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Lisa Doyle
 

Digital pictures print dark


Hi,
I use a cannon G2, and work with photoshop...I have a hp photosmart 1215...The problem I have is when I print my photos they come out much darker on the paper than they show on my computer screen...I also use the HP priemium plus paper...This makes it hard to print as it may take 5 prints to get the look I need....Any advice would be a great help !!!!!
Thanks..........


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December 29, 2002

 

doug Nelson
  Sounds as if your scanner is way out of calibration. Go to Start/Control Panel and look for Adobe Gamma. Follow the procedure they give you. It will bring it a lot closer.


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January 08, 2003

 

Lisa Doyle
  Doug,
I do not use a scanner to download my photos...I put my digital card in the printer it's self...Is the scanner you mean a part of the printer options???? I tried but did not see Adobe Gamma at the contol panel....Let me know and I can try again, Thank You for your advice and time.........
Lisa


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January 08, 2003

 

doug Nelson
  Sorry to confuse. My fault here. Looks as if the MONITOR may be out of calibration. I don't trust the card-into-the-printer option.
Bypassing a good imaging software may be false economy. Adobe Gamma comes with the imaging programs like Elements and Photoshop. Get the inexpensive Elements imaging program. My apologies for botching the reply to your question and for waiting weeks to correct it.


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January 27, 2003

 

Lisa Doyle
  Hi Doug

I thank you for your time on this...I can not belive it but I did find the Adobe Gamma, I chg the setting in PS7 but then the photo does not just open, I get a window Embedded Profile Mismatch do you know if this something that happens with the Adobe Gamma...I also chg the Control Panel to Adobe Gamma, doing this I do not get the message...I am trying to enter an art show and I have some B&W I wanted just so and when ya see one thing on the screen and another comes out of the printer it is not good....I may put the photos on floppy and go to a CVS, I was told the printers they use are the best you can get (neaver heard that before but I will try) And I will keep on trying with the settings on my computer, I realy wish they where right..Do you think I need to chg both the control settings and PS7 to the Adobe Gamme ??? Again THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP ON THIS !!!!
Lisa


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January 27, 2003

 

doug Nelson
  I've been bogged down myself exactly where you are. Adobe Gamma is meant to bring the monitor into a baseline generally correct setting. If you go through their little brightness and contrast drill, it should be OK on the monitor end. Gamma only is for the monitor.
I wonder what color space your camera outputs to? I'd bet it's sRGB, an HP-Microsoft cooperative effort to standardize color for the web. I THINK printers are pretty much set for sRGB, anyway.
Is the mismatch message coming with black-and-whites? Isn't there a way to tell it to use the existing color space? I'll go to my computer once I get home and dig into this for you.
I think we can fix this. You have the best of digital cameras in that range, PS7, and no doubt a very good printer.
In the meantime, find out for me what format your G2 outputs (raw, JPEG?) and what color space (Adobe 98, sRGB) the images are in out of the camera.


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January 28, 2003

 

Lisa Doyle
  When I got the message I was in PS7 under Edit and Color settings and chg the working spaces (it happen to B&W and Color photos)....Yes, G2 outputs at JPEG and the photos are at sRGB...The printer is a hp photosmart 1215, I think maybe the middle of the line....Now when I found the Gamma setting in the Start and Programs there was no drill, I will check for this agin....What I did and what I found is : Start...Control Pannel...Apperance and themes...Settings...Advance...Color Management...Add...This is where I found adod6522 (which have properties - Generic Monitor Adobe 1998rgb D65 wp 2.2 gamma) This is what I thought I was looking for, maybe this is not the Gamma I need ??? No Drill when I add this....


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January 28, 2003

 

doug Nelson
  Here's where I got my information when I was starting out: http://www.sphoto.com/techinfo/wdtech.html Steve Hoffman's web page is greatly expanded and inproved since I used it last. I suggest you print out his 24 pages of tech tips and keep it in your digital darkroom.
I have PS 7, but Windows 98, so what I see is a little different. I get to the screens by a little different route, and the color space descriptions are a little different, but its basically the same. Since everything you shot with the G2 so far is in JPEG mode, and in the sRGB color space, that should be your working space. It seems you found Adobe 98 RGB, which is the most popular working space for those of us who use film scanners or download TIFs or raw images from high-end digital cameras. BTW, your camera may shoot in raw mode and you may want to look into that later.
For now, change your working space to sRGB. Now everything will agree, including your printer. sRGB is an HP creation, anyway, so your printer software will like that.
You were getting that disagreement message because the sRGB that your camera outputs is different from the working space you had set.


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January 29, 2003

 

Lisa Doyle
  Ahh yes, this does make since now.........My camera does shoot in Raw but I have not tried that yet, I have only been at this for a couple of months, but when I do now I know the settings, Thanks !!!!!! I will go to the site and get the info you suggested...Doug I want to thank you for your help with all this, I have learned alot...I will let ya know after I work with the site what I come up with.......
Lisa


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