Wetland
Uploaded: March 20, 2006
A Panorama of 4 pix I stiched together in Photoshop
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Robyn Gwilt March 20, 2006
Friendly or constructive - any comments on this panorama? #412237Dan C. March 20, 2006
Very nice. I like the sky and its reflection in the water. But especially the textures of the grasses.If you did this in photoshop with 4 files, you must be a genius. It's just my opinion, but the native pano feature in photoshop is crappy. You have no arcing across the 4 pics which is good. Did you use this using only the native feature or a plugin that helps photoshop with panos?
Regards,
-Dan
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Robyn Gwilt March 20, 2006
Dan, I love the genius part LOL, no, I had a few marks and tried dodging and burning, then gave up and used a bit of cloning! No plug-ins. By the way this was hand held, no tripod.... does the genius apply to that as well. Actually most of the other pix were pretty crappy, with lots of burnt out sky, so thanks you made my day :) #2553377Susan Jane Allen March 20, 2006
Well, haven't YOU become the photoshop girl! I once printed out the instructions for using the photostitch, and it came to ten pages. That was enough for me to realize that I don't presently have the patience to learn how to do it! And now I'm discouraged with Dan's comment---yikes! #2553385Robyn Gwilt March 20, 2006
LOL Susan, it took me about 10 minutes - maybe I just got lucky with this one! I'm using a freebie CS2, which is about to expire, and you just select the files for photo stitching, and then fiddle a bit with the 'seams'. It wasn't difficult. Not sure though whether its worth the price difference between PSElements 4 (also using a freebit) and CS2. I'm getting comfortable with Elements and find CS2 a bit daunting. Your PS skills are also pretty impressive!! Dan your gallery is quite - I'm chuffed at your comments :) #2553401Robyn Gwilt March 20, 2006
LOL Susan, it took me about 10 minutes - maybe I just got lucky with this one! I'm using a freebie CS2, which is about to expire, and you just select the files for photo stitching, and then fiddle a bit with the 'seams'. It wasn't difficult. Not sure though whether its worth the price difference between PSElements 4 (also using a freebit) and CS2. I'm getting comfortable with Elements and find CS2 a bit daunting. Your PS skills are also pretty impressive!! Dan your gallery is quite - I'm chuffed at your comments :) #2553402Susan Jane Allen March 20, 2006
Okay, you've consoled me. Maybe I'll give it a try. Worried I won't fix my tripod tightly enough and won't get the shots in completely on the same level. Am going out to shoot tomorrow, so maybe I'll try. Definitely time for bed! #2553455Robyn Gwilt March 20, 2006
"By the way this was hand held, no tripod" !! I just crossed my arm over my shoulder and balanced the camera, and then rotated slowly whilst clicking. Guess I got lucky :) (or maybe it is that genius that Dan mentioned LOL!) #2553467Dan C. March 20, 2006
No, no, no. A miscommunication. I did not mean to say the photoshop pano tools were hard. In fact, the're pretty easy. It's just that I have found the RESULTS to be cruddy in my opinion. I have stitched together 3 pics with much more arching than she has on 4.In my personal tests, the best I have found so far is realviz. It does a fantastic job normally. But at $580 I think the price is ludicrous, rediculous, and laughable to boot. To ask more for a photoshop plugin than photoshop costs itself only indicates to me the realviz people are smoking funny green stuff.
Regards,
-Dan
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Robyn Gwilt March 20, 2006
LOL Dan, yeah you're right the pano tools are not difficult, its just the whole damn photoshop that stumps me most of the time :) Thanks for the comments though. Sleep tight Susan! #2553489Dan C. March 20, 2006
I'm voting for a new forum named "Robyn's Word of the Day." "Chuffed", huh? I've been on this planet a long time and I have never heard a single person utter nor read a single thing that used that word. You must have been an english major or something. (And yes, I got my dusty ol' dictionary off the shelf and looked it up).Regards,
-Dan
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Susan Jane Allen March 20, 2006
This is South African lingo, Dan. She's got some real beauties! #2555333Robyn Gwilt March 21, 2006
Stick around Dan :) I didn't think it was an unusual word! My new word for you today - doff - like off with a d - this is word which is applied to someone who is being a bit 'thick/stupid', but without wanting to be too rude LOL. i.e. Paris Hilton is a real doffie - this needs no explaining I'm sure :) #2556090Robyn Gwilt March 23, 2006
Thanks Andree :) Ok another new word for today - Yislaaik! pronounced 'yis-like' used in an expression of surprise - Yislaaik, I'm chuffed at the positive comments on this pic! LOLDan C. March 23, 2006
Robyn,The author provided good advice about the tripod and manual modes. However, If you don't have a tripod with you, you can still shoot good panos if you are very carefull about the angle and rotation of your camera as you move. I find planting your feet toward the middle of the pano scene and doing all the rotating with the upper body works well.
As for manual mode, it's mandatory for good panos. But I'm big on manual mode anyway. I shoot everything in manual mode without exception. I honestly have not taken a single frame in shutter or aperture priority mode in months. I do so because to me the histogram is almost as important as the camera itself, and only when in manual mode can you tweak your histogam by a fractional change in shutter or aperture.
But there's one other very good reason I shoot in manual, and that's because I try to "shoot to the right." I have found that when there is room in the histogram (i.e., the histogram is not filled end to end) shooting to the right really does make a difference in quality. I'll not go into it here, but for anybody who reads this thread at a later date and wants to imporove their photography, there's a good article here:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/expose-right.shtml
I am going to disagree with the 1/2 picture overlap, tho. Most articles I've read seem to say 1/3. If you are using software like photoshop or realviz in the auto mode, they seem to need about a 1/3 overlap to function. However, if I am manually stitching, I go down to 1/4. The smaller overlaps are beneficial because if you can reduce a pano set from 4 pics to 3 pics it's one less seam you have to deal with.
P.s., Your "chuffed" is actually in the dictionary, but not Yislaaik. But it is regional slang. When googled, every reference to the word is regionalized to south africa. Neat word! #2566621
Robyn Gwilt March 23, 2006
Yislaaik Dan, that was a 'moerse' long answer!! ROFLMAO - very good though, and yes, I think he did mention 1/3, as I said I wasn't too sure though. Ok, now look up 'moer' or 'moerse' - to try to explain it... um... could be used when very angry and wanting to give someone a good klap (slap), "I'm going to moer you" (not very friendly!!), or to describe something thats awesomely big/confusing/amazing.... "That was a moerse hamburger", I'm moerse confused now, which F stop????, That was a moer-of good movie/concert!!! Its a very Afrikaans word, but very descriptive :)) #2566652Sign up for an interactive online photography course to get critiques on your photos.
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