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Debby A. Tabb
 

STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY #16


STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY PART #16


WELCOMES ALL MEMBERS WHO LOVE STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY AND PORTRAITURE .
WE ENJOY WORKING TOGETHER AND HAVING FUN!!
WE WORK THROUGH STUDIO SET UP , INTO THE OPERATIONS OF DOING THE BUSINESS OF STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY
This is now part #12 of the on going Thread on Studio Photography,OVER 6 months long.Don't be affraid to jump in and ask away, if we've answered it we can tell you where to find the answer, or get a answer for you.
From start to finish we discuss Buying equipment,Setting up your Studio(home or moblie) and the Business of..

Grab a cup of coffee(or...) and catch up and join us, here are the other links:
PART1:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.php?threadID=17534
PART 2:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.php?threadID=18585
PART3:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.php?threadID=19127
PART 4:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.php?threadID=19665
PART 5: http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.php?threadID=20008

PART #6:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.php?threadID=20255

PART #7:http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.php?threadID=20455

PART # 8:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.php?threadID=20773

PART #9
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.php?threadID=21098

PART #10:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.php?threadID=21439

PART#11:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.php?threadID=21744

PART#12:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.php?threadID=21855

Part #13:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.php?threadID=21981

Part #14:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.php?threadID=22019

Part #15:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.php?threadID=22094


IT IS GREAT WE HAVE SO MANY NEW PEOPLE JOINING IN AND ADDING SO MUCH FUN!!!!
We have started a STUDIO GROUP MAP
For those intrested in sharing where they are and if they would like to be involved in extra get together type meetings and WORKSHOPS OF POSING AND PHOTOSHOP:
http://www.frappr.com/studiogroup


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  ok, you were just hurrying me!!
where are ya,la,la,la,la...

Hey , WHERe ARE YA!

lol,lol,lol


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
 

I am alone :-(

:-0 :-0 I think this is scary...


lol,lol


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February 01, 2006

 

Tonya Cozart
  I'm here Debby! Good morning....not having any coffe here, I am a dr pepper girl!
wonder how many messages we can post today...LOL


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February 01, 2006

 

Kristy L. Hargis
  I am here to!! I a DR PEPPER girl to LOL!! I may have a little girl coming today to get pictures done!! My alein bees will be here today!! Did you guys know they are located around nasville & I am about 2 hours from there!! I am so excited!! I got my studio set up & done just a few more minor things, but it is usable!! LOL!! I am doing the collage of the newborn baby picture I did the other day. She is almost 4 months old! You guys got any nice sayings to put on one! Any ideas are welcome!! I have been checking in & keeping up & I think the photo CD's with music are an awesome idea! I am going to have to look into doing something like that!!
Look for some pictures later from me!!
Kristy


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  Good Moning Tonya!!

I bet Laura is getting into another cup of coffee right now!
I geuss we have to yell real loud to get her here, and Danelle too!
they were up wanting company this morning.

LAURA!!!! DANELLE!!!!
HERE WE ARE!!!!LOL

you know I just love buggin' Laura,lol


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February 01, 2006

 

Danielle E. Rutter
  This is more like it! :) Checking in. Now I'm off to work all day.


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February 01, 2006

 

Sandra
  Good Morning...Not having coffee or dr pepper, I have to have my diet coke and chocolate!!!

Debby, Laura or Liza what did ya'll come up with the workshop Houston or Dallas and when I want to attend a workshop but I need to know when I have 2 wedding's and my son graduation in May. Debby even if I attend one I still will host one in louisiana during COTTON TIME for you...


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  Danielle, have a great day!

And Sandra, you are WONDERFUL!!!

and so sweet,lol!
if any of you have not seen Sandra's gallery you should really take a look she has some really wonderful shoots!!
but she knows my favorites are those cotten fields!!
really take a look!


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February 01, 2006

 

Melissa Farnsworth
  Hey there everybody! I have a project that I am working with my sis in law. She is about 12 weeks preggo and is already showing. She is a tiny thing! I want to make some kind of time line with her using some kind of object with her possiably every month when I take her picture. Any ideas and poses?


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February 01, 2006

 

Tonya Cozart
  Hey Sandra, are you guys cotton farmers, or just surrounded by it? LOL...I know there is lots and lots of it in LA, ya'll get some good cotton there! My husband is a cotton farmer, along with generations of his family...I live right in the big middle of it. One of my slide shows...daddy and me...is my son and hubby on the tractor and in the fields...I have a couple of my son in the cotton posted in my gallery too. Your pics in the cotton are very very cute! I need to do that more!


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  Mellissa,
the things that come to mind right now are:
a measuring tape or ribbon with markings on it.
(this she could always keep)
standing in front of a tree trunk out side.

a beach ball might be fun, to see how close to it's size she gets.

I will think of it though.


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  hey, also I would like to know:

who got what lights?
Tonya did you order yours and if so what kind did you go with?


