 Rafik B.Mohamed Ksontini |
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John Rhodes |
Rafik, both shots are really underexposed due to the very short shutter speed. Try to reshoot with the correct exposure as indicated by your camera. Shooting in RAW gives more room for recovering detials lost in the shadows, but the shot should be captured as close as possible to the best exposure possible in-camera. John
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Samuel Smith |
ah rafik, you may be asking a question that only you have an answer. I may see a start in the life cycle of an almond tree,or a part of or just a flower. now as john said he thought they were underexposed.now I believe you are not worried about exposure to a point,but yet to a point in time or something close to it. is there a way,,as I think your trying to do,capture time?i guess I would have to say yes.but it is only that the individual photographer that takes the photograph would understand why we took the photo.but to convey that message is only what a few strive for. I could never capture the caring and companionship of my last dog. many capture the suffering of a community after a tragic event,the killings between different religious sects,or maybe just a disagreement between two brothers who may not speak again for years. I don't believe through your photography you can deliver a message without some hint as to your goal.without at least a story,by-line or poem to reflect your intent. people don't see the same message in a photograph,time or otherwise. as we don't see their message.and yes I agree ,some really have no clue as to a message or intent to convey an idea. but,is that a fault?i can't surmise or agree with that. am I even close,sam
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- Gregory LaGrange Contact Gregory LaGrange Gregory LaGrange's Gallery |
How can I read them as in how they look? Too dark as everyone else said. How can I read them as in what do I get from them? Don't get anything from them. It's just a regular snapshot of a flower. Didn't portray it in anyway that would bring out any feeling about how it's shaped or looks. Looks like you walked up, took a picture, walked away. Like documenting evidence that there was a flower there.
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Samuel Smith |
i even wondered if that they were shot at 300mm might be a clue? a little more info rafik,sam
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Rafik B.Mohamed Ksontini |
Hi Sam, Yes you've got reason when you noticed that I'm looking for "Time". It's here when the spring will begin. About these shots, I use 300 mm (in classic lens = 135mm: it's marked on the lens) and may be + macro. why I say "may be"?: Because when I'm trying to shoot I don't need the LCD of the camera , however, I usually use the view-finder. In fact, I don't verify if I've touched "Macro buttom". All what I remember that flowers are further on my lens.(ther is a big distance between flowers and lens. I'm sure for this.) I'll try it again and I'll verify the macro option, but I'll never obtain the same "time". Now I can ask an other question: If these shots become in grayscale mode, can we read the same things? And what about transform, especially when we make some adjusments by photoshop? try to imagine. Friendly Rafik.
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Kai Eiselein |
I think Rafik may be asking if there is any way to adjust the photos. I think he was trying to capture when the flowers were at the height of their bloom and won't be able to try to get a better shot.
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Samuel Smith |
no kai,he was not looking for the correct exposure.he is asking about the capture of time,and that other photographers have a great interest in it. well,that's my take.
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Rafik B.Mohamed Ksontini |
Hi Kai, getting a correct exposure with digital camera is too easy. Making adjustements with photoshop is even easier. Sam has understood very well what I'm looking for. When we shoot, we can stop "time". It's the end winter refered to by the flowers for instance. It's 26 January 2007. It's about 9 AM... But who can prove that? And if we turn it to grayscale mode, are we keeping the same indices refering "time"? also, when we make any other adjustements: Can shot keep the same expression related to this tense? This is a big problem with this philosophy!
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Bob Cammarata |
In order to demonstrate a sense of time, the images need more "information". If your intent was to convey "the coming of spring", maybe a close-up of an early spring growth pushing up through a frozen earth would be more effective. Quite often, story-telling images will mean more to the photographer than to the viewer. The person taking the shot was THERE and knows exactly what he or she was thinking or feeling at the instant that shutter was depressed.
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Rafik B.Mohamed Ksontini |
Thank you Bob for your ineterest.I think the images that convey "the coming of going differs from one region to another in Tunisia we do not witness cold weather. As for the rest I totally agree with you.
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Samuel Smith |
my interest rafik,is the chasing of light. where are the colors and the timing so much,as you say time,so much a critical factor,as the capture of a scene? some say I was just there once.this is what I came up with.can I do better? how can I fix this? I can't appluad you for your goal,or even say I agree with it or denounce it,but I can chime in and say I respect your goal. yet a question?before I respond to a question I check galleries and bio. that my basketball team has won 3 straight games should mean what?after the game I ask about their grades. and after I photograph?could i,i have done better? never make it easy on yourself,sam
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Stacy L. Robertson |
wow, I am confused, I was very nice and tried to help Rafik with his questions about his images and even sent him an e-mail. He responded and said his english was terrible, I couldn't even understand what he was trying to say "type" to me. But on this thread his english seems more than perfect. Hmmm, I wonder??????????
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Rafik B.Mohamed Ksontini |
Yes sam, light is a capital element in photography. Sometimes can give notion of "Time" especially when the subjet move or play. We'll certainly stop this. But when we fix it can we read date as a piont in year (for instance)? however we can read the part in that day such as: "morning, afternoon, night... " but in covered stadium can't read exactly this periode of day because there is an artificial light. Are you agree with me? and what about b/w photo in this case? In your galery Sam, there is many interesting things related to this notion, but try sam to convert some shot to the b/w with photoshop and make some adjustements if you and than ask the same questions. In fact can you do better with each part of "time"? every shooter can ask himself : what's our goal when we are looking for better shot? and why do we fix shot in color mode or in b/w one? rafik
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Rafik B.Mohamed Ksontini |
Hi Stacy, I've usually some problems to explane my request and need help especially my wife is an english teacher, However I'm usually trying to discuss in this forum because I find it very helpful to my english and knowledge in photography.
