The Tram Stop #2

© Peter R. Hammer

The Tram Stop #2

Steve R. Inman 10/28/2007 2:40:28 PM

Excellent! Did not see the previous version, but I like the effects! #772960

Peter R. Hammer 10/28/2007 3:25:14 PM

Thanks Steve. The earlier one is on the first page in my gallery as I only posted it a few days ago. #4995903

Alexis Yobbagy 10/28/2007 4:21:38 PM

I love this tram shot too!!! This city street scenes really turn my crank!!! #4996160

Holly Hitchcock 10/28/2007 4:32:53 PM

This is great, Peter. The motion vs. still is right on target. The B/W is perfect as well. #4996207

Peter R. Hammer 10/28/2007 4:33:50 PM

Thanks Alexis and Holly. #4996211

Mike Perez 10/28/2007 5:43:55 PM

Great motion blurs, Peter! I didn't see the previous version but this one is great. #4996439

Peter R. Hammer 10/28/2007 5:48:04 PM

Thanks Mike. #4996454

Lester A. Garcia 10/28/2007 6:14:12 PM

Hi Peter! This is a powerful image. The different expressions of the people on the bench is just terrific.
The old man with the cane compliments the image. GREAT! #4996534

Peter R. Hammer 10/28/2007 6:33:55 PM

Thanks Lester. #4996613

Amanda M. Freese 10/28/2007 11:10:12 PM

how did you actually make this one happen? Can a take a guess? high shutter speed, and a lower AV setting to catch just those on the bench? #4997483

Peter R. Hammer 10/28/2007 11:19:00 PM

Thanks for the comment Amanda. Actually quite the reverse. The shutter speed was 1/20sec to allow the people in the background to blur due to their motion while keeping the subjects on the bench sharp. I added a bit of help in that in post-processing. A very slow shutter speed would have achieved the result I was after but I couldn't then have maintained sharpness of the people. #4997509

Amanda M. Freese 10/28/2007 11:38:42 PM

oh darn, I knew that. I mixed it up. Thanks for the info.. Im trying to remember it and keep it straight.

:) #4997563

Amanda M. Freese 10/28/2007 11:40:54 PM

did you have to change the AV at all? or just the TV? Does it automatically keep those sitting still sharp even at a slow shutter speed? #4997573

Peter R. Hammer 10/28/2007 11:40:54 PM

It did sound like that Amanda :-) There's a lot to learn when you are starting out in photography. #4997574

Peter R. Hammer 10/28/2007 11:58:00 PM

Amanda I leave the camera on aperture priority and then adjust the aperture to get the shutter speed (A mode) I want although you could do that the other way around using shutter priority mode (S mode). (Note that Canon and a few other manufacturers like the use of Av and Tv which is bizarre and redundant as the v is pointless and S would be much better as S stands for shutter or speed while I presume T stands for time. Not to mention terms which I find quite confusing as a result of them not being logical.) Whether it keeps those sitting sharp depends on whether they move around at all and how much of the frame they fill. Even at 1/20sec you can get a fair bit of motion in a person. It really amounts to how many pixels they move in a given time. As long as the motion is less that a few pixels during the exposure they will appear sharp. Does that make sense to you? #4997617

Amanda M. Freese 10/29/2007 12:42:21 AM

I know what you're saying with the Canon TV and AV, that's exactly what makes it hard to remember. . . the terms aren't logical....

it does, I'll have to read over it a couple times, but so very helpful. . .

#4997770

Peter R. Hammer 10/29/2007 1:01:31 AM

Glad to help out Amanda. You could even do the arithmetic if you wanted to get some more exact values of shutter speed and motion. #4997824

Rhonda Burger 10/29/2007 8:20:01 AM

I totally agree with the Canon TV and AV comment.
I think the people in the background of the first picture look more like reflections...then of course in the 2nd they are moving.
I thought it was funny how you spoke of the first guy being alone...the second photo is still alone. Look at all their body language. No commaraderie there.
Nice image Peter. Rhonda #4999584

Amanda M. Freese 10/29/2007 11:20:00 AM

no arithmetic Peter, that's ok... :) it's enough to try to figure out the AV and TV. . . lol.. .

thank you though :) #5000133

Peter R. Hammer 10/29/2007 1:15:02 PM

Thanks Rhonda and Amanda. Rhonda the body language here is interesting even more so when you know that the guy at the end and the woman next to him are apparently a couple although you wouldn't guess that from the photo. #5000379

Susan M. Campbell 10/29/2007 6:38:13 PM

I like both versions. The first one had a feeling of loneliness as the man sat by himself waiting for the tram. I love the feeling of motion in this one. That man on the left had perfect timing and didn't even know it. Nice work!!! #5001794

Peter R. Hammer 10/29/2007 6:43:04 PM

Thanks Susan. I agree with you. The images are different and I can't decide which one is better. You have to be lucky sometimes when people get into the right position by themselves. #5001816

Lisa J. Boulden 11/3/2007 10:26:13 AM

Such a cool and wonderful scene!
Powerful!
--Lisa #5023216

Peter R. Hammer 11/3/2007 2:00:35 PM

Thanks Lisa. #5023890

Kay E. Mahoney 11/26/2007 4:14:23 PM

Congratulations on your finalist, Peter. #5128107

anonymous 11/26/2007 4:21:05 PM

Congratulations Peter on your finalist! B- #5128214

Peter R. Hammer 11/26/2007 4:45:10 PM

Thanks Kay and Barbara. #5128596

Steve M. Harrington 11/26/2007 5:07:49 PM

Good on you, Peter! :)
Steve #5128960

Peter R. Hammer 11/26/2007 5:33:16 PM

Thanks Steve. #5129407

Donna LaMattino Pagakis 11/26/2007 6:21:10 PM

Congratulations Peter, excellent work. Creative and cool sense of motion, great tones too! #5130262

Peter R. Hammer 11/26/2007 8:42:42 PM

Thanks Donna. #5132170

Erin Tyler 11/27/2007 6:18:07 AM

Congratulations on your finalist! #5134533

Dennis Flanagan 11/27/2007 11:50:36 AM

I think your choice of Black and White is what made this shot. In colour there would have been a lot of distractions. Now we are drawn to the people. Good job and Congratulations. #5136485

Peter R. Hammer 11/27/2007 12:41:28 PM

Thanks Erin and Dennis. #5136724

Esther Smith 11/27/2007 10:21:18 PM

Very creative! Congratulations on your Finalist Peter! #5140077

Peter R. Hammer 11/28/2007 3:32:54 AM

Thanks Esther. #5140890

Alexandra Hankova 12/1/2007 9:03:58 AM

Very interesting. I like the "movement" in the background. #5155920

Peter R. Hammer 12/1/2007 12:25:23 PM

Thanks Alexandra. #5156660

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Another shot of the tram stop. This old guy just happened to walk into the image. How does this compare to the previous version? (People)
Nikon D50 18-200mm VR lens

Uploaded on 10/28/2007 2:09:14 PM

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Camera: Nikon D50 Digital SLR Camera

BetterPhoto.com Photo Contest Finalist


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