 Robyn Gwilt |
Saving JPEGs - Format?? Once I've finished working on a pic and hit 'Save' (PSE4), there a couple of options - I select Quality - 12 Max, then theres a box underneath : Format Options * Baseline (standard) * Baseline (optimised) * Progressive What does this mean, and what should I select for best print quality? If I click on Progressive, then it allows me to select a number of 'scans' HUH?? I've always used Baseline (Standard) and 12 Max, but wonder what the others do? Thanks
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Brendan Knell |
Robyn, I'm also curious about this. When I selected each of these, Baseline(Standard) gave me the highest file size, and Progressive the smallest. So I'm guessing that Baseline(Standard) is the best and least compressive one.
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chrisbudny.com - Chris Budny Contact Chris Budny Chris Budny's Gallery |
Maybe this will help shed some light; found it in the online Help (for PSE2): ++Baseline ("Standard"): a format that is recognizable to most Web browsers. ++Baseline Optimized: optimize the color quality of the image and produce a slightly smaller file size. This option is not supported by all Web browsers. ++Progressive: to create an image that displays gradually as it is downloaded to a Web browser--in a series of scans (you specify how many) showing increasingly detailed versions of the entire image. Progressive JPEG images files are slightly larger in size, require more RAM for viewing, and are not supported by all applications and Web browsers.
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Justin G. |
Here is an article desribing Baseline JPG.
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chrisbudny.com - Chris Budny Contact Chris Budny Chris Budny's Gallery |
PS Robyn... went to email you via "Contact" and it was returned undeliverable. Just wanted to add that if you don't *need* jpg's abilities to create tiny file sizes, you may want to consider switching to say, TIFF, for a loss-less format.
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Robyn Gwilt |
THanks Justin and Chris - Chris, my stupid server seems to reject stuff from BP (to my home addy), but I guarantee it'll be on my work email in the morning (its 0615 and I've just woken, seen this message, but not the email), so thanks I'll get it later.
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John P. Sandstedt |
Although your camera may take the picture in JPEG format, after you transfer it to your computer you should immediately AND BEFORE ANY EDITING re-save it as a PSD or TIFF file. Both of these formats allow editing sessions to be interrupted [with the image being worked on to be saved without image-quality issues.] PSD is the nature Photoshop format and offers some distinct advantages. Usually a PSD file will be slightly smaller than than a TIFF file. But, more importantly, if you need to interrupt an editing session in which you're using Layers, all the layers will be saved and, when you return to your session, you're all set to go!
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Robyn Gwilt |
Thanks Chris and John - I think I need to get my head out of an automatic JPEG save, and start using PSD, John when I've finally absolutely finished, no more changes, do I flatten image and save as...? JPEG or TIFF? Justin, I still need to go and read your links. Thanks
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Robyn Gwilt |
Gosh Justin, just visited the first link - I think you need to add sugar, butter and beat well!!! Holy Wack, who writes this stuff????? I'm not even going to the 2nd one, as its making me feel cerebrally inferior! Thanks anyway. Maybe Chris will see this, and tell it to us in Dummy Language!!
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John P. Sandstedt |
Correct. Flatten the image when editing [via layers] is done. ' I use JPEG only to create small files for e-mailing. I save all my "finals" in PSD or TIFF - to CD-RW. Never can say when I might want to continue or adjust the "edit." But, once the image is flattened and you think you finished, you can save it to JPEG to save hard disk or CD-R space. Note that afile with Layers can get huge. When I sand a negative or print with the intention of making a 13X19 print, I create a file that ranges from 40-100 MB. If I use layer, the size of the file increase by almost that much - two layers, up to 200 MB. The file grows quickly. So, when I'm done with the Layers portion I flatten immediately. Don't know what'll happen in the future, I'm eagerly awaiting my new Canon 30D.
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chrisbudny.com - Chris Budny Contact Chris Budny Chris Budny's Gallery |
John, let me know how it goes with the 30D... that is on my radar for a late-summer upgrade.
