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Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
 

Children Photography, Poses & Enhancement in PS #2


Not sure if this will work, BUT I'm trying to start a second thread for Suzy on the CHILDREN PHOTOGRAPHY, POSES & ENHANCEMENTS IN PS!!!

Alisha


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2/20/2006 2:33:29 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Just checking in...


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2/20/2006 2:36:29 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Way cool!

Thank you Alisha

Suzy


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2/20/2006 2:45:37 PM

 
Nicole E. Rappaport
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/4/2004
  thank you Alisha! I am checking in here, but I am way behind from the other thread! :) hehehe

i do want to say a quick thank you for the information on the "L" series lenses, I am going to order one tonight! I will be anxious for it to get here!! :)


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2/20/2006 2:56:55 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Just Checking in . .. I don't do alot of the Extensive PS work ...but I did have a shoot today of a 6mo and a 9mo the other day if anyone wants to take a look. .. Happy Monday.. ..


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2/20/2006 3:08:22 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  OMGOSH Michelle! They are the cutest! My favorite is your whole setup with the little cowboy...I am still laughing cause that was the cutest thing EVER! I like the bandana wrapped around his diaper. Clever idea! WAAAAAAYYYY CUTE!!!!!!!

Alisha


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2/20/2006 3:15:09 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  I'm here......Miss Loudmouth. LOL

Is it Deb with the little boy name Jack?? I love the pics of him in his yellow rubber boots. He looks exactly like my son Nathan. He's always wearing his yellow rubber boots. Even to church. lol

I love the pics that have been posted. Beautiful!!


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2/20/2006 3:28:32 PM

 
Kristin Franke
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  Hi ladies...I've been reading your posts in this thread for a few days now and finally have had a second to comment. This is a great thread w/great ideas! I have a posing-related question, I hope that's ok...

I was wondering if anyone has any ideas for a shoot with a 15 month old and 3 yr old. Its my first real paying shoot and the mom wants them to be dressed in sweaters for their winter pictures. I have a small studio w/one strobe, a speedlite, a large window and white, black & mottled brown backdrops. I do have a pink furry rug and hot pink tulle, but I think one of them is a boy. I have very little in the way of props and I have no idea what kind of poses to do. I definitely love to use PS and will likely do some b&w, sepia and coloring after the fact, but I am so new to this and usually shoot candids. Any ideas?

Thanks so much in advance and I hope to join you ladies in this thread!

Kristin


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2/20/2006 3:48:12 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Hi Kristin....I'm not very good about the whole posing thing cause I myself just like to shoot "the moment", BUT what I do before I do any shoot is look at A LOT of websites for inspiration. I can e-mail you some websites I have in my favorites if you would like.

Alisha


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2/20/2006 3:59:48 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  thanks for the new thread alisha!
just checking in!


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2/20/2006 4:11:05 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  oh my gosh...MICHELLE...those are the most adorable pics!!I LOVE them, I bet mommy is thrilled. you did a great job!


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2/20/2006 4:14:04 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Hi guys,

wow, great thread. I've been away and am trying to catch up. getting motion sickness scrolling through all this!! lol
so much good stuff though.
someone on last thread was talking about collages... she posted one with 9 pics on it. told how she did it. the part where she talked about getting the "grid" to show...how do you do that? I didn't know there was a grid!!!! I 've been eyeballing it!
and Alisha.. that bride before and after shot... wow. you did great fixing it.
Erinn


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2/20/2006 4:26:39 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Just checking in!

Thanks Tonya for the embossing idea...I'm going to definitely try that!


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2/20/2006 4:27:50 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Erinn,
go to view
go to snap
then grid
I hope this helps.
I have ps7 and that is how I get them.
good luck


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2/20/2006 4:40:05 PM

 
Kristin Franke
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  Alisha,
thanks...that would be awesome! my email is klanderson@wi.rr.com

THANKS!


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2/20/2006 5:17:59 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Checking in!

I want to try a grid too... thanks for the tips debby!

The babies are adorable Michelle! What a great set of photos for mom to look at!


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2/20/2006 5:35:04 PM

 
Ruben L. Wade
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/2/2005
 
 
   Quinceniera
Quinceniera
aperture 22, shutter1/200, ISO 200, lens 17-85, location In home w/ 3 light system enhanced w/express digital darkroom AE.
© Ruben L. Wade
Canon EOS 20D Digi...
 
 
I need some constructive critiques. Let her rip guys!


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2/20/2006 5:50:03 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Ruben, I like the pose, the lighting (I would like for Debbie to comment on) but I am just wondering why on my monitor there is so much pixels open? I like to shoot at ISO 100 and at 125 and it renders great sharpness but I do not know what can be achieve with your lighting. Could you shoot with 125 and ISO 100?

Suzy


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2/20/2006 6:09:42 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Michelle- Those cowboy pics are so so so so so adorably gorgeous!!! I love them so much!!! Awesome job!!!


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2/20/2006 6:34:53 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Thanks everyone for the compliments.. . This is one of the babies on my First Year program and so I've been visioning this since I took his pics at 3 months. Suzy I think you asked me about the props. . . the saddle I've had for about 15 years but mykids never rode horses so it's just been in the barn .. the hat and boots the mom brought.. . I had the bandanas, hay and fence that I just picked up here and there. . . the horse I just bought this morning at our little dime store .. . I loved them and think she will too. He was really good for about 30 minutes then we had to take a break .. . she had one more outfit but he was just tooo out of it by the time we got to it. I think she will be happy with these.


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2/20/2006 6:43:36 PM

 
Deb Brown
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/20/2003
  OH, there you guys are! I forgot if I didn't check in with the new thread, I wouldn't get any emails...duh- LOL.
Yes, Dawn, that's my Jack...and I thought my daughter was the clothes horse- gees! How can kids get so opinionated about clothes at such an early age?! Michelle, that is some little cowboy you captured...Mom's gotta love the images!


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2/20/2006 6:45:54 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  I don't know if any of you are still watching the sudio photo thread,,,so...I posted some test light pics over there, those of you that do studi lighting, could you take a look and tell me what you think? Debby told me to post them, I guess so others could see too. I just want to be sure I have a good beginning setup working


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2/20/2006 6:54:02 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Hello guys, I am having problems with Yahoo and nothing is coming in. It seems like I am going to be doing my first pay job and I am going to be looking into compositions. Sooo, I may be looking for volunteers to help me. ;) Alisha and Michelle, I will take prisoners if necessary!! :)

I am trying to achieve different looks and I am getting exhausted so anything looks good by now. But I caount on my friends to tell me if I over did it.

Here is my pastel look.

Suzy


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2/20/2006 8:33:54 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Hello guys, I am having problems with Yahoo and nothing is coming in. It seems like I am going to be doing my first pay job and I am going to be looking into compositions. Sooo, I may be looking for volunteers to help me. ;) Alisha and Michelle, I will take prisoners if necessary!! :)

I am trying to achieve different looks and I am getting exhausted so anything looks good by now. But I caount on my friends to tell me if I over did it.

Here is my pastel look.

Suzy


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2/20/2006 8:34:26 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Quick question....how do you do sepia tones on a picture in PS? I have no problem with b/w, just not sure how to do sepia.


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2/20/2006 8:57:55 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Your pastel look is beautiful Suzy ... it is one of my favorites so far.. . . where do you get yoru backdrops???


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2/20/2006 9:16:30 PM

 
Ruben L. Wade
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/2/2005
  Hi Suzy! It might be the soft focus effects that were given to the pic'. they aren't PS. The picture lookes better on my computer than on BP. Wonder Why?


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2/20/2006 11:25:34 PM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
  Just checking in - Christine - if you email me at robyn@cinet.co.za I'll pick it up at home later and send you some stuff I'v picked up


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2/21/2006 12:09:11 AM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Christine - Image > Adjustments > Hue/Saturation and bring the saturation all the way down.

Then go to Image > Adjustements > Variations (at the very bottom) then click on More Yellow and then More Red. Et voila! You have sepia.

That's how I do it anyway. :)

Suzy - I really like the ballerina photo but I think it's definitely a matter of taste on the filter you used. I say show them both choices (original and filtered) and see which one they prefer.


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2/21/2006 4:24:27 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Hey all . . . Congrats to those who made finalists at BP . . . once again no luck for me . . . I just don't have what it takes for these contests. . . oh well . .. my wins come when my customers are happy :-)

Christine . . . I can't remember which editing program you use . . but I use Elements 4.0 and I have a Sepia filter that I can use for my Sepia tones. . .it works pretty well . . .


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2/21/2006 5:31:57 AM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  one way to do sepia,
make your photo bw whichever way you prefer. then go into color balance... starting point of +27 ,0, -27
see what looks good to you.


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2/21/2006 5:36:50 AM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  thank you everyone for your help!

Suzy your ballerina pic looks very dreamy...nice effect.


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2/21/2006 8:24:12 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  hey alisha or suzy,
I just noticed that there is no link on this thread to the first one...we should do that like debby did, in the 1st message, or header, include links to the previous threads....


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2/21/2006 8:45:11 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Hey, all, just quickly checking in to get on the list! Congrats to all the finalists!


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2/21/2006 9:01:14 AM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Hi everyone! I'm working in Elements 2.0, are you all in PS 7? I don't have quite the same tabs as you described for the sepia (which I've been dying to figure out in PS too!).

Another PS question... do I HAVE to make another layer if I'm only doing minor changes, like just some sharpening on a photo? On things where you erase this or that, or add or remove color, I get the layers thing. But I'm just not sure if I should allllways do a layer to edit.


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2/21/2006 9:06:24 AM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Kristen-
I have only done a few mixed age group shoots, and I have never been able to get them into poses!! I always just shoot what happens... Give them objects, get a cute little chair, make silly noises to try to get a smile.

Others might be able to help you more, I work with adults mostly.


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2/21/2006 9:26:08 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Denyse, I have PSE4. Typically working with lots of layers will give you better control over your changes. I don't know a lot about the different types of layers and settings, but I do know that you can get a fine-tuned control over even minor changes. If you mess up, it'll only let you undo so much before you have to scrap it all and start over. That way, you can delete that layer and only have to start that one adjustment process again.


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2/21/2006 9:30:28 AM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Tonya- I checked out your test shots.... they look good, your light looks nice & even! Have you tried w/ a larger subject yet test for shadows? I lose track of who is doing what... do you have a shoot coming up?


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2/21/2006 9:30:55 AM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Ah-HA, thanks Laura- good point on the "undo"... many times I've just closed the whole image w/o saving to start over. That's probably the reason for the layers!! Somehow I didn't connect that :)


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2/21/2006 9:34:18 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Laura. .. Have you found a way to do masks in PSE 4.0? I have looked and looked for what people tell me to for masking(they are using PS) and I just can't figure it out. . . I make very minimal adjustments to my images but occasionally would like to adjust the background but keep my subject the same exposure. .. they say masking is awhole lot easier than the eraser?? any luck with this?


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2/21/2006 9:38:58 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I don't know ANYTHING about masking, what it is or how to use it! I'd love to find out!


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2/21/2006 9:41:07 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Hi Laura. .. I don't understand Masking in it's entirety(and Liza can probably explain better). .. but masking allows you to do things easier(like selective coloring) and "supposedly" not quite as tedious. .. I'm very sketchy with it as well but a friend I know swears by it and says you will never use the eraser again once you learn it .. . she refers to toggling back and forth .. . like painting black does one thing and painting white does another . . . I see some various things with masking in the paint brush tool, but I realy don't think PSE 4.0 does it ... not like the regular Photoshop versions do anyway .. . I was just hoping you had figured it out LOL . ..


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2/21/2006 9:56:57 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  for more on masking- you can't get any easier then this site,scroll down and click the button.

http://myjanee.home.insightbb.com/tutorials.htm#draw


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2/21/2006 10:04:07 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  and wow, this one is indepth:

http://www.phong.com/tutorials/mask.tree/

Liza, I is confuessed,lol,lol


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2/21/2006 10:06:55 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Good point Tonya:) Thanks..didn't think of that!!!!:) Will do next time, BUT this is Suzy's thread so I'll leave that up to her:) I don't like stepping on toes:)..LOL!!!

Alisha


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2/21/2006 11:32:00 AM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Suzy- Beautiful pastel effect.

If anyone hasn't seen the new collage of the little cowboy in Michelle's gallery. You really need to see it, it's priceless!! She did an awesome job.

Can anyone tell me why this happens:
When I play with a picture in PS and make a copy with the CTRL J, then blur, then erase certain areas, well when I print the image out, those areas that I erased come out looking very grey.


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2/21/2006 12:12:22 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Alisha, Dawn and everyone else; I will not be able to come and play as often. I have projects, research and dead lines to meet and business comes first. This is not my thread, it belongs to all of us. I will be opening my emails and promise to respond as quickly as possible. If time permits, I will drop in to read and say hi.

Talk to you guys later,
Suzy


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2/21/2006 12:24:18 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Michelle, you really did an awesome job on Britton, you should be so proud. I just cant quit looking at them. the collage is adorable!

here is another tutoriol on masking...
http://www.myjanee.com/tuts/layermask/layermask.htm

i have also heard that if you learn masking you will never use the eraser again, I have not got it mastered yet, it still confuses me, but I hear as far as selective coloring goes, it is the tool to use!

Dawn, I am not sure, do you merge or flaten when you are done? Are you sure you are doing the right layer...I do it backwards sometimes...don't know if that would be it or not???

Denyse, thanks for looking at my light tests...I don't have a shoot coming up, just got my lights and am trying to learn to work them...lol...and girl, I can't keep up either..haha.
I shot a few of my daughter when she was running through, but she would kill me if I showed them, cause she was just in from school and all sweaty and mussed...but the shadows did not pose a problem, thanks for reminding me of that, even as much as shadows scare me, I will still forget about them.
also, about working with layers, I work without them allot, mainly cause I forget to create a new one off the bat, but if you are only doing little things, it can be ok, until you go to far like Laura said, then you can only backtrack so much, OR if you are working away and fail to save so that you can UNDO like crazy then something happens and you get a lockup...then you lose all your work...

Kristen, those are going to be hard ages, the 15 month old will not really be able to be "posed", they tend to just like to play, I would work with the baby first, and the 15 month old will probably want in on the action and you can take it from there. Kids are great subjects, but can be trying, you really just have to get some ideas and then follow their lead. My son is 19 months old and I will setup and get my camera on my tripod and then let him engage as he wants and use the remote to snap, if I stay behind the camera, that is where he wants to be.


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2/21/2006 4:54:09 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Thanks Tonya. .. I took the CD to the mom today ... since I post them on my website she had seen a few of them already ... and her babysitter had seen them too . .. I'm not sure what to do about that . . . as I work my images I save them in proof format and then upload that size to the gallery ... it's easier for me to upload them as I work them but then times like yesterday the babysitter had seen some of them before the mom did . . . the mom wasnt' upset but I'm wondering if I should just load them but not put them in "display" mode. . . that would require an extra step but it might save my butt a time or two . . . I never even think about anyone else even knowing they are getting the pictures done so never have worried about it . . . but the babysitter charges her whether they are there or not and the mom was off yesterday for the Holiday so the sister was already there and she dropped the baby off after the session . . . when she came back to get the kids is when the babysitter had already went to the internet to look and see if they were there. .. hmmmm I have their permission to post them so that isnt' the problem .. . it's just the parents seeing them first.

I have a session tomorrow with a 3yo(I think .. .maybe 4) and a 7 month old. .. those are hard ages for me as well . . . and the oldest is a handful ... so it should be interesting . .. trying to get them to both look AND smile is always the hardest. . . they are getting family pics done first so I guess we'll just see how things go . .. I have just decided simplicity is definitely an asset in this business. .. So my advice to you Kristen would be the same . .. just try to keep it simple and you might be surprised how good of stuff you get!


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2/21/2006 5:24:01 PM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Interesting point about the web galleries for proofs... there might be a client along the way who is upset about someone seeing them first (although seriously, whats the difference). BUT,the mom obviously told the sitter about it, and gave her the web address, soooo anyone who does that, it sort of is their own fault if you ask me! :)

I've been playing all night in PS w/ pics I did sat- I had some w/ shadows that I didn't notice right off. I don't seem to be able to blend them as well as I hoped. Anyone have a good tip on that?? I've tried adjusting the contrast & brightness, and on some it works ok, but I'm not sure if that's the best way to go about it.


