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Cindy A. Brown
 

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How do I ensure that when a customer orders say a 5X7 of an image that it will not be cropped. I want to be able to give them what they are seeing on the screen. Thanks!


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July 12, 2011

 

Lynn R. Powers
  If your camera has a 3/2 sensor, you are going to have to show the customer what a photo cropped to 5X7 looks like. If you are using Elements, Photoshop, or most of the other programs, it is relatively easy to do. After you have made the crop, this is the image you show the customer. You save the image with a label that indicates the crop size. Yesterday I changed a photo from the 3/2 format to a 16/9. But I did keep the original uncropped image also.
What it boils down to is you cannot make a 5x7 photo from a 3/2 sensor without cropping. With film, it was done in the lab that it was sent to be processed. At home with 35mm film, we used the cropping easels to check out the crop and did some raising and lowering of the enlarger's head too.
If we wanted an 8X12, we had to pay for a photo that was 11x14, which is the same size paper we had to use in the home darkroom. Some people swear that the cropped photos of 8x10, 5x7, etc., consisted of all the negative. They were and are wrong.


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July 12, 2011

 

Bruce A. Dart
  Cindy,
I has to do with proportions, and the industry is NOT consistent from one size to another. It used to depend on the film format of your camera (35mm, 645, 120, etc) and now it relates to the camera sensor. Most of the DSLR's work in a format close to 5x7 and 8x12 (an 8x10 crops 20% of the image area. 11x14 is totally different. The only real way to tell is to actually crop it (rename the file so you don't lose the original or save it somewhere else if you have not already done that). The full frame sensor cameras have a crop more nearly to the old 35mm. Until recently, labs did not crop the 35mm and it often was as Lynn described...pay for a larger print and cut it down or pay high custom prices.


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July 25, 2011

 

Lynn R. Powers
  Bruce- Not with film. They cropped all of the 35mm photos unless you paid extra for the full size. Actually the 11x14 crop is the least amount of crop percentage wise.

The choices were 3 1/2x5, 5x7,8x10,11x14,16x20 or 20x24.


Lynn


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July 25, 2011

 

Bruce A. Dart
  Lynn,
I shot for years with the 6x7 cm film in which the crops for 4x5, 8x10 and 16x20 were the same proportion as the film. Wallet size and 5x7 are close to the same and narrower in proportion than the former. Most of the professional labs in the 70's and 80's did not do much with 35mm and as such offered very little or no options in cropping. The services offered depended on the lab one sent things to and varied from lab to lab. The 4x6 and 8x12 options were much more recent. As always, it makes your life easier to know the proportions and what the lab will do with your images. Communication is ever the key to getting what you want.


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July 25, 2011

 

Lynn R. Powers
  That is why I print my own now. For a while with film I had my own darkroom and at other times I had access to one.
But there were times especially with color I had to go to a custom lab.

I also worked for a while in labs at the casinos in Vegas. We had quite an assortment to make for each customer. One place would have 6X6 cameras and the next would be 6X7. Unfortunately we weren't allowed to do our own work there.



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July 25, 2011

 

Bruce A. Dart
  I understand. Even now I sometimes go to canvas size and add borders in order to keep what I want in the frame!


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