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February 01, 2006

 

Debbie Vega
  Hey all, I'm here, lurking abit lately as sophie has been sick.. Ok, so who was it that was designing web sites, I have looked into templates and frankly I do not have the patience to put all pics in myself blah blah, and I need a site that contains music.. show yourself, I totally forgot who this was, if your'e out there do you have any examples of site you have created.. thanks much.. debbie


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  Debbie,
It is Daniella and she is doing my site- but I have been holding her up.

she has already sent me samples but I have been sick and busy with some studio and CD stuff: a combanation that doesn't work well for me.lol.

She had to go to work-but she'll be back at the thread later this evening.
about 4:00 or 5:00 on our Ca time.


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February 01, 2006

 

Laura E. OConnor
  OH I'M HERE, I'M HERE! STOP YELLIN' ALREADY!!!!!

Actually, I haven't had any coffee, yet. Cleaning up the house, feeding the kids, sending info to prospective clients, getting my new materntiy and newborn packages together to post on my site, researching the DVD/CD thing, digital photo books and photo handbags!!! No coffee yet! AGH!

Kristy! GREAT NEWS ABOUT THE LIGHTS & SESSION!!! Good luck, can't wait to see some pics posted!

Sandra, not sure if it's Houston or Dallas, yet. Not enough people have signed up on the frappr map! IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN A WORKSHOP IN HOUSTON OR DALLAS... Please sign up in the general discussion on the frappr map under the Houston/Dallas post! THANKS! We can't plan it til we have enough people!!! HECK! If we can't get enough people here, I'll come out to LA (that's Louisiana, Debby, not Los Angeles... sorry!!)

Debbie V, Danielle is your girl.


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  Is that it! and you hadn't taken the time to check in before now!! uuugh!
lol,lol
and what the heck!
I was plannin'om this LA thing! ,lol

dang it I am always alone out here!
this sucks,lol,lol.


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February 01, 2006

 

Sandra
  Hey Tonya,
I'm just surrounded by cotton fields and crawfish ponds. I worked many years at the cotton gin. I quit when Ashley was born. One of my best friends is a farmer, a very good farmer, one of the best here. I don't know what other cotton farmers in other states get but he get about 3 bales per acre. Sooo it looks like snow so white far miles and miles. ITS BEAUTIFUF...


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February 01, 2006

 

Denyse Clark
  Sandra, chocolate for breakfast, you're my kind of girl, lol.

Your gallery was very nice, Debby was definately right! :)


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February 01, 2006

 

Tonya Cozart
  Laura....come on now, I could do all those things and have coffe too!! LOL!! You are a good multitasker...that is a great skill to have! I can do that most of the time, but sometimes I get stuck...LOL

Debby T...I went with this kit from Steve...1..HS-2000...440 w/s...3 1/2 lbs...On /Off Switch...100 watt modeling lamp...Test button...Full, Half & 1/4 power...Recycling time 2-5 seconds.. Built in slave...Ready light....Universal light stand mount...Flash cover...10' power cord...plug in flash tube(10,000 flash life)...1 year factory warranty.

2.. PS-300s... 150W/S...Weight: 2 1/2lbs...On / Off Switch...50 Watt Halogen Modeling Lamp...Flash Test Button...Full & Half Power Switch...Recycling Time 1-3 Seconds ...Built-in-Slave... Ready light ...plug in quartz flash tube (10,000 flash life) Universal Light Stand Mount...Flash Cover...2 10' Power Cord...1 year factory warranty

1..Snoot

1..Honey comb

1..Umbrella light holder for SD-400


1..SD-400 mini slave80w/s of power
2..Umbrella light reflectors for PS-200

2..10' sync cords

1..307 light stand extends to 7.5 feet for HS-2000

2..306 light stands extends to 6.5 feet

1..303 backlight stand extends to 3.3 feet

1...32"x32" pro soft box

2..32" white umbrellas

1..Pro carrry bag with wheels and handle

He replaced the SM200 with the SD 400, hopefully it will be better.
Hubby and I talked it over, and he wanted me to stick in that price range if I could ($599), because our cotton has not been gined yet and money is tight, he said if I need to upgrade later then we can get the better stuff then...so how could I complain? I am just excited to have some coming and relieved to have the search over...at least for now, it can be exhausting...lol

Sandra, that is a good crop your friend makes...is that with our without irrigation? I figure the farmers around there make that without irrigating cause it is wet enough. My hubby and brother made 3 and 4 bales this year on their irrigated, but it is odd to make over 2 on dryland...it is really dry out here...especially now, if it does not rain there won't be many opportunities for pics this season...:(
anyway...blah blah blahing is over
talk to you all again later...little one needs a nap


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February 01, 2006

 

Brenda M. Wolfensberger
  HI all just checking in! Just got back from my MOPS (mothers of preschoolers) meeting and I'm trying to catch up while Aaron eats lunch. thank goodnes for laptops!


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February 01, 2006

 

Debbie Vega
  thanks debby and laura, I wil chat with danielle later today.. debbie


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February 01, 2006

 

Pat Wimpee
  Hey Laura, I send you an email but I thought I'd let you know or you might not open it:) Thanks


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February 01, 2006

 

Danielle E. Rutter
  Hey! I'm actually home for lunch. I came home cause I thought the UPS guy would have delivered my new and much anticipated lens but he hasn't yet! :( Which means I probably won't get it until tomorrow. Bother.

