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Ross Stowe
 

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Hi. Ive been into photography for years now but never took the plunge and got the SLR camera I always wanted.
Ive decided now to purchase a SLR and have been looking into it for some time. I have my eyes set on The Canon EOS 450D 12MP Digital SLR Camera with Twin Lens(Lens included with camera - EF-s 55-250 and EF-s18-55 IS.) I would be mainly taking photos of Wildlife (Birds) so I figured the 55-250 lens would come in use, and then the 18-55 for normal photos, plus landscape ones.
Im looking at spending around £600 the The Canon Eos 450D and the 2 lenses comes to £650 is this a good price for what it includes?
Is the 450D a decent camera for this money? Will these two lenses be a good combo? Any advice on other cameras/lenses around my price range and that may suit my needs id realy appreciate it. Thanks alot.


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October 28, 2008

 

W.
 
Hi Ross,

welcome to BP. Hope you will enjoy photography as much as most of us here.

But in order avoid you a lot of dissappointment AFTER you will have spent the better part of £1,000 unfortunately I have to start by deflating your expectations.

Regarding your planned kit: if you intend to shoot birds and other wildlife 250mm is not nearly enough tele. For wildlife the bottom line is 400mm. For birding it's even 600mm (and up!) if you want any chance of frame filling birds.
Also, if you plan on using such long telephoto lenses a sturdy tripod is an absolute MUST. Image Stabilization – 'IS' (or 'VR', or 'AS', etc. etc.) – is only useful upto about 150mm, or 250mm telephoto if you yourself have a VERY steady hand. Because the longer the lens, the more any movement/vibration is magnified. With 400mm or 600mm lenses that is waaaay beyond the IS system's capability to neutralize.

So, imo, you had better rethink your plan for a minute. It's a lot of dough, after all.


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October 28, 2008

 

Amy JACKSON
  Hi Ross! Welcome to BP! For your price range you may want to consider the new 18-200 IS lens from Canon. You will eventually want a longer telephoto or zoom for wildlife though. Or you could get the 18-55IS and get a 75-300IS lens seperately. I use a 75-300 and it has worked for me most of the time. I have found myself wanting at least 400mm though sometimes. So my next purchase will be a 70-200 IS L with a teleconverter. Good luck to you! :)


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October 28, 2008

 

Ross Stowe
  Thankyou for the help, I guess ill have to have a think and do some more research before I spend all that cash.
Thanks again!


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October 28, 2008

 
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  For common birds that you see around your yard and neighborhood, you don't have to go all the way to 400mm. Ones that have grown used to people being around, a bird feeder, maybe a blind, maybe a remote, you can get pictures with a shorter lens, also more affordable.
For going out in the woods, getting birds considered more exotic, than probably you will need 400mm or above, and still maybe a blind.
Although I have seen great pictures done with short lenses, and the person was covered under a tarp, inside a canoe. And they drifted close to some birds, and got a rather tight shot.
Without a longer tele, it would take some extra effort, and a lot of other things you'd need to do, but it is doable.


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October 28, 2008

 

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  Hi Ross;

If you want to go manual with your camera, there are many long telephoto lenses available. These lenses areT-mount. You will need to use your camera in completely manual mode. You will have to make all the settings since these lenses will not link to the cameras electronics, but if you're on a tight budget, they may help. T-mount lenses can be found in many focal lengths including as long as 1,00mm and beyond.

Have fun and keep shooting,
Mark H.


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October 31, 2008

 

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  Thats your dream? Sounds simple


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November 01, 2008

 

John G. Clifford Jr
 
 
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ISO 800, Sigma 100-300/4 EX APO w/TC 1.4 EX DG teleconverter @ 420mm, 1/90 @ f/6.7, cropped in Adobe PS Elements

Two males from the neighborhood covey enjoying their breakfast.

John G. Clifford Jr

 
 
Hello Ross, and welcome to BP.

If you would consider other brands, both Pentax and Nikon offer a lot to wildlife shooters. The Nikon D300 12 MP dSLR will work with older AI-S manual-focus lenses, and you can pick up some great optics for great low prices. The Pentax K20D 14.6 MP dSLR will work with older M42, K, and T-mount lenses as well.

Here's a 'wildlife' picture, of some California Quail, taken with my Pentax K20D and Sigma 100-300/4 w/1.4x teleconverter (420mm focal length). I think the camera did a pretty good job.


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