and trying to get it's customers to believe in "business as usual," but not really convincing us. I've been in the trenches when businesses went under, an this one has all the earmarks of one, and is the reason they are keeping up the company mantra that nothing has changed.
4/14/2013 9:00:12 AM
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Usually, when there are numerous notifications for Cheri's current thread in my Yahoo inbox, it means another round of EPs is popping up. "Finally!" I thought at noon, and checked out each of my April entries. Nada! lolllllllll But, the continuing discuss is still interesting.
4/14/2013 9:03:49 AM
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Thank you so much Nancy!
4/14/2013 9:21:43 AM
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I emailed BP the other day asking if there was still a contest going on here and if I needed to start looking for another place to put my deluxe website. They emailed back saying the contest was still going on without any changes and BP was doing great. There was no reason for concern. Really????
4/14/2013 10:36:31 AM
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What concerns me now --if they really don't see a difference, something is really wrong. We all know there is a difference and for them to continue with the same old line is insulting. Either that or no one is running BP. Nancy Marie is right, this has all the earmarks of serious trouble for BP. At least I haven't had the Enchilada email lately. :)
4/14/2013 11:13:20 AM
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"At least I haven't had the Enchilada email lately. :)" LOL. Patricia! I needed that laugh!
4/14/2013 11:35:20 AM
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This is a similar pattern to Redbubble threads a little over a year ago - after their functionality changes including reducing group host capabilities with no explanation and a lot of bugs they didn't acknowledge. BP has chosen the redbubble path with their response of business as usual - which we are not experiencing as Tammy says. The shift with redbubble was to membership of a younger t-shirt crowd. What BP wants is a course-taking membership. I get those emails. I guess they don't care about my deluxe website, they want me to register in courses. Could we ever have imagined that changing the EPs would alter membership with defections and upsets. It's really too bad as it was a great photo website. Marilyn
4/14/2013 4:30:31 PM
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Well, let's not hammer that last nail in their coffin just yet. They've been up and down before, and I suspect they will pull out of this one, too. If only they would change their business plan to include the word "communication" (not preceded by the word "no"), they wouldn't get themselves into this sort of predicament.
4/14/2013 4:38:45 PM
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Too bad they can't display an image of what's going on. You know, like........ "A Picture is Worth 1000 words." lollllllllllllllll
4/14/2013 4:50:50 PM
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LOLdogz
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Speaking of pictures with words, I love LOLCats when I'm not here at BP ;) Well, I discovered I had a LOLdogz in my files. The backwards reference seems appropriate, no?
4/14/2013 7:21:00 PM
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LOL!
4/14/2013 7:42:06 PM
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Just so it's easier to find when the time comes that some get EPs and you don't - but want to have some analysis on your ignored images... http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=35950 Mine in question was entered for the 4th, but as we aren't up to that date yet, but I wanted to be ready.
4/14/2013 8:34:49 PM
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Been away for awhile. Just submitting and logging off.. Still see that there is a EP issue like last month.. When was the last time an EP was given out to anyone? It seems like not receiving an EP is the new norm now.
4/14/2013 9:16:17 PM
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Tag. Like many of you, so far my entries this month on 7,8, and 14 have no EP
I sent an email this morning to customer service, but based on what some have shared I probably should expect no response.
4/15/2013 9:52:14 AM
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Is this weird or is it just me...? April 15th - New Arrivals = 705 images. If there are usually 10000-12000 entries per month, how does 705 turn into 10000? Is it that the number of entries includes 1000s of pictures that were already uploaded into members' galleries?
4/15/2013 10:41:18 AM
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Well, I suspect it's simply because they establish a given number that they'll show in that particular gallery. You know, last --- days, and cut it off at a certain point.
4/15/2013 10:50:44 AM
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Thanks, Mitch. There is much I've never really understood about various features at BP (or other sites, for that matter.)
4/15/2013 10:54:53 AM
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Kathy - you got my attention so I went to the Contest Tab and Recent Entries and there are 348 pages, with an average of 12 per page, so 4,176 would be the total. It's close to the regular half way mark if it's 10,000 and down a bit if it's 12,000.
4/15/2013 10:54:54 AM
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Such a Duh-Moment. I liked it better when I could follow EP links (I didn't realize (or had a brain glitch) that New Arrivals and Contest Entries weren't the same thing. I either need a lobotomy or a nap. Geeze! As Gilda Radnor used to say, "Never mind!"
4/15/2013 11:22:03 AM
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As of right now there are 4180 in the contest.
4/15/2013 11:47:52 AM
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Kathy W, you are funny! LOL I need a chuckle today! Thanks!!! Also, tag!
4/15/2013 11:49:28 AM
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Looks like the last EP for N&L was on 4/3. So only 3 days have been reviewed so far in Nature and Landscape.
4/15/2013 12:59:16 PM
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wow, with the news on the TV and Radio right now about Boston, and elsewhere... here we pick apart BP regarding their issues... makes me take a second look!
4/15/2013 2:50:57 PM
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I was just about to say what Nancy just said. We should count our blessings instead of EPs..(I guess)
4/15/2013 3:57:09 PM
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My thoughts and prayers go out to those in Boston today.
4/15/2013 4:35:00 PM
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My heart goes out to all with healing prayers and love! I am counting my blessings...
and here I sit at Disney World...
4/15/2013 4:40:53 PM
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I live in Boston, Massachusetts and all of us in the city are still in shock of what happened today.. Terror attacks have never happened before here until today.. Please say prayers for the victims of our beloved city of Boston, Massachusetts..
4/15/2013 6:09:18 PM
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Absolutely, Brian. I can only imagine the shock, dismay, and sadness that you all must be experiencing, as we do as we watch the news. Prayers are with all of you.