Anyway... yeah I'm the web designer. I don't have a vast number of examples to show you. I have done one photography site in the past but it's no longer up for display (much to my dismay... oh that rhymes). But as far as other sites go... I have www.rutterfamily.com and www.daniellerutter.com and my portfolio www.madebyme4u.com. Soon I'll have Debby's site and hopefully Laura's too, if all goes well. Talk to you soon!


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February 01, 2006

 

Chris Van Antwerp
  Boy you can't leave this thread for a second without getting left behind. Had a bunch of thins to to this AM. Volunteer at my kindergaatners schools and get info for senior pkgs to some of the local schools. Hung flyers all over two towns. Took some framed work to a local flower shop that agreed to hang it with some of my brochuers.

So with all that and a newspaper AD I should have customers beating a path to my door LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!

So now I am home and can sort through last nights practice session and post some of the results here.

As far a web design, I have worked out a trade with a gentleman to provide a family portrait session in exchange for web design. I love trade.

Talk to you ladies in a bit. Need to get Shane to bed.

Chris


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February 01, 2006

 

Nicole E. Rappaport
  hello! I am checking in again and I have a question...

after reading Chris' post I realized that I have no idea where to start advertising wise. I am just starting out so I do not want to spend a whole lot of $$. I did get some business cards though. does anyone have any good suggestions on how to get your name out there? I apologize if this has already been asked.

thanks!
Nicole


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February 01, 2006

 

Christine Herr
  Hi there! Does anyone provide their clients with printed proofs in an album? If so, can I ask where you get you albums?

Thanks!


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February 01, 2006

 

Liza M. Franco
  Poppin' in to get on the new thread. Trying to get all my studio stuff back home from the hubby's shop and getting studion space ready here at the house. Gonna paint some walls today and can't wait to get that out of the way so that I can start setting up permanent sceneries to use. I'm like a little kid, all excited.


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February 01, 2006

 

Amber Bigelow
  Just checkin' in. Man you guys move so fast!!! No more pictures to post yet. BUT we might be moving soon to the next city over and will hopefully get a bigger house...which means more room for my studio stuff! Yipee!!! Keep your fingers crossed for me. (it's been nonstop drama for a week now over this) But it also means I have to focus on getting my house ready to sell, so less time to play. :( It's like dangling a carrot in front of a rabbit. I FINALLY get my lights and then can barely play with them!


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February 01, 2006

 

Erinn Aloi
  Nicole,
I jumped into business almost 2 years ago with a studio. it's on a fairly well traveled road. i'm on the corner where there is a traffic light. So I put some pictures in the window and keep changing them every few weeks. Now people like to see what's new while the light is red! I didn't have a sign for almost the first year! I put up an awning with my business name on it and then people started calling. before that it was just people in the neighborhood walking by. They would come in, and show their friends their pictures, and then the friends would come in. I think that is how I get MOST of my business. SInce I won the BP website, I've had many inquiry's about weddings. but haven't actually booked one from the website yet, i'm still giving them pricing. Word of mouth has done me the best so far! THe only "advertising" I have done so far is business cards, and my awning! I'm as busy as I want to be right now!
Erinn


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February 01, 2006

 

Pat Wimpee
  Laura, Thanks for looking at my gallery. What do you think a realistic price for that would be? Do you think people would spend 40-50 dollars on something like that?

Liza- Are you the one who does cd templets? I'm looking for some borders and frames. Thanks


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February 01, 2006

 

Chris Van Antwerp
 
 
 
OK ladies here goes. Let me first start by saying that last night was very frustrating. I thought I had my ducks in a row and now realize that I have a lot of work to do.

Give me your 100% honest opinion.

I took 100 shots last night and every time I kept thinking why in the world am I doing this. I know I can learn studio photography. I have done pretty well at outdoor sittings but indoor has me stumped.

The picture of me makes me look blue, how do I stop that?

I obviously need help w/posing.

Do I need different color backdrops or gels? I got the package that Steve Kaeser sells on E-bay with the supports and one white/one black 9X20 muslins. Need to make more $$$ to get more, but if the shots look like these I may have to.......

Anyway enough of the ramblings of me. Please look at these and give me feedback.

Thanks, Chris


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  hey Chris,
where are these posted at?

lets see what we have and then we can go from there.

Please also tell me witch package you got from steve.

and the setting on the camera and light placement.

Please all, remember I am doing this though the internet- I am pretty good at having a idea of what maybe happening but basic info is really a must to get you going faster.
thank you,
Debby


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  Chris,
Tat was wierd, they didn't show on my computer until now.
Ok, this is so much easier to do by phone-thats How Laura and I do it and it is easier to say try this...
and be able to discribe in detail.

and then sometimes she usd to try with me on the phone.
POOR TIM!lol,lol
Ok please give me a moment to make notes.
and study what may be happening.
**On you, you didn,t change anything.
there was no window where a cars lights came through(they tend to throw a blue cast) and no painted walls to interfer?


