 Gord MacEachern |
Displaying licence plate # on vehicles Good morning and Merry Christmas. Just wondering about legalities on displaying vehicle licence plate numbers. I was at a car show some time ago and took some car photos. The one that I am working on includes the back view of the car. Right in the middle is the owners plate #. I don't know the owner. Bottom line is can I show the prominent plate # or do I need to do some PS work?
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- Carolyn M. Fletcher  Contact Carolyn M. Fletcher Carolyn M. Fletcher's Gallery |
I always blur mine out if I don't get permission. I know some owners can be a bit touchy.
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Samuel Smith |
all car owners have exclusive rights to photos of their vehicles,plate # or not.reproduced you can be sued for any reproduction. get a release or you encroach on a car owners rights. touchy? most would appreciate the coverage.yet you carolyn wish to userp the law. I myself have done this getting into venues. I guess we draw lines where we want them,hmmm. oh morality and the checkpoints.
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W. |
Only very few countries have draconian laws like that, and enforce them on a regular basis.
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Gord MacEachern |
I would have thought that being on display to the public, like at a public car show one would have to give up an expectancy of privacy. Maybe I watch too much "Law & Order" Gord
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- Carolyn M. Fletcher Contact Carolyn M. Fletcher Carolyn M. Fletcher's Gallery |
Yeah, I'm just a rotten criminal. What can I say..So shoot me.
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Gord MacEachern |
B&W or Colored ?
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Samuel Smith |
ok carolyn, someone photographs one of your photos,is that ok? as gort asked,public display?no!!! your talking about protected rights as citizens,us. carolyn,your demeanor hurts me.you took offense from my post,for some reason. so since this car owner has this classic car,you as an individual have every right to photograph it? actually this is legal,without profit or promotion..this does not exclude a portfolio. might as well shoot yourself carolyn,where is the honor as to photography vs ownership,it's mine??? it's just a car,it's just a photograph?
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- Carolyn M. Fletcher Contact Carolyn M. Fletcher Carolyn M. Fletcher's Gallery |
They can photo any of my photos they want to..I don't sell mine and am not interested in selling them, so if somebody wants one, all they have to do is ask. I didn't take offense at your comment at all, I was just trying to be funny.
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Mark Feldstein |
Happy New Year gang !!! As far as this question goes, some of you are kind of barking up the wrong bumper. License plates, at least the ones in the U.S., are property of the state through the Dept. of Motor Vehicles. Plates are supposed to be re-registered with DMV if you place them on a different vehicle. So, as state property, they're fair game for shooting and publishing without a release as no individual proprietary right attaches to the plates themselves. The vehicles themselves, however, are a different story. They ARE private property with various property rights granted by state and common law to the name of the guy/gal/entity whose name appears on the title to the vehicle. If the car is recognizable, either by tag or otherwise, IMHO you'd best should have a release to publish those shots as in other instances. Talk to a lawyer specializing in intellectual property law in your jurisdiction to determine the law in your particular state. OK Carolyn, now, where's my camera and we can get shootin'.
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- Carolyn M. Fletcher Contact Carolyn M. Fletcher Carolyn M. Fletcher's Gallery |
I think mine is under the couch...I'll have to look. Nothing to shoot this time of year in Okieland. Happy New Year, Mark!!
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Samuel Smith |
just trying to give warning.
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BetterPhoto Member |
Why not photoshop it , 2minutes and get on with your life. Don't be a worry wort, thats whats wrong with this country.
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Mark Feldstein |
Because the problem is the recognizability of the car, i.e., the private property itself, not the state's property of the license plate. Seewhatimeanhuh? And releases take about thirty seconds. M.
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W. |
"the problem is the recognizability of the car, i.e., the private property itself, not the state's property of the license plate." So use the non-problematic part of that equation to cover – literally – the problematic part: the recognizability of the car:
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Mark Feldstein |
Yeah, great idea, but I thought the purpose of the shot was the uniqueness of the plate. I don't get it. I feel poopy. :<( I'm going back to look at Bambi. M
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Oliver Anderson |
I used to show at lots of car shows and if the owner didn't take the plate off they're either a rookie or don't care. Just to help the look of the photo I usually photoshop out the plate unless it adds to the image...some are rather witty (like BADSBMR)
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Samuel Smith |
some of you play ignorant with property law.copyright or registered.pay attention. now oliver,we're you hired to shoot the venue or what?promotion or freelance,or I was just there to take some shots?can you possibly show some insight?
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Oliver Anderson |
At Concours d'Elegance built some of the vehicles...so freelance but sold images to publications. Media Pass Hot Import Nights built exotics and paid by publications to photograph vehicles. Media Pass I was speaking from purely aesthetic veiwpoint. The license plates sometimes detract from the details of the vehicle...I ALWAYS took mine off. If the show was a legitimate show the registered owner signed a release stating the car may be photographed or filmed. If the show was a local gathering, like the Exotics that I used to see in Crystal Cove (Newport CA) every Saturday morning then there was NO release signed and I would be wary. Just photoshop out the plate.
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Samuel Smith |
no,that is not the case.
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Robert Jensen |
Just saw this post. As a classic car photographer, and one who has been getting to know the car "guys" and "gals". They do recognize their own vehicles and you'd better have a property release if you decide to do anything commercial with the images. Most of the owners are happy to see their cars photographed and are more than happy to sign a release, especially if you give them a free 8x10 or two of what you have done. "If the show was a legitimate show the registered owner signed a release stating the car may be photographed or filmed." Most shows I have been to have been "legitimate", but do not have the owners sign that statement! And some of them, have a similar statement that only applies to those employed by the show organizers, and not to every photographer who decides to show up. There have been ample warnings here. Blur out a license plate or remove it altogether, and most owners can still recognize their vehicles. It is always best to take a few seconds to have them sign a release.
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- Carlton Ward Contact Carlton Ward Carlton Ward's Gallery |
Wow, this is an older thread :) I do blur the numbers on a normal license plate but for old cars with plates that read something like "29 Ford", I usually leave it as is so people will know what car they are looking at. Carlton
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