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Denelli Ellison
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/1/2002
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How to Get the WHOLE Image in Large Print?


Help!!! Frustrated and Confused here on why when I go to print my image in an 8x10 or larger, it gets cropped. I am shooting in TIFF, so the image is fine ... it's just the sizing that I am having a problem with. I want to get the image in an 8x10 when I print it or the lab prints it. It automatically crops it, so I lose my desired image. What do I do? PLEASE HELP before I throw in the towel on digital! :)
Thanks from,
Completely Bewildered!


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7/30/2005 5:47:44 PM

 
John Rhodes
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/24/2005
  This has to do totally with relative proportions. Check to see the H/W ratio of your photos from your camera. For instance, my camera produces the highest-quality JPEG images as 12.8" by 17.067", or a ratio of 1:1.333. (Same ratio for RAW.) This relates to the size of the sensor in your camera. If I were to ask this to be printed as 8"x10" (a ratio of 1:1.25), part of the photo would be cropped to obtain the correct ratio. If this is a landscape, you could likely resize the photo (without cropping) to the correct proportion without distorting the look. If a portrait, you certainly would not be able to change the proportions.
VR
John


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7/30/2005 7:02:42 PM

 
Denelli Ellison
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/1/2002
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  Hey, John, thanks! I'll look into that.
And BTW ... Mom said I'd need math one day :S ( Rolls eyes! )
Seriously, Thank you! You're a big help!


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7/30/2005 7:17:33 PM

 
Michael H. Cothran   Your problem deals with side proportions. An 8x10 image has a side-to-side ratio of 1:1.25, or 2:2.5. Most consumer digital cameras and 35mm cameras yield images with a side-to-side ratio of 1:1.5, or 2:3. Without compressing your image, which may make it look a little weird, the only thing one can do to make different side ratios or proportions fit properly is to crop them.
FYI - the only sizes that will "fit" your camera's image proportions without any cropping would be those of 2:3 ratio - ie, 4x6, 5x7.5, 6x9, 8x12, etc.
Michael H. Cothran
www.mhcphoto.net


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7/30/2005 8:39:16 PM

 
Michael H. Cothran   PS - I forgot to inform you that it is possible to print your whole image onto an 8x10 sheet of paper by making the image smaller. For instance, you could print a 6x9 image size on your 8x10 paper. If you don't do your own printing, there are many custom labs that offer this service. It's your choice - a cropped full-bleed 8x10, or a full image shrunk to fit on 8x10.
Michael H. Cothran
www.mhcphoto.net


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7/30/2005 8:43:09 PM

 
David A. Bliss   To make it even more simple, it is a 2:3 ratio. Digital SLRs were designed to have the same ratio as 35mm. If you have a print made from a 35mm negative, or from a DSLR, it needs to be in a 2:3 equivalent, or it will be cropped. For example, 4x6, 8x12, 16x24. Always ask for your prints to be in one of these sizes (if you haven't cropped on your computer). Generally, I size my pictures to common print size before I take it to the lab for printing. That way, there is no explanation needed, they will just print the size the file is.


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7/30/2005 8:44:33 PM

 
Diane Dupuis
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/27/2003
  I crop it in PSE 3.0 to the size I'm going to print - that way I get to decide which part gets cut off! When shooting be sure to have a little extra on all the sides so you won't have to cut anything important off.


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7/31/2005 6:49:00 AM

 
Sharon L. Weeks
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/4/2002
  Another possibility - happened to me once. Check the settings for your printer. It may have been changed to print 8x10. Especially the 'canvas' size, not the picture. You never know!
S Weeks


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8/2/2005 2:51:45 PM

 
Denelli Ellison
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/1/2002
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  I'm still working on it to see the best result. Thank you all so much.
This has been a huge learning experience for me! Haven't given up yet thanks to all of you!

Denelli :)


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8/2/2005 3:51:48 PM

 
John Rhodes
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/24/2005
  Denelli, John again. I just noticed some of your photos are by the Nikon Coolpix 5700 which has an aspect ratio of 4:3 as compared to 3:2 ratio for the SLR.

4:3 translates to a 1.25:1 ratio. This is the same ratio as an 8x10 print, so no cropping should be necessary.

As one of the responders said; if your photo must be cropped, then you do the cropping yourself before sending in to the printer. Keep the control.
VR
John


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8/2/2005 4:37:46 PM

 
Denelli Ellison
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/1/2002
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  Thanks John :)


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8/2/2005 7:05:35 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Does NO ONE sell mattes and frames in a digital print size? BOY would that be a market to corner!!!! I'd much rather get a frame that would accomodate my image than the reverse, without getting one custom made! I think the film industry is controlling the frame companies! LOL! (joking!)


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8/2/2005 7:18:01 PM

 
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