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February 01, 2006

 

Chris Van Antwerp
  Debby, sorry it took so long to finish the post I got side-tracked by a three year old.
The package I got from Steve was The 10'x20' Black and White Muslins and Pro support system for 219.

Settings for all of the shots were ISO 200 1/200 f/22. Main and fill were at 7 and 5 respectively and back was moved around a bit.

The main was moved on the picture of Nikki because we were trying something different.

Chris


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February 01, 2006

 

Chris Van Antwerp
  Debbiy, no other sources of light were around. The only thing I can think of is that my wife may have changed a setting that I didn't realize at the time. She is learning the camera and those buttons can be a challenge. I know they were for me when I first started.

Would love to be able to talk on the phone with you about this.

Chris


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February 01, 2006

 

Denyse Clark
  Christine,
I do my proofs for clients in prints/albums!!

I don't know if they are the best deal in town, but I LOVE www.hubphoto.com

They have awesome quality and they ship fast. They have instituted a min order recently, I think it's $35 ish, so you have to get a few things at once.

If I'm doing a portrait session, I use their Deluxe Preview Album- it's like the pro's use (olan mills, etc) and holds 20 photos (available in all the sizes and various colors).

They also have the gorgeous CD cases that match the Preview Album.

Love it!


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  Chris,
If you have a nation free phone lan- email me I will give you a number if you want to call-that wil be much easier.

now with all due respect to every one.
I am only here to try to help you in Studio Photography.
I appreciate it much more if you all would slow down- all this will come so much easier and faster if you will concentrate on one thing at a time.
your lights hit th efront pourch and ya'll take off runnin"!!lol,lol.
Though the enthusiaium is nice- your eyes can't get used to what they need to know . you should be able to place the the light and see how it will lay, and see the shadow and hot spots.
and as far as dramatic lighting ,I didn't tell Laura how to do that until she had been using her lights a bit.
It is all so fun, but I am afraid you might be getting cheated- if you don't master one thing then move on to the next.
I have always said take the time to move your lights.practise and get to know them.
so really we should start by setting them up and taking practise shots with the full lightig first then moving on to seeing how light moves and sets of the human form.
do you all understand that? I geuss what I want you to know is I think you keep more clients if you perfect your skill first. you can see that in Lauras work through the first few threads.


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  just a note The products Olan Mills uses are made by TAP.
so there are a feww different distrbuters of TAB products so you can price check.

they use the 5x7 8 incert portfolios and the 20 insert Leather bound witch are beautiful.

just to help ya get the best price.


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February 01, 2006

 

Liz Hincka
  Hello all, I am behind on lots of compliments, so I will say in general that I have enjoyed lurking at all the posts and progress everyone is making. Thanks for those of you who responded to my question a couple threads ago about backdrops.

Christine, some people I do photos of really like to see the pics over getting a CD. For those people, I put the pics in an accordian like black waffle board folder that holds 8 pics. I buy them from Albums Incorporated. I think the last time I ordered, they were about a buck a piece. I buy ribbon on sale after Holidays and have local school colors for Seniors and tie a nice bow around the board all folded up. I think way back in the early threads we talked about the presentation and it really works. Anyway, long story short, Albums Inc.


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February 01, 2006

 

Chris Van Antwerp
  Debby, thank you for that. I think you are right. I do need to get a grasp of the basic three light setup before I start trying the other stuff. I am going to concentrate on getting it right the basic way first. I don't want any of my customers suffering because I want to try something different.

I am willing to listen to any constructive critisism or advice that you would be willing to give.

Chris


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February 01, 2006

 

Sandi DeBondt
 
 
 
Hi all. I asked a question a while back and did not get an answer. I hope someone out there can help me (Debby T?).

When I had my first session this last Saturday, I had a baby and a two-year-old. I took a total of 63 portraits, but only half were usable because of motion blur. I had three lights, main, fill and back. Do I need to change my ISO (it was on 200)? I did try to increase it to 400 later, but that did not seem to help. I am getting enough light from the lights, I just don't understand. If you would like, you can see some of the photos in my gallery (I don't know how to get them in this thread, although I will try again now). Thank you.


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February 01, 2006

 

Sandi DeBondt
 
 
 
Hi all. I asked a question a while back and did not get an answer. I hope someone out there can help me (Debby T?).

When I had my first session this last Saturday, I had a baby and a two-year-old. I took a total of 63 portraits, but only half were usable because of motion blur. I had three lights, main, fill and back. Do I need to change my ISO (it was on 200)? I did try to increase it to 400 later, but that did not seem to help. I am getting enough light from the lights, I just don't understand. If you would like, you can see some of the photos in my gallery (I don't know how to get them in this thread, although I will try again now). Thank you.


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  Chris,
I sent you the number by email.
so if you would like to call feel free.

