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The Tram Stop #2


 
BetterPhoto.com Photo Contest Finalist   The Tram Stop #2
The Tram Stop #2
Another shot of the tram stop. This old guy just happened to walk into the image. How does this compare to the previous version? (People)
Nikon D50 18-200mm VR lens

Peter R. Hammer

 
 
 

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Excellent! Did not see the previous version, but I like the effects!


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October 28, 2007

 

Peter R. Hammer
  Thanks Steve. The earlier one is on the first page in my gallery as I only posted it a few days ago.


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October 28, 2007

 

Alexis Yobbagy
  I love this tram shot too!!! This city street scenes really turn my crank!!!


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October 28, 2007

 

Holly Hitchcock
  This is great, Peter. The motion vs. still is right on target. The B/W is perfect as well.


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October 28, 2007

 

Peter R. Hammer
  Thanks Alexis and Holly.


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October 28, 2007

 
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  Great motion blurs, Peter! I didn't see the previous version but this one is great.


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October 28, 2007

 

Peter R. Hammer
  Thanks Mike.


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October 28, 2007

 

Lester A. Garcia
  Hi Peter! This is a powerful image. The different expressions of the people on the bench is just terrific.
The old man with the cane compliments the image. GREAT!


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October 28, 2007

 

Peter R. Hammer
  Thanks Lester.


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October 28, 2007

 

Amanda M. Freese
  how did you actually make this one happen? Can a take a guess? high shutter speed, and a lower AV setting to catch just those on the bench?


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October 28, 2007

 

Peter R. Hammer
  Thanks for the comment Amanda. Actually quite the reverse. The shutter speed was 1/20sec to allow the people in the background to blur due to their motion while keeping the subjects on the bench sharp. I added a bit of help in that in post-processing. A very slow shutter speed would have achieved the result I was after but I couldn't then have maintained sharpness of the people.


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October 28, 2007

 

Amanda M. Freese
  oh darn, I knew that. I mixed it up. Thanks for the info.. Im trying to remember it and keep it straight.

:)


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October 28, 2007

 

Amanda M. Freese
  did you have to change the AV at all? or just the TV? Does it automatically keep those sitting still sharp even at a slow shutter speed?


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October 28, 2007

 

Peter R. Hammer
  It did sound like that Amanda :-) There's a lot to learn when you are starting out in photography.


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October 28, 2007

 

Peter R. Hammer
  Amanda I leave the camera on aperture priority and then adjust the aperture to get the shutter speed (A mode) I want although you could do that the other way around using shutter priority mode (S mode). (Note that Canon and a few other manufacturers like the use of Av and Tv which is bizarre and redundant as the v is pointless and S would be much better as S stands for shutter or speed while I presume T stands for time. Not to mention terms which I find quite confusing as a result of them not being logical.) Whether it keeps those sitting sharp depends on whether they move around at all and how much of the frame they fill. Even at 1/20sec you can get a fair bit of motion in a person. It really amounts to how many pixels they move in a given time. As long as the motion is less that a few pixels during the exposure they will appear sharp. Does that make sense to you?


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October 28, 2007

 

Amanda M. Freese
  I know what you're saying with the Canon TV and AV, that's exactly what makes it hard to remember. . . the terms aren't logical....

it does, I'll have to read over it a couple times, but so very helpful. . .


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October 29, 2007

 

Peter R. Hammer
  Glad to help out Amanda. You could even do the arithmetic if you wanted to get some more exact values of shutter speed and motion.


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October 29, 2007

 

Rhonda Burger
  I totally agree with the Canon TV and AV comment.
I think the people in the background of the first picture look more like reflections...then of course in the 2nd they are moving.
I thought it was funny how you spoke of the first guy being alone...the second photo is still alone. Look at all their body language. No commaraderie there.
Nice image Peter. Rhonda


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October 29, 2007

 

Amanda M. Freese
  no arithmetic Peter, that's ok... :) it's enough to try to figure out the AV and TV. . . lol.. .

thank you though :)


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October 29, 2007

 

Peter R. Hammer
  Thanks Rhonda and Amanda. Rhonda the body language here is interesting even more so when you know that the guy at the end and the woman next to him are apparently a couple although you wouldn't guess that from the photo.


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October 29, 2007

 

Susan M. Campbell
  I like both versions. The first one had a feeling of loneliness as the man sat by himself waiting for the tram. I love the feeling of motion in this one. That man on the left had perfect timing and didn't even know it. Nice work!!!


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October 29, 2007

 

Peter R. Hammer
  Thanks Susan. I agree with you. The images are different and I can't decide which one is better. You have to be lucky sometimes when people get into the right position by themselves.


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October 29, 2007

 
- Lisa J. Boulden

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  Such a cool and wonderful scene!
Powerful!
--Lisa


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November 03, 2007

 

Peter R. Hammer
  Thanks Lisa.


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November 03, 2007

 
- Kay E. Mahoney

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  Congratulations on your finalist, Peter.


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November 26, 2007

 

anonymous
  Congratulations Peter on your finalist! B-


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November 26, 2007

 

Peter R. Hammer
  Thanks Kay and Barbara.


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November 26, 2007

 

Steve M. Harrington
  Good on you, Peter! :)
Steve


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November 26, 2007

 

Peter R. Hammer
  Thanks Steve.


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November 26, 2007

 

Donna La Mattino Pagakis
  Congratulations Peter, excellent work. Creative and cool sense of motion, great tones too!


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November 26, 2007

 

Peter R. Hammer
  Thanks Donna.


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November 26, 2007

 

Erin Tyler
  Congratulations on your finalist!


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November 27, 2007

 
- Dennis Flanagan

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  I think your choice of Black and White is what made this shot. In colour there would have been a lot of distractions. Now we are drawn to the people. Good job and Congratulations.


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November 27, 2007

 

Peter R. Hammer
  Thanks Erin and Dennis.


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November 27, 2007

 

Esther Smith
  Very creative! Congratulations on your Finalist Peter!


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November 27, 2007

 

Peter R. Hammer
  Thanks Esther.


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November 28, 2007

 

Alexandra Hankova
  Very interesting. I like the "movement" in the background.


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December 01, 2007

 

Peter R. Hammer
  Thanks Alexandra.


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December 01, 2007

 
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