 Tiffany Chance |
No BS Photosuccess.com--legit? Hi, this is my first forum question and I hope i'm doing it right. Has anyone done business with this site? I want to get better in photography. I stumbled onto this site. But I am heistant on spending money on their products. The site says I will instantly improve my skills. Likewise, if this is not a good site, are there other sites you would recommend I try? I want to learn more about weddings and portraits. And outdoor photography. Well, everything. Maybe the answer is to look into the BetterPhoto seminars and information. Please help me make an educated decision. Thank you. Tiffany
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Irene Troy |
Hi Tiffany and welcome to BP! I think that you will find this site to be a friendly and helpful place – I know that I do! I am not familiar with the site that you mention; however, I am more than a little wary of any site/book/seminar/etc. that promises instant results. Frankly, like most things in life, learning photography is a journey from beginning to expert and beyond. There are no shortcuts – at least none that I am aware of – if there are some, please someone let me know! To learn photography, to really learn it so that you can rely on your own skills to produce a consistent level of quality that you are pleased with, takes time and effort. The site that you posted seems just a little fishy to me, although that is probably not fair since I do not do that type photography; however, again, the promise of instant knowledge, while appealing, rarely brings you what you want. As to the seminars offered here at BP – that is something I do know about. I have taken 6 classes here at BP and have learned a great deal in each class. My own photography has improved dramatically since that first class two years ago. I’m a writer and am now able to sell myself as a writer/photographer which is really cool. I honestly believe that BP is at least partially responsible for my success. It is not just the classes, it is the people here who know so much and who, for the most part, are very open and willing to share their knowledge and experience with newbies. Anyway, this is my 2 cents and hopefully it will be of some help. Irene
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Mark Feldstein |
Howdy Tiff. I'm with Irene as to any one, any place or any outfit that promises instant results is usually full of the very thing their site emphasizes in big bright red letters on the first page: BS (which I'm assuming does not stand for bachelors of science). They're using a lot of glitz and glitter but I don't see much, if any, substance. Essentially, as they say in advertising, they're selling the sizzle and not the steak. And as Irene indicates, that whole site doesn't pass the smell test. You don't need an instructor(s) who are so full of themselves that they can't see the work of their students because of their ego hangovers. Besides, the first rule for professional photographers, of any caliber, is Never, ever believe your own press releases, which seems exactly what these guys did/do. Here's what I would recommend. First, define what you already know about photography and what you want to become better at. Then decide. Maybe instead of taking online courses, even like those here at BP, try to find a photog intro class or two at a local junior college or university. Real live classrooms are better because of the direct interraction and feedback you have with other students plus the instructor. There are no shortcuts to becoming a good or even an excellent photographer. It's a state of mind along with a desire, a passionate desire, to create through a sense of creative vision that others might not share. That type of drive or desire is melded to various technical skills through the equipment we use, even if it's as simple as a pinhole camera, to achieve a repeatable, predictable type of result. You don't learn that instantly by any means. You have to work at it. And, I've been at this professionally for about 32 years and trust me, I'm STILL learning something new about it nearly every day. Meanwhile, you have a free resource here, friendly people, lots of knowledge to take advantage of although I have to say the food here is really lousy. /;>0)
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Samuel Smith |
hilarious.
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- Gregory LaGrange Contact Gregory LaGrange Gregory LaGrange's Gallery |
hisam, how you doing?
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Tiffany Chance |
Irene and Mark, thank you for taking the time to respond. Samuel, I'm not sure why this is hilarious, but I'm learning.
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Christopher A. Vedros |
In addition to the "there are no shortcuts" concerns raised by Irene and Mark, I see two big problems that would keep me from sending them my money. 1. I found several typos on their website. 2. They're Canadians. Need I say more? ;-) Chris A. Vedros Footnote: I apologize if any Canadians were offended by the above message. Learn to take a joke, eh?
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Samuel Smith |
welcome tiffany, instantly improve is a suckers line,i'll show you the trade secrets for x amount of dollars.rapid weight loss... I saw an add for a solar powered clothes dryer several years back,it turned out to be a clothes line. hilarious/the food here is lousy!i hadn't thought of that. debby tabb has many studio lighting threads,and I mean many.. there's a conctructive critique section you might want to check out,either for your own photos or see recommendations for others photos. you can graze through many galleries and when you find a photo with a certain look,like a portrait,i'm sure if you ask the photographer how they achieved it,they will gladly help. and my remark was before the war with canada,sam
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Joe English |
First of all as far as them being Canadians being a put down, perhaps we should look at their track record on Foriegn policy and health care reform. BTW the programs have given me INSTANT improvement in my photography. I learn something new each day with them. It has a money back gaurantee ! What more could you ask for? Who else in the industry is going to give you that?
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