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Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 

STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY #16


STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY PART #16


WELCOMES ALL MEMBERS WHO LOVE STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY AND PORTRAITURE .
WE ENJOY WORKING TOGETHER AND HAVING FUN!!
WE WORK THROUGH STUDIO SET UP , INTO THE OPERATIONS OF DOING THE BUSINESS OF STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY
This is now part #12 of the on going Thread on Studio Photography,OVER 6 months long.Don't be affraid to jump in and ask away, if we've answered it we can tell you where to find the answer, or get a answer for you.
From start to finish we discuss Buying equipment,Setting up your Studio(home or moblie) and the Business of..

Grab a cup of coffee(or...) and catch up and join us, here are the other links:
PART1:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=17534
PART 2:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=18585
PART3:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=19127
PART 4:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=19665
PART 5: http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=20008

PART #6:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=20255

PART #7:http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=20455

PART # 8:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=20773

PART #9
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=21098

PART #10:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=21439

PART#11:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=21744

PART#12:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=21855

Part #13:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=21981

Part #14:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.asp?threadID=22019

Part #15:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=22094


IT IS GREAT WE HAVE SO MANY NEW PEOPLE JOINING IN AND ADDING SO MUCH FUN!!!!
We have started a STUDIO GROUP MAP
For those intrested in sharing where they are and if they would like to be involved in extra get together type meetings and WORKSHOPS OF POSING AND PHOTOSHOP:
http://www.frappr.com/studiogroup


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2/1/2006 7:45:49 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  ok, you were just hurrying me!!
where are ya,la,la,la,la...

Hey , WHERe ARE YA!

lol,lol,lol


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2/1/2006 7:52:12 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 

I am alone :-(

:-0 :-0 I think this is scary...


lol,lol


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2/1/2006 8:03:45 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  I'm here Debby! Good morning....not having any coffe here, I am a dr pepper girl!
wonder how many messages we can post today...LOL


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2/1/2006 8:05:52 AM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis   I am here to!! I a DR PEPPER girl to LOL!! I may have a little girl coming today to get pictures done!! My alein bees will be here today!! Did you guys know they are located around nasville & I am about 2 hours from there!! I am so excited!! I got my studio set up & done just a few more minor things, but it is usable!! LOL!! I am doing the collage of the newborn baby picture I did the other day. She is almost 4 months old! You guys got any nice sayings to put on one! Any ideas are welcome!! I have been checking in & keeping up & I think the photo CD's with music are an awesome idea! I am going to have to look into doing something like that!!
Look for some pictures later from me!!
Kristy


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2/1/2006 8:13:23 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Good Moning Tonya!!

I bet Laura is getting into another cup of coffee right now!
I geuss we have to yell real loud to get her here, and Danelle too!
they were up wanting company this morning.

LAURA!!!! DANELLE!!!!
HERE WE ARE!!!!LOL

you know I just love buggin' Laura,lol


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2/1/2006 8:14:35 AM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  This is more like it! :) Checking in. Now I'm off to work all day.


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2/1/2006 8:21:51 AM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Good Morning...Not having coffee or dr pepper, I have to have my diet coke and chocolate!!!

Debby, Laura or Liza what did ya'll come up with the workshop Houston or Dallas and when I want to attend a workshop but I need to know when I have 2 wedding's and my son graduation in May. Debby even if I attend one I still will host one in louisiana during COTTON TIME for you...


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2/1/2006 8:22:23 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Danielle, have a great day!

And Sandra, you are WONDERFUL!!!

and so sweet,lol!
if any of you have not seen Sandra's gallery you should really take a look she has some really wonderful shoots!!
but she knows my favorites are those cotten fields!!
really take a look!


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2/1/2006 8:26:51 AM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Hey there everybody! I have a project that I am working with my sis in law. She is about 12 weeks preggo and is already showing. She is a tiny thing! I want to make some kind of time line with her using some kind of object with her possiably every month when I take her picture. Any ideas and poses?


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2/1/2006 8:32:49 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Hey Sandra, are you guys cotton farmers, or just surrounded by it? LOL...I know there is lots and lots of it in LA, ya'll get some good cotton there! My husband is a cotton farmer, along with generations of his family...I live right in the big middle of it. One of my slide shows...daddy and me...is my son and hubby on the tractor and in the fields...I have a couple of my son in the cotton posted in my gallery too. Your pics in the cotton are very very cute! I need to do that more!


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2/1/2006 8:36:31 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Mellissa,
the things that come to mind right now are:
a measuring tape or ribbon with markings on it.
(this she could always keep)
standing in front of a tree trunk out side.

a beach ball might be fun, to see how close to it's size she gets.

I will think of it though.


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2/1/2006 8:37:23 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  hey, also I would like to know:

who got what lights?
Tonya did you order yours and if so what kind did you go with?


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2/1/2006 8:45:06 AM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Hey all, I'm here, lurking abit lately as sophie has been sick.. Ok, so who was it that was designing web sites, I have looked into templates and frankly I do not have the patience to put all pics in myself blah blah, and I need a site that contains music.. show yourself, I totally forgot who this was, if your'e out there do you have any examples of site you have created.. thanks much.. debbie


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2/1/2006 8:45:13 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Debbie,
It is Daniella and she is doing my site- but I have been holding her up.

she has already sent me samples but I have been sick and busy with some studio and CD stuff: a combanation that doesn't work well for me.lol.

She had to go to work-but she'll be back at the thread later this evening.
about 4:00 or 5:00 on our Ca time.


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2/1/2006 8:50:10 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  OH I'M HERE, I'M HERE! STOP YELLIN' ALREADY!!!!!

Actually, I haven't had any coffee, yet. Cleaning up the house, feeding the kids, sending info to prospective clients, getting my new materntiy and newborn packages together to post on my site, researching the DVD/CD thing, digital photo books and photo handbags!!! No coffee yet! AGH!

Kristy! GREAT NEWS ABOUT THE LIGHTS & SESSION!!! Good luck, can't wait to see some pics posted!

Sandra, not sure if it's Houston or Dallas, yet. Not enough people have signed up on the frappr map! IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN A WORKSHOP IN HOUSTON OR DALLAS... Please sign up in the general discussion on the frappr map under the Houston/Dallas post! THANKS! We can't plan it til we have enough people!!! HECK! If we can't get enough people here, I'll come out to LA (that's Louisiana, Debby, not Los Angeles... sorry!!)

Debbie V, Danielle is your girl.


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2/1/2006 8:53:32 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Is that it! and you hadn't taken the time to check in before now!! uuugh!
lol,lol
and what the heck!
I was plannin'om this LA thing! ,lol

dang it I am always alone out here!
this sucks,lol,lol.


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2/1/2006 8:57:22 AM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Hey Tonya,
I'm just surrounded by cotton fields and crawfish ponds. I worked many years at the cotton gin. I quit when Ashley was born. One of my best friends is a farmer, a very good farmer, one of the best here. I don't know what other cotton farmers in other states get but he get about 3 bales per acre. Sooo it looks like snow so white far miles and miles. ITS BEAUTIFUF...


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2/1/2006 8:59:51 AM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Sandra, chocolate for breakfast, you're my kind of girl, lol.

Your gallery was very nice, Debby was definately right! :)


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2/1/2006 9:20:09 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Laura....come on now, I could do all those things and have coffe too!! LOL!! You are a good multitasker...that is a great skill to have! I can do that most of the time, but sometimes I get stuck...LOL

Debby T...I went with this kit from Steve...1..HS-2000...440 w/s...3 1/2 lbs...On /Off Switch...100 watt modeling lamp...Test button...Full, Half & 1/4 power...Recycling time 2-5 seconds.. Built in slave...Ready light....Universal light stand mount...Flash cover...10' power cord...plug in flash tube(10,000 flash life)...1 year factory warranty.

2.. PS-300s... 150W/S...Weight: 2 1/2lbs...On / Off Switch...50 Watt Halogen Modeling Lamp...Flash Test Button...Full & Half Power Switch...Recycling Time 1-3 Seconds ...Built-in-Slave... Ready light ...plug in quartz flash tube (10,000 flash life) Universal Light Stand Mount...Flash Cover...2 10' Power Cord...1 year factory warranty

1..Snoot

1..Honey comb

1..Umbrella light holder for SD-400


1..SD-400 mini slave80w/s of power
2..Umbrella light reflectors for PS-200

2..10' sync cords

1..307 light stand extends to 7.5 feet for HS-2000

2..306 light stands extends to 6.5 feet

1..303 backlight stand extends to 3.3 feet

1...32"x32" pro soft box

2..32" white umbrellas

1..Pro carrry bag with wheels and handle

He replaced the SM200 with the SD 400, hopefully it will be better.
Hubby and I talked it over, and he wanted me to stick in that price range if I could ($599), because our cotton has not been gined yet and money is tight, he said if I need to upgrade later then we can get the better stuff then...so how could I complain? I am just excited to have some coming and relieved to have the search over...at least for now, it can be exhausting...lol

Sandra, that is a good crop your friend makes...is that with our without irrigation? I figure the farmers around there make that without irrigating cause it is wet enough. My hubby and brother made 3 and 4 bales this year on their irrigated, but it is odd to make over 2 on dryland...it is really dry out here...especially now, if it does not rain there won't be many opportunities for pics this season...:(
anyway...blah blah blahing is over
talk to you all again later...little one needs a nap


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2/1/2006 9:41:33 AM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  HI all just checking in! Just got back from my MOPS (mothers of preschoolers) meeting and I'm trying to catch up while Aaron eats lunch. thank goodnes for laptops!


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2/1/2006 9:54:22 AM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  thanks debby and laura, I wil chat with danielle later today.. debbie


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2/1/2006 10:02:55 AM

 
Pat Wimpee   Hey Laura, I send you an email but I thought I'd let you know or you might not open it:) Thanks


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2/1/2006 11:00:22 AM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Hey! I'm actually home for lunch. I came home cause I thought the UPS guy would have delivered my new and much anticipated lens but he hasn't yet! :( Which means I probably won't get it until tomorrow. Bother.

Anyway... yeah I'm the web designer. I don't have a vast number of examples to show you. I have done one photography site in the past but it's no longer up for display (much to my dismay... oh that rhymes). But as far as other sites go... I have www.rutterfamily.com and www.daniellerutter.com and my portfolio www.madebyme4u.com. Soon I'll have Debby's site and hopefully Laura's too, if all goes well. Talk to you soon!


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2/1/2006 11:31:19 AM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
  Boy you can't leave this thread for a second without getting left behind. Had a bunch of thins to to this AM. Volunteer at my kindergaatners schools and get info for senior pkgs to some of the local schools. Hung flyers all over two towns. Took some framed work to a local flower shop that agreed to hang it with some of my brochuers.

So with all that and a newspaper AD I should have customers beating a path to my door LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!

So now I am home and can sort through last nights practice session and post some of the results here.

As far a web design, I have worked out a trade with a gentleman to provide a family portrait session in exchange for web design. I love trade.

Talk to you ladies in a bit. Need to get Shane to bed.

Chris


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2/1/2006 12:14:00 PM

 
Nicole E. Rappaport
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/4/2004
  hello! I am checking in again and I have a question...

after reading Chris' post I realized that I have no idea where to start advertising wise. I am just starting out so I do not want to spend a whole lot of $$. I did get some business cards though. does anyone have any good suggestions on how to get your name out there? I apologize if this has already been asked.

thanks!
Nicole


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2/1/2006 12:17:26 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Hi there! Does anyone provide their clients with printed proofs in an album? If so, can I ask where you get you albums?

Thanks!


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2/1/2006 12:52:56 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Poppin' in to get on the new thread. Trying to get all my studio stuff back home from the hubby's shop and getting studion space ready here at the house. Gonna paint some walls today and can't wait to get that out of the way so that I can start setting up permanent sceneries to use. I'm like a little kid, all excited.


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2/1/2006 1:01:47 PM

 
Amber Bigelow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/15/2004
  Just checkin' in. Man you guys move so fast!!! No more pictures to post yet. BUT we might be moving soon to the next city over and will hopefully get a bigger house...which means more room for my studio stuff! Yipee!!! Keep your fingers crossed for me. (it's been nonstop drama for a week now over this) But it also means I have to focus on getting my house ready to sell, so less time to play. :( It's like dangling a carrot in front of a rabbit. I FINALLY get my lights and then can barely play with them!


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2/1/2006 1:21:47 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Nicole,
I jumped into business almost 2 years ago with a studio. it's on a fairly well traveled road. i'm on the corner where there is a traffic light. So I put some pictures in the window and keep changing them every few weeks. Now people like to see what's new while the light is red! I didn't have a sign for almost the first year! I put up an awning with my business name on it and then people started calling. before that it was just people in the neighborhood walking by. They would come in, and show their friends their pictures, and then the friends would come in. I think that is how I get MOST of my business. SInce I won the BP website, I've had many inquiry's about weddings. but haven't actually booked one from the website yet, i'm still giving them pricing. Word of mouth has done me the best so far! THe only "advertising" I have done so far is business cards, and my awning! I'm as busy as I want to be right now!
Erinn


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2/1/2006 1:27:01 PM

 
Pat Wimpee   Laura, Thanks for looking at my gallery. What do you think a realistic price for that would be? Do you think people would spend 40-50 dollars on something like that?

Liza- Are you the one who does cd templets? I'm looking for some borders and frames. Thanks


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2/1/2006 2:31:39 PM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
 
 
 
OK ladies here goes. Let me first start by saying that last night was very frustrating. I thought I had my ducks in a row and now realize that I have a lot of work to do.

Give me your 100% honest opinion.

I took 100 shots last night and every time I kept thinking why in the world am I doing this. I know I can learn studio photography. I have done pretty well at outdoor sittings but indoor has me stumped.

The picture of me makes me look blue, how do I stop that?

I obviously need help w/posing.

Do I need different color backdrops or gels? I got the package that Steve Kaeser sells on E-bay with the supports and one white/one black 9X20 muslins. Need to make more $$$ to get more, but if the shots look like these I may have to.......

Anyway enough of the ramblings of me. Please look at these and give me feedback.