I will try to post back on these shots,but I am in the middle of a few things that makes the phone easier.

and it's really hard when there are multible shots because you can't see them as you post- so I have to make notes an d then post back.
BUt I love when you guys post these that may have issues, because then every one gets to learn how to solve a problem when it occers.
When I was doing my own little studio stuff in my Grooming shop- I had to learn by myself-I did know about better photo.
But when I started working for Corprate stores well you learn alot of maintance because you have a
" help desk"
and you call and say I can't get the color in the back drop oh my gosh!
and a calm voice on the other end says"turn on the back light" and you feel so stupid.
BUt you learn alot,don't ya Daneille.
so some of this stuff we can see it and say -hey did ya lower your lights or hey raise your lights.
I had to evaluate portraits as part of evaluating a photographer- so you get used to seeing this stuff.
BUT I HATE~TO TYPE!
so Laura would spend a lot of time on the phone,lol,lol


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  sandi,
I don't know why but these aren't coming up big enough when pened to see any blur.
I always post mine sized at 4x6 and 300dpi.
maybe try that - so maybe I can see.you can email me for th enumber also if you like.
Laura, can you see the blur?


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February 01, 2006

 

Justin G.
  All, I copied and pasted this from my other thread so that people who go through the "series" can maybe get some help from my experience. here goes nothing.

...Hey guys, I finally got my first job. it'll be expenses only buy hey its a job! anyways I'm going to be shooting an actress for, as you see above!, theatrical headshots. at first I said "hey, not too bad, some headshots". as I read some "actress tips pages", i'm learning how vitally important it is for an actress to have ABSOLUTELY PERFECT, NOTHING LESS of a headshot. it's the first impression of an actress to a director, it has the ability to make or break the actress, and needs to be technically perfect as well as pose perfect. I read that it must show the TRUEST character of the actress.

well as you can see i'm getting nervous. I thought hey, I could play around and work on getting the lights perfect..i'm not too good at posing yet but we'll get by. AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH I can really screw over this model, I hope you guys realize the pressure on me. anyways when I call her i'm going to advise her we'll shoot as much as possible to get it PERFECT... NOTHING LESS THAN PERFECT.

#1. Am I overreacting?
#2. I've never worked with a model other than my wife.
#3. How can I bring out expression of true character in the actress?
#4. Any lighting style tips?

... I'm thinking of doing some clamshell, very flattering. I'm also thinking of this:

2/3 Pose with main (47" octabox) @ the 9:00. silver reflector around camera right to fill shadows for her face. medium softbox at the rear for hair highlights. should I meter this w/ main or 1/2 - 1 stop less? i'm thinking about 1/2 stop down from main.

I'm also thinking of using a light blue backdrop..shooting B&W film will give a nice gray tone (she's a black lady). i'm thinking (no offense to black people) that i'll lose her hair with a black background and white would be overpowering. should I do a flat backdrop or make it wavy for some texture (i don't want to steal from her).

I know this is a thousand questions but any tips on any and all would help so much. I'm nervous, but she told me this is new for her to, so that i'm a little relieved. thx again.

the ever-worried about her career,
justin


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February 01, 2006

 

Sandi DeBondt
  Sorry, Debby these are not the blurred photos. I deleted them because they upset me that they were not good enough. But there was definite motion blur. In one, the baby's hand was moving and it was totally blurred. I just thought that if I had enough light it would not blur, like when I take pictures in natural light, which is where I have always taken pictures before. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks so much!


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  Justin,
I alway enjoy seeing you here. But, I am on areal time scheadule over some things
But, I had to chime in here.
#1 you WILL have a blast, you ALWAYS seem to enjoy a challenge.I have no doubts YOu will give this your all!
#2 Justin! DO IT ALL!!!!why not my friend- she is saying she istrusting you will do your best-again I belive she knows you
Please , take your time. move your lights and watch the most beautiful skin tones are lying in the Black skin.
when you see the pinks or golds showing you are really on target.
# 3 Justin, Try the black background , move your lights closer- bring the lights closer to a dark skin person and further from a light.
again you'll see the color come out as you are on target.and bring the hair light in as well. you have this chance to play-so PLAY!!
I torchered my boss years ago- because some woman said I could photograph black people- "Olan Mills doen't teach thier people how to shoot black folks" SEE, I still remember.
So I made her promise to try me.
she made a family appointment for the weekend.
and I called my Boss(a striking Black woman!!!told her not to help me just pose-she was always so good to me! thank you Auny Robinson!!)
and I got my experiance-and my sitting -and a Huge order from that woman and we had a GOOD time.
so take your Op for experiance.
gotta go.


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  Sandi,
lol,lol for goodness sakes-I was just telling Laura that my eyes are bothering me again. and so I was going nuts!!!lol,lol,lol

but thank goodness you told me.lol,lol
silly do you have any of those left if so post one and I will take a look.
thank you.


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February 01, 2006

 

Denyse Clark
  Hubphoto uses TAP products like Debby mentioned. They are soooo nice. Every type of album I've bought from them I've loved!


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February 01, 2006

 

Justin G.
  Thank you Deb for the motivation! :-) anyways I won't be seeing golds, for some reason my film lacks color, hmm something wrong? (just pullin your leg!).
p.s. my vacation won't be long, only like 120 days. I get everyone mixed up but don't your kids take year long vacations?


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February 01, 2006

 

Sandi DeBondt
  Debby, LOL. I didn't mean to make you think you're eyes were going bad! I'm at a different computer now, but I will try again to post a blurred picture. I think I have one. Sorry for the confusion. LOL!!!


