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Pete H
 

My Mind the Camera


This is not a question (hope no one minds), but rather a little food for thought.
I read and re-read so many questions about “Are my pics good?” “Am I good enough to shoot pro?” Let’s get one item out of the way right off. A pro is paid..amateurs are usually not. There is not a question of quality here.
Fact one: Very few photographers make over $100,000.yr. Those that do, generally are shooting what & where they are told! I do not write this to dissuade anyone from seeking a career in photography, rather; to enlighten many to the fact that making a living in photography is NOT easy, and rarely does the “high” of shooting continue very long.
So this now begs the question, do I want to be a pro photog?
I am personally acquainted with a photog who shoots regularly for National Geographic.
ALL..I mean ALL the photos that make it to publication are of incredible beauty and high asthetic value..Real “oooh & Ahhh” photos. Anyone who believes his photos are a product of pure technical knowledge, raise your hand. LOL
His expense account is staggering! The number of shots he does in a day are equally staggering! He may shoot 500 in one day with 2 that will make it to print!
Now; I have seen photos on BP that are equally good. Why are these not in publication?
Yes; technical knowledge is of great value, but it is NOT an end all. If I could equip many here with Hasselblads, a dizzying array of lenses, a pro lab that travels with you, airfare to the remotest parts of our planet, I bet many of us would produce award winning shots.
The old adage holds true: “It is not what you know, but WHO you know!” I’ll leave that statement at face value.
Next; “are my pics good enough?”..or are they just “good?”
This begs the question, good enough for what? Further; the question leads yet to another. (“What is a good photo?” ) This question is answered more subjectively than objectively.
The short answer? It makes YOU happy! It feeds your soul. It completes the circuit from conception in your mind, to finger, to capture, and ultimately, back to your eye.
Sure, the rule of thirds or ninths, sunny 16th etc are all (rules) that can be taught and learned by most, yet understanding these basic concepts does not a photographer make.
In strictly my opinion, a great photo needs to encapsulate more than one thing. I feel it should tell a story, evoke a emotional response, cause your viewer to ponder and pause, enter the viewers mind with ease. Morso; a great photo should arouse more senses than just sight. Smell, touch and hear etc….Is that possible? You bet it is.

I have seen, and so have you, great photography done with old brownies, P&S cheapies etc. I’ve never purchased a camera with great photos already on the roll or in the CF card! LOL Is this not the best thing about this art? We start with nothing! Our cameras are just light buckets, asking us to distribute that light as we see fit. Personally, I am NOT a fan of Van Gogh. Does that mean he is not a great artist? Does it mean he is a great artist? Who says? Many of these (artists) went crazy or died flat broke. Hmm?

OK..so NIKE foot wear loves a shot you did and paid you $20,000. Can you shoot it again? Are you now a great photographer?

Gear: I see so many arguments about this camera being better than that camera.
This one is easy. I love to play golf and I must admit, I am a pretty good golfer. Tiger Woods, on his worst day, and with a set of K-Mart clubs, could beat me easily.

So; why are my photos not right? What is wrong with my exposure? Which camera will give me the best shots? Is this a good composition? What makes a good subject?
Any; and I mean ANY technical hurdle we have in photography can be overcome with money and equipment. A great photo can NOT be bought prior to being shot.,,and prior to being shot, it is not in the camera..it is in your mind.
I’m glad I started in photography many yrs ago..I had really lousy cameras from a quality and performance point, but the photos I shot yrs ago, are still some of my favorites. They may not hang in a famous museum, but I like them. J

I hope to write a part II to this. Where, how and when do I know to press that shutter release? To shoot or not to shoot, that is the question. J

May your light be pure,

Pete


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October 14, 2005

 

Kitty Cross
  Pete

That's the most down-to-earth sensible thing I've read on this site. I want to be just like you when I grow up (grin)

You hit the nail on the head particularily about the Nat.Geog. guys.
Well done.

cheers
Kit


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October 15, 2005

 

Kitty Cross
  and a particularily fine photographic eye I might add.....nice violin. Excellent gallery.

You see the light..


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October 15, 2005

 

Michelle Ross
  Yep Pete you summed this all up perfectly ... I struggled at one time with the "Why are my Photos not winning" syndrome. .. but then it finally boiled down to asking myself. . . Do I like these photos? and most of the time the answer was yes. .. do I like these same photos today . .. some I do some are okay . .. some I can't believe I ever took . . .I get bored very easily which makes it difficult for me to photograph the same things over and over LOL . .. but now I've kind of shifted my talent to portrait work . . . I'm usually my own worse critic and ponder with every shoot where to take them and hoping they wil please my client. . . so far so good but I know my day is coming when someone says.. . "I don't like them" . .. but whenever you are dealing with something as subjective as photography it's always going to be such an opinion . . . I work with 4-H kids and they get to exhibit some of their "work" at our County Fair . . . some have gotten discouraged with their red ribbons . .. I finally had to tell them and I reinforce this every year. . . that a judge thought that on THAT ONE DAY . . a different judge might give a blue or even a purple. . but what is most important is that THEY LIKED the photo enough to share it with someone. .. and that they listen to what the judge tells them and see if they agree with how he/she would have made it better. . . if they don't and still like it the way it is then in their mind it should be a winner. . .Many Many Many of mine I have like simply just for me and that's all that matters to me . ..


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October 15, 2005

 

Joyce S. Bowley
  Pete,

Nicely said. Photography requires being both an artist and technician. I could go on, but I would just be repeating what you've said. Thanks.