Thanks, Chris


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2/1/2006 2:36:26 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  hey Chris,
where are these posted at?

lets see what we have and then we can go from there.

Please also tell me witch package you got from steve.

and the setting on the camera and light placement.

Please all, remember I am doing this though the internet- I am pretty good at having a idea of what maybe happening but basic info is really a must to get you going faster.
thank you,
Debby


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2/1/2006 2:48:03 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Chris,
Tat was wierd, they didn't show on my computer until now.
Ok, this is so much easier to do by phone-thats How Laura and I do it and it is easier to say try this...
and be able to discribe in detail.

and then sometimes she usd to try with me on the phone.
POOR TIM!lol,lol
Ok please give me a moment to make notes.
and study what may be happening.
**On you, you didn,t change anything.
there was no window where a cars lights came through(they tend to throw a blue cast) and no painted walls to interfer?


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2/1/2006 3:00:23 PM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
  Debby, sorry it took so long to finish the post I got side-tracked by a three year old.
The package I got from Steve was The 10'x20' Black and White Muslins and Pro support system for 219.

Settings for all of the shots were ISO 200 1/200 f/22. Main and fill were at 7 and 5 respectively and back was moved around a bit.

The main was moved on the picture of Nikki because we were trying something different.

Chris


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2/1/2006 3:02:06 PM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
  Debbiy, no other sources of light were around. The only thing I can think of is that my wife may have changed a setting that I didn't realize at the time. She is learning the camera and those buttons can be a challenge. I know they were for me when I first started.

Would love to be able to talk on the phone with you about this.

Chris


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2/1/2006 3:07:29 PM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Christine,
I do my proofs for clients in prints/albums!!

I don't know if they are the best deal in town, but I LOVE www.hubphoto.com

They have awesome quality and they ship fast. They have instituted a min order recently, I think it's $35 ish, so you have to get a few things at once.

If I'm doing a portrait session, I use their Deluxe Preview Album- it's like the pro's use (olan mills, etc) and holds 20 photos (available in all the sizes and various colors).

They also have the gorgeous CD cases that match the Preview Album.

Love it!


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2/1/2006 3:08:51 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Chris,
If you have a nation free phone lan- email me I will give you a number if you want to call-that wil be much easier.

now with all due respect to every one.
I am only here to try to help you in Studio Photography.
I appreciate it much more if you all would slow down- all this will come so much easier and faster if you will concentrate on one thing at a time.
your lights hit th efront pourch and ya'll take off runnin"!!lol,lol.
Though the enthusiaium is nice- your eyes can't get used to what they need to know . you should be able to place the the light and see how it will lay, and see the shadow and hot spots.
and as far as dramatic lighting ,I didn't tell Laura how to do that until she had been using her lights a bit.
It is all so fun, but I am afraid you might be getting cheated- if you don't master one thing then move on to the next.
I have always said take the time to move your lights.practise and get to know them.
so really we should start by setting them up and taking practise shots with the full lightig first then moving on to seeing how light moves and sets of the human form.
do you all understand that? I geuss what I want you to know is I think you keep more clients if you perfect your skill first. you can see that in Lauras work through the first few threads.


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2/1/2006 3:19:23 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  just a note The products Olan Mills uses are made by TAP.
so there are a feww different distrbuters of TAB products so you can price check.

they use the 5x7 8 incert portfolios and the 20 insert Leather bound witch are beautiful.

just to help ya get the best price.


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2/1/2006 3:25:18 PM

 
Liz Hincka   Hello all, I am behind on lots of compliments, so I will say in general that I have enjoyed lurking at all the posts and progress everyone is making. Thanks for those of you who responded to my question a couple threads ago about backdrops.

Christine, some people I do photos of really like to see the pics over getting a CD. For those people, I put the pics in an accordian like black waffle board folder that holds 8 pics. I buy them from Albums Incorporated. I think the last time I ordered, they were about a buck a piece. I buy ribbon on sale after Holidays and have local school colors for Seniors and tie a nice bow around the board all folded up. I think way back in the early threads we talked about the presentation and it really works. Anyway, long story short, Albums Inc.


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2/1/2006 3:29:59 PM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
  Debby, thank you for that. I think you are right. I do need to get a grasp of the basic three light setup before I start trying the other stuff. I am going to concentrate on getting it right the basic way first. I don't want any of my customers suffering because I want to try something different.

I am willing to listen to any constructive critisism or advice that you would be willing to give.

Chris


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2/1/2006 3:51:20 PM

 
Sandi DeBondt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/12/2006
 
 
 
Hi all. I asked a question a while back and did not get an answer. I hope someone out there can help me (Debby T?).

When I had my first session this last Saturday, I had a baby and a two-year-old. I took a total of 63 portraits, but only half were usable because of motion blur. I had three lights, main, fill and back. Do I need to change my ISO (it was on 200)? I did try to increase it to 400 later, but that did not seem to help. I am getting enough light from the lights, I just don't understand. If you would like, you can see some of the photos in my gallery (I don't know how to get them in this thread, although I will try again now). Thank you.


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2/1/2006 3:52:39 PM

 
Sandi DeBondt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/12/2006
 
 
 
Hi all. I asked a question a while back and did not get an answer. I hope someone out there can help me (Debby T?).

When I had my first session this last Saturday, I had a baby and a two-year-old. I took a total of 63 portraits, but only half were usable because of motion blur. I had three lights, main, fill and back. Do I need to change my ISO (it was on 200)? I did try to increase it to 400 later, but that did not seem to help. I am getting enough light from the lights, I just don't understand. If you would like, you can see some of the photos in my gallery (I don't know how to get them in this thread, although I will try again now). Thank you.


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2/1/2006 3:53:13 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Chris,
I sent you the number by email.
so if you would like to call feel free.

I will try to post back on these shots,but I am in the middle of a few things that makes the phone easier.

and it's really hard when there are multible shots because you can't see them as you post- so I have to make notes an d then post back.
BUt I love when you guys post these that may have issues, because then every one gets to learn how to solve a problem when it occers.
When I was doing my own little studio stuff in my Grooming shop- I had to learn by myself-I did know about better photo.
But when I started working for Corprate stores well you learn alot of maintance because you have a
" help desk"
and you call and say I can't get the color in the back drop oh my gosh!
and a calm voice on the other end says"turn on the back light" and you feel so stupid.
BUt you learn alot,don't ya Daneille.
so some of this stuff we can see it and say -hey did ya lower your lights or hey raise your lights.
I had to evaluate portraits as part of evaluating a photographer- so you get used to seeing this stuff.
BUT I HATE~TO TYPE!
so Laura would spend a lot of time on the phone,lol,lol


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2/1/2006 3:54:26 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  sandi,
I don't know why but these aren't coming up big enough when pened to see any blur.
I always post mine sized at 4x6 and 300dpi.
maybe try that - so maybe I can see.you can email me for th enumber also if you like.
Laura, can you see the blur?


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2/1/2006 4:05:28 PM

 
Justin G.
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/13/2004
  All, I copied and pasted this from my other thread so that people who go through the "series" can maybe get some help from my experience. here goes nothing.

...Hey guys, I finally got my first job. it'll be expenses only buy hey its a job! anyways I'm going to be shooting an actress for, as you see above!, theatrical headshots. at first I said "hey, not too bad, some headshots". as I read some "actress tips pages", i'm learning how vitally important it is for an actress to have ABSOLUTELY PERFECT, NOTHING LESS of a headshot. it's the first impression of an actress to a director, it has the ability to make or break the actress, and needs to be technically perfect as well as pose perfect. I read that it must show the TRUEST character of the actress.

well as you can see i'm getting nervous. I thought hey, I could play around and work on getting the lights perfect..i'm not too good at posing yet but we'll get by. AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH I can really screw over this model, I hope you guys realize the pressure on me. anyways when I call her i'm going to advise her we'll shoot as much as possible to get it PERFECT... NOTHING LESS THAN PERFECT.

#1. Am I overreacting?
#2. I've never worked with a model other than my wife.
#3. How can I bring out expression of true character in the actress?
#4. Any lighting style tips?

... I'm thinking of doing some clamshell, very flattering. I'm also thinking of this:

2/3 Pose with main (47" octabox) @ the 9:00. silver reflector around camera right to fill shadows for her face. medium softbox at the rear for hair highlights. should I meter this w/ main or 1/2 - 1 stop less? i'm thinking about 1/2 stop down from main.

I'm also thinking of using a light blue backdrop..shooting B&W film will give a nice gray tone (she's a black lady). i'm thinking (no offense to black people) that i'll lose her hair with a black background and white would be overpowering. should I do a flat backdrop or make it wavy for some texture (i don't want to steal from her).

I know this is a thousand questions but any tips on any and all would help so much. I'm nervous, but she told me this is new for her to, so that i'm a little relieved. thx again.

the ever-worried about her career,
justin


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2/1/2006 4:10:56 PM

 
Sandi DeBondt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/12/2006
  Sorry, Debby these are not the blurred photos. I deleted them because they upset me that they were not good enough. But there was definite motion blur. In one, the baby's hand was moving and it was totally blurred. I just thought that if I had enough light it would not blur, like when I take pictures in natural light, which is where I have always taken pictures before. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks so much!


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2/1/2006 4:22:24 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Justin,
I alway enjoy seeing you here. But, I am on areal time scheadule over some things
But, I had to chime in here.
#1 you WILL have a blast, you ALWAYS seem to enjoy a challenge.I have no doubts YOu will give this your all!
#2 Justin! DO IT ALL!!!!why not my friend- she is saying she istrusting you will do your best-again I belive she knows you
Please , take your time. move your lights and watch the most beautiful skin tones are lying in the Black skin.
when you see the pinks or golds showing you are really on target.
# 3 Justin, Try the black background , move your lights closer- bring the lights closer to a dark skin person and further from a light.
again you'll see the color come out as you are on target.and bring the hair light in as well. you have this chance to play-so PLAY!!
I torchered my boss years ago- because some woman said I could photograph black people- "Olan Mills doen't teach thier people how to shoot black folks" SEE, I still remember.
So I made her promise to try me.
she made a family appointment for the weekend.
and I called my Boss(a striking Black woman!!!told her not to help me just pose-she was always so good to me! thank you Auny Robinson!!)
and I got my experiance-and my sitting -and a Huge order from that woman and we had a GOOD time.
so take your Op for experiance.
gotta go.


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2/1/2006 4:36:01 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Sandi,
lol,lol for goodness sakes-I was just telling Laura that my eyes are bothering me again. and so I was going nuts!!!lol,lol,lol

but thank goodness you told me.lol,lol
silly do you have any of those left if so post one and I will take a look.
thank you.


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2/1/2006 4:38:45 PM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Hubphoto uses TAP products like Debby mentioned. They are soooo nice. Every type of album I've bought from them I've loved!


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2/1/2006 4:53:17 PM

 
Justin G.
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/13/2004
  Thank you Deb for the motivation! :-) anyways I won't be seeing golds, for some reason my film lacks color, hmm something wrong? (just pullin your leg!).
p.s. my vacation won't be long, only like 120 days. I get everyone mixed up but don't your kids take year long vacations?


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2/1/2006 5:18:18 PM

 
Sandi DeBondt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/12/2006
  Debby, LOL. I didn't mean to make you think you're eyes were going bad! I'm at a different computer now, but I will try again to post a blurred picture. I think I have one. Sorry for the confusion. LOL!!!


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2/1/2006 5:29:07 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
HI all!!
Dont know if you guys remember that I said I had a shot this afternoon & I was getting my lights. Well she walked in my studio when I was putting them together LOL!! I told her to just give me one min LOL!! But they turned out wonderful! Let me know what think!!
Kristy


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2/1/2006 5:57:24 PM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Hi Kristy,
Wow!!! Great Job... Love THE ROSE.


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2/1/2006 6:18:47 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
Thanks Sandra! My new lights are truely awesome!
Well on another note! A few days ago my old lights that I wasnt to happy about I salvaged the pictures I did with them & also made the Angel baby collage! Let me know what you guys think on these good or bad!! LOL!!


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2/1/2006 6:25:19 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Kristy,
I think they are pretty good!! I don't care for the filter you used though! but that's just my opinion.
Erinn


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2/1/2006 6:30:26 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
i AM SORRY , I AM RUNNING.
JUSTIN, YOU GOOFBALL,LOL,LOL I MEAN WHEN YOU SEE THE GOLD OR PINK IN HER SKIN(BLACK SKINED PEOPLE HAVE A DISTINT GOLD OR PINK TONE)
I KNOW YOUR USING B/W FILM,LOL,LOL
I JUST LOVE YA! WHEN ARE YOU GOING?
NOT SOON I HOPE.CAREFUL.OK.

KRISTY, HONEY GREAT JOB FOR THROWN UP THE LIGHTS,LOL!!! I LOVE THIS STORY.
NOW I HAVE TA TELL YA-SWITCH THEM : THE MAIN AT 3-4 AND THE FILL AT 6-7.
AND YOUR GOOD.

OK I HAD TO HURRY THROUGH SOME SHOTS TO GET THAT BACKDROP UP TONIGHT AND I WANTED TO SHARE MY GOOFBALLS.


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2/1/2006 6:44:21 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis   Thanks Erinn!
I thought the fitler was ok, but my favorite of her is looking away. The one at the top!!
Kristy


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2/1/2006 6:45:19 PM

 
Justin G.
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/13/2004
  Anytime from February to May. Oh wait that's now! lol. some notice huh? i'm currently packing my stuff up now and putting everything in storage. anybody want to hold my stuff for me while i'm gone? j/k sorry, lol! i'll keep in touch, we'll have computers! hopefully BP and the Sig won't be blocked, my life will be over! :-( not to mention that ashley will be closer to the fight than I will, oh well they have an indoor pool and a spa at her base! wow the air force is so rough on us in the dirt! haha had to rub that in! p.s. i'm taking my AE-1's so you guys can see some pics of the locals!


