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Kristy A. Keene
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/29/2006
 

Remembering 9-11


 
 
I just wanted to take the time out to remember those who lost their lives on September 11th, 2001. We Will Never Forget! If Anyone wants to share photos dedicated to 9/11, I thought this would be a great way to see them all! God Bless America and the families of the 9/11 Victims.


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9/10/2008 9:50:19 PM

 
Mark Feldstein
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/17/2005
  Thanks Kristy. And no matter which party you favor, whether you're an independent, Republican or Democrat, vote for Obama for President to get this country on the road to recovery and out of the war business.
M.


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9/10/2008 10:26:52 PM

 
Kristy A. Keene
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/29/2006
  I couldn't agree more :)


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9/10/2008 10:28:57 PM

 
W.   
Expressly NO offense meant, but I think this GLOBAL board dedicated to photography is not the appropriate place to express one nation's grief.
To some non-US citizens this feels like a hijack of 'their' neutral forum.


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9/10/2008 10:59:33 PM

 
Kristy A. Keene
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/29/2006
  I will have to disagree with you. I think everyone agrees that terrorism is never the answer. What happened to the United States was a tragedy and for that matter any country it happens to. I wanted to see people's photos dedicated to this day in history, so it does apply to photography. I will also have a dedication to the Tsunami victims. I think anything that result in a large number of lives lost deserves to be honored, no matter what country you are from. A tragedy is a tragedy.


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9/10/2008 11:10:53 PM

 
John G. Clifford Jr
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  I don't have a problem with the sentiment, but let's leave politics out of the discussion whether we're talking about who is to blame for 9/11 or who is the best person to lead us in the future. The 3,000+ people who died on September 11 weren't Democrats or Republicans, they were Americans.

The one good thing that came out of that day is that we all grieved as Americans. It's a shame that here we are as a country, divided again.


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9/10/2008 11:14:19 PM

 
Kristy A. Keene
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/29/2006
  I agree! Politics is a sore spot with everyone right now. All I care about is that the People who lost their lives are honored. I shouldn't have replied early it was more out of instinct than anything else. I never meant for this topic to upset or offend anyone. That was not my intend at all. We should come together from all over the world today to remember whats important here, to never forget, the families of the victims deserve that. My sister lives in NYC so this is personal to me. From the looks of it BP will probably delete this thread... And I innocently, just wanted to acknowledge this day in history....


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9/10/2008 11:24:55 PM

 
W.   
The ONE thing that is irrelevant on this forum is member's nationality!
Please do NOT introduce that divisive factor here!

If you "just wanted to acknowledge this day in history" then please do so on a HISTORY forum! NOT on a PHOTOGRAPHY forum!

"I wanted to see people's photos dedicated to this day in history".

Sorry, I don't buy that. If that were the case you wouldn't have waited until the 5th post to express that desire ON A PHOTO BOARD.
And, BTW, I have yet to see the first related image appear here.

You are NOT doing this forum and its members a favor by bringing this subject up here.


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9/11/2008 7:06:17 AM

 
Leslie J. Morris
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I am a survivor of the World Trade Center. I was in Building 2 when we were attacked. This image is in memory of my co-worker Bill who did not make it out alive. We were lucky, we only lost one.


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9/11/2008 7:32:23 AM

 
Leslie J. Morris
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  Freedom
Freedom
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Lets try this again...my computer froze. Here is the image.


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9/11/2008 7:38:07 AM

 
Corinne M. Thompson
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~Eternal Moments~

This is one of 150 works of art displayed at the Smith Stained Glass Museum at Navy Pier.
Designed by K.Pinkhasik.

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Kristy, I think your idea of a thread for those who wish to share their photography dedications is wonderful!

I'll try to add mine....


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9/11/2008 7:38:33 AM

 
Jillian Danielson
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/24/2007
 
 
  Not Forgotten
Not Forgotten
A salute for ALL firefighters, all emergancy personal and military. My prayers go up for your families. I will enter this every year on 9/11,,for we must never forget!
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I salute all the men and women,, firefighters, police, health care workers, and every day citizens that ran into those buildings to save lives while others ran out. Our military, and emergancy care workers put their lives on the line every day. I salute each of you, yet grieve for the families that lost their loved ones.