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2/21/2006 6:36:31 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  depending on how bad the shadow is and what your background is you might be able to use the healing brush tool to blend the edges of the shadow. .. sometiems it gives it kind of a neat look . ..


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2/21/2006 6:47:04 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
 
 
 
Hello all!

Here are a few of the shots I took of my daughter & her friend outside. The indoor shots are posted under thread #18 of studio.

My daughter (the blonde) loves to have her picture taken in our trees, she's still a tom-boy at heart I guess!

Anyway, I am much happier with these than the ones inside.

I mostly just used auto contrast & auto color to correct these. On a couple of them I did use the 2'oclock lighting fix. Somehow I end up using that one more than others because of the softness of it.

If anyone has any suggestions, I'm always open to hear them!


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2/21/2006 7:40:01 PM

 
Kristin Franke
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  Denyse & Michelle, thanks for the suggestions! Do any of you have any tips on good places to find props? Yard sales are out for me this time of year, and I have very limited funds for props.

Alisha, thanks for the email with the links!

Michelle, I agree with everyone else...the little cowboy is adorable! What a neat idea!

Kristin


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2/21/2006 8:14:21 PM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
  Someone asked earlier in this thread about masking etc - I've subscribed to this free newsletter (i've just got no time to try anything, as I'm always on BP!!!!) but some of you might want to check it out - there are free online tuturials emailed weekly - just scroll to the bottom of the page. Brenda , just had a look at your pix (didn't open them) - what is the 2 oclock lighting fix? Your daughter's really cute, but the sky is a bit blown (?) or was it one of those white sky days, or is it my monitor. Just a quick observation.
http://graphicssoft.about.com/mbiopage.htm


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2/21/2006 8:16:08 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Brenda, I saw your pics in the studio thread too, I like the outdoor ones better too. The girls look more "into" the outdoor than the indoor to me. They seem a bit stiff inside. I really like the individual photographs, those are very good. The mirror idea was a good one, but I agree that it did not work out just right,...don't know why really, it needs something. Mirror shots can be hard, but when you nail them, they are awesome. what did the girls think?


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2/21/2006 8:29:38 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Kristin where are you at??? I get alot of my props at Hobby Lobby . .. I just watch their sales and try to take advantage of them . . . they have alot of different stuff especially holiday things. .. You might also check out thrift stores... Dawn is always finding good things . . . ours aren't that good here. . .

Thanks also on the compliment on the cowboy pics. . . I really liked them . . .


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2/21/2006 8:33:38 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Kristin you're more than welcome!! As for props I go to antique stores, Hobby Lobby, Michaels, Wal-Mart or any place that I think will have something I want. You could try e-bay as well. Google what you want on the internet! I'm a big time googler & you can find anything:)

Alisha


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2/21/2006 8:35:40 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
 
 
 
Robyn - 2oclock lighting is one of the options in PS7.

filters >render>lighting effects> then under style choose 2oclock. You can then play with the adjustments & placement of the light source.

Also Robyn, when I took these outdoor shots, the sun was very bright and I was trying to position them with their backs to the sun and then I had to get in a spot where the tree trunk was blocking the sun. I think that's why they look so bright. Wasn't sure what else to try?

Tonya - yes they were very stiff indoors. And oddly, I had to convince them to go outside since it was only in the 40's here today! I still need ALOT of indoor work! I'm attaching another mirror shot I did that I was very pleased with. This was taken in a local studio. I was taking a photo class at the local college (given by a retired National Geographic photographer) and this girl was a model for one of our classes. I was happy with this shot.

Oh, and the girls favored all the outdoor shots too!

Kristin - I don't have many props yet myself, but I'm always checking out yard sales; thrift stores; classified ads; antique stores (I've found some pretty inexpensive things there before); and sometimes I just walk through my house and look at stuff and try to picture if it can be used! haha

Thanks for the input everyone! I'll keep pluggin' away!


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2/21/2006 8:43:49 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Oh, Alisha --- in the first thread you mentioned emailing directions to your collages... can you email them to me as well?

brenda@photosbybrenda.com

Thanks!!


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2/21/2006 8:46:27 PM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
  Brenda, I found the 2 o'clock - forgot I had it!! (I thought it was like the Rule of 16 or something!) If you'd like to email me the one of the girls on either side of the tree, I'd love to play around - will send it back to you. Not sure what time it is on your side, I'm about to leave for work! robyn@options-furniture.co.za
Alisha, I started your 'recipe' last night (was very tired tho!!) but couldn't see the text, no matter how big I made it - I'll try again tonight :) Thanks anyway
Kristin I'm not in the US, but was given this for props
http://www.fairytalesportraitprops.com
I wish I lived there :)!!!


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2/21/2006 9:10:44 PM

 
Robyn Gwilt
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I visited a friend at the coast this weekend (we've been friends for 27 years!) and took pix of her on the beach - I'm just loving BW though, so this is what I did to them


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2/21/2006 9:12:45 PM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
 
 
 
I visited a friend at the coast this weekend (we've been friends for 27 years!) and took pix of her on the beach - I'm just loving BW though, so this is what I did to them


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2/21/2006 9:13:09 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Robyn...What do you mean you couldn't see the text? As because the color didn't show or the size?


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2/21/2006 9:24:56 PM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
  Alisha, just checked again, I think I hadn't selected the 'top'box, (set foreground colour)I selected Arial 30 and the print is very small, and now that I've pasted the pic, I can't move either of them :( As to how to wrap the arms.... that had me rolling on the floor! You are a master at this, I don't think I'll ever get it!


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2/21/2006 9:35:14 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  LOL!!!! I was thinking maybe you didn't have the foreground box with a color you can see:) Find a font that is readable first type it & then you can go HIGHLIGHT the font that you just typed & go up to your fonts list & click the box(NOT the drop down arrow) & you can hit your down arrow key on your keyboard & it will scroll down your fonts list till you come to a font you like:) JUST a little tip!!!! As far as wrapping arms & legs & all that jazz is a WHOLE other deal..hehe!!! I haven't done one of those in quite sometime:)


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2/21/2006 9:43:09 PM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
  Thanks Alisha :) will keep trying! Off to work now will catch up tonight, but will try to watch the thread thru the day - am I the only one who finds this (and BP in general all consuming!) my boyfriend just calls me Betterphoto now!


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2/21/2006 9:45:47 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Alisha- I tried to send you a message through BP but it didn't work. I would love the instructions for collages.
Could you email them to me? Thanks so much!! I've been trying to figure it out.
dpalmerley@hotmail.com


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2/21/2006 9:49:27 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
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  16x20 collage
16x20 collage
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Good luck Robyn:) Dawn they are on their way!!!:)

Here is one collage I just made!! Just thought I would share. These things are REALLY addicting to me to make:) CARDS as well!! They're fun!

Robyn...YES I don't find BP sooooo addicting as much as when I first joined, BUT I enjoy the people & learning & helping if I can:) It ALL still is time consuming. I am on this computer ALL DAY! I work from home anyways for an OB/GYN office then do photography & so I never sleep it seems cause you still have to put family & all that jazz in your schedule as well! IT is tuff that's for sure, BUT maybe that's why I stay up till 2 or 3 am QUITE often while my family sleeps:) BUT I enjoy what I do sooooooooo I will stay sitting here:)


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2/21/2006 10:11:35 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
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  10x20storyboard
10x20storyboard
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Here is one more collage...I am going to bed now:) Talk to everyone later!!!:)


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2/21/2006 11:37:44 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Alisha, love your composites (you are so good at this). I still have really not done any yet but something similar not as nice as any of yours.

Dawn, hello, how are ya!!!!

I am getting my kid up and ready to be taken to school and then I am out the door too! See ya later.

Suzy


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2/22/2006 4:06:45 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Montage


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2/22/2006 4:21:08 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Hi Suzy . . . I like your Montage. . . I think I would like it better if the inset picture was just a tad larger and the colors were more of the same as the background? It's beautiful thsi way too though . . .


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2/22/2006 4:45:58 AM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
  Aaaaaaargh stop 'throwing' these things together Alisha!!! They soooo divine and I'm really battling, trying to sneak views of the thread, work, fetch kids,..... will look again tonight!!


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2/22/2006 4:51:52 AM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Kristen- I agree on props, try walmart or a craft store... my craft stores (Michaels, Joann Fabrics, AC Moore) almost every week have a 40% off coupon, so a $20 item becomes $12 and it's not toooo bad.

I know Dawn said she was checking out 2nd hand stores and got some incredible deals (an old suitcase for $1.50!) Consignment shops, salvation army, and yes ebay! I'm a big ebay fan, although I haven't purchased any props from it yet.


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2/22/2006 5:06:06 AM

 
Kristin Franke
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
 
 
 
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. I'll have to visit Michaels this week. We don't have a Hobby Lobby around here (I'm in chilly Wisconsin). I want to start with a kid size bench and/or a kid size chaise lounger. I may have to hunt around for those!

Michelle, I feel just like you do! I also work from home and have 2 kids home with me as well. My 9 month old has slept through the night a only handful of times since she was born. I've become obsessed with all this photography stuff and between this and getting my work done and staying up late to do it - then waking up with the baby like twice a night, I get NO sleep! I really would love to be able to do this as my only job since I have SO much more passion for photography than my current job!

Alisha, those collages are great! What font did you use on the 10x20 one, the handwritten-looking font?

I'm attaching one I made of my girls. What do you guys think? Any critiques please...

Kristin :)


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2/22/2006 6:21:14 AM

 
Kristin Franke
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Darn it, I wasn't signed all the way in...


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2/22/2006 6:22:24 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Kristin, lovely. Very well done.
Love all that pink.

I need help, CC and opinions.

I need to do a composite and would like to use the shot with only the shoes and rose as the background; The problem is not enough room to add any other photos or it will be distracting. Any ideas? To place another photo horizontally I do not think it looks good but I am open for opions.

Suzy


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2/22/2006 6:33:31 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
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  testing
testing
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Okay here is the photo


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2/22/2006 6:34:17 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
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  Robyn...LOL!!! You'll get there. Busy lives always get in the way:) ARGH!!!!

Kristin that font was petra script font. I downloaded it for free from here.. http://www.scrapvillage.com/fontsp.htm & let me tell ya I searched FOREVER high & low for this font, BUT everyone charged for it that had it & I couldn't find it for free & FINALLY wala..SCRAPBOOKING..DUH!!! I LOVE that site..COOL FONTS!! ALSO very nice collage. I like that pink!

Suzy...I like your collage. I like the coloring of it. I know what you're wanting to do with just the shoes & flowers, BUT it's been my experience I have to just take a picture of just that & then use that as my background. Michelle Ross is good at having things as the background & then "ghosting" it. Maybe she can give ya some advice:) Also watch out with the broken letters. I see on Stephanie it's a little broken up. Not sure why that happens & it does that to me sometimes, BUT I just do a copy layer of the word & it darkens it.

Alisha


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2/22/2006 7:16:11 AM

 
Rebecca A. Steed
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/6/2005
 
 
 
Okay, I realize the SEPIA question was posted a while ago, but I found a slightly easier way..maybe someone already mentioned it, I don't know. I go to adjust hue/saturation and then check the 'colorize' box. This usually makes it a little magenta, but if you adjust the hue slightly, it will make it sepia. that is how I got this photo. I didn't convert to black and white first, I just colorized it.


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2/22/2006 7:50:56 AM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  I'm here, just didn't realise thread had moved, gotta catch up, be back later.. debbie


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2/22/2006 8:16:36 AM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Becky- cool shortcut on the sepia, thanks! I just tried it and it works good. I did have to adjust the hue & saturation quite a bit after I clicked Colorize, but I found a nice sepia in there.


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2/22/2006 8:59:43 AM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Alisha- Thanks so much for the instructions!! I'll be trying it out today. Where do you find the different sayings for collages??

I might do some more test shots today with my boys. I found a huge white sheet the other day "at the second hand store". lol Gotta try it out!


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2/22/2006 9:51:42 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Here are my secrets..LOL!!! JUST KIDDING:)

FONTS:
http://www.dafont.com/theme.php?cat=105&page=1.

http://www.scrapvillage.com/fontsa.htm.

QUOTES/POEMS:
http://www.scrapbook.com/quotes.php.

http://www.dennydavis.net/.

Those are the sites I use the MOST!! You can always do a google search for what your looking for & all kinds of fonts/quotes/poems will come up. Like if your looking for children poems...type that in. I found that these work the best for me though. ESPECIALLY the scrapbooking one!!! ENJOY!!!

Alisha


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2/22/2006 10:00:07 AM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
  Sorry if this is a dumb question, but when d/l fonts, where do I save them? My computer automatically unzips to Filters, but for some reason I can't find 'Fonts' (Robyn ducks under the desk feeling really stupid!!)


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2/22/2006 10:28:35 AM

 
Robyn Gwilt
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  Sorry, ignore that.....!!


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2/22/2006 10:35:49 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
 
 
  10x20 Storyboard
10x20 Storyboard
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Nikon D70S Digital...
 
  10x20 Storyboard
10x20 Storyboard
© Alisha L. Ekstrom
Nikon D70S Digital...
 
 
Robyn...LOL!! Did you figure it out? I just created a couple more cause I just figured out how to create a torn edging on the images:) YAY!! I LOVE that look!!!

Alisha


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2/22/2006 12:22:49 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
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Becky, just wanted to say what a sweet shot!

I am doing like everyone else, caught up in the fever of composites. Has anyone try printing them for adverstising instead of business cards? What are we looking at in terms of cost?

Thank You
Suzy


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2/22/2006 6:46:52 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Suzy - I LOVE your composite. I think the photo in the background looks perfect there.


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2/22/2006 7:04:56 PM

 
Robyn Gwilt
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  Alisha :( stoppit!! Its 0530 and I'm back, bleary eyed at the computer - its not happening for me. I'm working in Elements 2.0 - when I open an image its very big on the white new file page, then I can't move it, I think I'm going to start another thread.... I just have to think of something!!


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2/22/2006 7:22:48 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  alisha,
how do you do the borders where you you get them to look rough? or deckled,etc?
i have pscs
thanks!


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2/22/2006 7:29:00 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Robyn....if you're not cropping the image FIRST say 2x2 & THEN moving the image...THEN yes it's gonna be big. What I do when I do it that way is ONCE I've moved it onto my canvas you take your MOUSE & CLICK on the image & MOVE it till you see a CORNER. THEN with your MOUSE..DRAG the corner JUST a TAD & at the top of your tool bar you should see some dimensions that say W:....H:......NOW just start off with say 50% for the Wbox & 50% for the Hbox(meaning width & height)....MAKE sure they are the SAME #'s though....THEN once you have the image small enough to fit on your canvas you can still DRAG the corners HOLDING down your shift key at the SAME time so that you're not making the image distorted!!! I hope this makes sense....TRY it & let me know....

Erinn...ONE sec..American Idols back on..be back at commercial break..hehe..YES I'm a BIG FAN!!!

Alisha


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2/22/2006 7:41:01 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
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  Robyn...ALSO MAKE sure you click the black check mark after you've got your image sized the way you want so it'll save it!!!:)

Erinn...I discovered today on those buy going to your brush tool & selecting either the dry media brush or wet media brush & going over the edges will erase the edges & make the design. THOUGH if you need DETAILED instructions let me know!! I'll do that after American Idol..LAST SINGER:)..LOL!!!

Alisha


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2/22/2006 7:47:35 PM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
 
 
 
Hi just checking in. I got left way behind. I had two shoots the last two days. This is from todays. Not much PS in this one, just want to know what y'all think. I have to hand it to these girls it was 40 degrees and the wind was blowing. I wanted to try variations but they were done.

Let me know what you think.

Chris


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2/22/2006 10:52:22 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
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  Chris - I think it's great! And you're right, you coulda fooled me into thinking it was a warm sunny day. :) I guess cheerleaders must get really used to being cold in their skimpy little outfits all winter long.


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2/23/2006 7:27:59 AM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Goodmorning everyone! It sure has been quiet in here lately.

For anyone who is interested:
If you go to HP.com there is an online course in Advanced PS. And it's free! I joined and now it's about layers and applying vignettes. Alot of info there!!

Chris- Love the picture! I would have thought it was summer.