4/15/2013 6:19:19 PM
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So very sad and painful to hear about the attacks in Boston. Prayers and positive thoughts for all the affected people and their families. Hope the culprits are caught and brought to swift justice. UB.
4/15/2013 8:45:12 PM
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So sad that there are people throughout the world who have no regard for the gift of life. My heart goes out to the victims of the terrorist attack on Boston, who will be in my prayers this night and for many nights to come.
4/15/2013 9:01:28 PM
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A Spring Blossom
April 4, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Digital Darkroom
4/16/2013 4:51:15 AM
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Not a single EP this month.
4/16/2013 7:53:11 AM
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Just got an EP for a resub April 5...
4/16/2013 8:26:49 AM
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No EP, but I have only entered 2 for the month. Does anyone know of a place for a reasonable website. I am thinking about getting one and have no idea how to do it or where to look.
4/16/2013 2:49:37 PM
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Patricia, here's a couple: SmugMug and Zenfolio. Just Google them.
4/16/2013 5:46:18 PM
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Patricia, I'm a big fan of Flickr for photo sharing. Their lightbox and slideshow formats display images really nicely, and they have excellent and flexible privacy controls. Pro accounts are $25/year. Lots of interaction options too with Groups and such. No contest but many people get a lot of satisfaction by having their photos featured in Explore. Interacting is a bit harder than on BP because the member base is so huge, but it can be rewarding if you have time to put some effort into it. Regarding EPs, I have one so far for April, for 4/2. On the plus side, the remaining thumbnails display a bit larger in my gallery! :)
4/16/2013 5:58:16 PM
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Patricia, if you want to sell your photos, you can sell your photos on your website at Fine Art America for $30/year. They have more perks, too if you want to check it out, but I am keeping my BP membership, while joining FAA to sell my photos. I know a few BP members who show on BP and sell on other sites.
4/16/2013 6:10:10 PM
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I also joined FAA..Their websites are super looking. I'm impressed.
4/16/2013 6:35:06 PM
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I also have joined FAA recently. I really like having the option to sell photos. Right now I have a link on my deluxe BP gallery to my FAA website. If anyone wants to see how it works just go to my BP website www.chrisschlosserphotography.com then go to the gallery page and at the top of the page there is a link that says to purchase photos. Click on that and it takes you to the FAA site. So far I like the FAA site, but not as much as the "old" BP!
4/16/2013 6:53:27 PM
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QVB II
April 5, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Elements of Design
4/16/2013 7:33:03 PM
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Stellar, Usman!
4/16/2013 7:51:51 PM
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Thanks Nancy for your words of encouragement. Glad you liked it that much ;) UB.
4/17/2013 12:43:14 AM
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April 5 Elements of Design Let's see if I can get this link in right here. Dependent
4/17/2013 5:40:09 AM
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4/4..SKIPPED
4/5..SKIPPED...and it was even my birthday. That's just mean! LOL
4/17/2013 5:51:43 AM
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I gave up and posted my "Wattle" in Susan's thread for feedback on no EP images. This one I was sure would do well; it appears my choice of category wasn't the right one. This might make a terrific companion thread each month to Cheri's. http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=35950&catID=100
4/17/2013 6:42:59 AM
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Flooded Mission
A courtyard at Mission San Jose, San Antonio, Texas
with flood effect added, plus adjustments in CS5.
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4/5 Digital DarkroomEnjoying the EPs posted in this thread, folks.
And Happy Birthday, Carolyn!
4/17/2013 7:11:26 AM
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Finally got an EP!
4/17/2013 10:23:39 AM
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April 5th for Ethereal-Finally!
4/17/2013 10:38:23 AM
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Looks like they skipped April 1-5!
4/17/2013 10:41:47 AM
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April 1 - 5 I've gotten 4 EP's. For whatever they're worth.
4/17/2013 11:00:11 AM
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For Forum
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So far for April I have posted 18 images and finally got one EP for an image posted April 6th...
4/17/2013 11:08:16 AM
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How do post a photo on this thread?
4/17/2013 11:12:45 AM
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I have a question ...a friend of mine uploaded 4 images on the same day, so obviously not all 4 are in the contest....yet she got EP's for all 4. So does this mean that images don't have to be in the contest now to get an EP? Also the other day somebody else got a POTD that only has a deluxe website and no basic gallery, I have never seen that happen before?
4/17/2013 11:16:11 AM
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This morning I have my first for April 5th. I only entered on the 1st & 5th. The 1st was not that great a photo, it was more for fun. Have a great day everyone!!!
4/17/2013 11:39:51 AM
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Jill - that's weird about the non-entries getting EPs. As to the other - for the past month or so, I've been checking out that random EP link to see if the "free" accounts were getting them. For more than one name (a lot, in fact), the generic BP Home Page popped up when I clicked on a name I didn't recognize. It took me a while to figure out that the photographers did have the deluxe or pro accounts. Hmmmmm, maybe that's a pattern to analyze (probably not, though - too many deluxe members have added to the March/April thread.)
4/17/2013 11:54:11 AM
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You don't need to submit an image the same day it's uploaded.
4/17/2013 11:57:51 AM
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Martha - I thought Jill meant her friend got the EPs all at once, but you're probably correct. I try to upload a few, then will "Enter the contest from my own photos" link. The way I keep track is not to add the title until the day an image is entered (and to add the entry date in the description - along with the category.)
4/17/2013 12:01:41 PM
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I just got an EP for April 5 - the first one this month for me (in T&P, I think).