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February 01, 2006

 

Kristy L. Hargis
 
 
 
HI all!!
Dont know if you guys remember that I said I had a shot this afternoon & I was getting my lights. Well she walked in my studio when I was putting them together LOL!! I told her to just give me one min LOL!! But they turned out wonderful! Let me know what think!!
Kristy


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February 01, 2006

 

Sandra
  Hi Kristy,
Wow!!! Great Job... Love THE ROSE.


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February 01, 2006

 

Kristy L. Hargis
 
 
 
Thanks Sandra! My new lights are truely awesome!
Well on another note! A few days ago my old lights that I wasnt to happy about I salvaged the pictures I did with them & also made the Angel baby collage! Let me know what you guys think on these good or bad!! LOL!!


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February 01, 2006

 

Erinn Aloi
  Kristy,
I think they are pretty good!! I don't care for the filter you used though! but that's just my opinion.
Erinn


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
 
 
 
i AM SORRY , I AM RUNNING.
JUSTIN, YOU GOOFBALL,LOL,LOL I MEAN WHEN YOU SEE THE GOLD OR PINK IN HER SKIN(BLACK SKINED PEOPLE HAVE A DISTINT GOLD OR PINK TONE)
I KNOW YOUR USING B/W FILM,LOL,LOL
I JUST LOVE YA! WHEN ARE YOU GOING?
NOT SOON I HOPE.CAREFUL.OK.

KRISTY, HONEY GREAT JOB FOR THROWN UP THE LIGHTS,LOL!!! I LOVE THIS STORY.
NOW I HAVE TA TELL YA-SWITCH THEM : THE MAIN AT 3-4 AND THE FILL AT 6-7.
AND YOUR GOOD.

OK I HAD TO HURRY THROUGH SOME SHOTS TO GET THAT BACKDROP UP TONIGHT AND I WANTED TO SHARE MY GOOFBALLS.


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February 01, 2006

 

Kristy L. Hargis
  Thanks Erinn!
I thought the fitler was ok, but my favorite of her is looking away. The one at the top!!
Kristy


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February 01, 2006

 

Justin G.
  Anytime from February to May. Oh wait that's now! lol. some notice huh? i'm currently packing my stuff up now and putting everything in storage. anybody want to hold my stuff for me while i'm gone? j/k sorry, lol! i'll keep in touch, we'll have computers! hopefully BP and the Sig won't be blocked, my life will be over! :-( not to mention that ashley will be closer to the fight than I will, oh well they have an indoor pool and a spa at her base! wow the air force is so rough on us in the dirt! haha had to rub that in! p.s. i'm taking my AE-1's so you guys can see some pics of the locals!


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February 01, 2006

 

Erinn Aloi
  Kristy,
on the soft focus one of Olivia, could you use the brush to bring back her eyes to clear? they look really fuzzy.
I like the shots in the collage, but something bothers me about the white spots? know what I mean? and are they all slightly opaque? I can't tell.
I like the shot of her with the flower though!! just not the filter thingie.
what lights did you get? I must of missed that.
Erinn


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February 01, 2006

 

Denyse Clark
  Kristy- I love the first two!!! So great, you'd never guess you were just throwing up the lights. So many people have taken days, weeks to get usable pics w/ their lights. But sounds like you've had some before, that must be the difference!!! Very nice.


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  Justin,
Ya,know- right.

other then that try to find some fun.
and have yourselves a wonderful adventure.
hey at least they are letting Ashly go as well.
you'll have your model for your off time.
please check in and THANK YOU!!


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February 01, 2006

 

Kristy L. Hargis
  Erinn,
I will try that on the soft focus on. I think I had my camera setting a little of to. I am just learning the manual modes. I told her I would do a few in manual mode. The white spots on the collage are of the background I set in. It is a white satin background. I can try to tone them down in photoshop! They didnt stick out that far till they were mentioned! LOL!!
Debby I will do that. I was also wondering, do I need to put my soft box on the fill light or the main. I put it on the most power ful one the Alien bees 800. Then put the umbrella on the 400. Or do I need to switch that around to? Thanks for the information debby!!
Denyse, Thanks for the compliment! the first 2 are my favorites!
Yes I do have some photo flood lights & a few low wattage strobes. Then I got these other strobes I got from ebay that I just dont like!!

But I just adore my new lights!!
Thanks again
Kristy


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  Kristy,
that is perfect: softbox on the main and the umbrella on the fill.
have fun, did you get a backlight yet?


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February 01, 2006

 

Kristy L. Hargis
  well I was just using a refelctor across from the main light. What kind of back light do I need. Can I use one of my basic photo lights or my low wattage strobe?


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  sure you can-use two if you want.

I love having two backlights, you can gel them different coloers for a great effect.
also you can use one of those as a hair light.
just a thought


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February 01, 2006

 

Liza M. Franco
  Hi Debby, thought I'd give caulking and painting up for a little bit and check in.

Pat, I am the one with the template cds. You can view and/or purchase them at lizafranco.com Let me know if you have any questions.