I salute you all, this photo is firefighters also saluting their brothers and sisters.


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9/11/2008 8:06:25 AM

 
Kristy A. Keene
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/29/2006
  Wow everyone, some lovely dedications!

Will~ I would ask you to read my original post again... And I quote "If Anyone wants to share photos dedicated to 9/11, I thought this would be a great way to see them all!" So yes that was my first intention. And if you do not like this post, by all means do not participate in it....


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9/11/2008 8:17:56 AM

 
Paul Goodman
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/22/2006
  My question is - If a photo offends you why do you feel you have to make it known. If it was not for our fellow americans based in Washington, you would not have this photo site, an american company. it is funny the one doing the complaining only has one photo in his gallery, I am sure aomeone would find something about your work that offends them.

so Mr smith take it somewhere else.

sorry Kristy, Love your creation.


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9/11/2008 8:24:51 AM

 
Melinda F. Schneider
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BetterPhoto.com Editor's Pick   Honor
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On this emotional day for America, I am posting this image to honor all heroic acts, big and small, that shape our lives every day.

This image was created by placing two plastic cups (one blue with stars, the other red) behind four inches of glass and shooting from inches away. I love the way it came out, the way it looks like a flag blowing in the wind.
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In honor of all the daily heroes in our lives...


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9/11/2008 8:27:22 AM

 
Mary Beth Aiello
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I live in PIttsburgh, and remember watching the news on 9/11. Our local news cut in and said a plane was headed to our city. Minutes later, Flight 93 crashed in Shanksville. This is a tribute to all.


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9/11/2008 8:38:20 AM

 
Kathryn (Love) Scheet
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/8/2004
  oook - my 30 cents worth

not necessary to involve politics in this forum, or segregation, nor wars, or nationalities, or religions -

we are free to express our views - but it is petty to involve this kind of stuff over BP entries... this community is world wide and there should be no bias other than what is stated in Jim's rules - BUT everyone's right to free speech should be done in private off the forum - AND grown up discussion not singling any nation, politician, race or creed for the BP community's sake !!

I guess that's about $ 50.00 worth - imho.

(and I suppose I am just reversing what I said BUT - I will also mention, that when my 19 year old son is deployed through the US Army - that is the utmost self sacrificing thing any one can do - to put themselves in harms way to try and unite the world in peace and harmony - what ever country the soldiers are from) Hoohah!


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9/11/2008 8:47:14 AM

 
Diana Child
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/27/2006
  Oh goodie, my turn to cause trouble.

1)Kristy, I think posting this thread is an awesome way to remember not only the victims of this tragedy, which affected not just Americans, but people of MANY Nationalities (there were more than just Americans on the planes and in the buildings), but to remember all the families affected.

2)Mark, turning this into a political forum demeans the tragedy in a way that cuts many people to the core. You don't wave a campaign sign at a funeral or memorial.

3)W. Smith, You have just as much right to your opinion as we do. I will say that I disagree with your post. Photo Clubs and Individuals are invited to post photos (as long as they are within the BP guidelines). What Kristy has done is invited us to participate in a Photography Theme. A group of photos dedicated to what was a GLOBAL tragedy. I will be posting my shot a little later.

Several people didn't want to reply to W. Smith's post (they stated this in a photo club discussion) because they didn't want to dignify what seems to be a lack of compassion with a response. I disagree. By not responding, we are agreeing by omission. I think that the point of BP is to share photos that mean something to us. Not just to enter a contest. If someone wants to post a thread inviting photos dedicated to the sinking of the Titanic, by all means, let them. If they want to post a thread devoted to photos remembering the victims of the earthquakes in Iran, then please let them do so.

Participation in these threads is voluntary. I choose to exercise my right to participate.