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2/1/2006 6:52:59 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Kristy,
on the soft focus one of Olivia, could you use the brush to bring back her eyes to clear? they look really fuzzy.
I like the shots in the collage, but something bothers me about the white spots? know what I mean? and are they all slightly opaque? I can't tell.
I like the shot of her with the flower though!! just not the filter thingie.
what lights did you get? I must of missed that.
Erinn


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2/1/2006 6:54:46 PM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Kristy- I love the first two!!! So great, you'd never guess you were just throwing up the lights. So many people have taken days, weeks to get usable pics w/ their lights. But sounds like you've had some before, that must be the difference!!! Very nice.


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2/1/2006 7:01:33 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Justin,
Ya,know- right.

other then that try to find some fun.
and have yourselves a wonderful adventure.
hey at least they are letting Ashly go as well.
you'll have your model for your off time.
please check in and THANK YOU!!


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2/1/2006 7:02:04 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis   Erinn,
I will try that on the soft focus on. I think I had my camera setting a little of to. I am just learning the manual modes. I told her I would do a few in manual mode. The white spots on the collage are of the background I set in. It is a white satin background. I can try to tone them down in photoshop! They didnt stick out that far till they were mentioned! LOL!!
Debby I will do that. I was also wondering, do I need to put my soft box on the fill light or the main. I put it on the most power ful one the Alien bees 800. Then put the umbrella on the 400. Or do I need to switch that around to? Thanks for the information debby!!
Denyse, Thanks for the compliment! the first 2 are my favorites!
Yes I do have some photo flood lights & a few low wattage strobes. Then I got these other strobes I got from ebay that I just dont like!!

But I just adore my new lights!!
Thanks again
Kristy


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2/1/2006 7:13:09 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Kristy,
that is perfect: softbox on the main and the umbrella on the fill.
have fun, did you get a backlight yet?


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2/1/2006 7:20:15 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis   well I was just using a refelctor across from the main light. What kind of back light do I need. Can I use one of my basic photo lights or my low wattage strobe?


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2/1/2006 7:25:49 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  sure you can-use two if you want.

I love having two backlights, you can gel them different coloers for a great effect.
also you can use one of those as a hair light.
just a thought


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2/1/2006 7:30:39 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Hi Debby, thought I'd give caulking and painting up for a little bit and check in.

Pat, I am the one with the template cds. You can view and/or purchase them at lizafranco.com Let me know if you have any questions.


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2/1/2006 7:36:15 PM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  This has nothing to do with photograph, but I would like to ask ya'll to have The Brixey family in your prayers. Lance Cpt. Billy Brixey was killed in Afghanistan. He was only 21. He was the son of a high friend.
Thanks Sandra

P.S. Please remember all of our men and women (serving our coutry) in your prayers.


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2/1/2006 8:01:22 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
 
 
 
Kristi, great pics! Beautiful little girl as well...nice to have such a photogenic model! I think you did great with your new lights...congratulations! I love the one where she is looking away too, her eyes are so bright!

I can't remember who it was that gave some instructions for making the name collage in photoshop, but THANKS again. I just got time to play with it today, and it was SOOOO easy!
here are a couple I did...


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2/1/2006 8:08:44 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
 
 
 
Okay, I made chocolate cake today, took my son to kindergarten, picked him up, took him to piano class, went downtown, back and forth back and forth and was wondering why I had no email. I didn't even know you guys went to a new thread until tonight. And it's almost full! LOL

Anyway, I was testing my lights again.
Tried 2 different backdrops. Sometimes my strobe goes off and sometimes it doesn't. Debby- I did what you said and set my camera to ISO 200 1/200 f/22
but the strobe didn't go off.
Then at the times it went off, it looks yellow on the left side. (Could be from the lab though, that has happened in the past)
This was all with the black backdrop.
When I used the blue backdrop, everything looks so washed out.
I'm going crazy cause I have clients booked about 2 weeks from now.
Help!!


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2/1/2006 8:11:38 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Dawn - despite lighting issues... those pics are really cute. Especially the first ones. Looks like you got some natural little models on your hands. :)


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2/1/2006 8:29:37 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Ok Dawn,
set camera as suggested, main at between 3-4 oclock, camera at 6:00 and fill at between 6-7.
I need to know what kind of lights you have.

Main-to set positionmake straight on stand level like a "T" on the stand.
raise the stand 1 foot above the tallest subjects head. then tilt to about a 45 degree angle(the hot spot should be on his chest)

then your fill should be at eye level and the head should be straight.

back light should be at the subjects lower back hight and pointed at thebackground..

when all is like this-test shot and post.
and let me know what lights they are.
I will do all I can to help you figure this out.


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2/1/2006 8:44:06 PM

 
Pat Wimpee   Sandra, The Brixley family is definately in my prayers tonight.


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2/1/2006 9:10:51 PM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Pat,
Thanks


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2/1/2006 9:17:57 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  hey...those of you out there that make collages to sell...what size do you generally make them and how much are you charging?

The ones I am working on I am making 11x13,16x20, 20x10(don't know about framing that size), but I am clueless as to what to charge...need some help please!


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2/1/2006 9:18:53 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Yes Sandra,
I am sorry for the loss of your friends and yours as well.
I am sure we all will pray for thier peace and memories of the joy you all shared.
Debby


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2/1/2006 9:21:53 PM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
  Sandra, we will be praying for the brixley family here as well. Go bless all those who serve our country so that we may do what we do.

Chris
USAF 1986-1994


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2/1/2006 9:23:07 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Sandra,

I too am so sorry for such a tragic loss. May God be with all of you.


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2/1/2006 10:11:21 PM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Debby, Chris, Tonya,
Thanks the family needs lots of prayers.

Good nite and May God be with all of you.


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2/1/2006 10:35:40 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Tonya, I made my "Jacqueline" collaged with her name everywhere in 11 x 14 size. I knew it would be for us only and that I wouldn't want it larger than that. Not sure what I would do if someone were paying for it.

Sandra, I'm sorry for the loss of your friend. You and their families will be in my thoughts and prayers. I think of them daily as I have several cousins that have been there or still are and my nieces husband is heading there next month for his second time. (Chris, I too am former USAF 1985-1989 and then reserves)


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2/2/2006 5:33:23 AM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis   Sandra, I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend! Your family & theirs will be in our prayers!

collages, I usually do an 8X10, but it is at the customers request. I usually charge 14 dollars to make one & that is with only 5 pictures. I would love to know how to make those name things in photoshop, if anyone want to share to know how! I could sit here for 2 hours & so & figure it out maybe LOL!! I seen some sort of instuction on it somewhere in the how to's. But if anyone knows the steps feel free to email them to me!


Kristy


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2/2/2006 5:45:27 AM

 
Nicole E. Rappaport
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/4/2004
  Sandra, I will certainly keep the Brixley family in my prayers...

Erinn thanks for the advertising advice, I do not have a studio yet, but I can definitely see one in my future! :)


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2/2/2006 6:14:21 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Kisty,
I know all this is so furstrating- I struggle myself!
thats why I myself I am looking forward to a workshop!
So I have a DAY .a whole DAY where Liza is trapped haveing to answer my stupid questions!lol,lol.

Michelle Anderson-I hope all is well with you-we haven't heard from you for a while.
Chris is in your area and really wants a workshop. I asked him to email you.

and anyone else we were hopeing to get these to you before the Easter holiday. But unless we fill them -we have to cansel the date.- I need at least two weeks to set the flight arrangments.
So in trying to fill the Californis workshop- I am going to the collages here, so I hope to let you know soon Liza.

My colloages suck. and I hope to get this Mastered(ha) before the next Christmas holiday.

well I hope everyone has a GREAT start to this New day.

Sandra,
Gods gift is today! remember there is strength in time and healing in the joy of memories.


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2/2/2006 6:23:34 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Kristy, please be careful not to sell yourself short. I think others will agree with me that an 8x10 with computer work could sell for a lot more. I bet you could easily get $20-$35 for a collage, depending on how fancy it is and of course, the area in which you live.

I live in a really small town and was so afraid of charging too much. Then I realized that the work I do is different and nobody minded my prices. You can always start with a higher price and go lower as needed. If you start low then there is nowhere left to go. Also people start to expect your prices to be low and they'll always want that same low price.

I enjoy computer work and was just happy to practically give my work away in the beginning. But as time goes on and you want bigger and better equipment you start to realize that you need a bigger profit margin to get that equipment. Even if you enjoy computer work, you have to get paid for that time spent making their beautiful collage.

For those of you using the templates, whether they are ones you've purchased or designed yourself, don't skimp on price. I know that the work flow is easy once you already have a template and all you are doing is popping in your photos, but you bought or designed that template so that you could make a profit.

I want to see everyone succeed, don't sell yourselves short. For most photographers, you do this because you enjoy it, but remember, we all want bigger and better equipment at some point :)


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2/2/2006 6:37:22 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Kristy, you asked about the name collages. I have to run out for a bit, but I will be happy to fill you in on that as soon as I get back. Everyone does them a little bit different as we each add our own style. But I'll give you some basics and helpful hints to get you on your way.


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2/2/2006 6:40:57 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Liza...
I live in a small town too, and right now have matched my pricing to compete with some of the larger studios in surrounding towns...that is where everyone goes. I think that is a good place for me to start, however I don't know of anyplace that does collages, so I am singular in the market, but still have no clue about pricing, I was thiking in the $30-$60 dollar range, depending on size...what do you think? Do you mind offering what you charge?


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2/2/2006 7:15:25 AM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis   Hi Liza,
I charge 14.00 dollars just for making it. That dosent include the prints.I am in a small town also & you have to at least 30 miles to any other photography place. The collages are pretty simple, I thought that was a fair starting out price! I am just opening my business & hopeing that brings in customers. My LOW prices. When I learn to make the name collages I will charge more for them!! I may start working on one of tem after the kids go to bed tonight. I may get my daughter to take some pictures this afternoon to. So look forward to some pictures after while!!
TTYS
Kristy


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2/2/2006 7:30:31 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Good Morning Liza, Liza!
I hope you have a great day and the new studio space is coming along.


To anyone looking for lights:
PLEASE NOTE!! there is what looks to be a wonderful set of Studio Max lights starting at .99
These are the very old version of Studio Max and ARE NOT Like the Studio Max II or Studio Max III generations of lights.
These are good for small spot lights, extra light.
BUT THEY ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE with the other Photogenic assesories.

I just wanted to be clear so no one bought a product that they were expecting more from.

I hope this helps.

There are some WONDERFUL Photogenic light heads listed at this time, including mine - but single light heads-
no real kits(the one who does list studio max kits is more expensive then B&H and Sammy's)

but there are some wonderful lightheads listed for those who want to build a kit- I will help you find what you need -and you may get a better deal.
My 2500DR's cost around 900.00 each -got them on ebay for less then half.
i do hope this helps,
Debby


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2/2/2006 7:34:34 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  HI ALL! GADS! SO MUCH TO CATCH UP ON!!!

Sandra, SO SORRY to hear about your friends' tragic loss and your own! My thoughts and prayers are with you all!


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2/2/2006 7:35:20 AM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
  Good morning all. Didn't get to practice any studio stuff last night. Wife was sick, we had church and Dad was in charge of my four and two others last night. Plus I needed to take care of business and tax stuff. Yuck!

Debby I tried to locate Michelle Anderson on BP but am having no luck. By the way your collages do NOT suck. I will be stealing some of your ideas to use as my own.

Kristy I love the collage(name) idea and I am going to include some examples in my portfolio. I am not sure about pricing but I think I'll follow your lead and charge to make it and for the prints themselves. I currently don't know of anyone in my area doing it, and it it fairly easy to do.

Looking forward to a workshop in the Washington State area.

Chris


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2/2/2006 8:04:21 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Good Morning Chris and Laura,

Chris you are a sweetheart! and it was good talking to you last night.
I hope "your sweetheart" starts feeling better soon-that flu is a really hard one to get over"

Laura and I both had it over and over.
she sent it to me-I JUST KNOW SHE DID!lol,lol

Laura, when you get a second give me a call-k
I want to share something with you.


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2/2/2006 8:16:16 AM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
 
 
 
Here's a little cutie I did this morning. BOY was she TOUGH!! GRRRRR...
but I think a got a couople!


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2/2/2006 9:07:00 AM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
 
 
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Canon EOS 5D Digit...
 
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Canon EOS 5D Digit...
 
 
Here's a little cutie I did this morning. BOY was she TOUGH!! GRRRRR...
but I think a got a couople!


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2/2/2006 9:07:13 AM

 
Cari F. Minnamon   Hello Everyone!! I have been so busy and got left behind in Thread #14 somewhere. I'm glad I finally found everyone again. I work full time, go to school full time, and do photography whenever I have a spare second. I need some advice about model releases. I have my big political event shoot tommorrow. I talked with and looked at a bunch of information about model releases online and this is what I came up with when it comes to model releases for public political figures. Even though the people I will be taking pictures of are public political figures and it will be a public setting. Becuase the person that I am taking the pictures for wants to put it on his campaign website I will need model releases for anyone who will be posted to the website. My question is this, How in the world do I get people at a Gala to sign a model release form?? I am so stressed out!! I am really freaking out about this event, becuase I don't know how to do this tactfully. Please Help!!


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2/2/2006 9:10:15 AM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Maybe you could contact them afterwards, the next day or so? you could mail it to them? or e mail it?
ask the campaign 'manager"?


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2/2/2006 9:14:49 AM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
  Erinn. These are wonderful. She is definately a cutie. Woderful expressions.

I'll catch up with y'all later. Need to go to town.

Chris


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2/2/2006 9:25:41 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Kristy, Tonya and Chris, everyone will need to charge accordingly as far as how much work you've put into your collage. This sample is a 5' x 15" that I had printed at Mpix. I sold it for $60.00 The lady never blinked an eye at that. This one is one that I did just on spec hoping that she might fall in love with it and buy it, if not, I had a cool sample.

Photoshop time is valuable, not everyone knows how to do it, or has the time. Ever try to make lace in photoshop? Whew, that's a chore. But for me it was worth it because it was different than anything she can get for at least a hundred miles around in my area. This is a sample of the type of techniques I teach in workshops, to put photographers a step ahead of their competition.

Don't be afraid to charge for your hard work. Kristy, I'm glad to hear that you charge additionally for the print itself, I thought that was total. I read to fast sometimes and probably didn't catch that.