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February 01, 2006

 

Sandra
  This has nothing to do with photograph, but I would like to ask ya'll to have The Brixey family in your prayers. Lance Cpt. Billy Brixey was killed in Afghanistan. He was only 21. He was the son of a high friend.
Thanks Sandra

P.S. Please remember all of our men and women (serving our coutry) in your prayers.


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February 01, 2006

 

Tonya Cozart
 
 
 
Kristi, great pics! Beautiful little girl as well...nice to have such a photogenic model! I think you did great with your new lights...congratulations! I love the one where she is looking away too, her eyes are so bright!

I can't remember who it was that gave some instructions for making the name collage in photoshop, but THANKS again. I just got time to play with it today, and it was SOOOO easy!
here are a couple I did...


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February 01, 2006

 

Dawn T. Palmerley
 
 
 
Okay, I made chocolate cake today, took my son to kindergarten, picked him up, took him to piano class, went downtown, back and forth back and forth and was wondering why I had no email. I didn't even know you guys went to a new thread until tonight. And it's almost full! LOL

Anyway, I was testing my lights again.
Tried 2 different backdrops. Sometimes my strobe goes off and sometimes it doesn't. Debby- I did what you said and set my camera to ISO 200 1/200 f/22
but the strobe didn't go off.
Then at the times it went off, it looks yellow on the left side. (Could be from the lab though, that has happened in the past)
This was all with the black backdrop.
When I used the blue backdrop, everything looks so washed out.
I'm going crazy cause I have clients booked about 2 weeks from now.
Help!!


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February 01, 2006

 

Danielle E. Rutter
  Dawn - despite lighting issues... those pics are really cute. Especially the first ones. Looks like you got some natural little models on your hands. :)


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  Ok Dawn,
set camera as suggested, main at between 3-4 oclock, camera at 6:00 and fill at between 6-7.
I need to know what kind of lights you have.

Main-to set positionmake straight on stand level like a "T" on the stand.
raise the stand 1 foot above the tallest subjects head. then tilt to about a 45 degree angle(the hot spot should be on his chest)

then your fill should be at eye level and the head should be straight.

back light should be at the subjects lower back hight and pointed at thebackground..

when all is like this-test shot and post.
and let me know what lights they are.
I will do all I can to help you figure this out.


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February 01, 2006

 

Pat Wimpee
  Sandra, The Brixley family is definately in my prayers tonight.


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February 01, 2006

 

Sandra
  Pat,
Thanks


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February 01, 2006

 

Tonya Cozart
  hey...those of you out there that make collages to sell...what size do you generally make them and how much are you charging?

The ones I am working on I am making 11x13,16x20, 20x10(don't know about framing that size), but I am clueless as to what to charge...need some help please!


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February 01, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  Yes Sandra,
I am sorry for the loss of your friends and yours as well.
I am sure we all will pray for thier peace and memories of the joy you all shared.
Debby


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February 01, 2006

 

Chris Van Antwerp
  Sandra, we will be praying for the brixley family here as well. Go bless all those who serve our country so that we may do what we do.

Chris
USAF 1986-1994


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February 01, 2006

 

Tonya Cozart
  Sandra,

I too am so sorry for such a tragic loss. May God be with all of you.


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February 01, 2006

 

Sandra
  Debby, Chris, Tonya,
Thanks the family needs lots of prayers.

Good nite and May God be with all of you.


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February 01, 2006

 

Brenda M. Wolfensberger
  Tonya, I made my "Jacqueline" collaged with her name everywhere in 11 x 14 size. I knew it would be for us only and that I wouldn't want it larger than that. Not sure what I would do if someone were paying for it.

Sandra, I'm sorry for the loss of your friend. You and their families will be in my thoughts and prayers. I think of them daily as I have several cousins that have been there or still are and my nieces husband is heading there next month for his second time. (Chris, I too am former USAF 1985-1989 and then reserves)


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February 02, 2006

 

Kristy L. Hargis
  Sandra, I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend! Your family & theirs will be in our prayers!

collages, I usually do an 8X10, but it is at the customers request. I usually charge 14 dollars to make one & that is with only 5 pictures. I would love to know how to make those name things in photoshop, if anyone want to share to know how! I could sit here for 2 hours & so & figure it out maybe LOL!! I seen some sort of instuction on it somewhere in the how to's. But if anyone knows the steps feel free to email them to me!


Kristy


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February 02, 2006

 

Nicole E. Rappaport
  Sandra, I will certainly keep the Brixley family in my prayers...

Erinn thanks for the advertising advice, I do not have a studio yet, but I can definitely see one in my future! :)


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February 02, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  Kisty,
I know all this is so furstrating- I struggle myself!
thats why I myself I am looking forward to a workshop!
So I have a DAY .a whole DAY where Liza is trapped haveing to answer my stupid questions!lol,lol.

Michelle Anderson-I hope all is well with you-we haven't heard from you for a while.
Chris is in your area and really wants a workshop. I asked him to email you.

and anyone else we were hopeing to get these to you before the Easter holiday. But unless we fill them -we have to cansel the date.- I need at least two weeks to set the flight arrangments.
So in trying to fill the Californis workshop- I am going to the collages here, so I hope to let you know soon Liza.

