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Pamela Njemanze
 

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I ordered wedding photos from a pro photographer and his website gave me the option to buy a 4x6 but he said he had to crop it too much to get a 4x6 b/c he made the images in that gallery to be either 8x10 or 5x7. when I asked for 5x7 he still had some trouble making it work. he said this was b/c he shot in 5x4 and that is the option the bride chose??? what I want to know for myself is....what does that mean? why cant images be resized in photoshop? I just want to know if what I shoot will be able to be any size I want (4x6, 5x7, 8x10 or 11x14 or bigger) w/o any cropping issues. this is maybe too big a ? is there a course to understand all the new things to learn w/ shooting/printing???


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January 13, 2010

 
- Carlton Ward

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  Hi Pamela,
This is all called aspect ratio. The 4x6 will be the same as most DSLR sensors and will print as shot without cropping - where as you will have to crop about an inch off each side to print an 8 x 10 because the aspect ratio is different.
Your example of the photographer shooting with a 5x4 is a large format camera and again has a completely different aspect ratio.
Richard Lynch teaches a course "From Monitor to Print" that you may consider taking and he can explain the aspect ratio better than I can :)
Hope the helps, Carlton


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January 14, 2010

 

Clayton T. Williams
  A quick solution for yourself is to learn to step back or zoom out a bit after you have composed the frame so that you will have room to crop to whatever size needed.

Travis


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January 14, 2010

 

John H. Siskin
  Hi Pam,
This might be easier to understand if we talked about a panorama, shot. If you had a shot that 15 inches long by 3 inches wide you couldn’t make an 8X10 out of it. If you reduced the side with 15 inches to 10 the 3 inch side would only be two inches. You could crop the image and make an 8X10, but you would lose a lot of the image. You could also change the shape of everything in the shot, but that would look weird. The relationship of one side to the other is called the aspect ratio. Some cameras have a way to set the aspect ratio while you shoot. Wedding photographers do this if they want to shoot for a certain size album. I would guess this is what happened in the situation you mentioned. I can’t imagine anybody shooting a wedding with a 4X5 film camera. You have more cropping options if you do not load the frame out to the edge.
Thanks, John Siskin


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January 15, 2010

 

Emily M. Rosson
  Pamela The best way I learned about this was by playing with my photoshop on the cropping I adjusted it to different sizes and cropped the same pictures. For example I pulled up my photo I chose to use and cropped it to a 5x7 saved that pic under anew file name then took my original and done the same thing by cropping to an 8x10 and just played with a few common sizes. Once I was finished with the sizes I wanted to try I pulled those files up starting with my original and compared them to see about how much would be cropped of for different sizes. So that when I shoot in 4x6 I know about how much of a boarder to leave around my shots. When you are done just make sure you do not cropped your original images to close. Always keep your original file that way if someone orders a size that takes a lot of cropping you have room to play. I hope this helps and I didn't talk to much to confuse you. Please feel free to message me if you have any other questions on this.


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January 21, 2010

 

Pamela Njemanze
  Carlton: Is that course through BetterPhoto? I may want to take it as there are many details to learn!

Travis: I like your solution, as I'm really in the habit of filling the frame as I see it.

John: I didn't realize you could shoot different aspect ratios on diff cameras, I'm sure mine is not that advanced since I bought a Digital Canon Rebel xt1i. Is this aspect ratio due to sensor size (APS-C vs. full frame?)

Emily: thanks, I think I will play around like that. I have MUCH to learn, just bought my digital in September. I prefer sending print jobs to labs, but sometimes sending them they need to crop too so I do need to learn to allow extra space, which I am not used to. Film seemed so much easier, but the rewards w/ digital are greater!
Thanks everyone!


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January 23, 2010

 

John H. Siskin
  Hi Pam,
Most dSLRs shoot the same aspect ration 2:3, regardless of the actual size of the sensor. This was the ratio of the 35mm still frame. Some cameras can set a different aspect ratio, as an option, in the camera. I don’t think your camera has this feature, and I don’t think it is really useful. This is designed to let you shoot to a specific size for an album, say a wedding album. You can use a cropping tool in most raw conversion programs set to a specific size, which will do the same thing, but with more control.
Thanks, John


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January 23, 2010

 
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