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9/11/2008 9:33:22 AM

 
Kristy A. Keene
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/29/2006
  Woo Hoo, Diana!!! :)


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9/11/2008 9:42:37 AM

 
Mark Feldstein
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/17/2005
  The very fact that Kris mentioned this issue makes it fair game for political discussion because whether you realize it or not, while the core issue is a worldwide tragedy, the collateral issues are ALL political. In my view, you can't separate one from the other or discuss one without discussing the other. Look at the fallout from this over the past 7 years. I'll spare you a recitation of that laundry list but whether you realize it or not, the victims of the WTC attacks died in a political cause and it is, was, and will always be a political issue and every photograph that arose as a direct or indirect result of this catastrophe IS political expression.

As to Diane's comments, I have to tell you that yes, I would wave a flag or a campaign sign at a funeral and/or memorial service. I've in fact done that many times, from services for my fellow fallen Viet Nam vets, to fellow photojournalists, and others. We all grieve and pay respect in different ways. Right???

And if this place isn't an appropriate place, time and manner for expression of free political speech tied to photographic expression, like this photo in my gallery, then I honestly don't know what is. http://feldstein-photo.net/-/feldstein-photo/gallery.asp?cat=39384&pID=1&row=15&photoID=2717838&searchTerm=

Take it light ;>)
Mark


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9/11/2008 10:00:26 AM

 
Gregory LaGrange
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  All well and good, buuuuuuuuuuuttttttt, if somebody wanted to interject some dedications to victims of tragedy that came from American doings, I think the rights and freedoms and "hey, this is an American company..." would have a different feeling about what's a better place for it.
So I see Will's point.


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9/11/2008 10:04:31 AM

 
Diana Child
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/27/2006
  Mark, I you have some nice stuff in your gallery, and I love the one you placed the link to. One of my best friend's sons died recently in Iraq. I was standing next to her at the gravesite when a group of activists holding up the signs of a political candidate came marching up. This was her time to grieve an they turned it into a political free-for-all. She didn't need that. They certainly didn't win any votes for their candidate. She was trying to say goodbye to her son and they were chanting things like "Bush is a Murderer". It wasn't fair. Not to her, and not to the memory of her son.

You certainly have a right to express your views, political, or otherwise. I just wish you would start a separate thread for it. I'd be happy to participate.

Gregory, I disagree. If they want to start a thread like you are suggesting. That's their right. I wouldn't participate, but I wouldn't deny them their right to do so.


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9/11/2008 10:18:15 AM

 
Diana Child
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  In Memory Of...
In Memory Of...
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My photo dedication...


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9/11/2008 10:19:33 AM

 
Dr Silly
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I have never done this so lets see if it works.


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9/11/2008 10:25:31 AM

 
Dr Silly
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Try again.


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9/11/2008 10:28:55 AM

 
Elida Gutierrez
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/6/2007
 
 
 
I haven't see this tread and already enter in the contest so I deleted my entry and uploaded again to port it here.

One more ting in 9/11 not just Americans die, there where people from more than 80 countries, that's why I think this day should be remember it all over The World.


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9/11/2008 10:37:47 AM

 
Nick Jones
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/18/2008
  I'm not sure this is the place to be discussing politics. At the moment, it's like trying to discuss religion! I have no problem with anybody who wants to post a photo of the American flag- at any time. Understand what that means though. If you wave a national flag, it says, "I'm proud to be American." Which really means, "I believe my country is better than some." Tell me that's not political? So as Mark says, the two go hand in hand.

I'm glad to see so many are passionate about this though. Perhaps you could all turn your passion to a different type of media- video. This seems like the day we should start opening our eyes. I encourage you all, in fact the whole world, to watch this movie:

www.zeitgeistmovie.com

It's about 2 hours long, so perhaps just skip to part 2 as this is the relevant part today. Let's start asking more questions and stop being sheep.

p.s. I'm very sorry for anyone who lost friends or family on that day.

Nick.