My colloages suck. and I hope to get this Mastered(ha) before the next Christmas holiday.

well I hope everyone has a GREAT start to this New day.

Sandra,
Gods gift is today! remember there is strength in time and healing in the joy of memories.


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February 02, 2006

 

Liza M. Franco
  Kristy, please be careful not to sell yourself short. I think others will agree with me that an 8x10 with computer work could sell for a lot more. I bet you could easily get $20-$35 for a collage, depending on how fancy it is and of course, the area in which you live.

I live in a really small town and was so afraid of charging too much. Then I realized that the work I do is different and nobody minded my prices. You can always start with a higher price and go lower as needed. If you start low then there is nowhere left to go. Also people start to expect your prices to be low and they'll always want that same low price.

I enjoy computer work and was just happy to practically give my work away in the beginning. But as time goes on and you want bigger and better equipment you start to realize that you need a bigger profit margin to get that equipment. Even if you enjoy computer work, you have to get paid for that time spent making their beautiful collage.

For those of you using the templates, whether they are ones you've purchased or designed yourself, don't skimp on price. I know that the work flow is easy once you already have a template and all you are doing is popping in your photos, but you bought or designed that template so that you could make a profit.

I want to see everyone succeed, don't sell yourselves short. For most photographers, you do this because you enjoy it, but remember, we all want bigger and better equipment at some point :)


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February 02, 2006

 

Liza M. Franco
  Kristy, you asked about the name collages. I have to run out for a bit, but I will be happy to fill you in on that as soon as I get back. Everyone does them a little bit different as we each add our own style. But I'll give you some basics and helpful hints to get you on your way.


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February 02, 2006

 

Tonya Cozart
  Liza...
I live in a small town too, and right now have matched my pricing to compete with some of the larger studios in surrounding towns...that is where everyone goes. I think that is a good place for me to start, however I don't know of anyplace that does collages, so I am singular in the market, but still have no clue about pricing, I was thiking in the $30-$60 dollar range, depending on size...what do you think? Do you mind offering what you charge?


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February 02, 2006

 

Kristy L. Hargis
  Hi Liza,
I charge 14.00 dollars just for making it. That dosent include the prints.I am in a small town also & you have to at least 30 miles to any other photography place. The collages are pretty simple, I thought that was a fair starting out price! I am just opening my business & hopeing that brings in customers. My LOW prices. When I learn to make the name collages I will charge more for them!! I may start working on one of tem after the kids go to bed tonight. I may get my daughter to take some pictures this afternoon to. So look forward to some pictures after while!!
TTYS
Kristy


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February 02, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  Good Morning Liza, Liza!
I hope you have a great day and the new studio space is coming along.


To anyone looking for lights:
PLEASE NOTE!! there is what looks to be a wonderful set of Studio Max lights starting at .99
These are the very old version of Studio Max and ARE NOT Like the Studio Max II or Studio Max III generations of lights.
These are good for small spot lights, extra light.
BUT THEY ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE with the other Photogenic assesories.

I just wanted to be clear so no one bought a product that they were expecting more from.

I hope this helps.

There are some WONDERFUL Photogenic light heads listed at this time, including mine - but single light heads-
no real kits(the one who does list studio max kits is more expensive then B&H and Sammy's)

but there are some wonderful lightheads listed for those who want to build a kit- I will help you find what you need -and you may get a better deal.
My 2500DR's cost around 900.00 each -got them on ebay for less then half.
i do hope this helps,
Debby


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February 02, 2006

 

Laura E. OConnor
  HI ALL! GADS! SO MUCH TO CATCH UP ON!!!

Sandra, SO SORRY to hear about your friends' tragic loss and your own! My thoughts and prayers are with you all!


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February 02, 2006

 

Chris Van Antwerp
  Good morning all. Didn't get to practice any studio stuff last night. Wife was sick, we had church and Dad was in charge of my four and two others last night. Plus I needed to take care of business and tax stuff. Yuck!

Debby I tried to locate Michelle Anderson on BP but am having no luck. By the way your collages do NOT suck. I will be stealing some of your ideas to use as my own.

Kristy I love the collage(name) idea and I am going to include some examples in my portfolio. I am not sure about pricing but I think I'll follow your lead and charge to make it and for the prints themselves. I currently don't know of anyone in my area doing it, and it it fairly easy to do.

Looking forward to a workshop in the Washington State area.

Chris


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February 02, 2006

 

Debby A. Tabb
  Good Morning Chris and Laura,

Chris you are a sweetheart! and it was good talking to you last night.
I hope "your sweetheart" starts feeling better soon-that flu is a really hard one to get over"

Laura and I both had it over and over.
she sent it to me-I JUST KNOW SHE DID!lol,lol

Laura, when you get a second give me a call-k
I want to share something with you.


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February 02, 2006

 

Erinn Aloi
 
 
 
Here's a little cutie I did this morning. BOY was she TOUGH!! GRRRRR...
but I think a got a couople!


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February 02, 2006

 

Erinn Aloi
 
 
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Here's a little cutie I did this morning. BOY was she TOUGH!! GRRRRR...
but I think a got a couople!


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