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Dale 
 

Removing Picture from Picture.com


Hey,
Submitted a photo to picture.com. Got the email saying that I was selected to be in their book. I thought, wow, that's kinda cool. I was excited until I realized that I needed to pay for the book. I didn't pay for the book and I just got an email saying that I have been invited to Las Vegas for some convention. Not going...I will not spend $600 just to be at the convention..I am wondering HOW TO TAKE MY PICTURE OFF PICTURE.COM.


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1/22/2008 6:50:01 PM

 
Samuel Smith
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/21/2004
  welcome dale,
i'm sure you read and agreed to their terms of entry?
if it was copyrighted you still hold the copyright.buuuuuut,you agreed to their terms.
sam


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1/23/2008 11:01:16 AM

 
Irene Troy
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/27/2004
  Hi Dale and welcome to BP. If you do a search (search button is on upper right of page) you will see probably about a thousand posts about Picture.Com; International Library of Photography and other such semi-scams. Unfortunately, as many people here can attest, the entire operation is a massive attempt to mislead and misuse people. While what they do is unethical and downright despicable, it is not illegal. [As to whether it should be or not… well that is a whole other question]. As so many others, you were taken in by promises of being published and seeing your image displayed for all to see. Thankfully, you did not send them any money and do not plan to get scammed again. You probably don’t have to worry about their using your image – they only publish images by people who send them money. As to the “convention”: good choice not to go. From what I have read here and elsewhere, the “convention” is simply another way to scam money from the unsuspecting and not an opportunity to learn, share or do anything else of value. You are much better off coming here and showing your images and learning from the good and talented people at BP.

Good luck

Irene


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1/23/2008 11:14:34 AM

 
Samuel Smith
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/21/2004
  oh irene,
they can use his image,any way they wish.
by submission I agree to the terms..
wether they play on vanity or mislead an ego that they will be published,who's at fault?i'm sure it was the babysitter who watched the kid at one time and didn't properly instruct the child on being duped.
so why not join an adult league where it's understood we can read?
they explain all.so.unethical?
I red,hence the vanity and ego kicks in,or I read,read not red.the blame is mute.
oh irene,that they were played for a sucker only means they should have first checked to see if a stick would fit up their as.....
rude or rudimentry?
sam


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1/23/2008 9:18:55 PM

 
Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2003
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  Country and western?
Oh Irene.


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1/24/2008 12:41:25 AM

 
Samuel Smith
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/21/2004
  it does sound like that.i don't know how to word it not to make it seem like some are..victims.well not really victims,more like less than knowledgeable..ok.it was the babysitter.
is it always someones else's fault?
politically correct.well,richard cranium.
name witheld upon request.


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1/24/2008 8:11:09 PM

 
Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2003
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  No, many of those people really aren't victims of anything but their own hubris.(new S.A.T. word)
With a lot of those pictures, if those people have ever seen a photo that really captured their attention, there's no reasonable way to not put most of the blame on themselves for not being able to compare what they have to something that could stand out.


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1/24/2008 8:56:43 PM

 
Irene Troy
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/27/2004
  Ah Ha! Now you are venturing into the territory of reality versus perception versus what we believe. For a long time now I’ve marveled at the number of posts on this website that deal with Picture.com, et al. It seems an unending source of frustration and outrage. These companies (or company under several names) are guilty of misleading people and of praying on the emotions and desires of their victims. But – and this is an important BUT – the victims also bare some responsibility. It’s somewhat similar to the people who are taken in by “get quick rich” schemes. Everyone over the age of 15 should know that there is no such thing as “get rich quick” but, due to a variety of reasons, people continually send money off to groups/companies that promise the secret for immense wealth.

My mantra – fair or not – is that you have to be honest with yourself about the quality of your work. In short, be as critical, if not more so, of your work as you are of someone else. People are continually asking why their images have not won in the legit BP contest. They complain that the contest is “fixed” or something of that type. Then you go to their gallery and you see images that are poorly composed, badly exposed, the horizon is off kilter, the image is not sharp, etc. Too often these are the same people taken in by the Picture.com folks. Now before everyone jumps on me, I am not saying that everyone who is taken in by these schemes is overly vain or a poor photographer – far from it. It is just that too often people overestimate the quality of their own images and fall for the flattery these companies offer. I compare my own photography to that which I see here and on other sites that I visit as well as to images seen in some of the better magazines. If I received a letter or e-mail from someone saying that my image has been chosen for inclusion in some unknown publication or for something of that type, I’d be very suspicious. My photography has improved over time, but it is certainly not at a level to compete in a legitimate national contest that has any prestige. This doesn’t depress me or make me feel inferior, it is just an honest assessment and keeps me from letting my ego drive my intellect.


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1/25/2008 7:32:26 AM

 
Samuel Smith
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/21/2004
  to be polite can be constructive,or not.
even the word prestige challenges me.
sometimes I think I only read the cliff notes,or believed them.hmmm.
you left out the nice photo posts.and the real sincerity.

sometimes my elbow gets sore from patting myself on the back,ep.


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1/26/2008 10:36:07 PM

 
Carolyn  M. Fletcher
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/6/2001
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  The people they prey on are usually newcomers to photography and would have no idea how to judge the quality of their work. (The "I like it so it must be good" syndrome).


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1/27/2008 4:20:43 AM

 
Nemil B. Chabebe
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/9/2004
  Hi Dale, don't feel bad, you are not alone, I got my 15 minuted fame with picture.com myself, for what? for nothing. Now I get not only the chance to go to the convention, but an award as the Honor photographer or something like that, the offers of the coins and the certificates etc... I still have two pictures there. Just unsuscribed or send their emails to the spam folder. I'm pretty sure your photos are real good, you still can use them, they are copyrighted to you, but they have the rights to use them as well. I was a fool myself and I found BP and I feel like home, 3 years with the family and I have learned so much, I see the pictures I have with picture.com and it is not as good as others I have taken after BP and not as good as the ones the BP family has taken. so I improved myself and learned a lot. When I found out how to finish business with picture.com I'll let you know.
NEMIL.......


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2/3/2008 3:10:07 AM

 
Kathryn DeJong   Sigh, me too. I admitt I am new to the photography scene and to having the internet period. They convinced me; I even bought the book, and now this whole Vegas thing. If I questioned the quality of my work with it; then I should have questioned it the first time. I at least have learned from this dupe, even though I still feel bruised, and can move on from here, hoping to better my abilities. I hope someone else sees this before they go through the same. Kat


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2/6/2008 11:09:33 AM

 
Nemil B. Chabebe
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/9/2004
  I forgot to mentioned that, I got one of my photos in the book. But it is not the way we think it should, it cost you a litle bit of money and you get one copy of the book.


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12/19/2008 10:44:31 PM

 
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