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Robyn Gwilt |
John, I d/l from my camera, and IMMEDIATELY save the pix, as is to a DVD. I then work on another set., which is my 'editing' set. I usually don't close the pic till I'm done, but I see your point. I have a 200g memory on my desk top - you must have a gazillion gigs!! Do you take your pix in for printing, is 200MB your final size? Or do you print yourself? Chris stop bragging about that 30D......!!!!! Grrr :)
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John Rhodes |
Robyn, I'll echo what others have said about which file format to use--Most important-shoot in RAW and let the raw converter program convert the edited file to TIFF. If you must shoot in JPEG, use the largest file size possible (least compression) and convert to TIFF before doing any editing. Save the TIFF file in a folder called "originals" and work on a copy of that file. John
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John P. Sandstedt |
I have a iGIG hard drive. I download final pictures to CD-RW. I print my own - used Canon S-800 for a long time. My son got me the Canon i9900 for Christmas. It makes great pictures, up to 13X19 [borderless if one uses ther Canon printing program. From Photoshop, the largest I've been able to make is 12.5X118.5 - plenty big enough. The Treasurer, of the Camera Club to which I belong, and I checked out a number of printers to get for the club. He concurred that the i9900 was the best buy for our purposes. We estimate that, at a price of ~$1.00-1.25/sheet of photopaper [Staples Super, Ilford Galaxie Pearls, Kodak Ultima (at Sams Club)], we can produce a 13X19 for about $4.00. So if our estimate is wrong, by 100%, the cost is only $8.00 - much cheaper than the $22-28.00 I been quoted by several printing services.
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Brendan Knell |
"Most important-shoot in RAW and let the raw converter program convert the edited file to TIFF." This is what I've been trying to do, at least shooting in RAW. It's sometimes hard too though when it takes my camera 8 seconds to write the picture though. John, you say to have your RAW converter convert it to TIFF, do you know if PS does as good of a job? Becaus Sony's converter takes FOREVER to converte them.
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Gena L. Talbot |
Hi all... today I was at my son's baseball game and had my canon 20D set in JPEG format but then half way through the game I decided to change it to RAW. Now that I am home I have tried to upload them to my computer and all it is reading is one picture. And I know that I took at least 30 if not more in JPEG and then when I switched over to RAW I took another 20+. But the computer is only showing ONE picture in my camera. I turned the camera off and looked at the view finder and all the pictures are in the camera but I am so lost on how to get them to upload. PLEASE HELP!!!! lol lol I am thinking I did something very wrong. :( Thank goodness they were only practice shots of my sons game. Still getting down this manual setting. :) It's HARD! lol lol If anyone can help I would dearly appreciate it. Thank you so much. Mrs. G
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Brendan Knell |
Gena, what are you using to download your pics?
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Gena L. Talbot |
Goodmorning Brendan, Well... in the past before trying jpeg I just opened my pictures and selected the area that read download pictures from a camera. I didn't have to do anything other then that. I do have pscs2 but didn't think I could directly download to that program. Can you tell I am such a rookie. lol lol Just got pscs2 about a month ago and am still in the learning process of that too. lol I do have other programs on my dell computer but have never used them. Maybe I should huh? lol Let me know what you think. If you don't mind. Thank you :)
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Brendan Knell |
Gena, From what I can tell, you're using Windows XPs downloader. My guess is that Windows XP doesn't support RAW. I don't think that CS2 has an organiser, but do you have something else that does, like Adobe Elements, or Adobe Album? BTW, what other programs do you have on your computer, maybe you could use them?
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Gena L. Talbot |
Brendan, I just found my Canon EOS 20D Digital Software and installed it. I have now opened all of the pictures and see that I can save them in Tiff format. :) I am kind of worried about my camera tho... I am having a problem with blurry shots. I just bought a light meter and thought it might help me with the manual settings but I was wrong. I thought with shooting RAW and fixing them in PSCS2 would make it easier but still no luck. Is photography always this hard? lol I want to thank you for helping. It's nice to have someone help out. :) Have a great night. Gena
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