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Tom Leckwart
 

420EX Slave Trigger


Can I use an optical slave with a 420EX? Camera is a 300D. I was hoping to be able to have the option of keeping the 420EX on the camera, as a radio wireless takes that spot. I have heard that the 420EX fires a preflash that will not allow an optical slave trigger to work with this. Any experts out there that can help? Thanks-Tom


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October 25, 2007

 

W.
 
"I was hoping to be able to have the option of keeping the 420EX on the camera, as a radio wireless takes that spot."

You can't have both on top of your camera simultaneously, Tom. It's either/or.
And if you have a wireless remote on your camera, why would you want to trigger your flash with an optical signal too? What's the point?


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October 25, 2007

 

Tom Leckwart
  Typing this late I did not explain what I was trying to ask. Could I use a optical trigger fired by the 420EX or does the optical have to be triggered by the sorry pop up flash? Then, id I wanted to use a radio wireless, is there a radio wireless available to fire the 420EX as a slave. The radio recievers I have seen appear to be made to work with pro style lighting, no hotshoe mount. Sorry if I am confusing, after midnight who knows what I might say... Thanks-Tom


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October 25, 2007

 

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If I understand Canon's website correctly the ST-E2 transmitter they sell is dedicated to the 550EX flashgun...

Dunno if the 300D/420EX combo can be set to wireless remote, taking care of the preflash. Some cameras do. I yours does your manuals ought to cover it.

In general, "the sorry pop up flash" works excellently as a trigger to remote, wireless flashguns. Used a Minolta setup like that for years. And still do.


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October 25, 2007

 

Tom Leckwart
  Looks like I have finally found a constructive use for that tiny flash mounted to my camera. I'll get two optical slaves for portable off camera flash and give this setup a shot when I need low strength battery powered light. Thanks for the tip.


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October 26, 2007

 

Jon Close
  The ST-E2 controller will work with remote mounted 420EX, 430EX, 550EX, 580EX, and 580EX II.

The 300D's built-in flash works in E-TTL mode only and so will always fire a pre-flash. To use it to set off remote flash with optical triggers, those optical triggers need to be made specifically for digital systems so that they ignore the pre-flash. Otherwise they'll fire the remote flash before the shutter opens.


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October 26, 2007

 

Andy
  As Jon said, the built-in flash works in E-TTL mode only in all Canon digital cameras. Also only the 580EX II, 580EX, 550EX, 430EX, MT-24EX and MR-14EX can be set to manual on a E-TTL (II) camera. If you only have the 420EX, the following article may help:

http://photonotes.org/articles/eos-flash/#disableettl


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October 26, 2007

 

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"optical triggers need to be made specifically for digital systems so that they ignore the pre-flash"

Do you know of any that you can point us to, Jon?

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"give this setup a shot when I need low strength battery powered light"

Tom, FYI, I've used my "sorry pop up flash" to trigger up to 5x 5600D's and 3x 3rd party brand flashguns simultaneously without a hitch. I bet double that number wouldn't be a problem either.
So an optical trigger isn't just for "low strength battery powered light".


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October 26, 2007

 

Andy
  "optical triggers need to be made specifically for digital systems so that they ignore the pre-flash"

Here's one, for example.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/396592-REG/Sunpak_DIGIADAPT_Digital_Camera_Flash_Adapter.html


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October 26, 2007

 

Andy
  Here are a few more, all from B&H:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/263024-REG/Wein_W940030D_HS_Hot_Shoe_Slave.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/310643-REG/Speedotron_23504_DS_1_Digital_Slave_Trigger_.html

The Speedotron looks interesting. I may get one for myself. However I don't know how these slaves work with the 420EX. I have tried my 420EX and 550EX on a Hama optical slave with a film camera that in manual mode the camera does not fire a preflash. After each time the flash fired, the flash just don't fire again without turning it off then on again. But it works pretty well with my Metz flash.


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October 26, 2007

 

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Thanks, Andy.


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