Gotta run, took a break from working on the studio for a grilled cheese sandwich and a quick peek at BP.


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2/2/2006 9:53:57 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Kristy, Tonya and Chris, everyone will need to charge accordingly as far as how much work you've put into your collage. This sample is a 5' x 15" that I had printed at Mpix. I sold it for $60.00 The lady never blinked an eye at that. This one is one that I did just on spec hoping that she might fall in love with it and buy it, if not, I had a cool sample.

Photoshop time is valuable, not everyone knows how to do it, or has the time. Ever try to make lace in photoshop? Whew, that's a chore. But for me it was worth it because it was different than anything she can get for at least a hundred miles around in my area. This is a sample of the type of techniques I teach in workshops, to put photographers a step ahead of their competition.

Don't be afraid to charge for your hard work. Kristy, I'm glad to hear that you charge additionally for the print itself, I thought that was total. I read to fast sometimes and probably didn't catch that.

Gotta run, took a break from working on the studio for a grilled cheese sandwich and a quick peek at BP.


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2/2/2006 9:53:59 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
 
 
  Chloe
Chloe
© Liza M. Franco
Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
 
Sorry, I live life in a hurry. Clicked submit twice and never even put the sample on.


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2/2/2006 9:55:43 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  the pictures look great Erin1!


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2/2/2006 12:28:59 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Thanks Chris and Tonya, my first time shooting with my new camera and lense!!


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2/2/2006 12:33:37 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Liza - your name collage looks GREAT! How DID you make that lace that took so long? It looks fantastic. :) The font is perfect, too.


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2/2/2006 12:46:39 PM

 
Pat Wimpee   Tonya, how did you get your music slide show on your website? Do you have betterphoto hosting you?


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2/2/2006 1:07:17 PM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Erinn, Erinn...... those pics of the little one are jusr adorable, the color and contrast are perfect, what did you have your camera/lights set at.. ooohhh, maybe I will dress sophie in something bright red.. darn, nthing bright red, might have to go buy something.....any excuse I know.. They are beautiful, the parents will be clap happy.. well done.. debbie


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2/2/2006 1:14:37 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  pat,
I only have my free gallery here at BP,
my website is hosted by yahoo, but the slide shows are done through the photodex software, you can either create a show and they will host it, or you can create a show for your own website...really neat I think!


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2/2/2006 1:59:48 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Not much time to read all this today.
But thanks Debby, I'll try that, and post pics up. It will take a bit longer then most on here, I'm film. :)
Erinne- Love those pics of the little girl in red. Beautiful pics!

Be back in a while


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2/2/2006 2:34:56 PM

 
Pat Wimpee   Thanks Tonya, I went out and bought the proshow gold software after seeing your slide show. But it says I need to use html to get it on a web site and I can't fiqure that one out yet!!


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2/2/2006 2:52:37 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
HI all!
Sorry I havent been on here, I had to go buy walmart out!! LOL!!

So Chris what di you think is a fair price to charge for thos name collages? I havent done one yet, but hopefully I can follow some of the techniques I got in the email! I am be asking questions though LOL!! well here are somemore pictures I did yesterday! Let me know what yall think!! I also did some of my daughter today! They are my laptop so I will have to burn them & the transfer them! So it might take me a little while!


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2/2/2006 5:55:38 PM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
  I won't do one for less than $50.00 because I believe that the time that is spent designing it is valuable. I probably won't make any that would be smaller than 8x10 or something like that 5x15 that Liza made. You don't have to get too outrageous on the price but you want to make you time valuable.

The one that I posted in thread #15 was my first attempt. I read how to do it in the thread and thought I'd try. I'll print it out as my sample.

You figure most folks won't bat an eye at an 8x10 portrait priced at $30.00 so why would they be up in arms about something that took your artistic ability to create and then charge $50.00 for. Not everybody can get around in PS so if you are one of the lucky ones that gain some knowledge of the program, use it to make money.

Those are some of my thoughts. You know if not for this thread I may not have ever thought of that idea. Thanks to all that are helping me learn here.

Got to go for now, elementary school concert.

Chris


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2/2/2006 6:19:22 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Kristy - those pictures are adorable!!

I too would like to know how to use Proshow slide shows on a webpage. I tried once, put the HTML in Frontpage, but couldn't get it to work. If anyone could explain it, that would be great!


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2/2/2006 7:53:14 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Chris, I totally agree with you.

Danielle, the lace was something I sat up doing in the middle of the night when I couldn't sleep. I get really creative when not fully awake :) I can't remember what font that was now, but if I find it again, I'll post. Glad you liked it.

Kristy, Olivia is just precious. Oh how I wish I could get Malena to cooperate like that. I catch her big brother whispering to her sometimes, asking are you tired of Mommy having a camera in your face yet? Stinker. Of course he makes sure I hear him. He's 20 so I guess he's had a lot of years to get sick of my picture taking. But she's only 3 1/2, she can't be over it all ready.


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2/2/2006 7:58:13 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Has anyone ever heard of Story book 3? You can download it for free from Microsoft.com. I did a few albums in no time at all with music added and it came out pretty good!


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2/2/2006 9:12:58 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis   Thanks Liza & Christine!
She is an adorable child!! I was lucky to have such a very good little model. I think she will be 3 in april. My daughter dose good, but she starts to get tired of it she has a fit & wont do what I ask her!!
Thanks again
Goodnight everyone!
Kristy


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2/2/2006 9:35:30 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Kristy-Are these pics with your new lights? You sure did get them fast! I love them! The color is great!!


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2/3/2006 4:47:59 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  about pro show gold...I went with it after messing with it in my nikon software that came with my camera, it made beautiful slide shows that automatically synced with the music. I found out though, that it's format was not compatible with all dvd players, and the ony ones I could get it to play on were my kids new portable ones. Even some computers would not play it off the dvd or cd. SOOO...I figured if I was going to be doing this for my customers I better know if it was going to work for them, so I went with the pro show. Have not had a problem since. The shows play anywhere I have tried them without a single hitch.
About putting them on your website...I spent the better part of the day learning this, but it is really rather easy. I don't know how your software works, I use yahoo's software, and their webtools, but this is what I do, maybe it will work or at least be a starting place for you....
first create the show, then click on the icon for make a web show. It will create the web format for you and then give you the html, copy and save that.
Save the show as something you can recgnize s the web show, I have been using xxxxxWeb Pay attention to your caps, you will have to type it exact later. Then I use my ftp server to upload it to my file manager. Once that is done, I create a file and name it xxxxxWeb.html and paste the html code from the software into my file. If you have an html editor in your program, it may put other html in there for your beginning help...erase all of that to where the only code is what you paste.
Then there are places you will have to replace with your webshow name...on my chrismas one, (christmas05Web) here is what the finished code looks like...

once that is done, you should be able to go to your page through your file mangager or by typing it in. mine above is named www.tonyacozart.com/christmas05Web.html
then link to it on your web page and you are good to go.

if you need any more help, holler, I will do what I can.
Also, there is a help file in photodex that lines out the steps, but it is a little confusing, if you read it and what I have explained here, you should be able to get it.

If not, you can upload the show to their website and have a link on your website directing ppl there...


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2/3/2006 7:13:31 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  uh oh it did not let me post the html....duh....let me see if I can edit it to post....
ok there will be a java script line...
then an src line with the web info ending in script...
then this is where you will edit with your web show name...
PhotodexObject("ProShow","christmas05Web","christmas05Web.px",640,480);
PresenterControls("christmas05Web",640);

then it will close with a script command.
gosh...hope this makes sense...cause this was the hardest part for me, gettint the names right, cause if they are off at all, it will not play,.


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2/3/2006 7:19:06 AM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Got a question for all of you...

I took photos for a large family group (www.photosbybrenda.com/kline). I gave the person who hired me a set of 3x5 prints as proofs (22 in all).

I just spoke to her today in an attempt to finalize the order since they were taken in December. :) She said that several people have inquired about purchase a complete set of proofs rather than prints. So they can have one of each. She said they were asking about getting them in 4x6 size.

According to my pricing, a 4x6 print is $5.00. This would be a charge of $110 for the set of 22. Am I nuts to think that I shouldn't have to give them a "proof" price of some sort?

My thought is that they are basically ordering a set of 4x6 prints therefore charge the regular price. By the way, this was my first huge group and if any of you recall from previous posts, this is the family that had the 12yr old killed the day after I took the photos. And I provided them with a free 8x10 for the viewing. Since then another member passed away very unexpectedly and I gave them quite a discount on an 8x10 for that funeral.

So, I'm just trying to decide if I should stick to my pricing on the 4x6 prints or print them as 3x5s and figure up a price for them that way?

Any thoughts?


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2/3/2006 7:50:49 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Brenda,
sometimes it's a go with your gutt, kind of a thing.
I prsonally would take into consideration if they live near you, will their refferances do you any good and do you want them to come back.
This is unusual, and the reason they of couse want those sizes is to afford them all and to own such a special event to them.
I personally would come up with a specil price that would include the whole set.
If I took all the approvals I was supposed to take then I would have a wonderful slide show to put together.
I would then do that an dcome up with a resonable amount that they may all be able to afford.
* here's my thought: you have a chance to help a family, and be that shinning moment in such a tradgic tale.
People in these times don't want to talk about the bad stuff-so if you supply them a GOOD thing , they would rather talk about that!
You may be very rewarded with your good heart-with business and at the least a great warm feeling.
just my thoughts,
Debby


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2/3/2006 8:13:45 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Hi Brenda, I don't usually sell proofs because my experience has been that they buy proofs so that they can scan and print them or try taking them to Wal-Mart to do it. So personally I steer clear of them.

Now, for your predicament, the person who hired you should pay a "proof" price. Anyone ordering after that I would think should pay an actual "print" price. That way even if they do try to copy them, you will still get paid well as you should.

I am one of the biggest sappy people and am very sensitive. So it is easy for me to say this because I am not the one actually dealing with this group. Please don't sell yourself short at this point. I know you feel badly for them for their loss, but you have already discounted the 8x10 to help them out and provided a free one too. You have done something nice for them and I'm sure they appreciate it. But you still are running a business and have a family to provide for too. I know you are very thoughtful, and I too would have done exactly what you did. At some point though the business aspect of it needs to kick back in. This is one of the hardest things, separating business from human kindness.

I hope that all came out sounding right and that I understood your question correctly too. It is so hard to interpret over the internet sometimes. I don't want to come off sounding heartless because I promise I'm at the opposite extreme.


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2/3/2006 8:23:54 AM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Thank you Debby, LIza & Michelle for your input. I have been sitting here trying to decide what to do and this is what feels right in my heart.

I am going to call her and tell her that while I can't provide additional proof sets, I will offer a 15% group discount on what the family orders. This way, I still feel like I'm getting paid for my services, and I feel like I'm being considerate.

At the same time, the one who hired me owns a roofing business with her husband, so who knows what sort of referrals may come from it.

I've made my decision (good or bad) and have just emailed two family members who emailed me their orders direct. I just simply told them that I had revised their prices to reflect a group discount of 15%. Oh... and I will resize all of them to 4x6 before ordering them through MPIx. Hopefully this will prevent some cheating!

Done. Will sleep well tonight. :) Thank you all! I know I came to my conclusion quickly, but laundry & Aaron are calling and I've already spent too much time on this account. hahahaha

At one time she did ask about a cd of the candid shots. She hasn't mentioned it to me again. I may tell her when I call to inform her of this that I will still do a cd for her at $25.00 per cd? Sound fair? I think there were about 40 prints. But since they were of everying eating & stuff, I'm not retouching anything. Just simply resize to 4x6 & burn to cd.

Thanks again! I have got to get laundry going. Darn!


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2/3/2006 8:31:26 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Maybe Debby has the better idea here. I just tend to be to soft about things usually and end up getting taken advantage of. So since it isn't me in the situation this time, I can see things from a business perspective instead of with my heart.

Debby is right though, go with your gut instinct, it is usually right.


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2/3/2006 8:32:03 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Brenda,
I think you came up with a great conclusion here.
as far as the CD - I was thinking 35.00 to even 50.00 is a fair and resonable price.
so, 25.00 is VERY generous.


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2/3/2006 8:36:12 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  oops, my response came in after your decision. I like your conclusion too.


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2/3/2006 8:42:23 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Debby, I was thinking about you last night at the Photography Club meeting. The guest speaker was a forensic photographer. I was thinking about our CSI watching addiction.


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2/3/2006 8:54:43 AM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Debby, I like your price range better for the cds. I haven't actually counted how many candids I had, but was just now thinking that $1 per image since they are just candids and then depending on the total, round up or down to have it make sense.

I don't know yet.... I guess I'll wait until I can get them counted to see.

Thanks again for your input. You are always a big help, as is everyone else here.


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2/3/2006 9:04:41 AM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  OH, I also sent a note to my daughters flag/rifle coach for indoor guard. I offered to do them a packge for $25.00 includes one 8x10; two 5x7s, four 3x5s & eight wallets. :) Not sure if she'll have me do them, but I offered. And I threw on a few ala carte items, like the buttons, the calendars, extra prints, etc.

There are only six kids on the team since this is the first time in 15 years they have had an indoor guard team. So it will be an easy job if they want them done.


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2/3/2006 9:07:32 AM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  sorry, me again. :) I just read Liza's comment again... hahaha you make me laugh. I only know you through BP and I already know you are sooooooo far from being heartless!

I totally understand what you mean though. I was going both ways... be business & stick to my pricing... then be considerate & offer a break... that's why I went middle of the road and with what I knew I could sleep well with.

hahahaha.... heartless..... hahahahaha you're funny!

:)

Thanks again!


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2/3/2006 9:10:39 AM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Okay this is kind of off topic but...

I've been unable to find 3.5x5 frames lately. Whats up with that? The portrait studio I work at still prints at that size and I think a lot of other places do too (do you guys?) but the frames are nowhere to be found.

Just an observation. :)


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2/3/2006 9:27:58 AM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Danielle,
Hey I buy 3.5x5 frames at walgreens, dollar tree,& only a buck. If ya'll have these stores check them out.


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2/3/2006 9:37:13 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  GOOD MORNING EVERYONE!