4/17/2013 12:11:38 PM
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April 5th EP-Ethereal
4/17/2013 12:47:19 PM
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April 5th EP-Ethereal
4/17/2013 12:48:17 PM
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April 5th EP-Ethereal
4/17/2013 12:53:11 PM
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Tried to attach photo, but all you see is the name of the photo-didn't work for me, as I did not see a box to put the photo ID into. In my defense, I am taking care of a toddler, 2 Frenchies, feeding everyone when I can, an trying to keep it quiet enough so my daughter (in labor) can get some sleep.-maybe try again tomorrow-yikes!
4/17/2013 1:06:23 PM
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Check your email, Marie. I sent you instructions a bit ago.
4/17/2013 1:19:58 PM
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April 5th-Ethereal
Category: Flowers
4/17/2013 1:24:04 PM
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SQUIRREL!
I feel distractable today - therefore SQUIRREL!
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WOW - I got one! Don't mean to sound surprised, but after having many, many passed over that were better than this one, I was surprised! I think I will do some re-submits next month and see what happens.4/4 Animals
4/17/2013 1:59:18 PM
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You don't have to have a "basic gallery" to enter, if you have a website that is all you need. How many of you have both?
4/17/2013 2:01:59 PM
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I have a basic and a Deluxe, but will be dropping the Deluxe next year, as it really doesn't do anything better than the Basic. I want to sell my photos, but not by paying over $100 extra a year just to do so.
4/17/2013 3:10:09 PM
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I have both, also..Was going to drop it this November, but then I had a weak moment when they had the half price sale, and renewed for another year. I may change my mind yet. More and more dissatisfied, like the rest of you.
4/17/2013 3:13:19 PM
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I have both too. I do like both of them.
4/17/2013 3:50:24 PM
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So happy to see some EPs being reported on this thread! Yay! I didn't get one for the 5th (my second entry for April). It had some technical issue but the subject (Raven with the flower) was still a personal fav. I might post it in the othed thread for some feedback.
I'm also on FAA. Haven't been very active the past few months but it might be time to focus more energy there. I'm also getting more and more discouraged by these changes here. I don't feel like the contest results for March are gonna make things any better.Happy belated Carolyn and Nancy, all the best to your daughter and new family member :)
4/17/2013 6:24:57 PM
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Thank you, Susan- much appreciated!
4/17/2013 6:34:10 PM
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Had EP's pop up on the first two of my 10 entries for the month.
4/18/2013 3:54:32 AM
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EP's on the 1st, 4th and 5th.
4/18/2013 4:02:41 AM
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I'm on a roll! I have only one EP this month April 3! lol Ohh well, we still may get more...:-) jo ann c.
4/18/2013 6:21:16 AM
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Hmmmmmmmm - here's a dilemma... From the Contest Guidelines:
"Please, No "Advertising"
Photos that show logos, brand names, or trademarks are not allowed." I just entered 2 images of a restored Shell Gas Station. Should I not have bothered; how stringent is that rule under the circumstances of a historical site? Also, most of the Pros write of patterns, lines, shapes, colors as being design elements (both in nature or man-made.) In the contest, are only man-made designs considered valid for the EOD category?
4/18/2013 6:51:39 AM
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I posted a heart from the top of a Love's gas station and they skipped over that, even though it said nothing about Love's at all..Also my 2 birds sitting on top of their marquee.
4/18/2013 7:19:57 AM
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I'm starting to think what they're skipping over has more info for entry choices than what the EPd entries do. That is, if it's more than simply a "no time to judge" situation.
4/18/2013 7:31:17 AM
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Kathy - the contest categories specify for EoD any subject that emphasizes line, shape, etc. is appropriate. December's 1st place winner in EoD was of a leaf.
4/18/2013 7:41:03 AM
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That's what I always thought, but another member thought that's was the reason my "Wattle" didn't score an EP. I'm solidly going into an "Oh, well" mode.
4/18/2013 7:53:29 AM
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Welcome to my "oh well" world Kathy! :-)
4/18/2013 9:24:12 AM
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I think I will be joining the when my membership is up, I will be gone. I love so many people on this site, but....
I already am on Viewbug, FineArtAmerica & Redbubble. If any of you are on there, please find me. Also on facebook. Not for sure yet on my decision I have a few more months to decide though and see what happens here.ONE Ep this month.
4/18/2013 10:51:03 AM
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It seems to me that one member said that BP is just cutting back on employees and what's left cannot do all the EPs in one day. I would think that BP could not afford to cut back on employees; that they would judge like they used to do-not make it harder by changing the rules, resulting in a poor customer service policy and a lot of grumbling. Maybe they want to cut down on customers, too. If that is the result, then they have achieved it. Well, I have a game plan, too. No longer will I need a Deluxe Gallery. It hasn't done anything more for me than the Basic one. So I'll sell my photos on FAA, retain my membership and the Basic Betterpholio, and be better off than I am now. I guess that's what you call a positive outlook. Thank you BP!
4/18/2013 12:49:17 PM
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Jim responded with an explanation a short while ago on Susan's No EFP thread... http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=35950
4/18/2013 12:59:59 PM
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Didn't realize you're on RB too, Tammy - am following you now! Think I've got you covered on the other two already.
4/18/2013 5:37:49 PM
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Here is the response Jim left on the No EP Thread: BetterPhoto friends, Just in case you did not see my other posts, the EP is not gone. The Editor's Picks are still being rewarded for excellent entries. If there is a delay, it just means the judges are working hard on other stuff and will get back to it asap. We take great pride in that: * EVERY round is judged by a human being, a pro photographer.
