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Tara R. Swartzendruber
 

I messed up - help!!


I totally messed up. For 8 photo sessions, my camera was set to jpeg norm instead of jpeg fine (I know, I should use RAW, but that's not the issue right now). Does anyone know how big of a print I can make from these...they are sized at 7.093"x4.72 at 300 dpi in photoshop. Does this mean I can only print to a 5x7? I feel so awful right now. I need to know what I can tell my clients. Thanks!


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November 09, 2010

 

Tara R. Swartzendruber
  ok, now I'm REALLY confused. My camera IS set to jpeg fine. What else could be wrong. My photos are are definitely not "right."


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November 09, 2010

 

Tara R. Swartzendruber
  well, ignore that last part.....I figured out that I also had the file size set to SMALL.
Oh, I'm just sick to my stomach. I really need to know what the quality is going to be...and for what size this is suitable. Thanks.


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November 09, 2010

 
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  Not a loss. It's better to make large prints with enough megapixels to start with so you don't have to interpolate up, you can make prints larger than it's native size. And I would suspect that newer cameras today with their better picture quality, handle interpolations to bigger sizes quite nicely relative to when my camera first came out.
And which program you use for up-sizing makes a difference also. Large advertisements or art displays are up-sized from a small originals all the time with top of the line programs like Phase One and Genuine Fractals.
I know that's not the sizes you were intending, but the point is I bet you can go much bigger than 5x7 than you think. Proof can be in the pudding if you try out some prints. It's common thought to up-size in small increments for best results. Print one out, see how it looks.
As far as what you tell your clients is the truth. Shot at the wrong size, if the prints aren't to your satisfaction or theirs, or just based on principal, offer a discount if they still want them. Or reshoot.
Businesses all over have to tell clients when they mess up, but don't loose them because they were upfront and attempted to do right afterward.


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November 09, 2010

 

Tara R. Swartzendruber
  well, that does make me feel a bit better.
SO, how does one "upsize" correctly? I have photoshop CS4. Can I use this to upsize....can you tell me how to do it?
Do you know how large I can reasonably expect to be able to print in good/saleable quality after upsizing?
AND, I assume that different photos (indoor vs. outdoor, ISO will be affected differently....is that correct?)
Thanks!!


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November 09, 2010

 

Randy A. Myers
  What size are you wanting to go to? A 8x10 should be no problem and I think an 11x14 should be alright. To upsize in CS4, open the image, go to image size, check the boxes marked "Constrain Proportions" and "Resample Image", then set the "Document Size" you want and the "Resolution", then from the drop down menu at the bottom, pick "Bicubic Smoother". Click "OK" and you're done.

The only reason ISO will affect the enlargement is if the ISO was set high and generated a lot of noise. If that's a problem, download "Noiseware" and run it on the image. Save that file and open it in CS4 and sharpen to your liking. I believe you will get a better print than you think. This was a good lesson in making sure of your settings before a shoot. I bet you will remember to check from now on. We have all done similar things, so you are not alone. I remember shooting some of the best cardinal shots I had ever been able to get only to discover that my film leader didn't catch. I've never had the same opportunity again.


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November 10, 2010

 

Tara R. Swartzendruber
  Thanks, Randy. Another person mentioned changing the percentage up in small increments....is there a difference in technique.

As far as size, I don't know yet. I would prefer not to tell my clients if they are only going to order an 8x10 and a few 4x6's or something, but if they come back with a 16x20 or something like that, then I have to know what is reasonable.

I'm not looking to lie or anything, I just don't feel like I have to explain my error if it isn't going to be obvious on the prints, but I obviously don't want to print bad products!!


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November 10, 2010

 

Tara R. Swartzendruber
  oh and you are so right....lesson learned. I never change that setting, so really don't know how it happened and I guess that's why I hadn't been diligent about checking it!!


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November 10, 2010

 

Lynn R. Powers
  Tara,

Sometimes I would forget, it comes with age :-(, that my photos that were taken in RAW+JPEG the JPEG was set for small. Of course if it looked pretty good on the computer I would do some PP of them only to find out that they wouldn't make an acceptable 12x18" print. I also found out that I was able to make an acceptable print up to 11x14" and a decent, non contest, print at 8x10" as long as I kept my dpi to 180 or better. Much below that and they looked like a bad newspaper photo.


Lynn


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November 10, 2010

 

Randy A. Myers
  I used to do the small increment increases but the software is much better now and I can't see a difference. I do it in one step and I print 20x30 and 24x36 sometimes. I wouldn't waste time in doing the increments myself, but you can try both ways and determine that for yourself. Good luck.


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November 10, 2010

 

Tara R. Swartzendruber
  Thanks! I'll do that!


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