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9/11/2008 10:50:48 AM

 
Dr Silly
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  Elida, I agree with you. Well said. :O)


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9/11/2008 10:59:13 AM

 
Donna La Mattino Pagakis
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  Glory Steps
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These steps were captured by the Oceanside Pier in Southern California. This is for the 9/11 forum only!

Thank you Kristy for starting this thread!

To see the original
CLICK HERE

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In memory of those who lost a loved one on 9/11, I would like to add an image to this forum. My thoughts and prayers are with you on this sad and memorable day in history.

Donna


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9/11/2008 12:13:33 PM

 

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  I never thought of it until I heard it on the radio today, but since our fight on terror since 9/11, Amercia has been kept safe since. Fighting the war on terror has hurt our economy, but that always works itself out. Anyway I just want to thank the soldiers who love their county so much that they would sacrifice their lives to make the world a better place for all of our futures.

God Bless America


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9/11/2008 3:07:05 PM

 

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Thank you for your John


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9/11/2008 3:17:35 PM

 
Kristy A. Keene
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/29/2006
  Thank you all for your dedication! Seven years later the pain is still with us all and each year we will grieve for the victims and their families. God Bless all who have been affected by this tragedy directly or indirectly.


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9/11/2008 10:21:01 PM

 
Giordano 
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  Thanks Christy for your effort in keeping this not political....


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9/12/2008 3:27:46 AM

 

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When I am called to duty, LORD, wherever flames may rage,
Give me the strength to save some life, whatever be it's age.
Help me embrace a little child before it is too late,
Or save an older person from the horror of that fate,
Enable me to be alert and hear the weakest shout,
And quickly and efficiently to put the fire out,
I want to fill my calling, LORD, and five the best in me,
To guard my every neighbor and protect his property
And if, according to my fate, I am to lose my life,
Please bless with YOUR protective hand, my childre3n and my wife. AMEN

This is for the 343 brothers I lost on 9/11, along with every other firefighter who has lost their lives for the sake of others.


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9/12/2008 8:21:02 AM

 
Melinda F. Schneider
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  Wonderful poem and image, Mark. Thanks for sharing.


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9/12/2008 8:58:59 AM

 

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  I shot the eagle in Colorado on a four wheel drive trail run. The poem is taken from the plaque my mother got me when I joined the fire department. I'm going to check the internet to find the policeman's prayer. My net has been up and down due to weather and other matter's , so I couldn't post that until today. I'm sorry.


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9/12/2008 11:28:03 AM

 
Leslie J. Morris
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  Beautiful Mark, thanks for sharing. I was a guest speaker in a 6th grade classroom yesterday talking about my experience in the WTC on that fateful day. The kids asked a lot of questions about firefighters and rescue workers. They were truely amazed at all they did to save as many lives as possible. True heros!


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9/12/2008 11:52:03 AM

 

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Dear LORD,
Be with me on my beat,
This day and every day,
Grant that each weary block I walk,
May ease a brothers way,

Let me be kindly to the old,
And to the young, Be strong,
But let me triumph over those,
Who's acts are cruel and wrong.

And if, according to YOUR plan,
I am to lose my life,
Please bless with YOUR protecting hand,
My children and my wife.

My dedication to all those who have given the ultimate sacrifice for the sake of good.


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9/12/2008 6:36:35 PM

 

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  Leslie, I wasn't ignoring your comment. I was trying to formulate the words to say about your personal horror. That is something that no person should have to endure. Those are memories that no person should have to live with. I try to pray every day that it never happens again. I'm happy that you have found a constructive outlet for your remorse. I can still remember going to the fire station to lower the flag. I was nowhere near Ground Zero, but the knife cut just as deep. GOD be with you.


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9/13/2008 3:01:21 PM

 
Leslie J. Morris
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  Thanks Mark, God is good and had helped me put everything into proper perspective and I am now able to use my experience how He wants me to. Leslie


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9/13/2008 3:35:46 PM

 
Pete H
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No political commentary...No agenda...

Just a image I captured that speaks volumes to me.

Pete


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9/13/2008 9:02:49 PM

 
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