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2/23/2006 8:59:27 AM

 
Denyse Clark
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  awesome, thanks Dawn! i'm heading there now....


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2/23/2006 9:05:00 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Good Morning all . . . anyone have any experiences with Sigma flashes??? I'm wanting to upgrade my accessory flash .. but the Minolta version is $300. YIKES.. . I found a Sigma model for only $200? email me if you like because this is off topic here!


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2/23/2006 9:28:30 AM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
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  Danielle and Dawn, Thank you for the kind words. I really wanted to try some variations on this pose but it really was cold out there and they were done after one try. Luckily I tooke enough shots to get a decent one. Most of the shots had one or two pairs of eyes closed. I think I should have had the bikes closer together so that I could have come in tighter on them. Overall I'm fairly happy.

Chris


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2/23/2006 9:30:00 AM

 
Deb Brown
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/20/2003
  Hi All:

Got a question (perhaps more for the collage queen- Alisha). I have done many collages in pscs, but have never printed any out. I need to print and mount one for a client and have this question: If I am working with 9 square (5x5) images, would I be best to go with a 20x20 collage so to leave extra room for framing? Obviously I did not fair well in math! Any input and/or other options you can think of, PLEASE DO SHARE! Thanks in advance!

Deb


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2/23/2006 3:23:52 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Deb. .. your best bet would be to check and see what size the lab you uses can print. . . MPix does not have a 20x20 square print so you would have to print it on a 20x30 size. .. I think the largest square they go is 12x12 which you could probably get by with 3x3 images doing it that way and be okay! if you do go with the 20x20 you will have to prepare it in photoshop on a 20x30 so when you upload it you won't have any problem ordering the 20x30 . .. then when it arrives you will have to cut of the blank part!


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2/23/2006 3:36:01 PM

 
Deb Brown
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  Michelle....thanks so much for your speedy response! I actually use WHCC and they do offer a 20x20...so in that case, would you say (9) 5x5s would work? I might also talk to the client and offer the smaller collage 12x12 with the 3x3s that you mentioned. The ratio seems to be the same (right?), but just a smaller image. Boy do I sound dumb or what? I guess when you get to 38y.o. one is not to shy about asking stupid questions...or even the questions that make my IQ appear a bit low LOL. Thanks again----I really DO
appreciate your help!


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2/23/2006 3:59:23 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Well Deb . .. working with a 20x20 . .. your images will take up a minimum of 15x15. . . so that will leave you 5 inches to leave space between and around the edges. .. if you went 1 inch in betwen pics and 1.5 on the edges that is 5 inches and it should work out great! I didnt' realize WHCC offered the 20x20 .. . My clients would go more for the 12 x 12 because of price . . . but I do have one that might buy a 20x20 .. . you never know . . . I wouldn't offer both to the same person though. ..

I'm 38 too and the only stupid question is the one not asked :-)


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2/23/2006 4:30:06 PM

 
Kristin Franke
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  Erinn, I noticed you asked before about the jagged borders like Alisha made on her collage. One of the ways I do it sometimes is by duplicating the layer and inserting a solid white layer in between and then erasing with a "grungy" brush (holding the shift key makes a straight line).

I also use another technique though (I use elements so I have to workaround not having a layer mask feature) so I duplicate the layer then make a selection w/the rectangular marquis around the area I want the border. Then I make a new levels adjustment layer (this is the workaround) and then shift-alt-click on the white mask so it is visible (red) on the photo. Then you can play with brush stroke filters like spatter and sprayed strokes until you get the right effect. Then you control/command-click on the mask to select it and you can just throw out the levels adjustment layer. Then with the selection highlighted on the duplicated layer click control/command-J and then insert a white solid color adjustment layer below (but above original layer).

It sounds confusing but once you do it a few times it is easy! Hopefully this can help...and I'm sure it is easier with pscs since you can just use the quick mask feature, but I'm not familiar enough w/cs to describe that technique. If it doesn't make since feel free to email me and I'll try to explain it better.

There are so many ways to do borders and this probably isn't the same way Alisha does it but you can get nice effects this way.


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2/23/2006 7:56:04 PM

 
Pat Wimpee   Kristin- Thanks so much for that great tip! I just tried that and it's alot easier than I'd been doing! I never knew holding the shift key would give you a straight line.


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2/23/2006 8:35:15 PM

 
Deb Brown
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  12x12 body parts collage
12x12 body parts collage
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Michelle......thanks so much for your help. After working on this darn thing for the past couple of hours, I finally have a final product. Any feedback...constructive feedback, too- is very welcomed.

Thanks again!
deb


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2/23/2006 9:29:22 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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  Deb- I love the collage. I think it looks perfect. (love the butt shot) lol


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2/23/2006 9:53:08 PM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
  Deb, this is absolutely gorgeous - I'm still battling to get this whole damn collage thing right. I also love the 'butt' shot, but with all the perves out there (sadly)I think I might have shot from a slightly more obtuse angle, otherwise its absolutely perfect


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2/23/2006 11:56:05 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
 
 
  Our little miracle
Our little miracle
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Hi guys...this collage thing is so addictive! here's one I put together from newborn shoot I did the other day.

I love the pink dress up one!!! It's too cute!!!


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2/24/2006 12:13:25 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Deb and Christine, SO CUTE!!!!!
really nice collages.
Christine, See you are really gettin' great stuff from that setting.
I am so happy for you.


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2/24/2006 12:25:16 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
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  baby
baby
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Looking for Suzy,

My grandaughter is getting baptized on sunday. I want to make her portrait look like yours.. the painted dreamy thing? can you help me?
Erinn


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2/24/2006 12:42:40 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  I can't tell ya how to do all that Erinn, but I will say she looks pretty dreamy herself all dressed up in her gown.


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2/24/2006 12:54:48 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
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Christening
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here's another... I only just started looking at them... so I haven't gone through all of them yet. I just couldn't help myself from playing with ones I thought were cute!


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2/24/2006 1:03:43 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Thanks Debby!


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2/24/2006 1:09:38 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Erinn, BabyA is an absolute gorgeous photo...don't know that you'd have to do anything to that one!!


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2/24/2006 1:11:16 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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  Erinn- I agree with Christine. BabyA is perfect on it's own. It already looks very dreamy. Beautiful portrait!!


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2/24/2006 3:03:35 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Hey, any of you that had bought Liza's Templetes-
Take a look at the sample from her new CD's!!
on the Studio Thread.
they are Beautiful!!!
I just found out she is releaseing two more and they are wonderful-
I can't wait to get mine.


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2/24/2006 3:07:13 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
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  Renaissance Revival
Renaissance Revival
New Template Design
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Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
 
Suzy the thread seems to be moving along great. The collages are all wonderful and Erinn Baby A is beautiful.

I've been playing in Photoshop way too much, you all know how addictive it is. I wanted to share this one with everyone. There is no possible way for me to write down all these steps, my little model is a demanding little one and is used to a lot of attention. I usually like to share all the steps, but this one was really labor intensive. It had over 30 layers involved, some which I delete because they were guide lines for centering or pattern design. Photoshop possibilities are endless and I love watching everyone's styles evolve right before us.

Keep up the great work everyone.


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2/24/2006 3:12:19 PM

 
Deb Brown
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Thanks everyone for your comments on the collage. Erinn...I LOVE the images of such a beautiful baby. Christine....your collage is adorable!
Okay...my next post is just for fun....had my 20 week sonogram today and they offered me a 4D as they were testing their new machine...lucky me!


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2/24/2006 3:19:30 PM

 
Deb Brown
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  ~ Birth Order ~
~ Birth Order ~
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Thanks everyone for your comments on the collage. Erinn...I LOVE the images of such a beautiful baby. Christine....your collage is adorable!
Okay...my next post is just for fun....had my 20 week sonogram today and they offered me a 4D as they were testing their new machine...lucky me!


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2/24/2006 3:20:00 PM

 
Deb Brown
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/20/2003
  WOW Liza...your RR image and template are just beautiful! Love those colors!


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2/24/2006 3:23:55 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Thanks Deb. I was in such a hurry to scroll down just now and tell you how awesome that is. It is so amazing what technology has to offer now. Really think about it, your little one isn't even born yet and you can display portaits of all your kids. So cool.


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2/24/2006 3:31:26 PM

 
Liz Hincka  
 
 
These collages all look so great, I am in awe of what everyone is doing in here. You are all so inspiring to me. I have not had time to take any pics recently, so playing with the vignettes and sepia mentioned in the ps threads with some old pics from last summer. In Northern Michigan, we have lots of snow so this beach pic was fun. This is my son (middle) and his two cousins enjoying the beach of Lake Huron.


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2/24/2006 4:11:08 PM

 
Nancy C. Cassell   Deb - The photo of your baby is amazing! Sure looks better than the grainy ultrasound of a few years ago. The collage is a creative way to show your kids! Now, I bet your first two are really asking when the new baby will arrive. Did you try the collage in black and white? The color of the ultrasound photo reminds me of Silly Putty. It is still impressive. It might be even better if all three were black and white. Beautiful design and creative idea! Congratulations on your baby on the way.

Nancy


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2/24/2006 6:40:48 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Wow, you guys have sure been busy around here! I am looking at all the collages and I am thinking WOW, these kids in here are GOOD!

Erinn, I am looking at your grandaughter's photo and all I can say is double WOW. The photo looks soft and with great details. I do not think it needs any more burning, dodging and soft blur's (it is perfect).

Deb- Very creative placing the ultra sound photo. I would have never thought of doing somthing so cool. I am a fan of your work!

Debby, I have not had the time to look at the CD's, is she selling them? I need to find out how much. I will be going to that thread tomorrow.

I may have a photo seccion tomorrow; another ballerina but this time a 5 year old. Her mother was doing professional ballet in Russia and the little girl has style. Wish me luck! All this for free! I am trying to build up my confidence and perhaps have enough good shots to place on a website. I am also looking for good prices on webpages (something that I can play sounds). Any ideas?

Well, I ran out of photos to play with maybe after tomorrow I may have some more. My real work has kept me busy with no time for playing.

I really have missed coming out and playing with you all! :(

Suzy


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2/24/2006 7:28:42 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  THanks guys!
Erinn


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2/24/2006 8:35:45 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Hey ya'll!
coming to check in and see what's new. There is some very nice stuff posted here lately, everyone has been busy working these collages...making me want to have some late nights myself!

So get this...yesterday923rd) was my b-day and hubby comes home tonite with a little surprise for me, he got me a nice little kodak easy share point and shoot! too cool! now I can have this hanging around for the every day stuff and not have to worry about my nikon getting dropped or hurt or anything like that. It is a cool little camera, and I am guessing it will perform every bit as good as my d50, but without lens changeability.Just read a little bit so far, it has some NICE and SLR-like bells and whistles, it is a 5mp and has a 10x optical zoom...I have been wanting one for a long time, and I guess he thought now was good cause the other day at dawn we had 6 deer in our backyard and I grabbed by d50 to get some pics and did not get one to turn out...I still had my camera at 200/200/f22 from practice the day before. So he was like..you need a little camera to have ready for stuff like this! cool huh! he is a sweetie

OK>>>>LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I have a PS question. I am working on a name collage and doing the bevels and emboss that liza gave instruction for, and I am having trouble with the layers. The bevel and emboss is on the font layer, but does not show when the pictures are on...it only shows when you see the acctual letters, when all layers are on and I click on the layer with the pictures in the font, the bevels don't show....what I am doing wrong? Best I can tell the layers are in order on the pallet...I can't figure it out.


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2/24/2006 8:40:04 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Deb- I love the collage with your 3rd little one's first pic. That is so awesome!! I was also going to suggest doing all three in b&w. Congrats!!!

I went to a thing at our church tonight. The kids stayed home with my brother and my husband and I went. We had to bring a salad. It was a potluck dinner for couples with kids. (but now kids tonight) We watched the most hilarious magician. It was really nice to get out and have a good laugh.
Anyway, I talked to some of the women and I now have some more clients! Yeah!! Their calling me to make appointments. I can't wait!! Wish me luck!


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2/24/2006 10:42:20 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  ok, sorry guys, you can tell I'm tired tonight. My spelling was just awful.
(my husband and I went) and (no kids tonight) LOL and.....They're calling me to make appointments.
(I'm such a perfectionist) I honestly got A's in english.
lol Goodnight!!


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2/24/2006 10:45:58 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Hello guys, I have been playing with a photo of my son Jovany. I posted the two styles on my gallery and would like to enter in the contest. Question is: B&W
or color? What do you think.
Here is the BW

Suzy


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2/24/2006 10:53:00 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
I always forget to sign in!


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2/24/2006 10:53:50 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Hi Suzy .. I love B&W images and the mood they can portray but in this case I think I'm saying color . . . there is just such a richness to the color version . . .

Dawn I missed you tonight but glad you had fun and wooo hooo on new clients.

Did I tell you guys that I am helping with a wedding? On March 11. Hopefully it doesn't snow and I can make it down there and back with no weather issues. ..

My husband's cousin also called yesterday . .she lives in Atlanta. .. anyway . . . she used to do photography when she lived here and has a set of Novatron lights. .. she's supposed to be sending them to me so I can have a backup . .. she has a powerpack also but right now it's Dead and won't work . . .so I'm hoping I can call novatron and they can tell me that it can be fixed without costing me an arm and a leg . . but I'm not too optimistic abou that . . .her set I think is just like mine so not only will I have a backup but can also have two setups in place if I need to . . . even if her powerpack can't be fixed I know the lights will work with my pack so that will be great! She also told me her son is adopting a little boy from another country(Afghanistan/Russia area) and in return for the lights she just wants me to take some pictures of him sometimes . .. woo hooo!

I'm off today for my son's last basketball tournament(yahoooo). .. so will not be back til later tonight!


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2/25/2006 3:13:05 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Congratulations Tonya, we know you'll be playing with your new toy this weekend. Do you want to give me a call so we can figure it out together. Its so much easier by phone. I'll email you my number.

Liz- what a great shot of the boys. The boys must have a had a great time. I grew up in South Florida and had the beach right there, but it was still always fun to pack up and head to the beach.

Dawn-networking is one of the best things you can do. The more people who know what you do the better. Even if you tell someone and they don't need portraits at that time, they may pass your name along to someone else. Word of mouth has seemed to be the best advertisement for me. Any advertising I've spent money on never seemed to produce clients. Mention it to everyone you can. Congratulations.

Suzy- the color one is awesome, very rich tones. Where did you get the cap? It is great!!! I really like your son's name too.

Michelle- lucky you, can't beat a second set of lights for trade, that is awesome.


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2/25/2006 8:01:48 AM

 
Melissa Cozis   Hey, I'm a late comer (thanks for the link Liza) - I noticed a lot of ?? about PS - something I discovered and LOVE is the book PHOTOSHOP CS: THE ART OF PHOTOGRAPHING WOMEN (I'll have to get my copy back from my assistant to put the author down for you). It teaches lighting, but mostly photoshop - the stuff like masking (yes, masking is great! Unlike it eraser, it's non-destructive - meaning that you can go back with out having destroyed the picture), layers, and how to make those cool borders and text filters.

To do your borders, double click a layer until your "Layer Styles" screen comes up - this allows you to custom make a border - bevel it, color it, what ever you want. It's great.

Really, go get this book ya'll. I've only been shooting 2 years, and only been in photoshop for about 1 year - and I have photographers with 20+ years, that use photoshop daily, coming up and offering to trade me shooting skill expertise for a little photoshop lesson, so they can know "how I did that" - - and I have to laugh, cause I just did what the book told me!!! It's great. Plus, my workflow is a lot faster thanks to the tips there (it talks about making actions for color/sharpening/copyrighting, all in one step, it talks about proofing, archiving, making webpages, making Photoshop galleries - the works) Best $35 I could hve spent.


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2/25/2006 11:29:27 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Good afternoon!
I just have a minute, things are hectic today,and hubby and I have a date tonite!
Just wanted to tell suzy that I vote for the color one too, I have to agree that the black and white just does not do it for this one, the colors are too good!
Liza, got your number...thanks! I am not in a big hurry and dont have time to play today, but if I don't get it figured out, I will call you, don't worry about having to type it all out here, I know that is consuming, I just thought maybe I messed up a layer or something that someone would recognize the error...


