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Photography Question 

Ulysses A. Villamin
 

Contest Entries


Is it okay to enter a single photo presented in (for example) three or five variations (this would make 3 or five entries in total)?

For example I entered a self-portrait on the People Category. The following day, I decided to add some saturation and boost the red so I make the adjustments I want and entered the 'new' version into the same category... and son on.

Will this be a violation of sort?

Thanks in advance :)


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June 20, 2008

 

David Van Camp
  Only the first image will be considered. The rules state that you may enter any image ONCE per month. You would have to make rather drastic changes for a second version of the image to be considered. Bumping up the saturation is not drastic.


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June 20, 2008

 

Ulysses A. Villamin
  How about a B/W version or a Sepia or PS Filters?

How do you qualify drastic?


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June 21, 2008

 

Jessica Jenney
  David, you can do that. That would be acceptable.


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June 21, 2008

 

David Van Camp
  Jessica, read the rules.

Ulysses, they do not define 'drastic', so interpret as you will.

However, if you look at the gallery for the GP winner with the Buddist statutes shot, he did this with another shot (presuming they're still up.) The second one was MUCH improved over the first, but he only got an EP on the first and the second was apparently not considered.


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June 21, 2008

 

Jessica Jenney
  There's nothing in the rules that states that you can't enter a photo more than once with different treatments. I've seen this time and time again! Ulysses, it doesn't hurt to try!


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June 24, 2008

 

Colleen Farrell
  Jessica's right on this one. Each time you upload a photo into your gallery, it gets a new number. So each of these photos are "different," even if it's the same original image, only with different treatments. Many people do this. What you can't do is re-enter the same photo from your gallery day after day (in the same month).


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June 24, 2008

 

David Van Camp
  OK, I'll give that this is a bit ambiguous and subject to interpretation...

From the rules:
You may only enter a given photo once per the contest month. You may only enter each given photo into a single category during the contest month.

From the q&a:
Can you enter the same image twice if you make corrections or changes to the original entry?
Yes, you can resubmit images that you've enhanced or improved. What's more, you can re-submit an entry even if you have not made changes to the original. If you believe your photo was overlooked by the judges, you can resubmit it in a future month.

Note that 'photo' is never really defined... do they mean, point yer camera & shoot? If so, clearly you may only enter one 'point & shoot' per month, regardless of how you process the image file.

The last sentence in the above q&a SEEMS to support this pov, but is quite ambiguous and can easily be interpreted differently.

My comment of 'drastic changes' really relates to the recomendations for submitting a previous winner to the cash contest, but, I think, logically, it would apply to submitting a single 'photo' (point & shoot once :) in a single month, since a 'drastic' change would (one would think) make it impossible to tell if it is actually the same 'photo'.

At any rate... you may interpret these rules as you see fit, of course :D

dvc


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June 24, 2008

 

Colleen Farrell
  "Note that 'photo' is never really defined... do they mean, point yer camera & shoot? If so, clearly you may only enter one 'point & shoot' per month, regardless of how you process the image file."

I do think "photo" means final, post-processing image--with the assumption that there is a photo in there somewhere. ;) (And not, say, just a vector shape or something.)

In another discussion/thread about wildlife images and whether a photo of a captive animal could be considered "wildlife," instructor Richard Lynch made the point that it's the final image that counts, not how you arrived at it. (Stolen images, stock photos, etc. wouldn't apply of course.) He wasn't speaking specifically *for* BP, but I gathered BP felt that way, especially since there was a subsequent article on this topic--of the importance of the final image over how the original "point 'n shoot" capture was achieved--that appeared in one of the newsletters.

So this seems to confirm that what BP is looking at is the final image, not the original shot, when they talk about what is acceptable in the contest.

Back to Ulysses' question--if all I were going to do is adjust the saturation or contrast, I'd just delete my first entry and enter the new version. That seems most logical. If I were going for what David calls "drastic changes," then I'd enter it again as a completely new photo ("final image") with a new title, even if the original capture was the same.


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June 24, 2008

 
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