* We work very hard, look at EVERY photo. * We do not take the photographer's name into account (when the contestant watermarks the photo, we of course can't control that.) * We look only for photographic excellence, beauty, inspiration, uniqueness... and the qualities of truly amazing photography. I greatly appreciate the love and energy that many of you have expressed in this thread and elsewhere. Your support means so much to me. Sincerely,
Jim P.S. P.S. I want to reiterate that the EPs are still being given out. :-) Help me spread the word.
4/18/2013 5:47:44 PM
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Glad I can back today to do more reading. I just bookmarked FAA and will take a look at it. No EP's though. I only entered two because I'm absolutely disgusted. I may not be as good a photographer as some here, but I'm not that bad either. Things seem to have gotten to irregular. Oh, we'll......tag!
4/18/2013 6:05:09 PM
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I just came across this message from Jim in the March No EP Thread. It has a little more info in it: I posting the following on another thread but, because it's important that the truth be expressed, I want to copy it in this thread too. But before I do, let me just give Susan a pat on the back for starting this thread. The original intent was to get and give feedback. I LOVE that! I always wish members did that more on every photo. We don't have time to offer constructive critique on each photo so it's AWESOME when members do so for each other. I highly recommend that you keep this up on these monthly threads and also do so on each photo. If you're concerned about judges reading it, don't be... the judges don't have time to read all the comments. And they prefer to stay out of it so a) they don't get erroneously influenced and, b) they don't see the member's name... so they can continue to judge without any bias. Keep the focus on constructive critique... *******
HERE'S MY NOTE ABOUT THE CONTEST
******* BetterPhoto friends, The EP is not gone. Please help me correct the misinformation that is being spread on this topic. The Editor's Picks are still being rewarded for excellent entries. EVERY round is judged by a human being, a pro photographer. We take great pride in that: we tell the truth, work very hard, look at EVERY photo, and do not take the photographer's name into account (when the contestant watermarks the photo, we of course can't control that.) We look only for photographic excellence, beauty, inspiration, uniqueness... and the qualities of truly amazing photography. I greatly appreciate the love and energy that many of you have expressed in this thread and elsewhere. Your support means so much to me. The reason why we don't answer often is that we have a lot of work to do. Yes, we promote our products; that is what any company does. We serve our clients with love and in truth, AND we work to get more clients so we can continue to grow. That's business. While we read everything, we don't often respond on these threads because we need to focus on work. And it's hard to want to respond when people are unfairly mean. We have a standard here of being constructive, supportive and helpful. Just like you would with a photographer, give thoughtful, encouraging, helpful feedback and live up to the standard of being constructive. If you would not say it about a fellow member or his/her photo, do not say it about me or BetterPhoto. Now I want to reiterate that: a) The EPs are still being given out. b) I love you all :-) c) I send you my blessings and look forward to seeing you continue to enjoy photography and pushing yourself to be your very best in your art. d) I really appreciate the comments and energy of helpfulness that I continually witness in most members. You know who you are, and I thank you from the deepest depths of my heart. If the forums and in your general conversation about BetterPhoto, please help me express what is true. Don't allow yourself to get sucked into meanness or mini-flaming. Just ignore it if someone lashes out in frustration... that is nothing, especially when compared to the amazing energy of camaraderie, friendly encouragement, and family that shine here at BetterPhoto. Sincerely,
Jim --------- My response here is a big Thank You to Jim for acknowledging and addressing many of the issues we've been speculating on or discussing. Also, I appreciate the shout-out but honestly, I think credit goes to all of the members, many of whom "stepped out of the shadows," to express their thoughts & experiences and offer support to one another. Personally, I was and am pretty thrilled about it. I think everyone is aware that EPs are still being awarded, however, there has been a fairly drastic change from before. At this point it's not clear if that is due to more stringent judging criteria, a software/system change, or a change in BPs schedule. Thoughts?
4/18/2013 6:18:06 PM
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Susan S., I would love an answer to the last statement in your comments above. "At this point it's not clear if that is due to more stringent judging criteria, a software/system change, or a change in BPs schedule." It seems to me that Jim's note wasn't very specific concerning EPs. Yes, they are being given out, but isn't the question we need answered by BP the very statement you offered? Kerry Drager mentioned under the March EPs that there were some major changes coming. Well? I may stay with BP for the clubs I'm in. They're great! Folks on the forum are, too! But the contest.........
4/18/2013 7:08:48 PM
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No EFPs for me so far but as far as I can tell N&L is still on the 5th of April for EFP's.
4/19/2013 6:48:21 AM
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April 7th Catch-All Bowl of Sunshine
4/20/2013 7:40:00 AM
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Black & Blue Berries for Forum
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I am so relieved that Jim took the time to answer some of our questions and to know he does care :-) I actually got my 2nd EP this month and am happy because I particularly liked the image enough to print it and hang it on my wall :-)
4/20/2013 11:42:52 AM
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Hope the number 13 really isn't unlucky! lol I have 13 EP's for the month of March...there is about a 2 week "no EP'S" in March on my site?? But...again, lucky to get what I got I guess! :-) jo ann c.
4/20/2013 12:24:20 PM
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Since last night I got an EFP for April 6th Elements of Design. That's two for three this month. I don't enter every day. Hope they start moving now for all of us. You sure find out that sometimes you don't miss something until it's gone... or an old song lyric...how can I miss you if you don't go away. :) I feel like I did when I first joined BP in 2008... really excited about getting an EFP. Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!
4/20/2013 1:09:31 PM
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Since last night I got an EFP for April 6th Elements of Design. That's two for three this month. I don't enter every day. Hope they start moving now for all of us. You sure find out that sometimes you don't miss something until it's gone... or an old song lyric...how can I miss you if you don't go away. :) I feel like I did when I first joined BP in 2008... really excited about getting an EFP. Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!