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Rafik B.Mohamed Ksontini |
Stacy, can you usually think for "time" when you shoot?
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Samuel Smith |
hello again rafik, I do not see in b/w. stark in nature to me,easy to cover up mistakes and exposure. to me it is a close to death expierence.why rape a photo of color? to steal a bit of color,to try and change the light,to lessen or enhance soft or harsh light.of course I don't know a photo program or have a clue as to my own developing of my film. on a cloudy day I see a bleak sense of my surroundings,to me only,maybe,that is b/w.frozen at maybe 10 degrees or even less,and things perish. many things have a great influence on a photographers,say,outlook or perception,of capture. I enjoy your take on this.sure my brain hurt for a while to figure some of this out,but it wasn't about equiptment or photo program,but yet an idea. more of what I think this site should be about,sam
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Stacy L. Robertson |
Cool, I am so glad that was cleared up cause I really was interested in your photography! You have a neat sense of it. I do think for time when I shoot, I just shoot when I want. Thanks for understanding.
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Rafik B.Mohamed Ksontini |
Yes Sam, what you say is very interesting especially when you see this conversion into BW that it is a violate. Of my share I see that the numerical photograph is based on the final improvement since its birth. indeed the traditional photograph (silver) is a true image as certain philosophers say it because it immortailse the trace of time forever, however that the numerical one allows the modification constantly and anyhow and therefore I always put myself the question keep us to it even truth during this conversion into BW. photoshop with my direction evoked several questioning and problems in the notion of time. be you of acord with me? Have to be noticed that certain photographs which gain the contest of betterphoto.did COM lose the notion of time? I have twists? (translated by http://traduction.translated.net)
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Rafik B.Mohamed Ksontini |
It is true Stacy whom you shoot when you want and every photographer also make the same I think, but the problem are we giving a big importance at this "crucial" moment what we call in term of photography instantanious? Are frame, composition, blur, depth ... all our occupation in shooting?
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Rafik B.Mohamed Ksontini |
Hello again Stacy, I visited your gallery and I find what you are making is just in term of photography. Nevertheless, this could have a relation with the notion of "time" little present thing(matter) in your photos. To my opinion you can always photograph the subjects simple as you say it in your bio but by hunting(by chasing away) more and more the unpredictable moments which never occur second time. Are you agree with me? friendly Rafik.
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Samuel Smith |
i am in accord rafik, but don't alienate a specific gallery. i know it's not your intent,but offense may be taken. I don't consider the conversion of a photo to b/w a violation.just a change I don't understand.the same as with photo programs that add color or whatever.not really my call.i have an opinion,and most know it,but it is just that. so maybe you say I need to voice my opinion on all shots as the changing of time?oh boy.all have the liberty to change their photos. even if the actual photo wasn't as captured,and I know those settings aren't going to capture the scene?i am not the photo police. maybe it's that only when we grow older do we question such things,sam
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Rafik B.Mohamed Ksontini |
Admittedly, I do not intend to align a specific gallery. Indeed I want just that you reflect on this phenomenon and these problems of “time”. It ya of criticisms of art which considered that the final improvement of the digital images is a violation of instantaneous photographic and I believed that you announce those which say it because for me I share their opinion to them although any photographer is free of what he wants to do and I usualy respect them with any sincerity. I believe Sam that my much interested subject of photographers. I owe him all my respect. I thank speaker very on this subject because I what is called needed the assistance on “the collective intelligence” as Pierre Livy sees it and who binds it with the numerical practices and the communication outdistances on the Net. It is a French writer and a university professor. I invite by this occasion all shooters if they can read the same things in new joined shots? I found the idea of forum is most effective for my thesis thanks to the open discussion which was a little hard because of my English and the ergonomics of the Betterphoto site.Com. Thanks, Rafik french version:Bonjour Sam, Certes, je n'ai pas l'intention d'aligner une galerie spécifique. En effet je veux just que vous refléchissiez sur ce phénomène et cette problèmatique du "temps". Il ya des critiques d'art qui ont considéré que la retouche des images numériques est une violation de l'instantané photographique et j'ai cru que vous faites part de ceux qui le disent parce que pour moi je leur partage leur opinion bien que tout photographe est libre de ce qu'il veut faire et je les respecte avec toute sincérité. Je crois Sam que mon sujet interésse beaucoup de photographes. Je lui dois tout mon respect. Je remercie tout intervenant à ce sujet parce que j'avais besoin de l'aide sur ce qu'on appelle "l'intelligence collective" comme le voit Pierre Livy et qui le lie avec les pratiques numériques et la communication distance sur le net. C'est un écrivain français et un professeur universitaire.Par cette occasion je profite de poser la nouvelle quetion avec les nouvelles photos ci-joint si on peut relire la même chose avec ces nouvelles fleurs? J'ai trouvé l'idée de forum est la plus efficace pour ma thèse grace à la discussion ouverte qui était un peu dure à cause de mon anglais et l'ergonomie du site Betterphoto.com. Thanks, Rafik
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