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Robert G. Stalnaker
 

To resize or not to resize


I have seen tons of questions and answers about resizing, and it seems everybody resizes their images, but the instructions are clear . . .

"For uploading images with the multi image uploader, it is not necessary to resize your images."

This is my fourth attempt to get advice on this.

Does EVERYBODY use the single image uploader? Am I the only one here that uses the multi image uploader?

Are the instructions wrong?

If the instructions are correct, then why does everybody give their 2 cents about sizing and nobody simply says "just upload it using the multi image uploader--no resizing is necessary?

Are my images just as good at BP after uploading? No. Would they be better if I use the single image uploader and do the 480 thing? You tell me. Please...somebody.


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May 02, 2008

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  You can resize it, or it's going to get resized on upload.
I use the single uploader because something went wrong with bp's uploader and reading the java script. It kept freezing up.
So I went back to the old way. That kept working fine.
Use what works for you, don't use what doesn't.


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May 02, 2008

 

Robert G. Stalnaker
  Hi Gregory. Thanks for responding. Even Jim Miotke answered some sizing questions on this other thread:

http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.php?threadID=2287

. . . and never mentioned the multi image uploader and the ability to use it without resizing. Maybe that tool only became available after he posted. Like I said, nobody mentiones using it--I have always used the multi image uploader.

Save as TIFF? The instructions say if you save as a TIFF, be sure to use 8 bit, not the 16 bit format. However, Photshop Elements 6 does not differentiate between the two--it just says "TIFF". How are you supposed to know which is which?

I am not happy with the post-upload quality, as other members have stated. I really would like to know the BEST way. Somebody said sharpen after resizing. I normally sharpen before resizing. Is this opinion or fact that when you sharpen matters in terms of quality?

What we need is more detailed steps of the BEST way to upload for maximum quality. For now, I will switch to single image uploader, short side 480, and sharpen after resizing to see if I notice any change. THX


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  Are you looking under 'mode' to change the bit amount?
If not, there isn't any noticeable difference of an uploaded tiff and jpeg, so uploading jpegs won't matter.
I sharpen before resizing. I don't see that as mattering either, before or after. It'll just take different settings on un-sharp mask.(different %, different pixel size)
Just experiment with different sharpening settings. 480 as the biggest size is the only thing that's been determined that you need to do.


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  I mean you have to sharpen also, but that 480 size is something specific that you need. Other things can vary by amount.


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May 02, 2008

 

Robert G. Stalnaker
  It's a lot more fun to look at your mini pic now compared to that ape.

In PSE 6, I don't see any "mode". In the format dropdown text box, there is only one TIFF option. The instructions say if you upload as a 16 bit TIFF, the image will be distorted. Now if it is really distorted, we would clearly see that. If it is only slightly distorted, that could look like your typical poor quality uploaded image.

Like so may other fuzzy opinions, is a TIFF really better than a JPEG?

I have uploaded photos 10MB plus using the multi image uploader. Is there a max file size if I use the single image uploader?

I appreciate the answers. The instructions really need to be redone and clarified.


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  They deleted the one I had a couple of days ago.
Mode is under 'image', or at least should be. A 16bit will come out looking like interference on a tv screen. A tiff isn't better than a jpeg after it's uploaded. You can keep tiffs for permanent files, and what you do to the picture to get it ready for upload.
But just for the uploading you can stay with tiffs.
Your 10mb files are still reduced down for display. So whatever method they use, it's still ends up the same. The single image uploader you'll have to resize down before you use it. If you're used to high speed internet or fiber optic, you may not want to take the time to resize what you want to upload.
If you see some fuzziness with the multi uploader even with prior sharpening, then try some images with the single, resized to 480.
I do sharpening set at about 230%, pixel size 1.3, and that other setting at 3. Then I make it 480 and upload.
Those that sharpen after resizing are going to have a much lower number for the %


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