4/20/2013 1:10:00 PM
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Sorry tried to attach the photo. PS: I joined BP in April 2007 but didn't have the nerve to upload a photo for the contest until 2008.
4/20/2013 1:18:05 PM
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Finally got a EFP. It was for Aril 6th! http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGallDetailMember.asp?photoID=13793604&catID=&camID=&zulu=&contestCatID= Green Tree Boa Not sure the link will work if anyone cares to view!
4/20/2013 4:07:28 PM
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Bless you, kalena - for not giving your image a cutesy name, so I could tell ahead of time what the subject is. A deeply-grounded phobia about snakes prevents me from opening your link. : > }}}
4/20/2013 4:43:13 PM
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Kathy W., I don't like snakes either. He was behind glass when I took this shot. :-)
4/20/2013 5:09:01 PM
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Ohhh Kalena, I'm like Kathy, but I did look at it and there is great clarity and presentation. I must say your gallery is awesome too! jo ann c.
4/20/2013 5:17:19 PM
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Thanks, Jo Ann. I stopped over at you gallery. Wow! You have beautiful photos there!
4/20/2013 5:33:55 PM
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Great snake shot through the glass with sharpness on the head! I'm not afraid of snakes-this one doesn't bother me. I saw a black water moccasin in AL 2 years ago that crossed a path in front of me from the swamp, on his tail and made a B-line for some shrubs where a lot of little birds were hiding. I was out with two little dogs, and would not let them anywhere near those bushes for about 5 days. Now THAT was scary!
4/20/2013 6:22:11 PM
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I beat a water moccasin half to death with a shovel last summer. It was in with the dog, so I smacked it with the shovel and then picked it up and tossed it over the fence. It was gone the next morning, so I guess I didn't kill it, but I bet he had one heck of a headache.
4/20/2013 7:00:40 PM
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I admire your bravery, Carolyn! Only 2 snakes make me scared: The water moccasin and the Western Rattle snake. I won't be around the water moccasin any more-don't think I'll be in AL or the South again, but Rattle snakes live around and close to the house in the Spring and Summer-have to be on the lookout in the sagebrush, so there are some places I will not venture in those seasons.
4/20/2013 7:23:19 PM
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We always get them in the spring. And other sorts of snakes, too. If they're in the dog's yard, they all meet their maker.
4/21/2013 2:46:12 AM
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Speaking of snakes on a family vacation in north Arkansas, we were hiking and I stopped to take a photo of some water droplets on some leaves of a bush. The wind was blowing a bit and moved some leaves on the ground. A baby cottonmouth was laying less than a foot from my hiking boot clad foot. My husband saw him as suggested I slowly move my foot. I did get my photo, but during the rest of my vacation, my eyes were constantly watching the ground on every hiking trail we were on! I'm glad it was chilly that morning and he was just trying to stay warm. :-o
4/21/2013 5:52:32 AM
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The ones that scare me are the coral snakes. They aren't so big and easy to spot. Scary things, they are!
4/21/2013 6:53:00 AM
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My husband corrected me - the snake was a copperhead! But, to me a snake is a snake and I don't like them! I'll take a photo as long s they are behind glass! Carolyn, my grandma killed a coral snake once. She used her trusty garden hoe!
4/21/2013 9:11:44 AM
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Boy, business is slow when we are talking about snakes! :-)
4/21/2013 9:46:06 AM
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Leading Lines
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Really busy month for me, so I haven't submitted many entries. Leading Lines
Entered: 4/7/2013
Category: Elements of Design
4/21/2013 1:54:05 PM
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Nice shot, Pat H!
4/21/2013 2:11:38 PM
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4/8..Landscape..Fabulous Reflecting Pool
4/21/2013 6:28:53 PM
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My third (of eight entries) for the month. Not much fun, this. April 8 Catch-All
Chocolate Mocha Torte
4/21/2013 6:51:46 PM
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April 9th: Mysteries - Flowers
4/21/2013 8:23:23 PM
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Opera through the Arch
April 6, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Catch-All Elevator Doors ...
April 7, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Elements of Design Ravens and the Moon
April 8, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Monthly Theme Who put the boulders up here?
April 9, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Nature & Landscapes
4/21/2013 8:30:14 PM
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The Breakfast Club
For the photogroup101's "80s Movie Title" theme day.
Made with Canon 50D converted to infrared by LifePixelHappy Theme Day... :-)
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April 10th...
4/22/2013 9:30:28 AM
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Life Lines
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April 8-Life Lines
4/22/2013 3:13:15 PM
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I finally have one EP in April, but this is more important to me. And I want to share a special moment in my photo-life. The Detroit Historical Society selected a photo of mine to be part of a large interactive mural in our maritime museum. As my Mom and her Dad, my grandpa have been a part of Belle Isle history, it means much to me to join their ranks. The picture below shows the renovation of the museum (reopening next month) and was taken by one of the Society staff members. Not an Entry:
Dossin Great Lakes Museum
4/23/2013 11:32:36 AM
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Congrats on this big honor, Kathy. Much better than an EFP.
4/23/2013 11:58:10 AM
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Congratulations on this wonderful honor, Kathy!
4/23/2013 12:09:05 PM
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Woot Woot, for Kathy... :-)
4/23/2013 12:11:27 PM
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Thanks, you all. I was pretty stunned when they sent an email saying they found that image in my Flickr gallery. Now, seeing in being set up is stunning me all over again. I'll probably have an excitement-stroke on opening day! lolll and, yep - it's better than an EP.
4/23/2013 12:21:33 PM
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Thanks, you all. I was pretty stunned when they sent an email saying they found that image in my Flickr gallery. Now, seeing in being set up is stunning me all over again. I'll probably have an excitement-stroke on opening day! lolll and, yep - it's better than an EP.
