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Grant W. Joseph
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/22/2007

Photo of the day

Where does the Photo of the Day rank in importance compared say to a second place or 1st place winner? I would like to hear your opinions especally the winners of the aboved mentioned question. Thanks GWJ

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7/30/2007 11:53:48 AM

Bob Cammarata
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/17/2003
  Only 30 (or so) POTD's are chosen from 25,000+ entries each month...vs. 110 winners and many hundreds of finalists from the same batch.

I think a POTD is more prestigious than a second place win (...though many POTD's do move on to earn a gold badge or at least a finalist anyway).

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7/30/2007 5:21:00 PM

Christopher Budny
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/3/2005
  I guess it could depend on whether the "statistics" of the various awards matter to you or not. ie, there are 365 Photo of the Day awards given out in a year... Those are pretty slim odds. While there are usually 100 (or so) Second Place awards given every month (so, 1,200 per year)... yet only 10 First Place per month (a third fewer handed out in a year, than total POTD's) and of course only 12 Grand Prize photos awarded per year... Take your pick as to which is most meaningful, if the limited number given out at each level, is an indication of worth.
Of course, a POTD is no guarantee it will also make it to a 2nd, 1st or Grand...
I say, enjoy each and every one you may get, at any of those levels, as a significant event for your photo! In all cases, they mean your photo really stood out from the crowd, when you consider 26,000 entries per month! ;)

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7/30/2007 5:28:51 PM

Nobu Nagase
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/31/2003
As far as statistics are concerned, Chris summarized it well.

There is another point to consider, however, that 1st, and 2nd places (and Grand) have gone through fairly extensive judging process to select quality work (artistic quality and/or technical quality). While POTD, as initially described, is an "awe-inspiring" image of the day, selected by the BetterPhoto staff from either the monthly photo contest or from the online courses.

I believe it depends on individual how one values the award, the one that has gone through the judging process for quality images or a sort of selection process by BP staff for an awe-inspiring image of the day.
Either way both are in high honor in BP community.

It's may be an interesting question, Grant, but alas, your targeted audience has not come through to respond beside the two above. I believe Bob who has won in both categories, says POTD. It may be just that others (who have been awarded in both) may never have thought of nor considered ranking them. (I have my own opinion but I lack in aforementioned qualification. )

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7/31/2007 9:07:04 PM

Jane M
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Might be different criteria for POTD too, rather than simply "the best". Like they want an even spread of subject matter, maybe a bias to humor or 'wow' factor (ie more visually striking rather than subtle)...
Disclaimer - I've never had a POTD :)

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8/1/2007 3:22:22 AM

Erin Tyler
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/30/2005
  I do have a POTD (though not a 2nd or 1st winner), I guess I've never thought about where it "stands" as far as rank. I do think they try to select out of the norm photos for POTD, regardless of other awards.

My POTD came after it was selected as a finalist, and after they announced winners. So while it definitely wasn't the best, as far as winning goes, there must have been something about it visually that BP wanted to show. I know that photo got more exposure than my other finalists (and more comments, lol).

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8/1/2007 9:16:54 AM

Connie J. Bagot
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/6/2005
  Betterphoto POTD is the be-all end-all highlight of existence.....wish I could get one!!!

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8/1/2007 10:28:54 AM

John P. Sandstedt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/8/2001
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  "...that 1st, and 2nd places (and Grand) have gone through fairly extensive judging process to select quality work (artistic quality and/or technical quality)."

Hey, Nobi - Where did you get that interesting piece of information? I asked Heather for some kind of write-up on the judging process used; I was told that that information wouldn't be disclosed.

And, to all . . . Remember that Second Place is FIRST LOSER. So, it would seem that POTD could be considered to be more prestigeous.

However . . . have you noticed that, on a given day, one [or two] of the BP-instructors provides answers to a lot of the day's questions. This might mean that that given day represents the instructor's turn in the barrel.

This is not to say the answers aren't great, correct, and the source of inspiration [if appropriate.] It simply means that the particular instructor might be monitoring the questions being asked.

