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Don C. Ridgeway
 

B&W print error


Hope I'm in the right place to post this. I have a Epson RX630 printer, when I ty to print black and white images, they come out with a slight magenta tinge. I have tried to eliminate it through PS "levels" as per Lesson 17 without success. Can anyone help please. Thanks

Don


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May 02, 2006

 

Pat Worster
  when you go into your printer set up click on advanced options and then try black ink only. Maybe that will fix it. Pat


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May 03, 2006

 

Don C. Ridgeway
  Thanks Pat, I'll give it a try.

Don


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May 03, 2006

 

Don C. Ridgeway
  Unfortunately it didn't work Pat. In advanced I only have a Gray scale option, which I selected, but the print came out the same. Thanks anyway.

Don


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May 04, 2006

 

Paul Tobeck
  It's too bad, but the black ink only option isn't available in all epson printers. The only way to get a true neutral b&w print is to use a black ink only print option, upgrade to R2400 which comes with grey inks(big $$) or to convert a printer to greyscale inks. You'll waste a ton of ink and paper trying to eliminate the casts. Here's a couple of options.

First, you can live with the fact that your printer is going to give you some kind of color cast in your B&W prints, BUT you control which way it leans by using duotones, tritones or quadtones. You can duplicate the look of Sepia, Selenium and Platinum prints using this technique. (I prefer Platinum myself) Just do a google search on this and you'll find tons of tutorials online covering these subjects. Some people even have prerecorded actions that'll do it for you.

Now, if you want to print letter size true black and whites on a budget, MIS Associates has a kit called B&W EZ Inks available for several inexpensive Epson Printers, like the C86. It replaces the standard CMYK set with 3 shades of grey and black, and doesn't require any special software. It works really well and gives you a true neutral print on almost any kind of paper. A full set of inks runs $55 and the C86 printer runs under a $100, You can check it out here
http://www.inksupply.com/utez.cfm

Hope this helped.
Paul


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May 04, 2006

 

Don C. Ridgeway
  Thanks Paul, I'll check it all out.

Don


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May 04, 2006

 

John P. Sandstedt
  Don -

Although I use a Canon i9900, I've noticed a very occasional cast when one of the cartridges is running low. Believe it or not, when I print B&W, it's NOT with just black ink and I think your printer works the same way.

Check out your ink supply first.

Also, I've noticed that if I've scanned a print for a "B&W setting" I don't necessarily get good results. The things I've read say scan for the color picture and then do the adjusting in your editing program.

Then try this - load your picture and go into Photoshop and go into Photoshop. If color, do the color removal thing. Then, try adjusting Contrast - if you have PE 4.0, for example, there are a bunch [Photoshop 7,0 doesn't have "a bunch"] of "auto fixes" you can try. Watch to see whether the B&W improves on screen. If it does, try printing and compare with the print on which you've noted the color cast.

This has worked for me.


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May 05, 2006

 

Don C. Ridgeway
  Hi John, thanks for replying.
Thanks for the tip on "low ink". My black is getting very low, so I'll try that and see what happens. I have tried to do teh colour removal thing in PS, but it didn't work, also tried the contrast etc to no avail. I have PS ver 7 so no bunch of fixes. I'll let you know the results.
Thanks again
Don


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May 07, 2006

 

A C
  The printer at the school lab I use has been printing black and whites with a green tinge --- yuck!

To fix it they print from Photoshop and click Print with Preview instead of just Print. On the screen that pops up there is an option to color manage by letting Photoshop pick the colors, letting the printer color do it, or by doing no color management.

They had me let Photoshop do it and it worked for me. If you can find that option ... try it.


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May 07, 2006

 

Don C. Ridgeway
  Thanks Cherylann, I'll give it a shot, nothing else has worked so far, although I spoke to Epsom today, and they said B&W prints are made from the colors, the grey that is, and therefore a "slight" magenta cast is unavoidable, at which I vented my anger, as their advertising here in Australia says it's a color and B&W printer.
Thanks for your help

Don


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May 08, 2006

 

A C
  I have one more possible solution!!! I printed an image on a color printer the other day that was supposed to be black and white with some red text on top. The image came out with the slight magenta cast and it looked terrible. An employee at the school lab told me to print in CMYK and add an extra adjustment layer to desaturate the image.

So even though the image was already black and white, I added a hue/saturation adjustment layer on top of the image and completely desaturated the image. The image looked a little off on screen but it printed out beautifully. I don't understand why it didn't print out right before because, as I said, the image was already black and white.

One reason I may have had the magenta cast is that the printer adds other colors to get "super" black. I guess I forced it to not print super black when I desaturated it.


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May 09, 2006

 

Don C. Ridgeway
  Thanks Cherylann, I'll give that a try, and thanks again for your input.

Don


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May 09, 2006

 
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