4/23/2013 12:21:33 PM
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Congratulations Kathy! Like I said...just keep on keeping on gang! This prooves it to Kathy! jo ann c.
4/23/2013 12:25:30 PM
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Wow...WTG Kathy...what an honor and great testament to your work!
4/23/2013 12:41:37 PM
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Wonderful, Kathy. A big hooray for you!
4/23/2013 12:45:27 PM
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WTG, Kathy!!! HUGE congratulations! What a great honor to have your photo displayed in the museum of your hometown. Well deserved.
4/23/2013 1:11:31 PM
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Yikes - I didn't mean to hijack this thread, but thank you all.
4/23/2013 1:22:28 PM
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Yikes - I didn't mean to hijack this thread, but thank you all.
4/23/2013 1:22:29 PM
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A big Congratulations Kathy, way to go. I think things like this are meant for this page--no hijacking here just congratulations!!!
4/23/2013 2:04:03 PM
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WTG, Kathy!
4/23/2013 2:12:19 PM
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WTG! Soak it in. Its the fuel for inspiration.
4/23/2013 2:25:23 PM
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Congratulations, Kathy. What a thrill!
4/23/2013 2:32:15 PM
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WTG Kathy "Michigan"! :-) We can all say "we knew you when"! :-)
4/23/2013 3:06:46 PM
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Congrats Kathy..... yes better than an EP..... actually better than a gold win!
4/23/2013 3:49:14 PM
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You betcha, Danny (it's sure making up for my spot at BP over the past couple of months! lollllllll) Joannie, we'll have to have you swing East and then over to Niagara on your next trip up to Michigan. Stay a few months.
4/23/2013 4:01:51 PM
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How wonderful Kathy! Congratulations!
4/23/2013 5:11:45 PM
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Big congrats, Kathy! What an honor; that must be so thrilling! WTG!!!
4/23/2013 6:36:14 PM
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Congratulations Kathy! A huge and well deserved honor!
4/23/2013 6:50:10 PM
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Huge congrats on a very well deserved honor, Kathy!! Sooooo extremely cool!!!
4/23/2013 8:43:31 PM
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Wow, that is great news, something to be proud off, Kathy. CONGRATZ on this wonderful honor!!! UB.
4/23/2013 8:49:48 PM
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Congratulations, again, on the honor bestowed on you. It is a great feeling to be a part of a family history, contributing to the memories you hold dear. You should be very proud, as I am sure you family is.
4/23/2013 9:00:56 PM
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I'd take this honor over an EP any day, Kathy!! Huge congrats to you!!! You deserve it!
4/24/2013 6:05:26 AM
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Simplicity
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My first EP since April 1st4/11 Flowers Congratulations Kathy!!!
4/24/2013 8:08:36 AM
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Congrats, Kathy. WTG!
4/24/2013 8:13:41 AM
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I thought this had probably been skipped, but the EP showed up today. April 10, category People Lessons in Love
4/24/2013 10:22:47 AM
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That's a wonderful honor Kathy! Congrats! Nice to see Jim responded about the EPs (finally), but we all know something is not the same. I have seen so many truly beautiful photos go by with no EP. That's what I don't understand. Even with tightening it up so that there are fewer given out does not excuse so many of the best being overlooked.
4/24/2013 5:05:02 PM
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April 11 Monthly Theme
Christa
4/24/2013 7:25:56 PM
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5 Budha Postures NO EP
April 10, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Travel & Place Ripples of Time
April 11, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Digital Darkroom
4/25/2013 2:49:00 AM
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i didnt enter until april 12th so here is to waiting to see if I get an EP. I leave for France Saturday so I will not be back on till sometime in May.. so wanted to go ahead and wish everyone good luck
4/25/2013 11:28:31 AM
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I only have four entries for April so far and have gotten EPs on one from the 8th and one from the 11th. These are two of my favorite images so I would really be disappointed if they had overlooked them. The other two have not been judged yet. "Waiting for the Train" and
"Blowing a Kiss" Good luck to all!!!
4/25/2013 11:40:31 AM
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I have 3 for April...2nd, 3rd and 8th..
Didn't expect any for 9th through 14th, so my next chance won't be til the 15th.
The only 2 I was disappointed over were the 4th and 5th..(sunset and lion), but I guess I'll live.
4/25/2013 11:49:20 AM
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4/12 Pink Gerbera - Flowers 4 entries up to the 12th with EPs on 3.
4/25/2013 5:45:42 PM
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GAZANIA
April 12, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Flowers
4/25/2013 8:57:11 PM
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4/12 and 4/13 overnight
4/26/2013 4:15:16 AM
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4/14, 4/13 and 4/11 EPs.
4/26/2013 4:23:11 AM
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mamas hands
no matter how old you get there is nothing as soothing as mamas hands.
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yeah!!!!!!!!!!!! got my first EP in over a month... whew!!! didnt think I would ever get another one. LOL
4/26/2013 4:40:16 AM
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Got one earlier on "A Real Barn". But, this was one of my favorites: Catch-All:
April 13 – Rolls Tire
4/26/2013 4:55:36 AM
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Searching
Entered: 4/12/2013
Category: People The Wedding Party
Entered: 4/14/2013
Category: People
4/26/2013 6:51:43 AM
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Kathy, your Rolls Tire is coming out as "Wattle."