If so, maybe that instructor is charged to select the image he/she sees on the particular day in the barrel. Seems logical - just a possible explanation.

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8/1/2007 11:04:13 AM

Nobu Nagase
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/31/2003
Hey John, I have a language problem,...
so, I pulled it out of the common sense hat...

IMHO (..hey John, just my humble opinion) it's not really that important or has much significance in ranking these honors. As I wrote above, all represent high honors to those who are participating in the contest and what not. The winners ought to be proud of the recognition they receive regardless of what they may be, Editor's First Picks, Potd, finalist, 1st, 2nd, and Grand prize.
...(Disclaimer to let John know that I'm not representing anyone, opinions are my own.)

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8/1/2007 12:54:02 PM

Nobu Nagase
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/31/2003
..hey, john, what I really meant is that in any contest, some kind of judging process take place, does it not? Is it not a common sense?

In BP's contest, I have read that there are more than one level of screening is done. I'm sure it is to select quality work, is it not? Combining the last two sentences, I used the phrase "extensive judging process".

Remember, I did not describe the process itself. I have no idea how the process works. I hope that is the part you are talking about. The process is what I understand "BP's unique way of judging" which they will not disclose. In the company (and comppanies) I worked for, it is called "confidential information".

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8/1/2007 2:40:05 PM

KV Day
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/25/2005
  Sorry, I have seen POTD get chosen and never make a finalist. To me it is no different than the editors pic. Just a photo someone found interesting. I have not always been impressed with what they choose. When I first came on the site I saw a rash of photos I had to ask "huh?" on why it got a POTD. But then again, I haven't been that impressed with a few grand prize winners either. Its all subjective

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8/2/2007 10:44:10 AM

Ron Sloan
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/1/2005
  I "luckily" have had an image chosen as POTD...however it never even made it as a finalist.I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder.I was pleased with the fact it was selected though.
(By the way Vicki have some awesome images in your gallery)

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8/2/2007 2:41:39 PM

Sandra Schlesinger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/3/2005
  Having three second place winners, one of which was a POTD, I agree with Nobi: the POTD awards seem to be for "awe-inspiring" images, images that may provoke discussion, meditation, inspiration, or who knows what else. For some reason I picture a panel of judges carefully viewing, weighing, and selecting the finalists and winners, while I see the POTD selection as less stringent. Of course I don't know what I'm talking about: the selection process remains a mystery to me!

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8/2/2007 6:18:48 PM

Carol Teal
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/19/2006
  Well, because you asked for "especially the winners of the aboved mentioned question", I will respond. My first-ever-anything on BP was a POTD. I am guessing it was chosen because it was unique, but next month it became a finalist, so maybe it was unique and fit other criteria (in which the specifics are unknown to me) to be chosen as a finalist. Then for the June contest, I won 2nd place, and then the photo was chosen for POTD. I can't say which I value more because I felt thrilled and honored to be chosen for all considering how many photos are entered each month. Never having a win before, the 2nd place win was really thrilling, but I can't truly say I feel my win is any more important than my POTD or vice versa. However, I would tend to agree with Christopher that a 1st place win or grand prize would rank higher because of the statistics. Also, I would guess the answer would vary according to the person.

And Christopher, you amaze me with your mathematical mind! I would guess you did great in math throughout school.

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8/3/2007 12:56:33 AM

Michael Skelton  . 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/16/2006
  Having never had a even a finalist but one POTD ,it would seem to me that POTD is more of a photo that catches one eye at first sight for being different. But not so much as an award winning photo. I have seen quite a few POTD that have also never got a finalist.

For me it means more that Im on the right path ,getting closer to where I want to be. It does make one feel good , but also feel I have a lot more work to do before I get there.

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8/5/2007 6:29:32 AM

Gregory LaGrange
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2003
  You guys can analyze the f out of fun.

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8/5/2007 3:43:52 PM

Tressie Davis
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/4/2006
  OMG Gregory, you're crackin' me up.

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8/8/2007 11:27:19 AM

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