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2/25/2006 11:42:35 AM

 
Melissa Cozis   If anyone is confused about the masking tool (admittedly, I use Photoshop - the only time I use PSE is at work, and it's an old version - I hear the new version has masking tho) let me know, I'd be happy to give some easy step by steps for anything from selective coloring to removing back grounds or making composites with it. It's really a great tool.


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2/25/2006 12:08:26 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Melissa, I'm glad you checked out the thread. I have never heard of the book you mentioned, it sounds great. I will definitely have to look for that one. Thanks for the tip.


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2/25/2006 12:57:15 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
I have spent hours painting this photo in painter. I am still learning to use the softwre but I think it came out pretty good. Does it look like a painting or still looks like a photo?

Thank you
Suzy


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2/25/2006 1:13:38 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
  Painted little girl
Painted little girl
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I have spent hours painting this photo in painter. I am still learning to use the softwre but I think it came out pretty good. Does it look like a painting or still looks like a photo?

Thank you
Suzy


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2/25/2006 1:13:38 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Hi Suzy, I think she is definitely looking like a painting and is turning out beautifully. Could be my monitor, but check her skin tone on yours. On mine her face is more pink and her arm is more peach. Her hair and everything is looking great. Her eyes really draw you in.


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2/25/2006 1:28:56 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  suzy,
although I like the BW one of your son, I think i'd go with the color version.
Erinn


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2/25/2006 1:34:48 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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  Suzy this looks more like a painting and I really like it. Beautiful job.

Kerby


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2/25/2006 1:35:42 PM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
  Suzy this is beautiful - when you say you spent hours painting - is this in PS - how do you do this? I still can't get my montages to work, so I'm giving them a break for a while and admiring everyone elses!


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2/25/2006 2:09:59 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Michelle- How exciting!! Maybe I'll be able to talk to you tonight and you can tell me more about the lights.

Suzy- I love the color one of your son the best. The b&w just doesn't work for this picture. And the one of the little girl is gorgeous! It does look like a painting. I love how her hair turned out, how did you do that?

Thanks Liza!


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2/25/2006 4:56:26 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
 
 
  Siblings
Siblings
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Suzy - gorgeous pictures. I do like the colour one of your son better. The picture of the little girl is beautiful.

I just put this collage together of my babies.


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2/25/2006 5:36:40 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Thank you all for the feedback on the color and BW photo of my son. I guess the color wins over the BW.

The little girl was painted with painter, a software which I have been trying to learn to use. It is a lot of fun.

Just finished another shooting of a red hed little girl, it was a lot of fun. So, I am playing with them.

What is everyone up to this Sat. night?
My husband went to work (late) and my house is full of kids (my son's friends) sleeping over. The room smells like old tennis shoes... LOL

Suzy


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2/25/2006 6:23:48 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  oh nooo.. not the stinky feet??? lol
my dog would eat their soocks if they left them out in my house!!!
Just going to bed, sleep well all!


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2/25/2006 8:02:00 PM

 
Nancy C. Cassell  
 
  Craddled in Daddy's Arms
Craddled in Daddy's Arms
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  Profile
Profile
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  Wise Baby
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Hello,
I've never uploaded photos on the forum, so hopefully I do this right. I borrowed lights from one neighbor and a baby from another neighbor. Please tell me what you think of the images. I am just trying to get the hang of lighting and the Canon 20D. I always shot film in natural lighting... so need help, advice and lots of practice. I appreciate all feedback. Thanks! Nancy


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2/25/2006 10:47:31 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Hi Nancy! Your baby images look good ... they appear to have a bit of an orangish cast to me, but this could be my monitor . .. but if this is your first time with lights the white balance could simply just need to be set differently .. very common thing really. . .


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2/26/2006 5:51:46 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Actually Nancy,
You will probubly get a lot more help with lighting ect. on the other thread Studio Photography.
Now that cast of gold can be caused by the bounce of room color, also what kind of blub s do these lights have, sometimes if it is a tungsten blub, it will give a warmer cast.(like a gold)
may also mean the main like may nee to be set higher.
could you tell us a bit more about what you are using, placement of lights, and if the blubs are indeed tungsten, and camera setting.
thanks you,
Debby


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2/26/2006 7:47:28 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Suzy,
could you please tell me what program exactly that is. We would all really like to know ,there are so many versions of paint programes.
the name , maker and version will be a great help.
So you pububly realize they all cost to much to make a mistake and buy the wrong one
THANK YOU!


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2/26/2006 7:50:57 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Sorry Febby, did not realized there were that many. This one is called Corel Painter.

Okay, soooo I am bored and it is raining cats and dogs and I insist in becoming an artist and a photographer (among other things) Here is last night photo shoot and me just playing with colors & texture. What do you think? I can handle it!!
Really!!!!

Suzy


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2/26/2006 8:10:28 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Debby, sorry for mispelling your name!!

Here we go again.


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2/26/2006 8:11:25 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Here we go again???
I don't understand?? I think maybe your whole post didn't come through.
You only told us you used a Painter programe. I looked and there are so many, I am sure we would all like to know but I know I would like to know what one you used to get that type of effect.
could you please re post the name of the programe your using and the version?
Thank You so much,
Debby


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2/26/2006 8:18:15 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Ok, Suzy,
I don't know why but on my computer that post did not appear,must have been still loading,
I had thought that was the one, and have it now.
Thank you so much for the comformation.


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2/26/2006 8:34:11 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Debby, Corel Painter IX

Sorry, I said here we go again because I always forget to log in & have to come back to post my photos. I hate it when I do that.

I know that I am being a little creative here (maybe too much) and I know you tend to like natural looks but what do you think of the middle photo?

Suzy


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2/26/2006 8:58:35 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  I like the effect, the color seems a bit pick to me-but that may have been the intent. I do like the porcaline look quite a bit.
It is the pose I find distracting So if something is bothering you and you can't really figure it out, it is probly her arm placement in the pose.
Sometimes the sub-concenice tells us something is wrong with a good shot-the problem is usually found in the poseing.
This is Proven phsycological fact, that is why Posing as it has all but died it the "schools of photography" is so important.
and to be clear , I have no problem with "specialty Art effects" they have thier place.


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2/26/2006 9:18:07 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  goodness,
I am struggiling with pictures not formatting clear enough on the program, I am using to write the Studio CD, and so I did not proff read(witch I am bad at anyway)
that was "pink" to pink to me.

sorry


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2/26/2006 9:21:19 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Debby, thank you; The pose actually is what I like the most because she was being herself (not posing) the colors I was concerned with because I do not know the difference between red and orange.

Thanks
Suzy

Where is everyone, still sleeping?! :(


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2/26/2006 9:23:53 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  This is not aimed at you Suzy at all, just a great time to clairify something about posing.
When You pose someone, it does not mean they have to look "Posed"
Good posing allows you to pose the body to look good in even a natual pose.
good arm, hand, feet an deye placement all inhance a natural pose.
other wise I great natural pose can still leave a subject looking larger then they are, missing a limb(as in that shot of the little boy as a fisherman I did and goofed)Hands to Large, eyes to big or small or??? faces looking odd or mis shaped.

this was a real good place to just point out the mis conception of "Posing"

thanks for the oppertunity.


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2/26/2006 9:35:41 AM

 
Melissa Cozis  
 
  Flights of Fancy
Flights of Fancy
Composite image from 3 photographs (Baby "fairy" Kirsten, a butterfly, and flower). Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL f/5.6 0.00 EV 28.00 mm ISO 100 1/50 sec

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  2
2
Kirsten's baby fairy picture - a photoshop composit of three images. This one, I've erased the line at the top
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  Flights of Fancy
Flights of Fancy
Composite image from 3 photographs (Baby "fairy" Kirsten, a butterfly, and flower). Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL f/5.6 0.00 EV 28.00 mm ISO 100 1/50 sec

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ya'll help me out please:) I was looking at this fairy baby picture (1) and thought I noticed a line across the top of the image. Do ya'll see one, or is it my monitor?

I pulled it into Photoshop to erase it (2) and noticed it almost looks like a beveled edge, so figured I'd try adding a beveled edge to the entire photo (3) but can't decide if that works for me or just clutters up the image. Any thoughts on that?

Thanks:)


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2/26/2006 11:43:24 AM

 
Melissa Cozis   OOOPS! Correction! I crossed 2 and 3 up there. 2 has the beveled edge, and 3 is just a plain picture, sans the line at the top. Thanks again.


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2/26/2006 11:50:35 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Hi Melissa,

If it is going into an acrylic see through frame you could leave the bevel. If it is going into a regular wooden frame your bevel may get partially covered and may look funny. Frames will usually cover 1/4" or more depending on the frame size. To play it safe I'd go without. You were right, there was a line on 1. This is such cheerful collage, really cute.


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2/26/2006 12:53:35 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Suzy- I love the 3rd one the best, but the 2nd isn't bad either. And I absolutely LOVE her "pose", it is very natural. I love when kids are being themselves in a picture. Not so "photographer posed".


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2/26/2006 12:55:02 PM

 
Nancy C. Cassell   Thanks Michelle and Debby for commenting on the photos. You helped me see a big problem - the lights have the wrong bulbs! See what happens when you borrow stuff and assume that the pro has it just right. Take nothing for granted. Here's what I shot with (I expect some snickering). Canon 20D, using the 580 speedlite pointed straight up to trigger the studio lights and bounce off of the ceiling. Get ready for the good part...the lights are white lightening... two different... ultrazap 1600 with what looks like a household bulb of 100w... ultra 1200 with a GE 300w photocopy bulb!!!??? I didn't even know there was such a thing as a photocopy bulb. Yikes. I shot with reflective umbrellas, too.

Debby, as far as placement of lights and the camera... constantly moving! I started with the standard subject in front of the camera, stronger light to one side, reduced light to other. The reason I don't say 4 or 8 o'clock, or degrees, is that they moved every couple of shots... then, I'd move, so the camera has been everywhere from the floor in front, to the side, to above. How's that for a formula?

I looked up on the internet what bulbs the lights should have - so thank you! They should be 150w with quartz modeling lamp. I might be able to fix this soon. Unfortunately, the local camera store is closed on Sunday. I wonder if I could go to Home Depot and get daylight balanced compact flourescent. Would that be similar to the new cool lights? Anyone? It couldn't be worse that the peachy coloring that I have now, right?

Melissa - I did see the edge on the photo, so no, it isn't your monitor. I liked when you removed it the best. Can you crop it? For composition, you don't need that extra space up there. Are you keeping it for a particular print size?

Suzy - I like the second photo. The colors are nice. I agree with Debby on posing. Her head has the perfect ballerina tilt. I would like to see more of her arms. Cute and natural, yes. Did you take any with her arms in front? I just think that they could add to the beauty of the image.

Thank you everyone for your help.
Nancy


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2/26/2006 1:01:21 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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  I have someone wanting to use one of my images of my eleven year old child model for a college report.

Let me know what you do or if you have certain questions you would ask.

Thanks, Kerby


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2/26/2006 1:02:48 PM

 
Melissa Cozis   Nancy - yes, I'm trying to keep it at current size (no cropping) becuase her father wants to print it out poster size.

Liza - I think it will be in an Acryllic at their home, at poster size, but I think I'll put this one and the other like it in an actual frame at my home (this is my future future step-neice, Kirsten)

We had a lot of fun shooting this - a friend had given my daughters these HUGE stuffed, bendable, colorful daisies - we kept tickling Kirstin and bopping her in the nose with it, and she followed it where ever it went. Just went to my local dollar store (they have cute stuff like this all the time) and got these big butterflies and dragon flies, and butterflies on sticks - I think I'll get some cute stuff, or at least some easy kid wrangling, out of them - can't wait to try them out.

Kerby - I'd want to know what the useage is for, what the report is about, where and how it will be used, and if the person making the request expects compensation for their work. If they will be making money off a report that has MY photo in it, I would expect some compensation for the use of the photo.

Melissa


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2/26/2006 1:32:47 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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  Thank you Melissa those are good questions.

She did not name a particular image she just said the one of your beautiful model. I got several on my page of Keshia.

I did write back and say which one but have not heard back yet that was late this morning.

I rewrite her and ask the question you wrote out for me.

Thank you, Melissa.

Kerby


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2/26/2006 1:41:40 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Suzy, I'm voting for test 03. I like the cute little read head with the pale white skin.


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2/26/2006 3:08:58 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Kirstin,
is lurking and enjoying this thread and a few others related and asked me about the CD's: I did send you a email, I hope you don't mind me posting this as well for others,yes the Cd's are listed in my gallery and
if you click on them they all have information and yes the prices for BP members is different-and there is a free Cd offer right now under the
Studio CD And if you are looking for the templet CD's then contact Liza Franco@ lizafranco.com
I hope this helps.

Nancy,
I am so glad this could help, It is usually the case-either Bleed for room color or Blubs. I am glad you found out a bit more about that.
The White Lighting is not a recommended kit, it does have it's problems and power out put is one as well.This is just something to keep in mind as you start to look for your own set.
Actually under those the conditions the Bounce is recommended,so good job, how ever in this case a bit more direct light may have cut the yellow.
again, though I don't know what is going on in the room itself.
as far as the light placement-it's great to play with the different light placements, but when preareing a shoot with out a light meter, just using digital veiwing( which is more then fine)I recommend that you start with the basic set up and test your lighting then when all is right go from there.
At this time I do want to add, that I really try not to answer these types of questions on this thread, but will certinally on the Studio Thread.
out of respect for the content of this thread.

Mellisa, I know Liza can really help you with this she does some really wonderful fairy compasitions.

Kerby,
I think this is a wonderful oppertunity, for more exposure. I would ask as mellissa has mentioned : in what context are they useing them, but if all is right, it is a wonderful teaching tool and you should be proud they want to display it. I am a fan of your work also, and this can help others as well.
I wish you the best of luck with this,
Debby


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2/26/2006 3:14:29 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Hi guys!
been out for a spell, our internet has been down.
I am about to go watch a movie with the fam, but I thought I would share the collage I was working on today...what do ya think?


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2/26/2006 6:10:16 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
 
 
  pink is for gilrs...
pink is for gilrs...
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Nikon D50 Digital ...
 
 
Hi guys!
been out for a spell, our internet has been down.
I am about to go watch a movie with the fam, but I thought I would share the collage I was working on today...what do ya think?


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2/26/2006 6:10:23 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Tonya, I really like your collage! How did you do your border?


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2/26/2006 8:01:41 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Tonya- I love the collage!! I would also like to know how you did the border. Very pretty!


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2/26/2006 8:20:33 PM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
  You guys are producing some really gorgeous stuff, but I'm still battling to even get all the pix on one page!! I've tried to follow Alisha's instructions, but....I need something thats idio proof, total beginner, I'm on PS Elements 2, so maybe some of these steps are different. THanks - I'm sooo desperate to start doing some of these collages!!!


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2/26/2006 9:01:19 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Thanks ya'll! I thought it turned out well.
The border is really easy. I just made my background layerpink, and made a copy of that and made it black. The pink is below the black in the pallet, then I "erased" the edges of the black so the pink showed through. I play around with brushes till I get the look, usually use a really "messy" brush, but it was not looking like I wanted, this brush that I settled on is one in the special effects, it looks like a daisy. The hardest part was finding the right brush.

Robyn, Elements is a bit different, I have PS7 and Elements 2.0, and I use them both depending on what I want to do. Elements is more geared for the beginner, as allot of the steps and commands and things are "preset", it is a more user friendly program, but if you can work with layers at all, you can do these. If you are not familiar with layers, elements has some great tutorials. You can open a new file and make it the size you want, the first part of Alishas instuctions would apply. You choose the color of your bacground, open up the pictures you want in your collage, resize them, and then "drag" them over(use the tool that looks like an arrow), then once you get them on your new doc, play with them to get them how you want it to look, to add text, use the text tool, if you want to make a border like I did, just make a copy of your background layer, choose another color and erase. I don't have "step by step" instructions, but I have learned allot reading tutorials online, you may can google "elements tutorials" and find some good stuff, but check out the ones in elements, they are great!
ok...off to clean house a bit. today is my "photography" day, so I will probably study and hopefully play with my lights today!


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2/27/2006 6:17:20 AM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
  THanks Tonya, I'm 'playing' lots, but not getting far :( Will keep at it though, and I'm reading everything I can, so I know I'll get there! But tomorrow afternoon I'm off to the bush for the night and the next day to look for some ellies, lions, zebra's, rhino's, leopards, bushpigs, giraffes..... :) Catch y'all on THurs/Fri. Oh, I should have my new 24-70 2.8 lens, so..... Yipppeeee !!!


