 wildlifetrailphotography.com - Donald R. Curry  Contact Donald R. Curry Donald R. Curry's Gallery |
Velvia look from D200 settings I have just gone digital from a long time of film photography. How can I get the Velvia look with my D200? Does anyone have a setting recipe?
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W. |
Hi Donald, what do you mean by 'the Velvia look'? Because every darkroom gets different results.
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wildlifetrailphotography.com - Donald R. Curry Contact Donald R. Curry Donald R. Curry's Gallery |
I'm no expert on slide film development, but as I understand slide film cannot be changed by the lab. The results are set as to the way you took the shot. Velvia slide film is known for its saturation. I am looking for that same saturation. I have not been able to duplicate it to my satisfaction with the settings on the D200 or by PS.
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W. |
Afaik most camera's let you set saturation in the menus until it comes out of your ears! Certainly much, much fatter than Velvia ever did. Doesn't the D200?
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wildlifetrailphotography.com - Donald R. Curry Contact Donald R. Curry Donald R. Curry's Gallery |
Velvia has a certain look that I want to duplicate. I have not found a way to do it with any of the D200 settings. After further investigation since my initial question I found some information on this subject at http://www.betterphoto.com/article.php?id=108
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- Dennis Flanagan Contact Dennis Flanagan Dennis Flanagan's Gallery |
When you enhance your shots in Photoshop, do you saturate all colors at the same time, or do you play with each color seperately? You may have better look playing with each color.
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wildlifetrailphotography.com - Donald R. Curry Contact Donald R. Curry Donald R. Curry's Gallery |
I have been working with each color seperately. I just purchased the D200 last week. I guess I'm just going through a learning curve. I have been scanning slides and working with them in PS. Raw photos from the D200 react a little differently than what I am used to seeing. Velvia slides start out with more pop and saturation. It seems to take more effort to get the digital photos to the same point. After a little more tinkering hopefully I will catch on.Thanks for your response.
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Michael A. Bielat |
"Velvia" is a type of film (slide?) that replaced Kodachrome. Unfortunately, you would need a 20+ mpix camera to get results similar to what you are seeking... DUE TO ALL THAT DETAIL. You could look into getting a Mamiya or Hasselblad if you have $1000 to blow per megapixel or you could do the following to help: 1.) Shoot in RAW format. That is a digital negative and allows you to post process the white balance and exposure values if need be. You can also crank up the sharpness and color saturation if you choose. Hope this helps. Unfortunately, you will have to make due with faking what you are trying to accomplish. I would suggest brushing up on your photoshop techniques and search key words like: sharpness, color, vivid color, etc... on google and you will get a ton of free lessons...
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Mark Feldstein |
Well Donald, actually you can get many different types of appearances to E-6 slide film by having it processed in different ways, including Velvia, which BTW is now offered in two emulsion types, I believe. Start with an understanding that push processing adds contrast, while pull processing reduces contrast. I haven't any idea how that would translate to digitalspeak. WS might know. Also, using the proper color correction filtrations (on the lens) at the time you shoot is useful. Plus to get better color saturation with transparency stock you need to underexpose slightly, 1/4 or 1/3 of a stop is a good reference point for trying that. And, of course, you can get better or less saturation by underexposing PLUS pushing or pulling your film at the lab. In other words, there are a lot of possibilities to adjust and make changes in the processing that will impact color balance and saturation. With color negative films, overexposure usually gives you better saturation, usually something along the lines of 3/4 to 1 full stop, depends on the film. And, bear in mind that there are just some things that IMHO, digital cameras don't do well, like duplicating the results of high grade transparency films including Velvia, Ektachrome and Kodachrome emulsions. But let's not start THAT debate again. LOL !! Now, don't you miss your film camera?
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Jagadeesh Andrew Owens |
Alien Exposure is the best way to get different film looks, includes Velvia and about 400 other films. It eliminates all the experimenting with sliders and such. And you can tweak the settings for each "film". Great l'il program...
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Who Me? |
Kevin Kabota has 2 velvia actions that are pretty darn good. If your exposure isn't perfect you might have to tweak it a little after playing the action.
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W. |
"push processing adds contrast, while pull processing reduces contrast. I haven't any idea how that would translate to digitalspeak. WS might know." LOL!
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Jagadeesh Andrew Owens |
I forgot to tell you, I shoot a D200. The only way you're going to get Velvia-ish shots out of the camera is if you shoot JPG. Shooting in RAW overrides all the camera's "settings". If you want a Velvia-ish look to your jpgs, bump up everything under the Image Setting menu to vivid, high contrast, very sharp, etc. But I still maintain it's better to shoot in RAW and apply some Velvia action in Photoshop.
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Mark Feldstein |
Hey W.S. There are just some things in life I have no desire to become familiar with, in any way. Digital being one of them. ;>) M.
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William Schuette |
Donald, go to alienskin.com, you can download a fully functional version of Exposure for 30 days and try out its velvia emulation. I find that I get the best results when I use the filtered version as a layer over the original and reduce the opacity to about 50%. Bill
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wildlifetrailphotography.com - Donald R. Curry Contact Donald R. Curry Donald R. Curry's Gallery |
Thanks Guys for all the information, I'm sure I will get this worked out. I still carry my Nikon N90S with Velvia, so I can always get the look that way. I have only had a digital camera a week and I already like the convenience. So far I haven't found the same quality as film, but maybe some of that will come with more digital experience.
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Irene Troy |
Sometime last year, on this forum, I saw a posting about this same subject. One of the real pros here – I think it might have been Tony Sweet – contributed info on a digital “Velvia”. I tried it and really like it for many landscape type images. One warning: play with the settings before using them for the final print. Less is definitely more - it can go way overboard leaving the image looking false. Here’s the link: www.fredmiranda.com then look at the Velvia package. Irene
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wildlifetrailphotography.com - Donald R. Curry Contact Donald R. Curry Donald R. Curry's Gallery |
Thanks Irene
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- Gregory LaGrange Contact Gregory LaGrange Gregory LaGrange's Gallery |
I'd first go the route of setting blacks and whites with levels/curves.
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Raymond H. Kemp |
I think your best bet is to use a plug-in for Photoshop. I use one called Velvia Vision. It works great and only costs $25.00! Here is a link to take a closer look: http://www.steves-digicams.com/digsoftware_plugins.html Again, I'd go with a plug-in for Photoshop for it will give you much greater control and it is very easy to use. Ray
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