Joyce


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October 15, 2005

 

Sharon Day
  Very interesting discourse. Sometimes I think if a person has to ask if their photography is "any good" they already know the answer whether it be good or not so good. When I see those kinds of questions and I visit a gallery I usually have an opinion immediately. I wish when I see galleries that could be improved I could say, "You need to improve in this and this area." On the occasions I get it right it's not accidental, but I can't really verbalize what makes a photo worth viewing for more than a few seconds.


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October 15, 2005

 

Denise Christopher
  Pete,
Please reprint your comments and hand them out at every school and camera shop you can find.
I attended a 'famous' photo school and overheard so many people say 'if I buy his equipment I can shoot like him, right? Yes, a technical education is a given, but my favorite prof said the best teacher in the world is a case of film and a large trash can.


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October 15, 2005

 

Nicole Kessel
  Well said, Pete!

...Tiger Woods... Kmart golf clubs... LOL!! Looking forward to part II.


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October 15, 2005

 

Pete H
  Thanks to all who read and responded.
I think often, we need to elaborate on this art, to the point that some may even take offense..and believe me, some of (MY) photos offend me..not technically, but rather "why did I even click the shutter on that one!?" LOL

I looked at everyone's gallery who responded here..You all have some great shots, a clean eye, and I found shots in everyone's gallery that you shot from within your soul and heart.
You "felt" the shot before you tripped the shutter. You didn't have to look to know you captured something great!

I will start on part two as soon as possible. Right now I'm still trying to get Tiger to take me on! LOL

May your light be pure,

Pete


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October 15, 2005

 

Craig Paulsen
  they say in heaven that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I see that light of my many different tunnels everday and people are smiling at the end of every one

don't try to master light, become one with it


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October 16, 2005

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  Yoda?


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October 16, 2005

 
- Bob Cournoyer

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  Try not. Do, or do not, there is no try...:-)


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- Gregory LaGrange

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  I recognize that as Vodka.


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October 17, 2005

 

Robyn Gwilt
  Pete you are so on the money - but I guess the reason why we all are such BP fans - is that EVERYONE craves a bit of attention and the odd positive stroke (hell sometime even a harsh crit will do). Somehow having friends say your pix are stunning, or you have a good 'eye', is great... but they're not photography freaks - so having 'peers' pass a comment or opinion is somehow more credible (am I making sense), but ... then again, if the Joe Soaps out there do think our pix are great, isn't that what its all about - when someone looks at a pic and say "Wow, I love that" - its instinct, they're not pulling it apart technically, they're looking at something thats giving them that intangible 'good feeling' - so thanks for all that - and may our shutter fingers never grow crooked!! :)


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October 17, 2005

 
- Carolyn M. Fletcher

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  What a great, well thought out opinion! Pete, you spoke to us all here. I know a few people who shoot "for" the contest or stock or whatever and I'll look at their shot and wonder why anyone would want to shoot that. I think you should shoot what you love and love what you shoot and to heck with what anyone else thinks!


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October 17, 2005

 
- Bob Cournoyer

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  Well, if my shutter finger ever does grow crooked, I'll just add in the comments that my palm was placed infront of the lens for artistic reasons....:-)
Bob


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October 17, 2005

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  Would that require another contest category?


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October 17, 2005

 

Pete H
  You are all welcome..and I appreciate your well received comments.
My mom always said "if you have nothing good to say, then say nothing."

Personally; I will critique someone's photo if, and only if they really want a critique..and even then, it is only an opinion.


As promised, I will write part II as soon as I find some time....what, where and when to squeeze off that shot is a difficult subject, and once again it will delve into some soul searching for those of us who seek truth.
"You want the truth?..You can't handle the truth!" LOL

May your light be pure,

Pete


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  So it's Yoda after some Vodka?


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October 17, 2005

 

Brenda M. Wolfensberger
  Great words Pete! I'm all for shooting from the heart. My pics may not win any awards and they certainly won't put my kids through college but they do make me smile. If they bring a smile to someone else's face that's cool too.
Happy shooting everyone!


Pete, any luck with Tiger yet? :)


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October 17, 2005

 
- Sherry Stricklin Boles

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  Very interesting commentary, Pete...excellent points! I look forward to Part 2.


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October 19, 2005

 

Angela K. Harter
  looking forward to part 2 also! you have reminded my why I started taking pictures in the first place....to capture that special moment that will mean so much forever! thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!


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October 19, 2005

 

Susan Patton
  Once again right on the money with your words of wisdom. (I'm still on that break, but from shooting, not reading.) Thanks for reminding me why I love this hobby.


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October 19, 2005

 

Barbara Helgason
  Very very well said Pete, thank you and I look forward to part 2!


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October 19, 2005

 

Bob Cammarata
  Pete,
You surfaced some excellent points pertaining to someone getting published by one of the "majors" and
your comments are indeed valid.
Those seeking this achievement as their ultimate goal have to realize that they are a small fish in a very large pond. Their work will be competing with the best of the best...those photographers who are already established or have the resources to travel to distant lands and have access to the best equipment available.

Although, many of the posts here to this forum inquiring..."Am I good enough?", refer to those contemplating starting local portrait shops or selling their prints. To those photographers, I say YES!
If your stuff is good and you can market yourself to your target client base, there is no reason why you can't get sales.
The general public is indeed demanding but not quite as fussy as a photo-editor at a major magazine.

(P.S....I have never aspired to play golf with Tiger Woods. It might have been fun to fish in a tournament against Roland Martin though.) ;)


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October 19, 2005

 

Pete H
  Hahahhha..Thanks Bob...Good luck with Roland; Tiger is not taking my calls for some reason LOL
I'm with you though, show me some 6lb largemouth bass and I'm there. :)


Pete


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October 19, 2005

 

Debby A. Tabb
  HERE,HERE! WONDERFUL FOOD FOR THOUGHT!


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