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2/27/2006 7:36:51 AM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
 
 
  Precious One
Precious One
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Hi everyone - it's been pretty quiet here today!

I was working on a collage - not sure if it looks ok. Feedback would be great, if you don't mind. Not sure if I should show this one to my client or not. Thank you!


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2/27/2006 9:43:44 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Good morning everyone, I have a few minutes to post then run. I learned this new cool trick and wanted to share it. I have to find the time to put the notes together to make it as simple as possible for anyone to follow although it is very simple to do. It is a border around the photos and I like the effect it has. I am going to post a photo with the border to give you an idea how it works.

Let me know what you think.

Suzy


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2/28/2006 6:02:34 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Christine,
I think it looks good, definately show to the parents. IF you could change anything, and you might not can, but the baby in the bottom looks a little "uncomfortable", if you had a better pic of the baby you might switch them out, but if not, it still works.


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2/28/2006 7:14:40 AM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Thanks for the feedback Tonya. I'll try that.


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2/28/2006 7:24:20 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Robyn, it is so strange to be sitting on the other side of the world here and trying to fathom that you can just go to the bush and see all of these incredible wild animals. How lucky you are. The best any of us over here can do is go to a zoo and hope that the animals are out and about that day. Wow!!! Have a great adventure. I want to see your pics when you get back.


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2/28/2006 7:55:50 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  No kiddin Liza, I just realized that is what she was saying, I was wondering where this "bush" was, bush gardens? Bush zoo? LOL...and it is the REAL bush! That would be WAYY to cool.
yes robyn, you have to share!


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2/28/2006 8:22:22 AM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/19/2005
Contact Kerby
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  Since this is a child thread I was going to let everybody know I got a Picture of Today with Kodak of my eleven year old model.

On March 12 it will run in Times Square on a big billboard at the Kodak building and will be on the Kodak website.

I ran it on my website as my entry today. It called Goofy.

Kerby


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2/28/2006 8:40:54 AM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
 
 
 
Hi all, Had a bit of time to mess around today. This is the only shot that both of the "boys" would sit still and look. I got lucky.

I'll post more a bit later or maybe this weekend. I have to get ready for the state B-Ball tournament. It is 4 days long, starts tomorrow, and I will be there covering four local basketball teams for the paper. This is my first "Paying" journalist gig. They are covering my expenses. I'm excited about getting a press pass and being able to roam the baseline and get all the good shots. Ihave been doing it during the season but just at the local gyms. Now I will be at the "big" show.

Chris


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2/28/2006 1:43:55 PM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
 
 
 
This is the before picture that was supposed to be above the last post. Sorry about that. It is untouched.

Chris


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2/28/2006 1:51:22 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  i'm making a composite with two 6x6 photos. the photos are BW and have a solid black border. I want to put a a solid black line around the two of htem sort of to frame it? but not on the edge of the paper. how do I do this? anyone know? thanks,
Erinn


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2/28/2006 2:20:50 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Chris, I wonder if you had a bit less fill if you'd have a bit more DImension?
Cute "boys"! lol


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2/28/2006 2:25:10 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Kirby,
what is this? I've heard someone else say this before too... what is it? a contest? COngrats to you!
Erinn


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2/28/2006 2:26:49 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Christine, I like the collage!
Suzy, that would be cool, i'd like to see how you made the border.
Erinn


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2/28/2006 2:31:21 PM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
 
 
 
Ok I had to redo these because I realized that you can't post the same phot in two different threads. You have to upload the photos into each thread individually. Once I tried to upload the same one into two threads it pulled the photo from one thread and put it into the other.

So here we go again.


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2/28/2006 3:31:00 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
 
 
  Daddy's baby girl
Daddy's baby girl
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Thanks Erinn! I was playing around this afternoon and here's another I put together.

I also have a question - does anyone know how to remove shadow's from a picture? I had taken some against a black backdrop and wound up with a shadow...not sure how to get rid of it or blend it in to the background.


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2/28/2006 4:21:49 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Kerby, WOW I am so proud of you!!!! That is awesome, I think you discovered a little pot of gold with your awesome model friend. I have visited your gallery often just because I like so many of the images there.

Chris, maybe you know this already but you can purchase digital backgrounds that make photos look awesome. If you want I can send you one or two JPEG files that you can play and use to see the difference. Also, on your first image if you use the:

Image>Adjust?Shadow highlights
Shadows 21
Tonal 50
Radius 30

Highlights 5
Tonal width 50
Radius 30

you may see a big improvement on the first image.

Erinn, I am going to be making a composite of two ballerinas and may be needing some help with the composites.


Tutorial for the border above:
I first downloaded free borders that are
available on the web.

Open image & double click on it to make it a layer not a background.

Add a layer (looks like a page icon)
Ctl+backspace to fill with white

Layers>Add Vector mask>Hide All
go to custom shape and look for your download border.

Make sure path is selected
On white screen do your size selection
then you will see your image appear with the border around it.

For those of you doing composites, the borders add glamour to the composites.

NOTE: When doing your layer vector make sure your layer image is active

Good luck,
Suzy


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2/28/2006 4:24:00 PM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
 
 
 
Suzy, Thank you for the advice. You are right it turned out better with that slight adjustment. I would love for you to send me a couple of JPEGS of backgrounds.

Chris


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2/28/2006 4:49:41 PM

 
Nancy C. Cassell   Suzy -
Are the digital backgrounds to be used with a chroma screen? Do you know of a source that is different?

Thanks,
Nancy


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2/28/2006 5:44:05 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  tonya-i just got some kind of yahoo message thing with your name on it. I think my computer is set up to automatically delcine these and I don't know how to turn it off so please don't think I was trying to ignore you at all.


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2/28/2006 6:06:09 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Nancy, I use the extract tool then place the person in front of the backgrounds. Pretty cool, you would think they are real.

Suzy


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2/28/2006 6:06:52 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Melissa,

yeah, I just added the p101 group to my messenger list, I got a few denials, I figure that is why...
thanks though


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2/28/2006 6:09:50 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/19/2005
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  Suzy thank you very much. I was very excited about the image Kodak picked. Goofy is one of my very favorites of Keshia and it shows tons of personality.

Erinn Kodak Picture of today can be found on this site.

http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=2549&pq-locale=en_US

You submit your images to Kodak and they pick one picture each day that they run on their big billboard in Times Square outside of the Kodak building it comes on the board every few minutes. If your image is selected the image is also featured on the website above for the day selected.

You can also enter on the website above and it is Free to enter.

Kerby


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2/28/2006 6:14:25 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Okay, I am bored!
Need someone to photograph.

Started to play with the photo
and the artist (ME!!!) came out.
Just playing around with PS.

Who knows, amybe the mother would fall in love think is a masterpiece and buy it for a couple of hundreds.... does not hurt to dream a little. :)

Suzy


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2/28/2006 7:34:44 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
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I forgot to sign in. :)


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2/28/2006 7:35:42 PM

 
Melissa Cozis   How do I go about getting one of these CD templates of Liza's I see mentioned? Those look Great!


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2/28/2006 10:36:41 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  sent ya a email w/ info


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2/28/2006 10:44:16 PM

 
Melissa Cozis   Great, cuase I'm starting to feel stupid here! I'm trying to put together a collage w/ 2-3 photos I did from a wedding for my folio, and I can size them all to fit, no problem, but they just keep coming out...fugly...when I put them all together! I'm thinking, Ok, Melissa, you put the big pic in the middle or two the side, and the smaller one/ones around it in the blank space....and it looks horrid! and ya'll have such lovely stuff, so it's getting depressing! lol


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2/28/2006 11:11:05 PM

 
Melissa Cozis  
 
 
OK, I already had tons of respect for the great work here, but now that I've been trying to do one of these darned things while trying to get hte kiddies in bed, I've decided that ya'll are worship-worthy, cuase that whole process sucked!

I'm embarred to even leave this file on my poor computer, but I need to know what I'm doing wrong, so I'm gonna post it and then hide under a rock until someone tells me what I need to do to prevent further Franenphoto's monsters from crawling out of my poor mac!

(buying template cds very soon!)

Help!


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3/1/2006 12:02:40 AM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  susy, in your last photo, I love the phot comp, etc... but something about what you did to it looks off to me? her face looks funny? not your usual smooth soft thing you do.
Erinn


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3/1/2006 5:52:46 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Mellissa,
Your being hardon your self, the colors are great the one top left I think has to be a croped closer, but really this can be very nice!
Liza has a classy style that just seems to fall out on to her computer palete. I know she can help you and you are probubly not to far off the mark.
I am going to email her a note to check in, she has been working on ad's on the temples to drop into the "Studio CD" so I can send it to Print.
I love using her templetes, because when I am Busy, busy or have a big job,
I can just open them up along with the pictures I am using and drop them in.
And Print!
I can make collages for a full boat of golfers 144 in 2 hours.and thats with cropping pictures and printing!
I think anyone would enjoy them, an dthen when not preasured you can go back and work on your own art work!
hope this helps,
Debby


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3/1/2006 6:01:04 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Melissa, your post had me laughing so hard. You have a wonderful way of conveying your feelings, even via internet. Debby is right, you are being way too hard on yourself. The colors are really beautiful. Let's do a phone call lesson and tweak your collage. Will tomorrow night after 9:00 work for you? I'd offer tonight, but I've been sucked into LOST and don't want to miss it.

I love how Debby brought up such a great point about the cds. They were made to help fellow photographers. Some people buy them because they are quick and easy when you're in a hurry to create something nice for your clients. Others buy them because they don't have the time or inclination to mess with collages. Like Debby said, when not in a hurry, kick back and explore and have fun with your own creative side. Sometimes just seeing one idea will spark another one. I leave the templates in open layers so that you can mix and match layers with other templates from the set. On most you also have the option to change Color/Hue.

I've had a lot of computer trouble trying to update the website. Finally got one of them to cooperate. The new template cds are now on the website. The two Pro Studio cds will be following shortly. These will encompass studio business forms (releases, contracts)and advertising layouts (business cards, fliers.)

You can check them all out at lizafranco.com and go to Template Samples.

Have a great day everyone. I'm off to go take more pictures of tractors. BORING!!! Maybe I'll get lucky and find a cute little country boy to sit up on top of one. Without people in it, just plain ol' boring to me.


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3/1/2006 7:20:14 AM

 
Melissa Cozis   Debby - I saw the templates, and once I got past "those are gorgeous! how come I can't do that!?!?!" I morphed right into "damn it, I must have one!!!! Argghhh!!!'' Unfortunately, I promised my dear fiance that I'd limit photo related purchases to only that which I can pay for out of my business account until after the wedding, since that is costing us a fortune, and I haven't done ANY business since December:-S What little I have in my account right now has to go to props for the pin up calendar I'm shooting - but I'm hoping to have them by months end, lol (ok, I cheated - I spent $20 on a diaper bag/camera case day before yesterday, but that counts as clothes too....;) )

Liza - I love the idea of having something on hand for those times when I'm swamped and don't want to slow the work flow, which is why I'll invest in templates. But, I'd love the call, as I'm really a DIY type...I'm one of those girls who would rather spend $60 on craft supplies and spend 20 hours doing it my self than spend $45 and 2 hours shopping to find it ready made, lol. Plus, when I actually WANT to do PS (which, admittedly, in my busy season never happens) I really want to DO PS! lol So any expertise that might help me to conquer the evil of collaging and excorcise the "I don't know what the hades I'm doing here!" demons from the work is greatly appreciated. I'm central time (Texas ya'll!) so I'm not sure what time zone you're in, but I'm generally up until 2-3 am any way so it doesn't really matter. I'll private message you my number, or you can send me yours and I'll call you on my dime:)

Just one question - Do I need to have Holy Water and a Cruxifix on hand when we start this??

(PS - I totally understand Tractor picts! Dad is a farmer, lol! Deffintely helps to have either an adorable 4 year in nothin' but over alls and and a hat, or an ...adorable... 25 year old in nothing but overalls and a hat!')


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3/1/2006 7:58:57 AM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Good Morning,
Hi Liza,
Yeah, I know what Debby means not having the time, my brother inlaw is getting married in April so I need your wedding templates, are they easy enough for anyone to do? I have lots going on til' May soooooo I sure don't have the time.
Melissa,
Your collage looks GREAT to me, but I'm sure after you talk to Liza she'll help you make it look ever better. I think you done a good job on it.


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3/1/2006 8:01:33 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Melissa, you are pretty darn funny!
I agree about the tractor pics, my hubby is a farmer...I have trouble getting inspiration from our outdoors around these parts, cotton and dirt. the sunsets are the only thing pretty around most of the time and they are so overdone that you don't feel like you are really photograping something, ya know?
But I think a 25 yr old and a hat...leave the overalls (blush) or well, maybe just some jeans...LOL
Where are you in Texas Melissa?
I am Texas proud out here in the west, just south of Lubbock.


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3/1/2006 8:49:38 AM

 
Melissa Cozis   I'm up on the Red River Tonya - Sherman/Denison (we've got great bridges up here, lol)- just far enough South not to interact w/ the "Yankee" Oklahomians too much (I kid - my future b-i-l is an okie, and I love him, lol) , and just far enough North to appreciate which side of the river I'm on! I was born here, but my "evil" yankee mother (ok, she's not really evil, lol - I love my mom - but she DID take me outta TX and I might not ever forgive that!! lol) took me to AZ for eleven years when I was a kid, but I ran back to God's state just as soon as I possibly could, and I've been here ever since! I love everything about this state, becuase if I stay where I'm at I've got the Red, if I go east I've got the swamps, south-west I've got the desert, and south I've got the ocean! I have a friend in Wales who always asks when I'm coming out to God's Country (we're going to Wales for the honeymoon if we can afford it) and I always tell him, "I'm already there - but I might visit you for a while too!" lol.

Sandra, thanks for the compliment! I'm hoping after Liza is thru Edjimucating me, I'll have something better to show from it!


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3/1/2006 9:00:06 AM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Goodmorning everyone!!

I just though I would mention that there is someone on ebay selling cd's, for photography. (not sure what they are exactly). But alot of people are saying they aren't very good and have been throwing them out. Please be careful if you're bidding online. You never know what you're going to get.

Anyway, I'm still trying to figure PS out, and working on my new brochures. But I'm watching!! lol


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3/1/2006 9:07:03 AM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
 
 
 
Erinn, finally got a minute to post, if I am thinking rightly you want to frame two pics on a larger size but don't want the border to be at the edge but slightly in a bit, am I right?

Here's how I would do it....

Get you large page that you want the two pics on and place the pics at even distance.. select the rectangle marguee tool and frame the pics, the use the tool where you want the frame to be.. you frame by selecting edit, then stroke, select your sze, for mine I used 25% on the outside, hope this makes sense of this is what you want, I just went to do this to give you an example and the pics are not lined properly but I still need my coffee.. debbie


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3/1/2006 9:08:31 AM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
 
 
 
Erinn, finally got a minute to post, if I am thinking rightly you want to frame two pics on a larger size but don't want the border to be at the edge but slightly in a bit, am I right?

Here's how I would do it....

Get you large page that you want the two pics on and place the pics at even distance.. select the rectangle marguee tool and frame the pics, the use the tool where you want the frame to be.. you frame by selecting edit, then stroke, select your sze, for mine I used 25% on the outside, hope this makes sense of this is what you want, I just went to do this to give you an example and the pics are not lined properly but I still need my coffee.. debbie


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3/1/2006 9:08:58 AM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Hey Melissa,
I am from Texas too. I am right outside of Dallas. I have one of Liza's templete cd's and I really enjoy it.


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3/1/2006 9:20:08 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  In regards to Dawns Post,
Yes you do have to be careful, this one for example:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Build-The-Studio_W0QQitemZ7594559547QQcategoryZ4685QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

his items are cheap, and you really have to look at feedback, etc. and then ask, what is your background.
He just released this book. And it would be intresting to see, since I have compiled information for over 12 years. Who knows? you just have to ask.
and KNOW your seller-I know there is some one(and I will find the link)that is selling templets as well, but they are so hard to use! there is no hole to slide the image into-it's like a 8x10 and you have to figure how and where to put the holes and set the pictures,I found it VERY hard!
but if you really read the Ads, and ask the seller about thier backround and experiance you should be ok.
as with anything on line.


