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Rhonda Kramer
 

Photoshop and Canon 10D help!


HI everyone,
I have recently purchased a Canone 10D digital camera and am having some trouble with colour casts. I have it set onto 5200K and AWB (auto white balance). I seem to be getting a cyan cast in shade.

1. How do I minimize casts in camera before downloading?

2. I have P/S 7.0 and would also like to know how to work the info palettes and Colour balance adjustments for removing colour casts etc.

3. With a 7 point focus system I find it quite annoying to shift my focus points when turning the camera around when trying to photography my kids quickly.

Any ideas greatly appreciated.

regards
Rhonda


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July 08, 2003

 

Jeff S. Kennedy
  1. Most digital cameras tend to have a magenta color cast and the 10D is no exception. I simply created an action using selective color to remove the extra magenta. Then I run a batch processing of that action on all my shots.

2. You can use color balance, selective color, levels, curves, etc.. As with anything in PS there are numerous ways to do the same thing. Find one that works for you. Make an action out of it and have fun.

3. I don't mess around with switching focus points. I usually just focus on what I want sharp, lock it and then recompose. It's faster than fiddling with focus points all the time.


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July 11, 2003

 

Rhonda Kramer
  Hi Jeff,

thanks for your reply. Just to elaborate a little...
Do you know if I can pause an action so you can take the correct amount of magenta out of each print. Or do U just say take 10% out for example.

I also find focus lock a bit of a pain because it switches from one to another. Am I doing it right. I hold shutter half way down and recompose.??

thanks again
Rhonda


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July 17, 2003

 

Jeff S. Kennedy
  "Do you know if I can pause an action so you can take the correct amount of magenta out of each print. Or do U just say take 10% out for example." - I think there is a way to pause it so you can adjust it there but if you set up the action so that it uses an adjustment layer to make the correction you can always go back to that layer and change the settings. You will probably find though that one action will fix your color casts without much fine tuning. You can always set up a separate action for different lighting conditions (ie. flash, shade, sunlight, etc.).

As for the focussing, yeah that's what I do. I just hold the shutter half way and recompose. There's also a focus lock button I think. But I've never done it that way.


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July 17, 2003

 

Michael Kaplan
  Jeff has done a good job at answering your questions. I just wanted to add what I do with the 7 focus points.

I personally almost always use the center point only. I aim it at what I want in focus, 1/2 press the shutter, quickly recompose and complete pressing the shutter down for the picture. You will get used to it and can do it quite fast. It will become second nature.
Good luck.
Michael Kaplan
Montreal, Canada
Canon EOS-10D
http://www.pbase.com/mkaplan


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July 18, 2003

 

Rhonda Kramer
  Thanks Michael, I also had a look at your website. Verynice. I don't shoot any wildlife myself however would like to know what lens you use (brand and zoom). The clarity is quite nice.

Thanks too Jeff, I will do a bit of reading on actions. I have tried a few but can't seem to figure out the best way to use them. i.e. if doing a batch, you may make the adjustments then save them all - but do you save over the original (or is this where the adj layer comes in)

I wish you guys lived around the corner.
cheers.


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July 18, 2003

 

Michael Kaplan
  First of all, thank you for the compliment. Glad you like some of my photos. I had a lot of fun taking them which I think is most important.

Second, it depends on which pictures you are talking about. The earliest of pictures were from my Fuji S602 with its built-in 6x zoom lens. Those are in the "Autumn in the Laurentian’s", "Creative Pictures", "My First Pics from Fuji" (obviously :)) and "Way Off Broadway's Cabaret 2003". "Way Off Broadway's Cabaret 1999" was actually still from my Canon Elura Video Camera.

The Canon EOS-10D First Pictures were mostly shot with a Canon 75-300mm USM III lens. That was a lens that I bought used with the camera just to have something till I decided what to spend my money on. Some may also have been with my 28-80 II which I still have not replaced (but trying).

The Becket Players Cabaret 2003 were taken with a Canon 50mm F1.8 II lens. The cheapest yet one of the best lenses Canon has available.

I since have bought a Sigma 15-30 and my biggie, a Canon 70-200 F2.8L IS. I have no pictures on the site from any of those... yet!

As far as not living around the corner, maybe not but isn't the internet wonderful for being able to ask these questions and receive help from all over the world.
Michael


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July 19, 2003

 

Terri McConnell
  Hi, Rhonda

These guys probably know a lot more than I do. I also recently got a 10D, and the salesman made a big point of telling me NOT to use the AWB. There are a few other white balance setting programed into the camera, and you can also create your own.

I use the center point focus, only, as well.

Terri M.


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July 19, 2003

 

Michael Kaplan
  Hi Terri,
FYI... If you shoot in RAW then white balance is one of those things easily adjustable. If you had the wrong setting; example had set it for incandescent instead of outdoor then you could make the change as if you had it correct all the time. WB is one of those adjustments even in the camera is done after the CMOS has captured the picture so if shooting in RAW, you can make that change as if you shot it correctly in the first place.

BTW, Auto White Balance AWB is excellent on the 10D. I use it most of the time and can still make the adjustments after if I need to. It is one less thing I have to worry about while out shooting.

It never hurts to be vigilant and shoot correctly in the first place but I shoot a lot of action stuff so I like to not have to think about too much if I don't have to.


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July 19, 2003

 

Jeff S. Kennedy
  Yeah, I think the auto WB works pretty good most of the time. I shood a lot of portraits and find that the open shade setting works for a lot of shots because it's almost like using a warming filter on your lens. And as you say if you shoot in RAW you can fine tune it later. When I do weddings I shoot the formals in RAW and the rest in jpeg to save flash card space.

In case you're interested here's my website too. www.imagesbyjeffkennedy.com


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July 29, 2003

 

Terri McConnell
  Jeff,
I think your website is great -- both the pictures and the design. Are those all digital images?
Terri


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July 29, 2003

 

Michael Kaplan
  Hey Jeff,
Beautiful shots. Well done.
I also like your site. Did you use any particulat program or did you do the HTML yourself?
Michael Kaplan


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July 29, 2003

 

Jeff S. Kennedy
  Terri, all the shots on the site were done before I went digital. Up until I got my 10D I shot film and scanned everything on a film scanner.

Michael, I used Front Page for the basic design. The images, background, and logos were designed/edited in Photoshop and then it was all put together in Front Page.


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July 29, 2003

 

Rhonda Kramer
  thankyou everyone for your input. I'll go and try a few different ones.

RK


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July 29, 2003

 

Terri McConnell
  I suppose this counts as another question, but to anyone who suggested shooting in RAW, can I ask what program you use to convert the files?


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August 05, 2003

 

Michael Kaplan
  That depends on what camera you have. For the 10D there is of course the Canon FVU that came with the camera. A lot of people use a preogram called BreezeBrowser ($50). It has a lot of capabilities but uses Canons SKD so it is no faster in processing changes you make.

The best seems to be Capture One LE ($100). They created their program from the ground up so any change you make you can see instantly. Feature wise, BB wins. Quality and speed, it's C1. If you search the net you will find plenty of comparisons especially if you search the photo groups.

Here are a few reviews to start you off:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0304/03041401captureonelitepreview.php
http://www.outbackphoto.com/artofraw/raw_06/essay.html
http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/software/c1-le.shtml
Michael Kaplan
Canon EOS-10D
http://www.pbase.com/mkaplan


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August 05, 2003

 
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