4/26/2013 7:39:45 AM
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Fresh as a Daisy
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4/15 Flowers
4/26/2013 8:00:17 AM
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Oops. Apparently, I can no longer remember 3 out 3 things to change! lolll Thanks for the heads-up, Nancy. Catch-All:
April 13 – Rolls Tire
4/26/2013 8:21:34 AM
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Fog Covers The Lake
4/26/2013 9:27:30 AM
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Fog Covers The Lake
Above Lake Tahoe, looking West. F22.0-1/20-EV-1.0, ISO 125. HDR from four exposures, processed in NIK.
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Fog Covers The Lake
4/26/2013 9:36:02 AM
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Absolutely "nada" this month! :-(
4/26/2013 9:57:05 AM
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Two EPs popped up ... All in a Day's Work - Catch-All 4/13
Light and Dark - EoD - 4/14 I was sure these two would not get EPs, proving once again ... I am clueless! :)
4/26/2013 10:23:09 AM
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All in a Day's Work
Looking out my (dirty!) window at work, downtown Houston, Texas.
The foreground files are on a credenza by the window.
The far files are a reflection, and the view is beyond that.
Taken with Samsung Galaxy SII smart phone.
Black and white conversion in Topaz Black & White Effects 2.
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Two EPs popped up ...All in a Day's Work - Catch-All 4/13
Light and Dark - EoD - 4/14 I was sure these two would not get EPs, proving once again ... I am clueless! :)
4/26/2013 10:24:08 AM
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Light and Dark
Blinds in mid-day sun.
Topaz DeNoise, black and white conversion in CS5.
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Hmmm ... it would only let me attach one photo ... trying to attach the second ...
4/26/2013 10:26:06 AM
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Wake up
I think the title says it all.
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two EPs this month I am on a roll LOL...
4/26/2013 1:02:35 PM
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Coneflower
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4/17 Flowers4/18 Details and Macro
Softly Resting
4/26/2013 5:13:31 PM
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4/17..Landscape..A Fine Reflection
4/19.. Animals..Longneck
4/26/2013 5:20:50 PM
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Well I'm batting three out of three for April so I'm very pleased about that. One more to go from my April entries. :-))
4/26/2013 5:39:27 PM
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4/14 skipped
15 and 16 no entries
4/17 Tulip Trio - Flowers
4/18 In the Pink - Flowers
4/26/2013 5:57:37 PM
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Here is my April EP'S .....jo ann c. 4-3
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4-17 Who knows, we may get some more between now and the end of the month..good luck everybody.. jo ann c.
4/26/2013 6:16:58 PM
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Fog Creeping In
F22.0-45-EV-0.5, ISO 400. HDR from 9 exposures. PP in CR-CS6; OnOne, and Topaz. On the rocks of the East Shore of Lake Tahoe, NV.
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4/16-Foggy With A Touch Of Clouds
4/17-The Photorapher's Eye-seen here
4/18-Fog Creeping In
4/26/2013 6:54:08 PM
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Hmm, I got that wrong- oh well, it is listed.
4/26/2013 7:00:40 PM
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skip, skip, skip
4/18 People
4/26/2013 7:20:54 PM
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4/20..EOD..Sky High Bamboo
4/27/2013 9:27:18 AM
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Little Señorita
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Canyon Blues
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I have entered only a few but 2 EP'sLittle Señorita and canyon Blues.
4/27/2013 10:06:41 AM
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Patricia, two wonderful, well deserved images, the baby is adorable and the other is awesome, love it! jo ann c.
4/27/2013 10:16:30 AM
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Granbob and Addison
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I got one for my most favoritist granddaughter in whole wide world!!!!
4/27/2013 4:04:53 PM
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First Light
F22, 1/60, 18-55mm vr nikkor @55mm, iso100, window light (sb600 bounce flash fill)Flowers: April 22, 2013
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4/20 Tulip Trio II -Flowers
4/21 skipped
4/22 First Light - Flowers
4/27/2013 6:13:33 PM
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Bandon Shadow Lines-B-W
Six exposures: F22.0-125-EV-0.67, ISO 500. Conversion to B/W in CS6; Additional PP with OnOne brushes.
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Brandon Shadow Lines
4/28/2013 1:57:18 AM
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Angel Wings
The first Iris from my garden! F7.1, 1/200, 18-55mm vr nikkor @40mm, iso400, natural window light w/sb600 bounce fill flash.
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4/23 skipped :(
4/24 Angel Wings
4/28/2013 11:50:48 AM
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4/24..DD..Baby, Look At That Moon
I really wanted this one..makes up for all the skipped ones...well, not really all of them, but some of them. LOL
4/28/2013 1:28:45 PM
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Carolyn, that's an awesome image! Love the title - made me smile.
4/28/2013 1:54:36 PM
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4/19 Flowers
skip, skip, skip, skip
4/24 AnimalsI'm going to have to stop taking pictures in order to have time to resubmit all the skips in March and April LOL
4/28/2013 2:02:06 PM
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I guess this one was skipped. It happens to be a personal favorite. Guess not so for the Editor. lol Carolyn....your Lion pic....why on earth would that not have gotten one?
4/28/2013 2:36:48 PM
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March Finalists are out... hope you all have silver badges in your galleries. Congratulations to all who have won one and all the best in the next round!!!
4/28/2013 3:25:31 PM
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Here's the link... http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGall2.asp?catID=56356 Congratulations to those who are in the list - like Sharon says... Good Luck in the next round.
4/28/2013 3:52:35 PM
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Well, flip. I tried to attach a pic up there, but it didn't work. lol Seems I got one March finalist. Congrats to everyone who did.
4/28/2013 3:58:35 PM
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Finalist ..hope you all get some...I always move any I get to the front of my gallery, hope y'all do too, then I don't have to go through ALL to see yours!