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3/1/2006 9:24:05 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  oh and one more thing, especialy with the posing cd's : make sure they show you in the ad what you will see in the CD.
if they show you thier talent in the ad then they will most likely discribe and show you how to angle and give you images to copy from.
if there is none in the ad- chances are you aren't getting much instuction.
there are 3 like that posting now.
When I wrote mine there was no one, now there are I think about 5-6.
so yes Dawn is right you have to really look.


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3/1/2006 9:30:17 AM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Hi Dawn,
Thanks for the info, I know you said you didn't know who was selling the bad cds but if you know someone who bought one or who told you would you PLEASE find out and let us know. My mother inlaw and I buy lots from e-bay and sure would help if we knew.
Thanks Sandra


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3/1/2006 9:58:21 AM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
 
 
 
Just catching up - you all had me rolling on the floor - Melissa 'fugly' is a hugely popular word here!! No I wasn't at Bush Gardens (!!) but at the game reserve next to Sun City, in the Pilanesburg Game Reserve, 2 hours drive north of Johannesburg, S'effrica:) We've had soooo much rain, and the grass is really long, so we battled to have good sightings (some giraffe, zebra, rhino, lots of impala/buck etc) - we were with family from the UK, so there was plenty Oooohing and aaaahing! Here are my 2 fave's. Dawn, I love that border - you said you 'download' borders from the net - which border, and which site?
and Kerby, that sounds like a WONDERDFUL achievement, many congratulations! Will check out the website, when I can keep my eyes open (tomorrow??) :)


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3/1/2006 10:40:29 AM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
 
 
 
Just catching up - you all had me rolling on the floor - Melissa 'fugly' is a hugely popular word here!! No I wasn't at Bush Gardens (!!) but at the game reserve next to Sun City, in the Pilanesburg Game Reserve, 2 hours drive north of Johannesburg, S'effrica:) We've had soooo much rain, and the grass is really long, so we battled to have good sightings (some giraffe, zebra, rhino, lots of impala/buck etc) - we were with family from the UK, so there was plenty Oooohing and aaaahing! Here are my 2 fave's. Dawn, I love that border - you said you 'download' borders from the net - which border, and which site?
and Kerby, that sounds like a WONDERDFUL achievement, many congratulations! Will check out the website, when I can keep my eyes open (tomorrow??) :)


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3/1/2006 10:51:42 AM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
 
 
 
Robyn - I love your photos. The deer jumping over the warthogs is just really cool... and the second one had me laughing outloud.

I thought I'd share my recent "sighting." This is about as exotic as it gets in south eastern pennsylvania (I was back visiting my parents). I love zoom lenses!

Sorry this isn't a child photo. Whoops.


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3/1/2006 8:55:23 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Robyn- I just cracked up when I saw that "Scratch and Sniff" photo. That's hilariously sick. LOL

Danielle- Beautiful shot!!!


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3/1/2006 9:43:59 PM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Hi Dawn,
Thanks for the info, I know you said you didn't know who was selling the bad cds but if you know someone who bought one or who told you would you PLEASE find out and let us know ? My mother inlaw and I buy lots from e-bay and sure would help if we knew.
Thanks Sandra


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3/2/2006 12:35:58 AM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Thanks Debbie, that is what i'm trying to do, i'll try what you suggested.
Erinn


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3/2/2006 9:10:51 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  I wanted to post this here as well:
Ok, This is Intresting- I received a Offer From Briteck, To sell thier equiptment, after talking about putting it in the book/Cd.
This won't be a big saveings at first because I can't sell as much as Steve-But it does mean that I can Custom Build a kit out of thier good products with out You haveing to buy Only what he offers and or pay larger prices per head.
I do hope this will help.


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3/2/2006 10:02:48 AM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
 
 
 
Robyn, what amazing pictures...I love 'scratch and sniff'!!!!! Too funny!!!!

I am so 'collage-happy' right now.....here's another one...


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3/2/2006 3:11:01 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
 
 
  Baby Boy
Baby Boy
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Robyn, what amazing pictures...I love 'scratch and sniff'!!!!! Too funny!!!!

I am so 'collage-happy' right now.....here's another one...


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3/2/2006 3:11:02 PM

 
Nancy C. Cassell   Christine - I like your design. You did a great job mixing the baby in the baskets and the shots without. It also looks good that all the corner shots are facing in. You could be an art director!

To everyone who uses poems - do you worry about the writer's copyright? Are there resources that have poems that are free use? I like when they are incorporated with photos, but don't know what the rules are. Thanks for any information.

Nancy


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3/2/2006 9:39:50 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
 
 
  Timeless
Timeless
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  Grandpa & Me
Grandpa & Me
© Dawn T. Palmerley
Pentax MZ-30 35mm ...
 
 
Hello everyone!!! I hope you are all doing well.

I have a favor to ask you all.......
Last year I competed in an art gallery exhibition. There were 59 artists, and 4 of us won the Award of Excellence. I won for my "Reflections of a Rebel" photo. (It's in my gallery)
Anyway, the next one is coming up and so far I have 2 possibilites for my entry (can only pick 1). Can you all help me decide on these two photos so I can try to narrow it down. I might not even go with either if I find something better. But please tell me what you think of either photo.
Thanks!!


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3/3/2006 7:19:18 PM

 
Nancy C. Cassell   Hi Dawn - I like the first one the best


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3/3/2006 7:46:09 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Dawn, They are both great! really wonderful. I think it depends on the "style" you think would go over well in the comp. I love the boys expression.. oh my, priceless... this photo definately "tells a story"
the first one is def. timeless... but I guess the 2nd is a bit more powerful.


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3/3/2006 8:08:49 PM

 
Melissa Cozis  
 
  A Study in Eriny - Umbrellas
A Study in Eriny - Umbrellas
My daughter Erin entertaining herself with our big beach umbrella.
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Liza, I SO enjoyed talking to you! thanks! However, I think I was lost at "double emboss". lol. Will post a new result soon.

In the meantime, this one is my "Study in Erin"


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3/3/2006 8:32:48 PM

 
Melissa Cozis  
 
 
OK, might have kinda sorta figured out the double emboss, not sure...but here we go. Frankenphoto is now more like "the slightly homely duckling" that is working on becoming a swan. It ain't perfect, but I'm much happier with this edition ya'll.

Any advice?


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3/3/2006 9:44:05 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Nancy and Erinn- Thanks! I'm writing down the votes. lol (I know...crazy)

Melissa- I love the umbrella collage! Now with the wedding one......I think it would look so much better with white surrounding it. Is there any particular reason you chose green? I think it takes away from the bride. Whereas white would be a more delicate, more fitting color choice.
Just my suggestions. :)


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3/3/2006 10:37:37 PM

 
Liz Hincka   Dawn, I like the boy with Grandpa, but my fav is the little girl. It is so soft and pretty. Either way, good luck on your contest!!


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3/4/2006 1:55:05 PM

 
Melissa Cozis   Dawn~
I went with the green for a couple of reasons. To begin with, the green in the leaves was such a pretty & unusual color (the green of the leaves in the original photo is difuesd by the white of the vignette) that I really felt drawn to it. The wedding colors were a pale, sping-like yellow and black - I thought the yellow didn't look right, but the green was very complementary to the colors of the weeding. Also, the white didn't provide any real contrast to me. I wanted a little contrast in the photo. Also, I find, that for me anyway, doing things that are unexpected appeal to me more. Finally, there is a big trend in weddings in general (I'm getting married in June, so practically live with a new copy of the most popular bridal magazine in my purse at any given time, lol) that is stepping away from the traditional white - Wedding cakes are using dark chocolate icing, the biggest colors of this year are bright, fruity, even neon shades of lime green, magenta, or tangerine, even wedding dresses are being accented with brightly colored sashes and bows. I thought I'd give this a try to see how it would work with the trends this year. (Have to keep a handle on the traditional styles tho - everything will proabably change by winter! lol)

Still, I've talked to a few other photographers lately and gotten the same mixed reactions - some tell me they love the color, and others tell me it won't be widely accepted, so I'll probably give it a go later on with white - it is a more fitting wedding color, and should get a nice review.:)

Thanks for the help:D


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3/4/2006 10:41:55 PM

 
Melissa Cozis   Dawn~

OMG, they're lovely! Is there a theme? It's so hard to choose without knowing what exactly the theme is...

The little girl is beautiful, a lovely photo. But I agree that the picture of the grandfather and the boy is a fantastic image - it catches the moment perfectly, and the expressions on their faces is perfect. Outstanding job.

Melissa


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3/4/2006 10:51:00 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  What happened to everyone?? It's so quiet in here.

Thanks Melissa! There's no theme but last year when I won, the judge told me that there aren't enough photographers that stick with caputuring moments and expressions. So I was going for that. Which I tended towards the Grandpa & Me one for that reason.


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3/7/2006 9:18:45 AM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
 
 
 
I think I'm getting ready for bed when you're all waking up your side of the world!! I've been editing since my nieces wedding on Sat and am buggered!!! Here are a couple of the pix, and there are more in my gallery - I'd love some crits/comments, but don't have too much time to u/load (there are 920 pix to sort through.....aaaaaaaaargh!!) So any comments would be great. Also, whats the best way to keep the colours in the bouquet, and de-colour the rest of the pic? Thanks all


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3/7/2006 9:55:04 AM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
  I think I'm getting ready for bed when you're all waking up your side of the world!! I've been editing since my nieces wedding on Sat and am buggered!!! Here are a couple of the pix, and there are more in my gallery - I'd love some crits/comments, but don't have too much time to u/load (there are 920 pix to sort through.....aaaaaaaaargh!!) So any comments would be great. Also, whats the best way to keep the colours in the bouquet, and de-colour the rest of the pic? Thanks all. Sorry there's no button to call up the pix I want, so if anyones got the time please squizz my gallery - Yours in squintness!


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3/7/2006 9:56:33 AM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/19/2005
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  Dawn I read your bio and I know you done modeling. Is a picture on billboard that flashes every few minutes (Kodak) for one day considered a tearsheet or does it have to be a print ad? Kerby


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3/7/2006 9:58:53 AM

 
Melissa Cozis   Robyn -

What are you editing in (software program)? I'm familiar w/ two -three, and will PM you some instructions if it's one I'm familiar with. I use that technique quite a bit.

Melissa


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3/7/2006 10:08:59 AM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
 
 
  Radiance
Radiance
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I'm currently on PS4 - here are some attempts - I have NO IDEA how I did some of the framing!!! :O)


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3/7/2006 10:54:56 AM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Melissa - instead of PMing her... could you post it for all of us to see? I think enough people would like to know and if they don't... they can skip it. :) Thanks!


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3/7/2006 11:27:11 AM

 
Melissa Cozis   Robyn,

Tried to email you thru your contact page w/ instructions - got bounced back to me. Is there another address I can send it to, or would you like me to post it? It's a little long.

Melissa


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3/7/2006 11:28:10 AM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
  For some reason my server bounces it, yet when I plug my laptop in at work, its there, but I don't get it at home tonight :( try robyn@cinet.co.za. Thanks :)


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3/7/2006 11:35:05 AM

 
Melissa Cozis   LOL! guess Danielle answered that;)

Ok, it's kinda long, and if you get stuck (I get verbous!) just catch me on yahoo anytime - glad to help, and then it will be "realtime" and I can clarify. Also, I get real simple (ying-yang tool to describe "layer adjustment") for people who aren't as familiar - I'm not talking down to anyone, just trying to be descriptive. Catch me on yahoo or ask here, I'll clarify. This should work for ANY adobe PS or PSE that has the adjustment layer option OR masking option - it doesn't require both options, just one or the other.


You're in PS 4? Can you do masking in PS 4? Masking is the easiest and most effective/attractive route. If you have the mask feature (bottom of the layers menu, you should have a circle that looks somewhat like a ying-yang) it's a breeze.

1. Make a duplicate layer (drag your layer down to the "new layer" icon on the layers menu - should be the second from the right) (This is just a backup/safety mechanism.)

2. Click the ying/yang (adjustment layer) icon and select "hue/Saturation" from the menu.

3. Move your saturation slider all the way to zero (far left) so the whole image is grey-scale and hit OK

4. Hit "B" (for brush), "D" (for default - should give you the black and white colors in your color box on the left, under tools), and "X" (for exchange? lol) if need be to put the Black in the foreground and white in the background.

5. Use the black brush to paint over anything you want in Color - this will restore the color from the layer below.

6. If you make a mistake and color something that should be black and white, type "X" to make the brush white and paint over that area with white - it "erases" the color.

7. When you've painted it all this way, I reccommend using the opacity slider on the layers palette to fade the adjustment layer so the colors are the transparency you want.

8. If you want some colors brighter than others, click the "new layer Icon" and hold down Control and ALT WHILE selecting "merge visible" (you must press them WHILE merging visible) - this will give you a new layer that looks like the combo of the ones below without merging all of them. Then repeat steps 2-7 . In step 3, however, don't slide it all the way to the left - just move the hue until the lightest colors are the very lightest that you want them. Then use the black brush to paint the brighter tones back in.

9. alt-cntrl-merge visible, sharpen as needed, make any other edits as normal.


That may have been long/confusing. Feel free to im me at lcozis on yahoo messenger (any time) or rgrannon on aol (only today - I'm at work, using boss-mans computer, lol) and I'll walk thru it with you.

HTH
Melissa


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3/7/2006 11:36:05 AM

 
Melissa Cozis  
 
  Hand-painted sample
Hand-painted sample
sloppy and quick, but you get the point, lol. VERY easy process.
© Melissa Cozis
Miscellaneous Does...
 
 
Here's a quick example of the result - I'm at work, so I don't have any of my already done ones


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3/7/2006 11:43:59 AM

 
Melissa Cozis   If you notice, around baby's head and the butterfly's wing, there is some of the flower color - that would be erased w/ the white brush. I reccommend blowing it up to about 200% before you finish off an adjustment layer and fill in or erase any missing spots (this is important - bor example, if you hand color a man in a black tux, and you miss/don't recolor a black part - it comes out GREEN in that spot.) - that way you don't have those sloppy edges like this one does (Hey, I was ina hurry! lol) That's also the reason for using adjustment layers and for putting a merged visible layer between the adj. layers - you can go back and fix the layers without re-working the whole pic! Layers & masking tools are my best friends, lol. However, if you finish it off, flatten, save it, and then find blank spots or spots that were colored by mistake, it's still salvageable with out starting over - simply use color replacement ool to fill in blank/colorless spots that should have been colored. To rease a color that should be colorless, simply make a new hue/sat. adjustment layer, repaint the parts that should be colored, and correct mistakes - very quick, simple fix.

I know, I know....I'll shut up now, unless anyone has questions.


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3/7/2006 11:56:10 AM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
  Wow, thats great - but its now 10pm here, and i'm heading for bed - I've been to bed most nights around midnight, and I'm just too tired to think!! I've copied and printed this 'recipe' and added it to my BP Recipe file! Thanks so much for your help. Any comments on my attempts/colouring/hue/saturation etc would be appreciated, as I don't have a calibrated monitor, so I hope they look ok.


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3/7/2006 12:10:01 PM

 
Melissa Cozis   Hope it helps Robyn. (I forgot that my Study in Erin - Umbrella above is this 'hand-painted technique) I hear ya' on those late nights _ I was up til almost 3 last night, and 4 the night before - our regular bed time is 1-2 am, lol. Anyway, I'd be glad to offer tips when you get some up. Holler if something isn't clear.


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3/7/2006 12:16:39 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  hey all you ps'ers...I want to know how to do the bright eye thingie!
there are some people that do eyes like they just pop right off the page, anyone know that trick?


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3/7/2006 12:32:10 PM

 
Melissa Cozis   I do this for every portrait - there are a couple of easy ways.

1. Select the iris (colored part of the eye) using either magic wand or Color Range Select (best option). Go to Hue/Saturation and increase saturation in the colrs of the eye - for example, for blue eyes, use green, cyan, and blue, mostly blue.

2. Use magic want or color select, select the iris, then use Color Replacement tool to choose a brighter shade of the eye color and color over the eyes.

