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Charles Cooper
 

RAW Format


I have a Nikon D50 and want to learn the RAW format. What color mode do I use? I have CS2, but am just learning to use it. Charles


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January 09, 2008

 

Richard Lynch
  I wrote a short article on changing color spaces for a D70 here, and I hope it is similar:

D70 Color Space

But that is a different issue than shooting in RAW format. You set RAW under the Quality. For Quality settings you want to choose Image Quality from the Shooting Menu and then choose NEF or NEF + JPEG.

OK?

Richard Lynch


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January 10, 2008

 

Charles Cooper
  If I shoot in NEF, does the color mode matter?


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January 10, 2008

 

Richard Lynch
  Well, that may depend on how the file is handled. In purest form, RAW should be just the numbers as captured from the sensor, so you could conclude it doesn't matter. If there are dual files created (NEF and JPEG) then you need to assign the space. If the file also write a space to the metadata, then you should probably assign a space. As there may be other variables, and you have increased bit depth in RAW, my inclination is to set the camera to the broadest space available...and that way you really don't have to worry about it.

Richard Lynch


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January 10, 2008

 

Pete H
  Charles,

Can you be a bit more specific?

Color mode and color space are confusing terms.

Are you asking the setting on your camera or the file processing?


Pete


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January 11, 2008

 

Charles Cooper
  I meant the color mode setting on the camera. Should it be set to AdobeRGB for best results?


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January 11, 2008

 

John P. Sandstedt
  In a word, YES.


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January 13, 2008

 

Pete H
  DITTO! Yes!

This is the widest color space currently in digital imaging.

Can you see a diff compared to sRGB?
That is questionable and depends on many factors.


Pete


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January 13, 2008

 

Richard Lynch
  Pete,
ProPhoto is a wider standard. And there may be others. Utility may, as you say "depend on many factors"

Richard


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January 13, 2008

 

Pete H
  Ya, it's a tuff call here Richard; since we are now comparing apples to oranges when the orchard is not known to even grow oranges.

(Profiling artifacts) in "Prophoto" present many problems to the (average) sensor available to most photographers who are concerned with the final output only.

While it does theoretically render a "wider" color space, that does not necessarily equate to better....I would prefer NOT to argue that last statement.

There are also paper considerations if or when printing. Mapping (Prophoto) channels outside the paper's abilities presents problems well beyond relative colorimetric balancing algorithms.

A wider standard? No..Not to most users, pro or otherwise; unless I misunderstood your intent with your statement? A wider (gamut)? Absolutely.

Better? Worse? Perceptable? Tuff question..a zillion variables.

all the best,

Pete


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January 13, 2008

 

Charles Cooper
  Thanks to all who have responded to my oringal question. Some of your responses are beyond my current understanding, but has given me incentive to learn. Anyway, I will use the AdobeRGB Color Mode in my D50 and the NEF+Basic for now. I'll learn the color setting for Photoshop CS2 as I go. Thanks, Charles


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January 13, 2008

 

Richard Lynch
  Pete,
"Standard" meaning broadly used and clearly defined...ProPhoto is a wider gamut than AdobeRGB clearly defined and used in imaging. I don't advocate it, and don't use it. I was clarifying that Adobe RGB is not the widest--and not at all equating 'bigger' to better. I'm not really interested in arguing 'better' either as there are choices between color spaces for a reason. It surprises a lot of people that I use an sRGB working space by choice...in my experience it makes the most sense. Others may have different opinions and they are entitled to those. I'm of the opinion that any space can work if you use it correctly and understand the pros and cons. Understanding is helped by keeping facts in line.

Richard


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January 14, 2008

 

Pete H
  Totally agree Richard!

Hell; I shoot more JPEG than RAW DESPITE the obvious benefits of RAW. LOL

Pete


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January 14, 2008

 
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