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Heather M. Wareham
 

WHAT THE EYE SEE'S.


What the eye see's isn't what the camera see's. When you take a picture does it take what you are seeing. Sometime Im looking through the woods and see something the catches my eye. I think it will be a great picture. I take the picture and when I get home it doesn't catch my eye the way it did when I seen it out side. What are the tricks to catch the picture right.


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March 11, 2007

 

W.
 
Reality and a picture of it are 2 different things. They'll never be the same.
Comparing pictures with other pictures is fair.
Comparing pictures with reality isn't.


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Who Me?
  "use the force"


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Irene Troy
 

W is correct; our eyes see much more than even the best camera lens can see. Part of the reason is that we do not just use our eyes to see – our brain takes in everything about a scene; the actual image, the setting and even the “feel” and that is interpreted into what we see. I’m pretty sure that every photographer here has had the experience that you speak of: seeing something amazing, taking a great shot and getting back home only to be disappointed because what the eye saw is not what the camera delivered.

Keep in mind some of these factors when trying to capture a great image:
• Time of day matters greatly – some subjects photograph much better when the sun is not directly overhead. Strong, contrasty light, the type you see around noon on a sunny day, is rarely good for image making.
• Depth of field (DOF) [the amount of the image that is clearly in focus] is extremely important. Our eyes coupled with our brain filter out extraneous junk; the camera lens cannot do this without our help. If you are attempting to photograph a small object, your need to use a shallow depth of field setting to isolate the object from the surroundings. You also need to decide how much of the area surrounding the subject should be included in order to tell the image’s “story”.
• While our eyes can adjust to most types of light, the camera lens sees all light in shades of gray. Learning to properly expose for varying types of light is, IMHO, the most important lesson in learning to make good images. You have to learn to “read” light in order to use the light to the best advantage of your subject. Personally, I think this may be a life long learning curve.
• Closely related to DOF is the reach of your lens. Your eyes may easily see something at considerable distance and, again couple with your brain, place it clear and distinct against the surroundings. Every lens has a limit to its reach at clarity. A 400mm lens is great for capturing the image of a bird in the distance, but not much use for shooting an image of a mushroom on the floor of the forest; a 65mm will capture close up subjects but is not much use for capturing a distant mountain. You can also get into a very long and very heated argument with people over the issue of “glass” meaning the quality of individual lenses. Everyone has their own personal favorite “glass”, but you should know that in many cases, you do get what you pay for when buying better (more expensive) glass

There are many factors influencing the quality of an image, including composition, exposure, even choice of subject; however, hopefully, some of this will at least put you on the right track.

Irene



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March 11, 2007

 

Heather M. Wareham
  Irene thanks so much for you help. I understand what your saying. Thanks


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March 11, 2007

 

Mike Rubin
  Irene provided great info and advice.
I would just like to add that our eyes see things in 3D, A camera lens is like one eye and cannot see depth so you need to create a sense of depth in the image, composition plays a big part in this. For instance if you have trees in the foreground and in the background. The trees in the background will seem smaller although they are really the same height, A winding river going into the images and may seem to narrow down as it gets farther away. These help to create a sense of Depth in your image. Background and foreground interest helps convey depth.
Of course there are times you want to isolate your subject from the background to create a creative image of the subject,such as a flower.


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March 11, 2007

 

Michael A. Bielat
  I personally think it is more of seeing the "potential" of what is around you than actually trying to reproduce everything that the others have mentioned.

What really gets you to be a better photographer is finding the potential somewhere that has no interest to you or is not very visually appealing.


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  The camera sees what you saw. Except for the extra detail and stuff like that. It's just your perception changes when you put it on a border piece of paper.


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John P. Sandstedt
  The Heretic speaks again:

Your camera sees much more than the human eye and it sees it "like it is." That is, there is NO INTERPRETATION."

The human eye adjusts to lighting, selectively focuses at sepcific points, does its own cropping, and edits - edits - edits. And, that's exactly the reason the photogrpaher needs to use the entire view finder on his camera and look all around the picture, in front of and behind the main subject.

If the human eye were really infallible, as is implied in some the previous responses, a beautiful girl would never, ever have a tree growing out of her head. And, images would always be perfectly composed.

As to lighting, the human eye automatically adjusts to the available lighting. Why are we able to see so well [or at all] at night?

We rarely notice the subtle light changes during the day's progression from morning to afternoon - but the camera surely does - and that's why the recommendation is to shoot mainly before 10:00 AM and after 3:30 PM - Never at noon! Rent the movie "Dances with Wolves," and then ask yourself how there could ALWAYS be such beautiful shadows at all times and in every scene?

You need to take steps to allow the camera it's best chance to produce the picture you believe is there but, in fact, without a little help [like a polarizing filter, selective focus, etc.,] will NEVER take.

That's why I said in many threads, it's not the camera that MAKES the picture, it's the photographer. And, because of this fact, it doesn't matter which camera the photographer uses, especially since all cameras are the same - a black box to hold a lens and a memory card or roll of film. All of the gadgets on today's sophisticated cameras simply make it easier to take [NOT MAKE] a picture. But, the simplest of cameras [perhaps, with merely a zoom lens lens (as in point and shoot)] can be used to MAKE a winning photograph.

ANd, if you ever think about just a snapshot, throwaways do a pretty decenet job - if proer care is taken.

The art of seeing photographically is just part of the equation. The photographer must then use his creativity and knowledge of how his camera works, to produce that winning image. ANd, if s/he is shooting in digital, a little help from Photoshop or another editing program just might be needed.

The Heretic says, "Good Day!"


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March 12, 2007

 

Heather M. Wareham
  Thank for all your Imput. I am starting to see the light. LOL what you have all said makes sence. Thanks again for all your thought.


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