When you've done that, select the whites of the eyes, and use hue/stauration do de saturate a little - - no a lot - just maybe to -30 or so. Move the Lightness up to somewhere between 10 & 30%. Not too much - remember, eye whites are grey, not white. Don't make the whites glow.

Finally, take your dodge tool (or is it burn...the one that makes things lighter, lol!) and go lightly over the catch lights in the eyes. Not too much, but enough to make them stand out.

That should make them pop. give me a sec, I'll post a before and after pic if I have something avail.


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3/7/2006 1:02:50 PM

 
Melissa Cozis  
 
 
Step 1 - either saturate or replace color of iris - - here, I replaced it with an aqua color that she (the model) loves to show exactly what I'm doing. For a portrait, you would use a less...obvious color;)

Step 2. I've whitened the eye whites

Step 3/final step - brightened the catch lights, and flattened image.


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3/7/2006 1:14:40 PM

 
Melissa Cozis  
 
 
Sorry, didn't sign fully in:

Step 1 - either saturate or replace color of iris - - here, I replaced it with an aqua color that she (the model) loves to show exactly what I'm doing. For a portrait, you would use a less...obvious color;)

Step 2. I've whitened the eye whites

Step 3/final step - brightened the catch lights, and flattened image.


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3/7/2006 1:19:00 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Hey Melissa, thanks...that is cool, I am going to go play with that for a while.

But look at the photos in this gallery
http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/gallery.asp?mem=59652
when I first saw a pic with those eyes, I thought they were breathtaking, but all the eyes in her gallery have that shiney, glassy, pop off the page quality, I think she must be doing something to enhance them, I have also seen this quality in other pics..
I emailed maria and asked her to share, but she never emaile dme back.
I would love to know what she did.


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3/7/2006 1:37:25 PM

 
Deb Brown
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/20/2003
  Hey Melissa and Tonya:

I have been following, but not much time to respond...gosh, I don't know how some do it! Anyway about the eyes---have either of you even used the lasso tool and smart sharpen. Lighting and focus play a huge role in how glassy/crip the eyes are, but I use this technique on my not so great shots. If you'd like, I can post some examples. I get big on the eyes now after reading that the eyes are the ONE thing that must be in focus or the blur is totally noticable. If something else is out of focus, blur is not as noticable.


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3/7/2006 1:52:43 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  I would love to see some examples Deb, thanks!


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3/7/2006 2:15:36 PM

 
Melissa Cozis   Deb,

Sorry - didn't mention sharpening, lol. I don't use the lasso tool too often - I prefer the pen tool, but lasso is good for eyes:) I didn't think to mention sharpening, becuase I have it set into my auto function my workflow. On every pic, the first step is an auto task that includes sharpening. No matter how good your digi image is, it is by nature a softer image than a film would be. So, I automatically use unsharp mask on the entire picture and set the settings to 100/1.0/0. Then I edit as needed and then resharpen again in final steps as needed using unsharp mask and a variant of the 100/1/0 setting (might be 107/1.2/0, might be 97/1.5/0, what ever). I'll usually use a mask on the layer to restrict sharpening to areas where it's needed more.

Tonya,

Deb is right - sharpening makes a world of difference. I'm at work, so using crappy file images. Looking at the gallery you linked, I'd say (though she is far advanced over me!) that she's still using a variant of the technique above - she's enhancing iris color, enhancing eye whites and catch lights (she has GREAT catch lights too, which can't be imitated in PS - that's a result of good lighting on her part!). She also seems to be burning (darkening one lol) the lashes and eye rims...applying PS mascara and eyeliner if you will - by using the darkening tool (burn?) in a small diameter at the lashes and where the eyeliner would be...this increases the contrast and makes the eyes stand out more.

The big thing here tho is the catch lights - those are what lets us know someone is alive and has a spark, so having glorius catchlights will outway any photoshop work. When I get home, I'll try to find a better image and try to replicate a little better, tho it won't be NEARLY as lovely as hers are.


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3/7/2006 2:23:11 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Hey, Tonya! I use the magnetic lasso & unsharp mask in PS on my eyes. They aren't as clear and detailed as the ones in the gallery you posted. I think she must brighten & increase sharpness and saturation on them, but the detail is something that is harder to get. DEFINITELY light and crisp focus on the eyes makes a difference.


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3/7/2006 2:24:11 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
 
 
 
she is awesome isn't she?!
her pictures take my breath away.

here is one I worked on following tips, I only did one eye so the difference can really be seen side by side


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3/7/2006 2:44:35 PM

 
Melissa Cozis   Beautiful image! The changes help. The eyes are drawn directly to the flowers though, becuase they are sharper (the colors are gorgeous, and the detial is amazing). I was told to focus on the eyes in any image where I want the person to be key, so I train my little red focus dot on the closest eyes when ever possible (Canon). I think lightening the whites a little more, adding some contrast between iris and pupil (if her eyes are blue or green, lighten them to a paler color to provide the contrast. If they're brown, try adding some yellow, green, and orange and sliding the lightness adjuster to the right a little to make them a more gold color that can be differentiated between the iris and pupil maybe). You might increase the catch lith JUST a little. Defintely follow what deb said about sharpening though!

The darkening on the lashes stands out and helps a lot. She really is lovely. The colors and composition are beautiful. It really has that innocence and youth to it with out being a "little kid" kind of innocence.


I just LOVE the colors in those flowers!


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3/7/2006 3:03:13 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  WOW...this thread has been hopin today:) I am still around as well..just busy! I was in Colorado last week & then been editing a 1 1/2 year old little boys pics that I took last Thursday.

I have new storyboards & pics of the little boy if anyone would like to see them:) HE was SUCH a FABULOUS little guy to photograph! HAPPY & CONTENT!!!:)


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3/7/2006 4:04:59 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Melissa,
thanks so much! I really love this pic to.
and when I was reading my msg, it looks like I was saying she-my bride-is amazing, I was acctually talking about maria, the pics we were looking at...didn't want to sound egotistical about my work there,,,,LOL
this pic, her eyes are very dialated, which I love, and can't believe I got without an ounce of redeye, so it makes it hard to make the changes pop out. But mainly I was just trying to do it, I want those eyes maria creates!!


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3/7/2006 5:30:57 PM

 
Deb Brown
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/20/2003
 
 
 
Okay...I am going to try and post a couple of examples of the smart sharpening of the eyes. The first post of my daughter is the type of image I strive for everytime...so I don't have to smart sharpen. Just an example of how the eyes need to be in focus. The next two are examples of with and without the smart sharpen...you can see the difference. I am by NO MEANS an expert in this field, and am hoping to learn more from all of you! There's SO MUCH to learn that sometimes my head is spinning....oh and BTW, I re-read my last post and see so many spelling errors (I really CAN spell) but my kids keep me busy and there's almost never anytime to proofread! I didn't mean to say "even" try the smart sharpen...meant to say "ever" try it. Sounded kind of snobby when I went back and saw that....sorry.


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3/7/2006 6:17:05 PM

 
Deb Brown
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/20/2003
 
 
  No need for smart sharpen- Untouched.
No need for smart sharpen- Untouched.
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  Eyes not sharp enough BEFORE smartsharpen
Eyes not sharp enough BEFORE smartsharpen
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  Eyes AFTER smartsharpen
Eyes AFTER smartsharpen
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I need a class on trying to successfully post- ugh!


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3/7/2006 6:19:41 PM

 
Deb Brown
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/20/2003
  I am such a nit wit.
I didn't save the smart sharpen image, so you won't see any difference.
Hold on. I will do it now, and post the smart sharpen example. Then, I obviously need to get to bed!


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3/7/2006 6:26:42 PM

 
Deb Brown
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  With smartsharpen
With smartsharpen
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Here I go again...hopefully you can see the difference. If not, I am not sure why b/c I can see it off the post.

Alisha- thanks for all of your very nice comments- you are always so descriptive and I appreciate it! I am going to look at your storyboards RIGHT NOW.


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3/7/2006 6:34:49 PM

 
Deb Brown
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/20/2003
  Hey---where'd everybody go? Am I in here alone? American Idol has already gone off LOL.

Alisha- LOVE,LOVE,LOVE your storyboards. They certainly reflect your talent and creativity! Tell me, on the 10x15 storyboard, how did you get the black line to go all the way around, but stop at the bottom so you could squeeze Jack's name in between? Also, love your framing. Glad you shared the size of the storyboard, too- it always helps me when I am viewing!
I know Jack's parents will be happy they chose you to photograph their little boy.


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3/7/2006 6:47:41 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Hi Deb...I'm here!!!:) THANKS for the compliment!!!

On that 10x15 what I do is put the border & everything how I like & then you just take your eraser tool & erase what part you don't want & then I just type the name.

If you need to know on how to get the border I just make a NEW CANVAS...then put the border around that canvas & then use the move tool to MOVE that on the canvas I'm working on & then drag the corners to where I want the frame to be...THEN erase the line where I want text to be:) HOPE that makes sense!!!:)

THANKS AGAIN!! I appreciate it!!!!:)


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3/7/2006 6:58:45 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Alisha - I agree. Your storyboards are excellent and the photos are SO cute. :) I have a question, though. I notice that the majority of your pics (and most of the photographer's here) are of kids playing and doing what they do and not too many of the kids looking at the camera and smiling. Granted, I love these shots and often prefer them as I think most child photographers do. But in my experience (which, granted, is in a department store portrait studio) I find that a lot of parents don't like them. All they want is the sit and smile shot and occassionally they will buy one or two of the other ones. So my question is... when you do a shoot like you did with Jack where almost all of the pictures are him playing... what do the parents buy? Do you find that you successfully sell those kinds of photos? This is something I worry about because while at the portrait studio it's very easy for me to control the camera and take pictures... if I were actually holding my camera and having to look through it... it would be a whole different story.

I'm rambling. I think you get the point. I'd be curious to hear from all of you about this. Thanks!


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3/7/2006 7:10:34 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Kirby- I don't think I can help you with that. I checked on the internet and couldn't find anything. Sorry! Can they tell you on that site?


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3/7/2006 7:14:01 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Deb, great shots. Do you follow similar steps like Melissa? I will have to try that because they all look so great. Also, what lenses do you use for your closeups on the faces? I have the D70 and am always looking for recommendations from other users. :)

Alisha, your storyboards are great. I really liked the vertical one that you did. I think I'm going to have to disappear for a week and just concentrate on mastering those! You do an amazing job on them.

Danielle, I agree with you. I really love those candid random shots but wonder what parents will think. I'm guessing that most of the photographers will love them and those that may not think as creatively as others will not appreciate them. My father looked at one of my pics (family walking hand in hand away from me) and was like "why?" . I just laughed at him. He said he could see how someone would like it, it just wasn't his style.

I see alot on BP & other sites that are just great but then I wonder how would they ever get sold in our area. I just don't know if everyone here would "get it".

(haha... now I'm rambling!)

We're watching VH1 100 best toys.... my hubby & I are cracking up over all these toys that we remember playing with and loving! Weebles, Baby Alive, Evil Knivel; Risk, Gumby (I have two in my closet stil); haha we're loving it!

Night everyone!


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3/7/2006 7:18:41 PM

 
Kerby Pfrangle
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  Dawn that a good idea. I guess I write and ask them, never thought of that.

Thank you, Dawn. Kerby


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3/7/2006 7:19:22 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Danielle....here is the e-mail from the mother of the little boy...

Well HELLO “photographer extraordinaire!!!” Oh my gosh…..there are so many great photos! When I got home…I couldn’t wait to see them. Case agrees…Wow! You managed to capture Jack’s CUTENESS! Hee hee! We are not sure that we can narrow it down to only a few favorites…there are so many fantastic shots! After looking over the price list, it doesn’t appear that you sell the disc of photos. Is that something you would consider? If so, what’s the going rate?

THANK YOU THANK YOU AGAIN….you are so great!!

This is ONLY MY opinion, BUT I don't like posed shots so much! If it were my child I like the playing/capturing him as him. The posed shots remind me of Wal-Mart/sears & such & I just don't like those shots. Other people around me who knows I take pictures like the unposed shots. I know some people do, BUT my clients know my style & if they like that style then they'll choose me if they not then they won't. EVERYONE has different feelings with what they like:) BUT this is my style & let me tell ya what it was MUCH easier to let the little guy play than to move him & put him somewhere cause he would cry. WHY have a ton of CRYING baby pics cause they don't want you putting THEM where YOU want them.....THEY just want to play. EACH age though is different. I want the child happy not mad!! This is just my opinion on it!!!:)


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3/7/2006 7:20:14 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Brenda...THANKS..I truly enjoy creating storyboards/collages!! They are fun!

I do have to say that the MEN in my life...hubby, uncle, FIL, BIL.. & such don't GET the walking away shots & can't see the face shots, BUT the mom's LOVE those shots. I LOVE THOSE SHOTS!...LOL!!!!


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3/7/2006 7:25:57 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  If only all parents agreed with you, Alisha, my job would be so much easier. You wouldn't believe how many times a day I have to sit through watching a poor screaming child and mom or dad trying to coax it to sit still and smile for the camera. They don't seem to realize that the kid is going to look terrible after all that crying.

Ah well. Guess I'm just feeling frustrated with parents today.

I love your shots, though. I hope the parents buy a ton. :)


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3/7/2006 7:28:42 PM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  hey everyone, sorry I have been lurking, trying to keep up with all the threads..
about the gallery that everyone is talking about, can you even believe that she is only a 16 year old.. my mouth almost fell to the floor, I got alot to learn .. just to put in my two cents.. debbie


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3/7/2006 7:48:42 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Danielle...you said you worked in a department store studio...it's probably harder to just let a child "PLAY" & take the picture. That's why I just like having my own little "HOME STUDIO" & the child plays in the room & also going to the child's home on location works cause they're familiar in their own environment. I've struggled myself back in the day when my sil & I took our 2 kids to JcPenney's to get their pics taken...TWICE we did & it was a MISERABLE experience. Trying to get the kid to not cry & sit there is a DISASTER!!!!! ESPECIALLY when they're old enough to walk:) I'm not sure if you have your own little photography side business or not, BUT if & when you do you'll see it's easier then being in a dept studio with children. The parents are just sooo much more relaxed as is the children:)


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3/7/2006 7:50:05 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Alisha- I just love those pics of Jack. They are adorable!! Awesome job! I love how his jeans stand out in some of them. How did you do that? (The black ones)


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3/7/2006 7:51:19 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Hi Dawn...THANKS!! It is a b&w action I use. Located here.. http://www.atncentral.com/download.htm. Scroll down & you'll see dragon action by Mike Warren & that's the action I use. I then go and adjust the levels, curves, brightness/contrast & that's how I do it. I love the contrast of jeans in b&w images!!!:)


Thanks again!!


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3/7/2006 8:01:05 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
 
 
 
So many great photos on here. Don't have much time tonight, but I wanted to comment on the photographer who's gallery Tonya mentioned. Her work is really great. Almost an eerie, freaky-ness to it that just pulled me right in. Did anyone else check out her bio? There was something about the angle of some of the photos that made me wonder if they were self-portraits. The bio photo sure looks like the same girl to me. If that's the case, she gets an even bigger wow from me. I've tried doing self portraits and have never liked anything I've ever gotten. By the way, the bio said she is 16!!! Very talented lady. And yes, Tonya, you are so right. The eyes are incredible.

One big difference that I can tell you will make the eyes really pop out is having the skin tone in Black and White and the eyes in color. I did a closeup of my neice once and learned that lesson. I didn't change her eye color at all, just made everything b/w except her eyes and wow, her eyes looked almost electric blue.

So I played a little tonight to try to help you and see what I could come up with for you. Now, I also went with discriptions that I saw under Maria's photos. These samples should give you a good idea. The first photo has all steps applied. The second and third show why I use black borders so often. Black around the outside will usually create great contrast and drawn the viewer's eye into the portrait.


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3/7/2006 8:27:05 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
 
 
  Eye-1-Original
Eye-1-Original
Everything was made b/w except eyes. Nothing else done to it.
© Liza M. Franco
Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
  Eyes-2-White
Eyes-2-White
This shows the steps taken.
© Liza M. Franco
Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
  Eyes-3-Black
Eyes-3-Black
Same steps, just showing how black creates contrast
© Liza M. Franco
Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
 
On the Unsharp Mask, move the slider to the right slowly. When you start to see pixels or hot spots, move back to the left until you like the look.