:-)I got 3: Beauty In Living Color! (#13732641)
Look what April Showers will bring! (#13758958)
Callaway Gardens Reflections ... (#13785359) Good luck! jo ann c.
4/28/2013 4:15:24 PM
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Great idea, Jo Ann!!! It's so time consuming searching through each one. Hope everyone does the same. Will go take a look at yours now.
4/28/2013 4:26:43 PM
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3 finalists for me.
4/28/2013 5:05:01 PM
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1 for me :)
4/28/2013 5:36:50 PM
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One for me, and I'm thrilled!
4/28/2013 5:41:45 PM
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Just checked Nancy Marie and she has 4! Reckon we can quit worrying about EP's and start just looking for Finalist, and Gold winners, huh? :- 0 p.s. again...please move all your winners to the front and we can comment on all when we go to your gallery..
4/28/2013 5:53:22 PM
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Congratulations to all finalists and good luck. O for me last month.
4/28/2013 8:40:40 PM
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4/26..Macro..Car Wash 2
4/29/2013 9:34:43 AM
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Is this new?: I have noticed that several finalists for last month (February) have shown up in the current (March) results as finalists again. If this is part of the new changes, I really like this idea! Who among us, me included, think we were overlooked for a gold badge for our finalists of past months?
4/29/2013 7:01:24 PM
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Here's the Link for the March 2013 Winners. Congratulations to you all. I don't know how to move all my Finalists and Winners to the front. Then again, for me, that's barely an issue. Nancy Marie, I wonder if the Finalists from February are resubmitting.
4/29/2013 8:10:14 PM
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Duh! http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGall2.asp?catID=56356
4/29/2013 8:21:53 PM
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Out of Place
April 13, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Elements of Design April 14, 15 and 16 got skipped. Angelic
April 17, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Flowers Seats-a-Plenty
April 18, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Catch-All April 19 got skipped LOOKING
April 20, 2013 ~ ~ ~ People April 21, 22, and 23 got skipped The other side of Yarra
April 24, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Travel & Place April 25 got skipped Malika Parbat
April 26, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Nature & Landscapes
4/29/2013 9:55:01 PM
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Melissa Picone
member since: 6/9/2007
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The Banjo Man
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Just the one right now. http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGallDetail.asp?photoID=13827256
4/30/2013 3:20:46 AM
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Cotten Boll
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Working Man
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Under The Sea
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Help----I am thoroughly confused about categories at this point. I am posting 3 photos--which category would they go in? Thanks!!
4/30/2013 8:27:03 AM
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Southern Maryland Charm (rework)
Rework of a barn at Friendship Farm Park, Nanjemoy, MD on a foggy morning. F5.6, 1/20, 18-55mm VR lens @18mm, iso100.Catch All: April 26, 2013
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4/25 no entry
4/26 Southern Maryland Charm (rework) - Catch All
4/30/2013 6:23:32 PM
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Glowing With The Sun
F22.0-30-EV0.67, ISO 50, tripod. Rainy, cold morning in the tulip fields. Edited resubmission of 2012, photo includes NIK Glamour Glow filter.
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4/25-Glowing With The Sun
5/1/2013 8:57:08 AM
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4/27..Landscape..Quiet! Sunset In Progress
5/1/2013 9:09:52 AM
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Really Frilly II
An opened tulip bloom. F11, 1/60, 18-55mm vr nikkor @40mm, iso100, natural light.Flowers: April 27, 2013
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4/27 Rilly Frilly II - Flowers
5/1/2013 9:32:26 AM
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Blue Bonnets
4/28/15
FlowersMy only EP for this whole month! Only one EP last month! Completely discouraging!
5/2/2013 11:16:41 AM
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Melissa Picone
member since: 6/9/2007
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I received another EP for the April. That makes two out of the 9 photos that I entered. Arctic Fox
4/23/13
Animals http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGallDetailMember.asp?photoID=13823333&catID=&camID=&zulu=&contestCatID=
5/2/2013 11:25:03 AM
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I am on the same wave length as Joannie, in that I am discouraged by the low number of EPs in April. This change by BP seems to have changed the nature of the organization for me...oh well... I've entered today afresh for the Month of May and wonderful Spring flowers.
5/2/2013 12:13:50 PM
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I'm with you, Joannie and Marilyn. Try as I might to enjoy my own photography just for the sake of expression, I am finding the contest depressing. Apparently the judges/editors find my photography only about half as good as it was a couple of months ago ... :(
5/2/2013 12:29:17 PM
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Melissa Picone
member since: 6/9/2007
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2 more EP's. Now 4 out of the 9.
5/3/2013 3:36:27 AM
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Melissa Picone
member since: 6/9/2007
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Excitement of Opening Day
My 5-year-old nephew Max very excited after his first game of T-ball on opening day.
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2 more EP's. Now 4 out of the 9.
5/3/2013 3:39:07 AM
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April 27 ------ skipped. A Mother's Love.
April 28, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Monthly Theme An Autumn’s Sunrise
April 29, 2013 ~ ~ ~ Nature & Landscapes
5/3/2013 4:13:20 AM
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Yay! An EP! Flowers 4/30
5/3/2013 6:51:14 AM
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8 EPs out of 29 entries. I agree, there has been a drastic change.
5/3/2013 7:20:39 AM
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Crap! None for me the last 3 days. I had 2 of them I thought should get one.
So that's a grand total of 9 for the month. Missed one day, so that's 9 of 29. Not so happy with that total, but I do like the ones they did pick.
5/3/2013 7:29:03 AM
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Jason
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Jason
Entered: 4/28/2013
Category: People
5/5/2013 8:19:41 AM
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Here's May people..:)yay... http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=35965
5/5/2013 5:15:32 PM
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