DANIELLE, HONEY YOU ARE STILL ON MY LIST-JUST SOME THINGS HAVE COME UP LATELY.I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THE PICTURE THING YOU WANT ME TO DO?

ANYONE INTRESTED IN HOSTING OR GOING TO WORKSHOPS.
I HAVE JOINED A INTERNET PROGRAME THAT WILL ADVERTISE THE WORKSHOPS IN THE GOOGLE SEARCH AREA OF THE INTERNET.
SO, AS YOU COME UP WITH A DAY AND A CITY-I WILL MOVE THAT GOOGLE SEARCH TO THAT CITY FOR A MONTH OR SO.
THIS SHOULD HELP TO FILL THESE WORKSHOPS.
THE FIRST ONE STARTS IN DALLAS IN 3-5 DAYS, FOR THE HOUSTON WORKSHOP.
I DID THIS FOR MY BUSINESS AS WELL HERE IN THE SAN DIEGO TARGET MARKET.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE INFO ON THIS PROGRAME JUST EMAIL ME NAME AND PHONE NUMBER AND WEB SITE ADDRESS.
AT 75.00 A MONTH( THE FIRST MONTH WAS FREE) THIS SHOULD HELP.
I WILL OF COUSE HAVE MORE INFO IN ONE MONTHS TIME.
HAVE A GREAT DAY!


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2/3/2006 9:50:29 AM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Thanks Sandra. Actually somebody else just told me the same thing about Dollar Tree so I'll have to check them out.

Debby, if you don't know how to do that then it would probably be best if you either emailed me the photos or, if there are a ton, put them on CD and mailed them to me. Whichever way you prefer.


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2/3/2006 10:00:23 AM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Hey Debby,
I e-mailed you. Let me know if you don't get it.


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2/3/2006 10:57:48 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Brenda, I forgot about the email you sent. Is it this weekend you're doing the photos? I'll email you my phone number and you can let me know. This evening would be the best time to call. Still working on the studio, cursing all the holes that I have to spackle. Gotta take Lena to her first Ballet class at the Y, she is so excited. She's been practicing in front of the tv while watching the Barbie Nutcracker movie. She needs some independence so I need to wait outside, but I want to take pictures so badly. She usually goes to bed about 8:30 East Coast time and then it will be quiet enough for me to talk on the phone.

Thank you for your nice compliment.


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2/3/2006 11:43:58 AM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Thanks Liza, actually their coach wants to wait until next week or the week after so there is no big rush. Tonight & this weekend is bad for me due to her competition & getting ready. Maybe we can catch up with each other next week? Email me your phone number and a couple of time frames that may work for you and we'll go from there. :) Thanks!


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2/3/2006 11:58:20 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Sandra,
fridays and tuesdays are gregs days to come home for lunch, so I am just getting to my emails.
I tried to email you a note but it was returned-said yor mail box didn't like my mail :-)
stupid things.
anyway gotta run just got 2 big boxes from Photogenic for our workshops-ooohhh,wonder what they sent,lol!!!


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2/3/2006 2:08:02 PM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Hey Debby,
I did get your e-mail.
Thanks


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2/3/2006 3:58:04 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Hello all!

I have a newborn shoot on Monday evening and another maternity shoot scheduled for Thursday. These are for my portfolio so I'm not charging. How many shoots did you guys do before you started charging? Was it just until you were comfortable with the type of shoot?


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2/3/2006 7:21:07 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  Christine - it may be a bit odd that I'm answering this question because I'm still an extreme amateur who doesn't really make any money but I have an answer nonetheless.

If they ask me to do the photos, I charge. If I ask them if they'll let me take their picture (no matter how much they enjoy or need their picture taken) I don't. :) I do charge less for people I know, but I let them know that I'm charging less so they don't go blabbing my prices around incorrectly.


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2/3/2006 7:47:51 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Debby or anyone who can answer this for me, What is a good wattage of light to have behind a softbox for your main light??


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2/3/2006 7:50:41 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
 
 
 
Christine- I kind of do the same thing about charging people. If it is something that I haven't done at least a couple of sessions of I may not charge just to have more experience. But they still pay full price for pics when they order.

Can some one help with photo shop? I have collage that I am practiceing with and I want to put a thin white line around each picture and not sure how.


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2/3/2006 7:54:42 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Thanks! I figured I'd do about two of each different type of shoots for free. What i've been doing is giving them a slideshow CD and if they want to order any pics, then they pay what I would normally charge for prints.

Ahhhh..Photoshop...I just learnt this trick from someone else here on BP (sorry, can't remember who!). When you have your picture open, you go to image, canvas size, I usually put in .2 pixels for both width and height, make sure the canvas is white (this is all in the canvas size box - I'm doing this from memory so I'm sorry if it doesn't make much sense). That's it, it will leave a white border around your picture.
I think maybe it was Tonya that described this much better than I just did!


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2/3/2006 8:35:34 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
Hi all!
Thanks for all the wonderful complimnets on Olivias pictures! I was really proud of them! LOL!! Since that was the first time I used my alien bees.

Well I did some of my daughter today!! I thought they were really good, but I took deby's advise & switched my main & my fill light. I like the lighting results from Olivias better than Mackenzie's! Let me know what you guys think! I will try to respond in the morning! Thanks so much for all the information!
Kristy


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2/3/2006 10:09:37 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
Would help to sign in!! LOL!!


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2/3/2006 10:10:39 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis   Sorry Melissia! I must have missed your comment! LOL!! Yes those are with the new lights! I got them in about a day or so & I choose the cheapest shipping. LOL!! They are based in nashville TN & I live about 2 hours from there so that is why I figured I got them so soon. I do love the results of them!!
Kristy


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2/3/2006 10:33:38 PM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  Okay, here goes. I pulled out my Briteks for the first time since early December. Still, not working properly (it's so hard to know, because I've never had these before, I don't know how they are supposed to work for sure). My settings are all right (200/f/22iSO200), my sync cord is attached, my flash is on. I don't know what I am doing wrong, but my lights are not going off every time (actually, more often not going than going). My lens will only focus one time when I have the sync cord attached, then it's like my camera can't even tell itself to focus or do its job. I just don't know if these lights are the problem or their owner :(. I have a portfolio building shoot tomorrow for maternity and a 1 year old. I am really hoping these work before then. Any help? Again.
Cyndee ><>


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2/3/2006 11:09:14 PM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  Okay, disregard last post...I think I figured it out...finally!
Cyndee ><>


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2/4/2006 1:00:40 AM

 
Rebecca A. Steed
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/6/2005
 
 
 
Okay, this isn't studio photography, but I need an opinion of which you think is best to run in the contest. I loved this family! Thanks guys


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2/4/2006 1:12:19 AM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Cyndee- Okay, you have to tell me if you figured it out. I get the same problem. It won't focus after I take a shot. And also my strobe will work some of the time but not all of the time. What did you find out???
Good luck with the shoot!


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2/4/2006 10:41:16 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Hello guys, I finally got my Alien Bees back B1600, I am learning to set up the lights by reading what everyone is posting here. Can you please review these shots and let me know what you think? Also which photos look best?

Thanks
Suzy


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2/4/2006 3:45:33 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Forgot to attach the photos. Silly me!


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2/4/2006 3:55:37 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Suzy- The pictures are beautiful!! I think my favorites are the cropped Bear Hug and the angel without the tint. I think it just gives her a great pink color in her skin. Nice job!


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2/4/2006 5:46:30 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Hi, I was in Boston looking at colleges for a couple days... SOmeone asked how to put thin border around photos in PS.
Open your photo>in the layers pallet double click on the background layer and it creates a new layer>say ok
then go down to the little F in thecircle. at bottom and click> Stroke>that will open the layer style box?choose your color> then choose your size> choose Inside> then ok. Voila! flatten image and your done! For the little girl in red... I have two excaliber strobes with white umbrellas one at 7 one at 4, camera at 6 and my 580 speedlingt on slave as backlight at about 2. Glad you liked them!


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2/4/2006 6:55:14 PM

 
Brenda  D. 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/27/2005
  Hello everyone, its me again lurking around . in need of suggestions please , although this is a looooong way off I have been ask to do a shoot at a 20th year high school reunion, the coordeniater ask for a group shot ( no problem) but also a couples shot, I really dont want them to end up looking like "prom" pictures , does anyone have any ideas ?


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2/4/2006 7:27:59 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
 
 
 
Did our thread stop and I not know about it? I guess everyone is busy busy. Here is a pic from yesterday. The little baby hated being naked! So pretty much of everything I had planned was out of the question.


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2/5/2006 1:50:37 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
 
 
  The Moment...
The Moment...
© Melissa Farnsworth
Canon EOS Digital ...
 
 
:)


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2/5/2006 1:51:15 PM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Nice capture Melissa! I bet the others turned out well too. And I'm sure mom & dad loved them!


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2/5/2006 2:24:35 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Thanks Brenda. I had been having such a hard time with my lights, but I finally bought a sync cord and a hot shoe adaptor and used that instead of using my flash to fire off the lights and it worked wonders! So I was really excited. I wish I would have been able to get more of the poses that the mom wanted but he just didn't want any of it. They are friends of the family so I am sure we will try again.


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2/5/2006 2:39:24 PM

 
Bryan J. Sorenson   HI EVERYONE
you are all to much to keep track of. Since I've gotten some good tips from these gazzillion posts, I will chime in and muddy the waters even more.

I have a set of 4 britek strobes that I've had for 5 years. Since each one has its own photoreceptor, it "sees" when another strobe goes off and instantly fires. It will see infared light. I cover my onboard flash with a piece of processed, unexposed slide film. This lets the infared light pass and triggers the slaves. I set my Nikon D70 to manual 1/500 sec usually f11 to 22. Set the flash to "manaul" "1/4 power" and shoot away.

I used to use reflective umbrellas, but recently discovered that since my ceiling is whit ant only 8' high, I aim the main light at 45 degrees to the ceiling and bounce off of it for some awesome light. I'v bounced off ceilings for years with my hot shoe mounted flash.

Some of you are having issues with printing. Don't laugh, I get mine at Costco one hour! They are printed on Fuji archival papers with the lastest Fuji and other printers. You can download the profiles for the exact printer and paper at the store closest to you. Each machine/paper combo gets reprofiled frequently. If you calibrate your monitor and use the printer profiles, you can get your prints exactly the way you want them. You can then upload them over the web and usually pick them up in a couple of hours or have them mailed to you. There"s a place to change the backprinting so it has your name on it instead of "Costco"


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2/5/2006 3:28:11 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Melissa,
No we're still here,
but I have got to get back to my Seahawks!

Bryan, welcome,costco works very well


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2/5/2006 4:49:29 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  I am so not into football so I am bored!


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2/5/2006 4:51:38 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  oh my Gosh,
Melissa,
I for got to tell you(witch is why I chimed in,lol) the shot is really wonderful!!!!


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2/5/2006 5:01:02 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Thanks so much debby. I finally took your advise about getting the sync cord and not using my flash on my camera. And I was singing your praises yesterday!!!


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2/5/2006 5:02:52 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Deb, I am loving my lights! Thank you all for the information on studio lighting.


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2/5/2006 5:30:26 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Spanish Torero


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2/5/2006 5:37:14 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  I am in heaven!
Seahawks,popcorn,a ultra,and a laptop!!
lol,lol
Ok Suzy,
I have to know what did you get -i either forgot or missed it.
do please tell!


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2/5/2006 6:10:14 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Upgraded my Alien Bees, a soft box, a light meter, so many toys so little time to play with them. I am short models though, even my animals are tired of possing for me.

Suzy


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2/5/2006 6:14:30 PM

 
Pat Wimpee  
 
 
I did it!! I figured out how to do borders! I spent the whole super bowl game making a total of 30 different borders!


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2/5/2006 8:31:35 PM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  Pat,
Yes you did it, and you did a GREAT JOB. I love your border...


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2/5/2006 9:07:54 PM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
 
 
 
Hey guys! I could use your help with something. I recently got my pictures printed and because I've been playing around with photoshop and image editing a lot lately... I did a lot of before and after prints. Just so I could see the differences on paper. Most of them were good... except this one.

In the fixed version of this photo I fixed up some wrinkles and facial blemishes and such... and I must have done some color correction too. What I don't remember is if I did it by hand or did edit>adjustments>auto color. But either way, the edited version of the photo looked great. But when I printed the original, it looked TERRIBLE. My mum looks really gray and sickly in it. Granted that's not a problem because it's the original but my worry is that even when I look at it on the computer I can't tell that the color is wrong. I would hate to have a big important client (instead of me just playing around with my backdrop) and have this happen. Does anybody know a way I can tell for sure if the color is off?

It's important to note that when I do try to color correct the photo... it only makes it look more gray. Also, the color profile is sRGB whereas in the other it's just RGB. I'm not sure if that matters or not.

Thanks!!


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2/6/2006 4:01:51 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Danielle, I can see the difference between the two photos. The one underneath, the whites look brighter. There are different ways to deal with color cast, I am going to look for information and send them to you. One cool & easy way is to go to Image>Adjustment>Selective color and work with the Color:Whites and play with the black sliding bar underneath. To enhance colors, do the same but using the Color: Gray and play with the bars there.

Pat, your border came out great. So many different creations you can play with specially now for valentines. I like the photo too! Are those your children?

I love it, the husbands are watching superbowl while we are playing with our cameras.

Have a nice day,
Suzy


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2/6/2006 4:26:35 AM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  Pat, the borders look great. I wish I knew how to make them! You'll have to share so I can do some too!

Danielle the second photo definately looks more natural. I always use the auto correct even if I think I Have it right. If I don't like the way it looks, I just "undo" the auto correction.

SOrry about the Seahwaks Debby! I thought they were going to do it. Those missed td's in the first half were bad and I don't know what happened to them at the end of the half. That was weird! And I don't think that Pitts QB actually scored that TD. I don't think it crossed into the end zone. I think that's why the ref had to go with the field call, he couldn't tell either.