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3/7/2006 8:31:57 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  I put the wrong picture in for the first one. This is actually the finished one and not the original.

Debbie, I took so long typing my post that I hadn't seen that you had posted the same thing about her age.

Have a good night all.


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3/7/2006 8:42:32 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
 
 
 
Liza, I think allot of her photos are self portraits too...and that does just make ya go WOW again! she is something else. Can you imagine where she will be in a few years?

I got a tutorial on the eyes and this is what I played with tonite


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3/7/2006 9:19:22 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Alisha- Okay, I downloaded that dragan thing. Does it just automatically go into PS? I don't understand how to get it working. Where is it now?


That gallery is unbelieveable! I can't believe she is only 16. Smart kid!


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3/7/2006 10:24:37 PM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
  Just looked at that Gallery as well - wow, if she is really 16.... watch this space - she has pretty good PS skills I'd say!! When it comes to eyes, this link just arrived - these are free video tutorials - check it out, I haven't had a chance, need to work at my regular job, and make some money to pay for all this equipment I want to buy :))) Let us all know if you find this link, and all the other vid's helpful, I have.
http://www.photoeditingsecrets.com/ecourse/changeyecol1/changeyecol1.html


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3/7/2006 10:28:52 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Robyn- Thanks for posting that website. I just watched it and found it to be very helpful.


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3/8/2006 9:08:42 AM

 
Deb Brown
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/20/2003
  Hey all of you collage buffs out there.
I need help...one more time! I have done a lot of collages, but never printed them out at the lab, so I am extra nervous and want this to be just right for the client. I am doing a collage (16x20) with 9 (4x4) squares of body parts inside. My question--how big do you usually make the fonts?
I am writing the baby's name and birth date at the bottom. I can post the collage if that would help. Thanks in advance---what a great source of info. this thread has become!


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3/8/2006 9:41:59 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Dawn...did you ever figure out the dragon action to put in your ps? It is a zip file & so you'll have to unzip the file & then put in your actions folder, BUT let me know if you didn't figure it out then I can write the steps down.

Deb...if you go to my gallery on page 8 is a collage I did of the twins....They are actually 8x10 size & the bigger font is 70pt & the smaller font is 30pt...they printed just fine:)

HTH...Alisha!!!


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3/8/2006 9:55:25 AM

 
Deb Brown
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/20/2003
  I gotta say, this thread is better customer support than I have even paid for in the past LOL- so quick to respond!

Thanks Alisha! I looked at the twins collages and first, they are wonderful. Wish I had of seen them BEFORE I created mine. What size were your squares? Do you use the grids, and do you feel like the space is not an exact science- I mean like there is always a half square on the grid on the top/sides etc? What do you do about that. I was probably better before I found out about the grids because now I am neurotic about it! Okay, one last question- do you know what size each of the square grids are. I am trying to make sure that my fonts don't get cut off at the lab.
SO SORRY in advance for all of the questions, but I DO appreciate your help. And BTW, YES that was me in the maternity images.......that session really wore me out though, and I am not in a hurry to do anymore anytime too soon!

Thanks AGAIN!
deb


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3/8/2006 10:21:38 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  No problem Deb...I pretty much live on this computer..sad to say..so I do respond pretty quickly...USUALLY..hehe..LOL!!!

I have to say YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL & I LOVED those images:):)

On the squares on the collage they are 2x2. Yes I agree the grid isn't an exact science..LOL, BUT I use it to the BEST of it's ability & then with my eye make sure it looks even. It actually works pretty well. As long as you have your canvas sized at 11x14 or whatever size you're doing then the words "SHOULDN'T" get chopped off. This is what I do is make sure the wording isn't WAY CLOSE to the edges & I use mpix for prints & use their "VEIWING" tool just to make sure it isn't going to get chopped off. So far soo good my stuff comes back fine:) BUT I know your fear cause I still everytime fear that when I place an order!!!:) GOOD LUCK!!!!


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3/8/2006 10:35:58 AM

 
Deb Brown
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/20/2003
  Thanks, Alisha. I will post my collage for critique when complete.
Thanks for your compliments, too. Though I must say with two and one on the way, I am feeling quite my age right now....and a wee bit worn out!
Thanks again!


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3/8/2006 10:59:11 AM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
 
 
 
Hey Melissa, I finally tried your recipe :) Great - thank you very much, I just did the basic (I didn't do step 8) - walking before I can run....:) But here is the result. Thanks so much - your instructions were great!!


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3/8/2006 12:32:20 PM

 
Deb Brown
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  16x20 Body Parts Collage
16x20 Body Parts Collage
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I am posting the 16x20 collage I did for a client. The squares are 4x4 each. Can someone take a look and critique -any comments-good or bad are welcomed- before I submit the completed version to my lab. Oh BTW, the client requested the white background, and she's using a black frame, so I didn't see much need for a black border. Correct me if I am wrong. Thanks a bunch!

deb


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3/8/2006 1:00:30 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  I like it A LOT Deb!!! VERY classic looking. She'll love it!! It all looks fine to me:) I don't think anything will get cropped off either:) There isn't a need for the black border..especially if she's framing. I only do the black border for uploading on BP purposes cause it just makes the image/collage stand out more:) BUT that's just me. I don't have that black border on the actual print:)

AWESOME JOB!!!!!


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3/8/2006 1:24:37 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Hey guys! I have a question - I had a few pictures printed from my last newborn shoot only to look at them and realize that I cannot give them to my clients...the baby's skin is so red and marked from being held. Is there an easier way than using the healing brush to get rid of the marks? I can't believe I didn't notice this before I printed them!


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3/8/2006 1:44:37 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Alish- Nope, I think I'm hopeless!! LOL
I can't figure out how to put it in my actions. I did unzip it though. I still can't even figure out that collage stuff. Brain dead I think. LOL


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3/8/2006 2:40:43 PM

 
Deb Brown
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/20/2003
  Christine:
Don't ya just hate that?!
You could also try the cloning tool-
esp. if the marks are in an area that are relatively easy to cover up (no creases etc.) Let me know if you need further detail.

deb


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3/8/2006 2:45:38 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Alisha- Sorry, I didn't mean to shorten your name. lol

Christine- I would love to see the pics you are talking about. Then it might be easier for someone here to help you out.


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3/8/2006 2:45:43 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
 
 
  red splotches
red splotches
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  more red splotches
more red splotches
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Deb - I've tried cloning - it just takes for ever and there is so much....

good idea...here are two of the pictures. When I look at them on my screen, it doesn't look so bad, but the prints tell a different story!!

has anyone heard of the spider? Supposed to help with the colour on your screen vs the colour of your prints, or something like that.


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3/8/2006 3:07:01 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  christine both of these look extremely dark on my monitor. . . it's not calibrated, but my prints have turned out okay from MPix from it recently ...

the Spyder will helpyou calibrate to color but LCD monitors are hard to deal with. Who is doing your printing?


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3/8/2006 3:21:13 PM

 
Deb Brown
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/20/2003
  Christine:
Nice images.
I have had this problem before when my client was 2 weeks old. I tried to desat them slightly and that helped with the splotches. Also might want to try some black and white? Sorry, not heard of the spider. You're right, I can't really see the marks in the second image.


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3/8/2006 3:24:53 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Christine- Beautiful little baby!
I think maybe if you brightened them up a bit, it may help with the skin color. Just play with the levels in PS too. Also, in the first shot the baby looks a bit uncomfortable to me. (just my thoughts)
Or you could always just go black and white and not show the splotches all together. lol


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3/8/2006 3:26:56 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Thanks for the ideas....I think b&w is better as well, however these two prints are the a couple of the ones the parents ordered. I'll keep working on them! :-)


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3/8/2006 3:33:17 PM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Christine, if you have elements 4.0, you could try using the skin tone adjustment.. I am by far no expert and I am not really liking elements 4.0 but I have used the adjust for skin tone quite a bit for redness. just pick a part of the baby that is not red, like near the arm and then adjust the skin tone a little, I think that will take alot of the redness out..

If you like email me the full res jpeg and I will have a go for you;

djbeliever@hotmail.com

The bottom pick doesn't look so bad but the top one can be fixed a little I think.. email the pick and when my little one has gone to bed I will have a go for you if you like.. LOST is a repeat tonight so I won't be rushing to the tv at 9pm.. hope this helps, debbie


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3/8/2006 4:56:36 PM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Another thing Christine, is you could make then black and white and out in a little red filter and that smooths things out alot in black and white.. green is also good too..let me know if you want me to have a go at them.. deb


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3/8/2006 5:01:47 PM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  christine, I did send you a color version too, did you get it? deb


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3/8/2006 7:19:25 PM

 
Melissa Cozis   Robyn,

Looks Great! Glad the instructions were 'followable" - I tend to be overly fond of 'seeing' my self talk.

Christine-

Try adjusting the skin tone in Hue/Saturation. I realized once that older people tend to have a lot of red in their skin as well. By decreasing the red tones in Hue/saturation and increasing the yellow, it can be compensated for. If you do this by using you adjustment layer (yin-yang tool) you can then use a black brush to go over any parts that you don't want affected and return them to their original color, similar to the steps Robyn used to get her hand painted effect. It works very well, and allows you to maintain the full color image if you want to.


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3/9/2006 9:52:04 AM

 
Pat Wimpee   Erin, I just bought the 5D and photoshop doen't recognize the RAW file. Did you have to do something different? It recognizes my 20D RAW files.


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3/9/2006 10:00:14 AM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Hi Dawn,
Just checking to see if you ever found out that e-bay seller thats has the bad or no-good cds? If so Please let me know . This week I got Debby Tabbs cds THE ART AND FUN OF POSING CHILDREN, THE WEDDING PHOTOGRAPHER, PET PORTRAITS AND A PROFESSIONL'S GUIDE TO FAMILY POSING and thought I'd let you know that they are very good , they have lots of good info in them. They are very helpful, can't wait to get her new cd on STUIDO.
Thanks Sandra


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3/9/2006 3:14:48 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Sandra, I feel the same way, I can't wait to get the studio cd. I have the rest of the collection and it is great. Lots of great poses for those in need of learning how to pose the little ones on the first one you mentioned.


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3/9/2006 6:48:38 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
HI everyone!
I am usually a lurker here!! LOL!! I really need some help!! I have been blending & deleting forever!! on these pictures! I was hopeing maybe Suzy or someone that is really good in photoshop could help me out! I am trying to remove the angel wing straps in these pictures If some could help me out! I have been using the healing brush, but it tends to look to fake!
any information would be so helpful!!

Kristy


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3/9/2006 8:37:17 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Hi Kristy - have you tried using the cloning tool? that is what I would use...but I'm not much of an expert with PS. :-)


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3/9/2006 9:16:14 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis   HI Christine!
Yes I have tried both, then when I go to blend it, they look grayish!! I guess I am going to have to keep messing with it! LOL!! I was thinking about trying the burn & other brush, but havent ever really played with them!! Thanks for the inquiring Christine! I really appricate it!

Kristy


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3/9/2006 9:26:13 PM

 
Autumn Hernandez   I love the last pic of the sleeping angel. (I too am a lurker here lol) Did you get those wings on eBay? I bought some like that one there and I think they are SO cute! I could have made them myself though. Go figure, after I bought two pair!

BTW, I am loving this thread. Thanks, guys. :)


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3/9/2006 11:14:45 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis   Hi Autumn,
Yes I got them on ebay, I have bought 5 sets from her so far! They are really nice for the price! I just ordered the big set of 2 & I can't wait to get them!!

Thanks again & if anyone has any helpful info dont hesitate to email me!!

Thanks again!
Kristy


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3/10/2006 7:05:22 AM

 
Robyn Gwilt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/15/2005
  Kristy, they're adorable - I would also try the cloning brush - select a soft one, but set the opacity to 100% - try that (or the healing tool?)


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3/10/2006 8:18:17 AM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Kristy- Where did you get that boat in your pics? I've been trying to find one (at a resonable price) and can't find one anywhere. Love the angel pics. Very cute!! Especially the last one.


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3/10/2006 9:49:38 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Kristy, my favorite is the middle one. If you would like to send me a full size version of whichever is your favorite, I will be happy to work with it over the weekend and try to let you know what I find works best on it. If you can send me the file as is from your camera that would be best. I can work with the one on here, but then it will be low res. I'd rather send one back to you that you can actually use for a finished product. I'll try to save a couple of screen shots too showing the steps.

I'm so excited. Melissa mentioned a great book a while back, Adobe Photoshop CS: The Art of Photographing Women. I ordered my copy today and can't wait for it to get here. Just so anyone else who is interested in it knows, I found out today that there will be a revised addition coming out in August. I'm impatient and didn't want to wait that long.


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3/10/2006 6:02:18 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis   Oh Liza that would be SO GREAT!! I got one done & thought it looked OK!! But there are 2 that are really good that are killing me! I worked on them things all day & still didnt get them the way I wanted! I dont know what I am doing wrong!! LOL!! If you will email me I will send them to you, I dont know your email> LOL!!

Thanks again you are an angel yourself for offering!! LOL!!

Dawn,
I got the boat on ebay, the back drop on ebay I got about $160.00 dollars in that whole set up. One side of the boat is green & the other is white!! It is the cutest thing!!
Just search ebay like I did maybe you will find another used one!!

I will post somemore picture soon!

KRisty


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3/10/2006 7:34:27 PM

 
Melissa Cozis   Kristy,

If you're using the healing brush and it still looks grey, it's becuase you're close to a border - like between the arm and the wing, where two diff colors meet and then blend. Try using your magic wand to select the skin tone on the arm only, then choose a color in the arm and use that to do the healing brush over the straps. You may need to do it a couple of times and use the edit---> fade healing bruch command in between.


Dogs screwed up phone lines, so will be offline til they are fixed, but will check in from work. Have fun ya'll.


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3/11/2006 5:07:10 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Where is everyone hiding?? Come out, come out wherever you are!


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3/13/2006 10:11:23 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  no kiddin dawn!
we need a bump....and how about a new thread....suzy? Alisha?


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3/13/2006 9:16:22 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Hello guys, I have some tricks for sharpening images.

Will be posting them in a second.

Suzy


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3/13/2006 9:20:09 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Greater sharpening control
For a more intense type of sharpening, use Filter>Other>High Pass on a duplicate of the layer that you want to sharpen. Change the layer's Blend Mode to Overlay, Soft Light, or Hard light. Smaller High Pass settings emphasize tiny details in the image where you need to keep the tiny details (such as wrinkles) unsharpened. You can reduce the opacity of the sharpening layer and mask areas to keep them from sharpening. It gives you total flexibility

Sharpening an image
When you reduce an image’s size or import it from a digital camera, it usually needs some sharpening—the amount depends on the output method for the image. Several books recommend changing the image into Lab mode and only sharpening the Luminosity channel, but here’s an easier way to do the same thing: Choose Filter>Sharpen>Unsharp Mask, apply the settings that you want, then choose Edit>Fade Unsharp Mask, and alter the Blend Mode to Luminosity. As an added benefit, you can also reduce the amount of the sharpening at the same time if you feel that you’ve applied too much.


Advanced Sharpening Technique
Using Unsharp Mask to sharpen a digital camera image always poses a problem in that the user may overdo the procedure. The result is a halo edge for high contrast subjects. Although I’ve been using the High Pass filter to sharpen images for more than a year, there's an even sharper variation. Here’s how it works:
1) Duplicate the Background layer by typing Command-J (PC: Control-J).
2) Set the Blending Mode of the copy layer to Overlay.
3) With the copy layer selected, run the Other>High Pass filter. Starting with a low value, move the slider until edges in the image show. This is strictly a judgment call but a value of 5 seems to be a good starting point. Click OK.
4) Flatten image and Save.

Enjoy


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3/13/2006 9:22:19 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Hello Kristy, I really like your agel image (gorgeous). I can help you take the straps off with cloning.

But first please try the following with the image:

Image>Adjustment>Shadow and Highlights
14 shadows, 9 tonal width, Radius 30

Highlights about 2 /50 / 30

See if the colors change a little.

Suzy


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3/13/2006 9:38:03 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  I agree, we need a new thread. This one is getting too long.


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3/13/2006 10:47:46 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Ask and you shall receive!!!

A new thread # 3

http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=22916

Suzy


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3/14/2006 7:27:43 AM

 
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