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John C. Precht
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/15/2005
 

50 D accessories


Ok so I recently Upgraded to a 50D from a rebel 300D and I am wondering the next upgrade I should get to bost my Zoom...I have a New EF 70-300 1:4-5.6 IS USM and have been trying to shoot Blue herons in the wild and I keep missing the shot by mere meters.....I would like maybe 1 more level of tele zoom or ???? thx John


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3/30/2009 6:08:57 PM

 
Carlton Ward
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  Hi John,
I have the 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS lens and it is really sharp at about f/7.1
I also have a 1.4 extender and this works well with my 70-200mm f/2.8 IS L but I lose auto focus ability with this attached to my 100-400 lens. The extender also costs you 1 stop (the 2.0 extender will cost you 2 stops) with any lens.
I haven't used the 70-300 but if it is as sharp as the 70-200 & 100-400, the extender may do the trick for you to get a little more reach. I have 2 recent photos in my better photo gallery of a Parrot & an Emu that were both taken with the 100-400 lens (without the extender attached).
Good luck,
Carlton


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3/30/2009 7:27:18 PM

 
John C. Precht
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  WOW k I will research the 100-400 I like the detail VERY Much...I've got ALOT to learn yet ...Like what do u mean by an extender is that like a tube for macro????.....I like the way u use colors AWSOME!!!!! thx John


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3/30/2009 9:07:46 PM

 
Carlton Ward
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  Hi John,
The 50D has an APS-C sensor which has a 1.6 crop factor which makes the 400mm more like 640mm - this works great for the long end but the bad thing is that my 17-40mm lens is really 27-64mm - so I lose on the wide angle end. Full frames cameras like the 5D & 1Ds series have full frame (36x22mm) sensors so 100mm lens is really 100mm.
Both the extender & extension tubes attach bewtween the camera body & lens. The extender adds length to your lens. An extension tube allows for a closer focusing distance. If you can only focus on things that are 4 feet away and you would like to be able to focus 2 feet away, the extension tube will do the job. There are different ones for various focusing lengths, I am just giving you a quick rundown on the basics.
John, there are some great courses here at Better Photo (I have taken 9 so far) and I would recommend an exposure class if you are not familiar with manually exposing or understanding the principles & techniques for obtaining proper exposure. Many things like extension tubes, etc.. are discussed during the courses as they relate to specific purposes. I often take a techniques/fundamentals type class to improve my technique as a photographer along with a Photoshop class to keep up with the digital aspects of editing, etc.
Its a fun learning curve and improvement and understanding will happen very quickly. I do not aspire to be a pro but I still want to be able to shoot like one because I love photography.
Have fun John,
Carlton


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3/31/2009 9:58:02 AM

 
John C. Precht
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/15/2005
  Thx Carlton....I have been thinking about taking an Online course here but I am A.D.H.D and I need to be a hands on guy so I didnt know where to start I will start with your recommendation on exposure and am going to the camera store in an hr to buy 2 extenders and try 'em out..I wish I could enter a hands on class but I haul produce from cali to the east coast and never know where im gonna be to schedule a class..maybe some day...I love the pik of the tiger drinking water awsome wiskers and lighting...I LOVE cats...thx again John


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3/31/2009 11:39:19 AM

 
Carlton Ward
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  Hello John,
If you have a laptop, you can still participate with classes. You will get a lesson to read over and then you will go out and make your shots or do the tasks and you get 10 days to do it (and this is flexable as well). Some of the instructors are constantly travelling and working from the road and they definitely understand how it is to work this way (when internet connects & travel problems delay things). The classrooms are people from all over the world and there are online conversations with each other and the instructor, so it becomes a safe setting to discuss things and all learn & grow together as students. Usually when I got hung up on something and mentioned it, a couple more students would reply they were having the same difficulty and healthy dialog would follow.
Exposure & technique type classes are more geared for getting out there and shooting a particular way or with specific camera settings to help you understand & control exposure & lighting challenges. To me, this is the good stuff.
The Photoshop classes are done on the computer (though you may need to take some specific photos to get a capture to use for a lesson) and will teach you to use the PS tools and how to manipulate an image according to which lesson you are working on.
Then its just a matter of practicing what you have learned so that it becomes 2nd nature to you. BP classes will greatly improve your photography and what you learn will lend itself for a solid knowledge base for the years to come. I still go back and look up old lessons from past classes for reference purposes. Especially some of the Photoshop stuff where there is one step in a process I cant remember but can recall what class/lesson it was in.

I dont know that I would buy 2 extenders at the same time. I would start with the 1.4 and play with that for a while and then see if you need anything more. Then you will have a few more $$ to save another lens or buy a lowepro backpack :)

Good luck John & practice as much as you can,
Carlton


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3/31/2009 1:30:51 PM

 
Andy 
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  Hi John, just a reminder. You cannot use the extender (either the 1.4x or 2.0x) on your EF 70-300mm lens. The 100-400mm (without the extender) would be a good choice. Or the 300mm f/4 IS plus the 1.4x extender may be an excellent alternative and keep the ligher 70-300mm for general use. Hope this helps.


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3/31/2009 2:14:11 PM

 
Carlton Ward
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  Moon with 100-400mm & 1.4 extender
Moon with 100-400mm & 1.4 extender
manually focused with IS turned OFF on a tripod...
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Andy & John,
You can use it on those lenses but you will lose auto focusing ability.
I have used my 1.4 with my 100-400 and manually focused to get some very nice moon shots.

Carlton


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3/31/2009 2:40:49 PM

 
John C. Precht
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Is this the lens u have Carlton?


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3/31/2009 4:42:38 PM

 
Carlton Ward
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  Yep John - Thats it. Its heavy and the zoom slides back & forth rather than having a rotating zoom ring but I like the in/out zoom myself. Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS USM - now at $1460 at B&H - http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/162616-USA/Canon_2577A002AA_100_400mm_f_4_5_5_6L_IS_USM.html


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3/31/2009 5:19:22 PM

 
Ken Smith
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  I also have the 100-400mm L lens and it's great!


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3/31/2009 6:46:30 PM

 
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