And on the superbowl.... this was the saddest year for commercials ever! I watched it hoping to see something good... they all stunk. :(


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2/6/2006 4:59:16 AM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  wait, didn't you see the one on the airplane? I think it was a mortgage company. that one was funny!! and The disney one was ok, but the rest stunk!!Pat, so how did you make the border? I've been trying to make sloppy edge borders... can't figure it out.
Erinn


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2/6/2006 5:04:18 AM

 
Brenda M. Wolfensberger
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/29/2004
  I know Ameriquest had a bunch, but I'm drawing a blank on the airplane? I did like the one beer ad where the guy made the "revoloving" wall with the fridge & table and the guys on the other side were all excited! That was okay. But yeah, the rest weren't great. hahahahaha I just know remembered the airplane! Yes, that was a good one.

I've not been able to figure out borders at all so I'm anxious to hear this too Pat! :)


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2/6/2006 5:49:49 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Good Morning Everyone,
It's ok about the Seahawks, it was a good game! unusual at that.
and my last year as a Seahawk fan, next year I move to the Browns!
I support witch ever team
Trent Dilfer is on, the brother of a family friend but more importantly one of the founders of "Fellowship of Christen Atheletes" a group of Professional sports Men with
"One way to play.." and they give of them selves so that younger kids might get a chance to experiance camps and other sports related events.
Ok back to this BORING Commercial thing- I did like the Bud one with the
Clyesdale foal trying to pull the Bud Wagon, and the big guys were pushin' behind.Sooo Cute!
BUt I don't remember the Airplane one either:-(
But I was cooking as well.
BBQ chicken, Nachos,Pizza, and Tacos.
I ran most of the day.
but at game time it was "there it is -leave me alone. and I AM the only one who was in front of the GAME the WHOLE way through.Me against 3 want ta be (Steelers)football fans: HA! Boys!?
they didn't even watch the thing, but they Ha,haed me-can any of you tell me what that is about,hahaha.
BOYS!


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2/6/2006 8:14:13 AM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
 
 
 
I'm babysitting my granddaughter! so here's a quick photo I took of her today!
Erinn


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2/6/2006 8:18:26 AM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
 
 
 
I'm babysitting my granddaughter! so here's a quick photo I took of her today!
Erinn


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2/6/2006 8:18:40 AM

 
Danielle E. Rutter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/4/2006
  I watched the football game! But of course even if I didn't want to I would have been forced to. Football is a religion here in Pittsburgh. Plus it was our team that was in it. Go Steelers! I agree that our first touchdown was questionable but the reason they took it (I think) is because what matters is that the ball DID cross the line... it was just in the air when it happened. When he touched the ground, it was back on the other side again because he tucked it back to hold on.

The airplane commercial... that one was really funny. It was ameriquest and they're on a plane and the woman in the window seat needs to get up but the two men next to her are sleeping. So she starts to get up and crawl over them (and for anybody who has been on a plane in the window seat we all know what that's like). But then the plane hits some turbulence and all the lights come on and she falls on the lap of one of the guys so she's straddling him and everybody is looking at them. And the message is "don't judge too quickly, we won't." Hee hee.

Anyway... thanks for your help on the gray. I have learned how to fix it I just worry that I can't trust my own eyes. I always do try auto color but it often doesn't look right to me and I don't know if it is and I'm a bad judge or I'm right. But I suppose I'll get better.

Anybody got any quick fixes on how to get rid of snow spots in photos? Last night after we won I went outside and took pictures of my family with firecrackers and such but it was snowing so some of them don't look very nice. Thanks!!

This was a long one.


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2/6/2006 8:29:45 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  VERY CUTE!!!


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2/6/2006 8:30:02 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Erinn, Your granddaughter is adorable...cute pic!

I did not do the superbowl,,,we don't like football here, and I like it that way.
just had an otherwise lazy day...finding something to watch other than the superbowl is no easy task! hehe

Not much here....I am just getting my goove on for the happy dance, my lights are due here wed!


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2/6/2006 9:32:27 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Pat, great job on the border. Its addictive isn't it? You start on one and just keep going because the ideas keep popping in to your mind. Congratulations.

Erinn, what a beautiful granddaughter you have. Her eyes are so bright and beautiful.

Danielle, I hardly ever like the way the Auto Levels works for me on Photoshop. I do that one manually. I usually have good luck with Auto Contrast. Auto Color always seems to have to much Cyan on mine. Monitor calibration and where their being printed also make a difference, so I think everyone just has to work with it and find what gives them the best output.

Do some test photos, one with the auto setting/settings and one without and have them printed from your lab of choice. I had to do this because I felt like you, and wondered if it was just my eyes and my personal preference for color. If you use different labs, do this process with each of them and write on the back of your prints so you'll know what to choose for each lab.

Debby T. what time will you be free to talk tonight? We've got catching up to do.


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2/6/2006 9:34:12 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Hey Liza,
Good Morning!!
Anytime before 9:00 today or tommorrow.
with 10 lbs of taco meat made-LEFT OVERS!!lol,lol
so no worries about dinner time really.
I do hope to hear from ya!


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2/6/2006 9:42:41 AM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Thanks guys, she's going home now, so i'll post one or two more later! she is SUCH a good baby. she never cries!!
she let me photograph her, took a nap, woke up, ate, and let me take more photos of her!! lol oh and inbetween she sat on my lap and helped me edit pictures!!
Erinn


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2/6/2006 11:01:19 AM

 
Kristin Franke
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  Hello! I'm really hoping someone around here can help me! I just got my Alien Bees B800 (320 ws) light today (I could only afford one right now). I also have a 430ex Speedlite and some reflectors. So, I set it up and was playing around and the only way I can get the exposure right is if I use f/1.8 with a 15 second shutter speed (on manual mode), with the strobe at full power and my speedlight on camera to "fill" and trip the strobe (since I still have to get a hot shoe adapter). I can't imagine that anyone woud buy stdio lights if you could only use them at 1.8 w/a 15 second shutter speed! Thats basically the same settings it takes to expose right with only window light. WHAT am I doing wrong? This is the first time I've ever touched a studio light. BTW the strobe is fitted w/an umbrella. Any help would be SO appreciated!!! Thanks!!!


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2/6/2006 2:34:36 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  HI KRISTIN! Sounds like you're having the same problem a few others on here have been having (and that I had when I first got my lights!!) The camera isn't triggering the strobe properly, if at all.

The camera will trigger your 430ex with infrared, but the studio lights will not trigger, at least consistently in sync with your shutter, via the infra-red. You will need to plug in. Do you have a sync cord and a PC sync attachment for your camera to plug into your main (B800, I assume)?


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2/6/2006 2:41:53 PM

 
Pat Wimpee   Sorry everyone, I'm at work all day and just looked at this thread during lunch. Let's see if I can do this from memory. I took a bunch of different pictures of fabric first. Then open one up in photoshop cs. Crop to the size you want. Use the rectangle tool and draw out your square. go to quick edit mask. go to filter. select brush. I used sprayed strokes and moved the radius and length to the right all the way. Then go back out and exit quick mask mode. Then I inverted the selection and erased the middle. ( I'm sure there's an easier way than that but I'm still learning.) That gives you that feathered edge. Undo the inverse. Then I use a filter on the frame part. This one I think I posterized and added some grain to . Save as a tiff file and you just have to drop in your photo. You can resize if you need to. After the first ten or so it becomes alot easier. There's so many different effects you can do . I did a motion blur on some that turns out real cool. Hope that helps. When I get home tonight, I'll let you know if I left a vital step out:)


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2/6/2006 2:54:54 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
HI all!
Sorry it has been so long since my last post! I have been working on the name in picture collages, I have done 3 & want to do a million more LOL!! Well here are the 3 starting with the first on I did first! Any comments are welcome! GOOD OR BAD!!


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2/6/2006 3:20:22 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  first of all, the pictures on here are beautiful!!

Okay, I'm really going to lose my mind! Can someone just come over and set my lights up and test everything for me and then I'll take pictures?? LOL I'm still having difficulty with my strobe not going off. Does anyone have any suggestions on why this happens?


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2/6/2006 3:30:43 PM

 
Melissa Farnsworth
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/5/2005
  Dawn-does your camera have a sync cord attached to your main light?
That was my problem when my lights weren't fireing off. I then got a hot shoe adaptor and a sync cord and used that instead of my on camera flash and then the lights worked great.


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2/6/2006 3:53:01 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Dawn,
If you didn't live so FAR away, i'd come set them up for you!!! ok, explain to me again... i'll try to help. you can e mail me.
Erinn


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2/6/2006 5:01:01 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
 
 
 
I was playing yesterday and today... Just wanted to share.


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2/6/2006 5:53:09 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  I have my strobe in a small softbox, connected to my camera (film) with a hotshoe adapter and sync cord.
I'll have my main light on the other side with a large softbox. My strobe goes off some times, but not all the time and yesterday we did tests and it didn't go off at all.
My strobe has a red button on it to fire, and that works, and sometimes when I pull the cord out of the strobe, it goes off. Could it be a short or does that happen sometimes.
I got the strobe off ebay from "dreammaker".


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2/6/2006 6:40:55 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Sounds good so far, Dawn. Hmmm.. Here goes the brainstorm...

The lights will flash when you plug or unplug sometimes. That's normal.

I don't know what kind you have. Mine are Britek's. They all have a slave switch that I turn on. I believe that's how the other lights are triggered by the main.

But you're saying that your Main doesn't fire with the shutter consistently?

Are you shooting in Manual mode (or Auto, Shutter, Aperture?)

Is the hotshoe adapter secure and locked on? Does your speedlight fire consistently when you attach it to your hotshoe? It could be the hotshoe, itself, too. You may need to clean the contacts or a new one altogether. If that's all ok, could it be a bad fuse on the strobe itself? The last thing I'd try is contacting the seller or manufacturer for more info. They may be able to walk you through steps specific to your particular light.


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2/6/2006 7:07:54 PM

 
Pat Wimpee   Oh Laura- That's way too cute!!
Kristy- # 3's my favorite too.


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2/6/2006 7:08:43 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Kristi...I love the collages, you are doing great...aren't they fun! I like #3 the best as well, I also liked the way you spaced out the letters, I have one that looks too cramped, may try that!

Laura....WAY TOO CUTE VALENTINE! Very creative!



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2/6/2006 7:17:41 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Dawn, that must be soooo frustrating for you. Do you have a manufacturer for the lights? what about the adapter? I think that is what your problem is.. I used to have one that I used with my strobes.. and it worked for a short time. and then it wouldn't always fire. It did have something to do with the contact. THe little thingie seemed to not always be making contact. can't you just attach your sync cord directly to the camera? or does your camera not have a port for that? i'm guessing it doesn't that's why the need for the adapter.
call the manufacture of the adapter first since that's where I think your problem lies.
Laura, Very cute collage!!!


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2/6/2006 7:39:01 PM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
 
 
 
Hey everyone, sorry I have lurking, life has got really hectic lately..

Laura, love the valentine, your baby is getting so big!
Love the name collages too.. forgot who did those..
Erinn, your grandaughter is beautiful..

So I am now in a position to start charging people or at leats thats what all my friend think and have given my name to a few people, now I am a basket case and feel totally nervous at producing perfection.. arghhh, I hope when the time come it will al go well for me..

Here are a few pics of my friend that I took, only two months to go... Any suggestons/comments much appreciated.

Thanks


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2/6/2006 8:13:33 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis   Hi debbie! Very nice capture! I love the one of them almost laughing together!! Looking at those it make me regret not having the prego pics made!! LOL!! Great lighting & all with those!!
Kristy


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2/6/2006 8:30:11 PM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Thanks Kristy, That laughing pic is my fave too, we were being totally goofy and I just got it.. she's s good friend of mine so it feels easy but still bribing my other pregnant friend into pics.. I miss being pregnant everytime I do these types of pics, but geez, gettin my hubby in front of the camera would be a pain in the back.. thanks for the compliments, debbie


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2/6/2006 8:33:15 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
Oh yeah guys!
Do you guys think I should link my Alien bees to my camera or just let it ride! Just wondered as a percaution!!

I did this picture of my daughter saturday! Let me know what ya think!!
Kristy


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2/6/2006 8:34:11 PM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  She looks adorable Kristy, how old is she? my little one loves to dress like a princess..


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2/6/2006 8:38:13 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis   thanks debbie! she was 2 in Aug. she is my little doll!! It is a a pin to get her to sit stillturough pictures, though!
lol
congrats on the wonderful pics!!
thanks to everyone that compliment on the collages & yes they are so much fun!!
kristy


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2/6/2006 8:52:26 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
 
 
  Mommy and baby
Mommy and baby
© Christine Herr
Nikon D50 Digital ...
 
  Daddy and baby
Daddy and baby
© Christine Herr
Nikon D50 Digital ...
 
  Baby Taylor
Baby Taylor
© Christine Herr
Nikon D50 Digital ...
 
 
Hi there! Love all the pics and the collages! I have to learn how to do those!

I had my first newborn shoot this evening. the first 20 minutes went well and then the little one wouldn't settle so the parents are going to rebook so that we can finish the shoot. Anyway, here are a few of the pics...I put a bit of a blur on the one of just the baby, I know I need to fix that one. :-)


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2/6/2006 9:09:40 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  For those looking for a light system, I found this kit today seems like everything is all there.
I don't know a thing about these Bowens lights(Michelle Andersen might)
but go to theBoenes web site and do some research before yo buy:
it's at $21.00 for the3 light kit now w/4 days to go.

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-Bowens-Mono-9000-Monlite-Studio-Strobe-Flashes-Xtras_W0QQitemZ7587952235QQcategoryZ30087QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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2/7/2006 6:46:29 AM

 
Bryan J. Sorenson   Hi Kristin,
you have to turn your speedlight to manual. I'm only familiar with nikon so I don't know what you must do, you'll have to check the manual. heres a description of what your camera and speedlight are trying to do
1)you depress shutter release button
2)speedlight fires a test flash
3)camera and speedlight measure amount of light coming thru lens
4)camera and speedlight hold a conference and decide how much light to add (fill)
5)shutter opens
6)speedlight fires
7)shutter closes

Now heres what happens when you sneak in a studio strobe that the camera/speedlight brain don't know about
1)you depress shutter release button
2)speedlight fires a test flash, Strobe sees test fash and immediatly fires full power blast of light
3)camera and speedlight measure amount of light coming thru lens, and are blinded by amount of light shining in thier "eyes"
4)camera and speedlight hold a conference and decide you are insane to try and use fill flash with this much ambient light. But they decide that since they love you anyway they will try and save your picture.
5)shutter opens
6)speedlight does'nt fire any light at all because it thinks your already overexposed. Strobe hasn't had time to recharge and can't fire even if speedlight does decide to add a little light to the mix.
7)shutter closes

Your main strobe goes off before you shutter even opens, the speedlight doesn't put out any light, your left needing 15 seconds to get enough ambient light to record anything.

hope this helps, my wife says that when I try and explain things to people I just confuse them more!


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2/7/2006 7:21:54 AM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Hey,
two questions, does anyone know how to install that free bleach process thing onto PS CS? and I am having a mind blank on the selective color process... help!! I know I usually make a new layer, desaturate, then use the little circle insise the square thing at bottom of layers palette, but i'm dong something wrong, when I use the brush to pain back color it's not showing color, only white or black...
anyone?
THanks,
Erinn


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2/7/2006 8:02:46 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Bryan, I think your explanation was excellent, I totally caught on to what you were explaining and think it puts the whole process into perspective. You even add humor, what more could we ask for?

Erinn, our minds must be conspiring today or something. I'm having trouble even visualizing the layers palette. If it comes to me while I'm cleaning, I'll pop back on.


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2/7/2006 8:57:49 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Oops, I forgot to compliment everyone on the beautiful work. Everyone is doing great!!!


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2/7/2006 8:59:39 AM

 
Pat Wimpee   Erinn- Is your drop down menu on the mode menu (at the top) set to color not something else?


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2/7/2006 9:14:40 AM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  I'm not sure... i'm just not remembering something!! grrr...
so, has anyone heard of "National Photo Awards" contest?
It had a prize for National photographer of the year for $1,000. along with some monthly contest with Prize$... so I thought I would try it.
THere is a small entry fee. I went for the yearly contest.. the big $ LOL
I didn't win but I got an award of excellence for my "annabella" portrait.
I emailed to see how many entrants there were. haven't heard yet. you can check it out at: www.NationalPhotoAwards.com

I assume it's a legit contest. Anyone know any different?

Erinn


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2/7/2006 9:51:41 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Erinn, I have not heard of them....sorry...


and OMG!!!!!!!!!!! we are on the second page of questions...where is everyone??
this is a first in I don't know how long


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2/7/2006 5:27:37 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Tonya,
I was thinking the same thing!! watching american idol???


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2/7/2006 6:06:57 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
I need an opinion, which photo looks best?

Thank You
Suzy


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2/7/2006 6:13:04 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
see attached


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2/7/2006 6:18:12 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  what a cute kid!
i think it depends what look your going for? 2 looks more like a painting?


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2/7/2006 6:27:48 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Suzy,
I really like the black and white one, the colorization is beautiful!

Hey, thought I would pass along this website... www.shuttermom.com
looks pretty neat...has some good ideas, info, etc.
saw it in a magazine today.

those of you in small towns....12000 or less... what are you charging for a sitting?
I think because of a lack of experience, I should be on the low side, and especially low ball my competition, but I read allot about not underpricing, but I think the big prices come with the big experience...
just a thought


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2/7/2006 6:28:57 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Thank you Erinn and Tonya. Number two is high Key.

Tonya, do not go to low people will not take you serious. Then later it will be difficult to bring up your prices.

Suzy


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2/7/2006 6:40:21 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  so suzy, share how you did the color on the first one? I'm having a brain freeze with selective color...
Tonya,
i guess it depends more on the income levels of the people in your town. It's true that peopel won't take you seriously if you go too low. but you want to get them in the door. so maybe offer it as an INTRODUCTORY OFFER for 6 mos or something and then the prices go up? I charge $40 for session fee. $15 for 8x10 and I think i'm cheap....but i'm paying my bills... for now. I started at $35.. last year..


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2/7/2006 6:47:41 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
I find that if you take a great photo but use a cheap lab your reputation is on the line. Therefore, first figure how much is going to cost you to develop the pictures. Another thing, the more people in the photo, the more difficult it is to pose them (more work). That is why JCPenney or Sears charge for sitting fees. Another trick, learn to place 5x7, wallets sizes in an 8x10 package.

To achieve these tints is VERY easy, go toImage>Adjustment>Hue Saturation and lower the saturation (slowly) to your left. That is it!!!!

But keep it a secret :) :)

Suzy


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2/7/2006 7:15:31 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Suzy- I can't decide, I really like them both. But the coloring is pretty neat in the first one.

You know, everyone here takes such beautiful photos. I'm jealous! I need good lights. :(


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2/7/2006 7:16:29 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Oh gosh Dawn! I am jealous of you! I love all of your pictures. They look like Victorian photos, so very clasic. I just got my lights, Alien Bees, they are pretty well priced. Cheap!!!

Suzy


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2/7/2006 7:20:51 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
This photo was stamped, does it look okay?

Thank You
Suzy


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2/7/2006 8:52:05 PM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
  Suzy, I liked #1. I love the way the color is subtle in it. My wife is a huge fan of black and white and I like color so I have been playing with some images like yours that are more in the middle.

Also, I love your backdrop. Where did you get it? It seems to go with so many themes.

Chris


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2/7/2006 10:17:19 PM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
  Quick question. I know I read in one of these last threads where some of you were talking about leather or simulated leatherbound proof presentation books. I cannot remember where to look and what site to look at to get them or the name of the manufacturer.

I had planned on using 12 proof books. Does anyone have a suggestion on a price to charge for this book if they should want to buy the proofs. Also do you charge a deposit for them to take this book home?

Mostly I just need to know where to get them.

I have been lurking lately and have loved seeing all of everybodys work here.

Debby I will get some shots done in practice and post those but life has me going 6 different directions at once. We have four kids at home and for the time being I am Mr. Mom. Lots of trips here and there. But now I can fully appreciate what my wife went through when she was a stay at home mom. It has given some very wonderful time with my youngest(3 year old).

I Just finished my first newborn shots and as soon as I get a release signed I'll post here. Looking forward to your reviews.


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2/7/2006 10:29:26 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Suzy- Thanks! You're so nice! I really love the pics with the color tint in them. I've done a few of them but I don't think they look as good as the ones you did. I don't quite get the stamped one though. When I stamp anything it's like a painting almost in black and white. I must be doing something wrong. But yours looks beautiful!

Laura O'Connor- I was told to ask you about contracts, etc. I'm trying to type something out to give to a client before the shoot, to protect myself. Can you help?


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2/7/2006 11:17:52 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  suzy, what do you mean by stamped? did you clone something out?


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2/8/2006 4:36:42 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Chris, I purchased the backdrop out of a NEw York store that was selling them on the side; It is a 10x20 and I payed $130.00, they had a few others which were very niced. When I went back for more, the store had closed down. They were in the business of installing radios so it was just my very short luck that they were selling these backdrops so cheap. I have seen the same bacdrops for about $ 400.00 in Wong. Thank You for your feedback. You must be really busy with your children. Enjoy them, I lost my 19 year old son last year. I now only have my 9 year old.

Laura, a stamp is like a brush that you can use with PS, sometimes you can get some good quality ones for free in Adobe Studio Exchange, under brushes. The trick is to learn which colors to use and what opacity. The borders around my photo, the ones that look like a vine of flowers are fake (that is the stamp). Here are some examples. Go check them out, they are soooo much fun.

Dawn- My dear lady, your work is awesome. Many of your photos are creative, unique and perfect. I learn from your work. Check out the Adobe Exchange Studio and see the difference stamps they have. Experiment with the opacity and colors.

Thank you all for looking at my work.

Suzy


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2/8/2006 5:41:14 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  thanks everyone for the opinions on pricing...it is hard to know what to do.
my town has a pop of about 9,000, maybe 10,000. We have larger cities 90,000 and up to the north and south within 60 miles, so those places are full of jcpennys, sears, walmarts, then your step up from there with the larger chain type studios, olan mills, shugarts, etc,which is more proffessional, but still in an affordable range, then the proffessional photographers who work on their own...and they can get pretty pricey, but they are good and have earned their prices too. I know I am no where near that range, but I did not wnat to under price my self either.
I think I am in a good starting place, especcially after hearing some of you. I have two main cometitors here, one has been in business for a while and the other is fairly new. I set my prices for sittings and prints between them. Currently I am charging $30 for a sitting of 1-3 ppl and then $10 a person after 4,. I also have some per priint prices, my 8x10 are $12, ( a really popular place in a larger town charges $15 a sheet.), then I have some package deals that are right in line with these more popular studios. I am using full color lab right now, and will probably use mpix as well, so I am making a fair amount off my prints.
Thanks...it feels good to know I am in the right ball park

Dawn, I searched the internet over looking at contracts and I have some made up, I will email them to you if you would like to see, they are in word format...I would like to hear what Laura has as well.


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2/8/2006 7:03:22 AM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
  Suzy, first of all, I'm sorry about your son. That is something I don't even want to imagine what it would be like to go through.

Thank you for the info on the backdrop. I keep hoping I can run into a deal like that. I was bidding on Debby's paint spatter background but I wasn't paying attention to when the auction ran out and someone else got away cheap with it. Also if you were trying to post a link to the stamp tools it didn't come through.

Does anyone have word on where to get the proof presentation folders?

Chris


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2/8/2006 7:34:45 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  HI, ALL! GOOD MORNING!! GREAT WORK EVERYONE!

Bryan, great detailed explanation. I appreciate you chiming in to clarify!

Debbie V, Nice maternity shots!

Dawn, E-mail me directly and I can send you what I use. It may or may not be what you're looking for.

Chris, You can try www.michaelcompany.com They have great prices for professional photographers. Just e-mail them and request a catalog telling them that you are a professional. I believe it's a 50% discount off their listed prices! And they carry TAP and all the big names.
I look forward to those newborn shots!


Thanks, ALL, for the comments on my Valentine panel!


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2/8/2006 7:52:48 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Good Morning All!!!!
I have not been around much_I do check in and watch,lol,lol yes , I see you,lol.

I have been working on my next CD on Studio Operations and Equiptment.
I have had so many emails for something like this -I thought I had better do it.
So now I need help from all of you,
Could you take a few minutes and write me a note and send it through "my contact"
and tell me :
* what you most need to know about mobile and studio set up.
* and what you have learned from this thread that helped you to succeed.
* Daneille (and any one who may also be a web designer-I will ad 2 others besides Daneille), I need a Ad from you on wed design and the importance of a web page (that is if you want )
* also, I would really appreciate it if 1 or 2 of you with Alien bees would send me pictures of your light heads.

I want to thank all of you for any and all help,
Debby


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2/8/2006 9:08:43 AM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Hi guys, I've been soo busy at work & totally out of the loop for DAYS on this thread....

Looking for a couple of thoughts-

I've got a 17-yr old girl to shoot on 2/18 and I need more light. I have the Digital Rebel and a 420ex with a stroboframe bracket.

I need to buy another flash to have anyways, so I'm gonna go for the 580. Now I can use my 420 as a slave. BUT, will this be enough?? Do I mount the 580 in the hot shoe, and use the 420 at a 45 degree angle (mounted on a tripod??)

I've been searching on BP and some are using Hot Lights, but I'm sort of dreading that whole thing. I'd really like to use multiple flashes instead, but I really dont know if 2 will cut it. Any thoughts?????


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2/8/2006 9:19:09 AM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Chris- try www.hubphoto.com for TONS of different pro albums/folders. They also carry TAP. Their delivery is superfast. I don't know how prices compare, I just like dealing with them & always buy there.


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2/8/2006 10:24:27 AM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Debbie V- I love the preggie shots... are you using studio lights??


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2/8/2006 1:09:53 PM

 
Bryan J. Sorenson  
 
  Zap
Zap
This shows me shorting the camera plug on a sync cord with a push pin to manually fire strobe
© Bryan J. Sorenson
Nikon D70 Digital ...
 
 
Dawn,
Did you get your light problem solved? I have had bad sync cord. They are easy to test.
plug cord into strobe, do not plug into camera
turn on strobe
Short across inner post and outer sheath on plug end that goes into camera. use a pin, needle, paper clip or any other small metal object.
as soon as you touch both at the same time strobe should fire. it should fire every time you do it (if charged)
If it doesn't fire your cord is probably the culprit.
If it does fire every time then the flash sync on the camera is misbehaving.
since it does fire when you unplug the cord I am assuming that the recieving part of the strobe is OK.
There isn't any power in the sync cord so you shouldn't get shocked.
Good luck


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2/8/2006 4:41:58 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
Hi All!
It is snowing like crazy here & I had to share these pictures I did! I thought they were very interesting! Since I was playing with my manual modes & I got some pretty cool shots. Be sure to tell me what ya think!!

BTW!! debby I am going to email you on that studio CD you are doing, Just having the time!! LOL!! If you need some pics of some Alien bees I can get you a few. Just let me know!!
Oh & suzy I love that back drop! One day I want to get a senic one something like that one!! Great buy though!!

Kristy

Kristy


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2/8/2006 6:02:18 PM

 
Cari F. Minnamon   Good evening everyone. I have been very busy taking pictures and need all of your advice, again!! When I left all of you back in the middle of the thread I had a question about the Gala event I was taking pictures for of my boss who is running for congress having to do with model releases. That ended up being a non-issue, everyone at the event was very gracious and understanding. Even those I asked if it would be OK to take their picture and put it on the candidates website did not have a problem at all. Here is my new problem pertaining to this same situation. I do not know how to bill my boss for these pictures. Basically for his campaign (primary) he has budgeted $1700.00 for a photographer (me). This is to cover all events from the one that I shot on Friday (February 3) through November 4. At this point he does not know how many events there will be total. This is making it difficult for both of us to figure out what to charge/pay for my services. On Friday at the Gala I took pictures for 4 hours. I took over 300 photos, but gave him 100 on a CD to put on his website. I spent 14 hours total retouching and editing the photos and gave him both the full size image with a watermark of my copyright information on it and the same images reduced to be ready to post on the web. If this were a wedding I would at least charge $100 per hour for shooting time and $3.50 per picture for realease on CD. If I were to charge him this for the gala it would be $750.00 just for one event. That is taking a huge chunk off his budget right from the start. He wants me to put a proposal together explaining how he wants me to pay him for now through November. He is suggesting a monthly payment plan. If this were the case according to my math $1700 divided by 9 months is $188.88 per month. You see where I am going with this. Although I am getting alot of exposure by taking pictures for him, there is a point where the time that I am spending or am going to spend in taking pictures for him will far exceed what he has budgeted to pay for. How can I put a proposal together that outlines what I usually charge, and contrast that with what he has budged to pay me and come to some kind of agreement. Please help. Any suggestions are very welcome and needed.
Thanks


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2/8/2006 6:02:56 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Bryan- my end of the sync cord isn't like that, I had to buy a hotshoe adapter for mine to go into. But I heard I can do the same thing with the adapter also. I'll try! Thanks for the advice!!


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2/8/2006 6:09:36 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Suzy- I'm so sorry for your loss. I don't even know what to say. :(


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2/8/2006 6:19:57 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Thank you Dawn, sometimes just saying what you did is good enough. I am absorb in taking photos, it helps me deal with staying in sane. I spend many hours just playing with photos until I get exhausted then go to bed. Thank you for just being there!

Suzy


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2/8/2006 6:46:41 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Suzy, I too am sorry for your loss. I know how incredibly hard it must be for you right now, as I have watched my own mother grieve for the loss of my brother who died unexpectedly at the age of 22. Nothing can be compared to losing a child. My heart goes out to you. Life will be easier for you as the time passes. You have an angel watching over you! God bless!


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2/8/2006 7:25:59 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Thank you,Danielle`& Sandi DeBondt!!!!!
I had asked for some help from you guys and Sandra was good enough to write me a really nice note and it was so helpful.
Please if you guys could please take a look at my question-this time I really need your help,to make sure I cover all the bases.
HERE IS MY REQUEST AGAIN IN CASE NONE OF YOU SAW IT:


Previous Response:
from Debby T.
on 2/8/2006 9:08:43 AM Good Morning All!!!!
I have not been around much_I do check in and watch,lol,lol yes , I see you,lol.
I have been working on my next CD on Studio Operations and Equiptment.
I have had so many emails for something like this -I thought I had better do it.
So now I need help from all of you,
Could you take a few minutes and write me a note and send it through "my contact"
and tell me :
* what you most need to know about mobile and studio set up.
* and what you have learned from this thread that helped you to succeed.
* Daneille (and any one who may also be a web designer-I will ad 2 others besides Daneille), I need a Ad from you on wed design and the importance of a web page (that is if you want )
* also, I would really appreciate it if 1 or 2 of you with Alien bees would send me pictures of your light heads.

tahnk you again,Debby


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2/8/2006 7:26:59 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Debby, tomorrow I will take pictures of my pink :) Alien Bees. And a note about what has helped me to take my first steps towards studio lighting.

Thank you for all your help,
Suzy


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2/8/2006 7:31:15 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2004
  Dawn, that little thing that Bryan took picture of... that's the little thing that was on my hotshoe adapter thing that was causing my problem. that little pin.

Carri, it is what it is. If that's what you would normally charge to cover an event, then you have to tell him that's what it is. If it's over his budgeted amount..well,... don't htey ALways go over budget? If you want to cut him a break, becasue you think it would be good exposure for you, well, you make sure you tell him that you are cutting him a break, so that he doesn't expect those kinds of prices next time!
Kristy lucky you, snow!! wish I had some.
Denyse,
try using a big reflector on the opposite side of your 2nd light source. you should be fine!

Erinn


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2/8/2006 7:32:03 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
 
 
BetterPhoto.com Editor's Pick   Old Time Fun
Old Time Fun
© Liza M. Franco
Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
 
I was in the mood for some old time photos today and had a semi-cooperative model. The lighting isn't right because part of my equipment is still at the shop instead of at home. It stinks to be in the mood to try out your lighting in you new studio setting and realize your barn doors and an umbrella aren't there, oh well, we had fun anyway.

For those of you who commented threads ago about too much shine on the wash tub, mine is so old, there is absolutely no shine on this baby. It does have some rust going on in the bottom though, so I layer it before setting anyone down in it.

Have a great night everyone.


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2/8/2006 8:48:59 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  hey everyone!
Got my lights today...happy dance happy dance!!!
I have not got to do anyting other than take them out and look at them though, they came in about 5 minutes before I left for church...arg
anyway, gonna play tomorow...but man, just a few tidbits of instruction would help with setup....geezz...
anyway, I can look though the threads to get started on setup...just one thing though...
does the room you are setup in have to be dark? I don't know if I can do that, all my rooms are small with windows. I may be able to make enough room using my kitchen and living area, but there is lots of light in there, if it has to be dark, I will have to practice...and shoot for that matter...at night
if anyone can get me started with this issue, hoepfully I can get going good before I need anything else...(crossing fingers)

Debbie...will get some info to you tomorrow...I am beat...gotta go to bed


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2/8/2006 9:38:50 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Bryan- Ignore my last message. (duh)
I tried what you said and it fired. So you say it could be the camera?? What do I do?

Liza- Gorgeous pictures! The lighting even looks great!


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2/8/2006 9:56:57 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Oh Suzy- I almost forgot......I LOVE THAT PICTURE!!! The teddy bear one. That is so cute!! I love his expression. (the boy, not the bear) LOL although the bear is cute too. :)


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2/8/2006 10:00:02 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Liza, WWWOOOO,HOOOO that is such a cute shot!!!!
absolutly beautiful!
well all good night


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2/8/2006 10:36:51 PM

 
Denyse Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/2/2002
  Erinn- thank you for the suggestion, I will give it a try!! I'm hoping to practice this weekend/early next week.


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2/9/2006 5:05:33 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Good Morning!!
Liza, as I told you , it had been the end of a BAAAAD day and I was going to bed.
I thought you posted the one you sent me- COME ON,SHARE THAT ONE WITH EVERYONE !!!!! it is thecutest collage of pictures I have seen in some time. A wonderful and thought out piece of work.PPPLLLLEASE!

SUZY!! you have PINK Alien Bees? dang that photogenic they make the best products, but not in PINK! witch is my favorite color :-(
ok, I'm bummed.lol,lol


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2/9/2006 6:00:36 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
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This one is for you Debby because you got me to get moving again and put things in perspective when I was feeling overwhelmed. These were the first test shots in the new studio area.


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2/9/2006 6:18:14 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  absolutely adorable liza!


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2/9/2006 6:25:03 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
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  Thanks for the compliments on the first one. The old trike was bought at an auction, I got 2 of them for $5.00 Debby, the best part is I don't even have to stabilize the one used in the photo, it has a broken wheel so it can't roll anywhere.

The little mop cap or bath cap is really easy to make if anyone likes that look. I'm making one for Debby so I'll write down measurements if anyone is interested.

Tonya, congratulations on your lights.


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2/9/2006 6:25:56 AM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Sorry Debb, I do have pink Alien Bees, they are sooo femine looking. :)

I am trying to achieve the old look of the 1950's, what do you think of this photo and the colors?

Thank you for your CC and feedback.
Suzy


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2/9/2006 6:26:28 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Tonya, you and I were typing at the same time, thank you.

Suzy, that is great!!! I think you really nailed the 50's look. You asked about colors, I'm curious about how a blue background would look. I change my background colors in Photoshop all the time. I really like the coloring on the little one, beautifully done.

I think I'm going to paint one wall chromakey green because I have taken a lot of really great pictures of old barns and want to start popping people into them.


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2/9/2006 6:37:44 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  The portrait looks great Suzy!!
ok, so now that I have some one with PINK Alien Bees(DANG IT!,lol,lol)
Liza, maybe you be so creative could make me a pink light cover-ah ha the best of both worlds!!! lol,lol

any way those are the ones I have to have in the CD for the Alein Bee example.
Suzy, will you take pictures of the sides and back and a angled front shot with the bulb and is the bulb replaceable? and how?
thanks for your help you will get mentioned for contributing them.
and does any one else have these in colors?
thank you Tonya for such a nice note in responce to my question! it will help alot!


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2/9/2006 6:46:14 AM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
  Debby, I have a three light Alien Bee setup, but they are black. I thought about getting colors but all of my bags, cases, camera, lenses(with the exception of one L series lens) are black. I like it when I have all of my equipment out, it all matches.

If you would like pics of black Alien Bees let me know I will be happy to get some to you.

Chris


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2/9/2006 7:11:38 AM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Good morning all!

Liza - I LOVE that last collage you have posted, it's beautiful. You have a very cute model too! :-)

I would love the instructions for the cap.


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2/9/2006 7:34:06 AM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Denyse...

Thanks for the compliments on the maternity shots, I do have studio lights, britek four light kit, two umbrellas and a softbox, I didn't use the teeny weeny light.. Thanks again, debbie


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2/9/2006 8:22:49 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  did anyone know if I need to have a dark the area to use with my lights, or will they work fine with available light as well?


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2/9/2006 8:48:50 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Thanks Christine, I'll send you the info when I get it all typed out. It is a really easy project. You can even make it reversible by putting one fabric on the outside (I always use cheap white Wal-Mart sheets) and then a print or different color fabric on the other side.

If anyone likes that font, its kind of old time western looking, it is called Carnival MF and I think I got it from 1001 fonts.

Hmmmm, Debby you need pink light covers huh? We'll have to work on that one when I see you and have them in front of me. The workshops may only be a weekend, but I think you and I are going to have to plan for a week with all the projects and ideas we're compiling. Its going to be a blast.


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2/9/2006 8:49:08 AM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  I went to the alien bees website lastnight. I thought the colors were so funny. There was one called Martian green, I can't remember what the rest were, I'm just starting my first coffee of the morning. lol

Suzy- Another awesome picture!! It totally reminds me of an old 50's portrait of a sailor. that's funny!!

Liza- Gorgeous collage! What a cute little model. I would love to know how to make that hat too.


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2/9/2006 9:00:22 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Tonya, I'm by no means an expert in this area, but since I may be the only one on right now I'll try to help. My room is usually medium lighting, I make sure all lights are off just so I can see where the model lights are showing up.

I did just bring my stuff home though for a home studio instead and the room I shot the old timey pictures in yesterday is very brightly lit by natural light. I only used one light in those and the natural light from the window. So I don't think darkness is a necessity. I did find that at the shop it was better for me to make sure the overhead flourescent lights were off. This was when I was first trying to get my lighting right and it was giving my photos a green cast.

This afternoon I will be doing more photos and will have the rest of my equipment so I can use a three light system. I'll let you know how it works out, but I think it will be fine. And that room is really bright on a normal afternoon.

I know there are a lot of people on here a lot more qualified in the area of lighting than I am, so hopefully some of them will be able to help you a bit more.


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2/9/2006 9:00:38 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
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  Hi Dawn, I was thinking about you as I was shooting these yesterday. I'll send you the hat instructions too. I don't know how well you can tell, but in the first collage with the tricycle, she has on short little bloomer. I want to make her a pair of pantaloons, you know the longer ones that come down just below the knee. Thank goodness for my cheap white sheets. For anyone else who likes to do these type of pictures, old dresses are hard to find, but often you can give an impression of an older outfit just by adding little things like pantaloons and the little mop cap or an older looking hat. Little shoes and boots are still my biggest challange. This is where photoshop comes in. I have modified many mary janes and black boots.

I'm hoping to have a few of my daughters friends over for photos today. My little one gets bored with this stuff really quickly, I'm surprised that I even got those shots yesterday. I promise for everyone that is on here, there were 5 more where she would turn her head away just as I clicked, or run out of the picture totally. She really has no patience for it.

Suzy, did you supply the sailor outfit? It is adorable.


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2/9/2006 9:11:04 AM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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I love the pantaloons. I took this picture of my neice in the summer, my sister had the outfit given to her by a friend. She said she'll give it to me for pictures. Yeah! :)


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2/9/2006 9:20:20 AM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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I love the pantaloons. I took this picture of my neice in the summer, my sister had the outfit given to her by a friend. She said she'll give it to me for pictures. Yeah! :)


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2/9/2006 9:23:05 AM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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  Suzy- I think the photos are more of a 30's or 40's era.


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2/9/2006 9:31:18 AM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  ok, call me stupid if you want...I got my lights out to play and learn how to set them up, etc...just out of the box. Got the BRITEK set and I cannot for the life of me figure out how the HS2000 goes on the light stand. I got the two smaller ones, they had a screw hole to fit the screw on the light head, got the umbrellas in them, but the big one does not have the screw hole on the bottom of the light adjuster....am I missing something here?
I also have the SM400 and it has this connector thingie that the flash bulb goes into and that plugs in and it is the same...no screw hole, so how do I get it on a stand?
I am so lost right here...anyone...Laura...Debby? Please help my blonde brain


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2/9/2006 12:03:51 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  oh and Liza...thanks for the help with the lighting...


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2/9/2006 12:04:21 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Tonya- Sorry I can't help, I just thought that was funny....connector thingie.....LOL (technical term?)
Sounds like me. :)


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2/9/2006 12:17:17 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  oh girl! I have something way more funny...will have to tell later...


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2/9/2006 12:20:25 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  LOL! Tonya, believe me, I know. I had NO CLUE. My husband put it all together for me and I never touched it until I had to bring them on-location in November!!! I was TERRIFIED I'd look like an idiot because I had no idea how to do it!

The HS-200 and the SM200 each should have 3 circular parts. One with a tab/pointy thingy (LOL! YEP, technical term) (right side) one that holds your light head (middle) and a 3rd that has a big hole in it (left side). Unscrew (loosten) the one with the tab, that's the one you tighten and loosten with. The one in the middle holds the light itself and the one on the left side should have a BIG octagonal hole in it. The pieces of that side should start to come apart when you loosten the other side. Slide that hole over the screw head on your stand and tighten the tab side again. If you need me to, I can post a picture of it later.


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2/9/2006 12:27:04 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  OMG!!!! Laura...thanks SOOOO much!! I would have NEVER got that. At first I thought that hole had something to do with it, but it would not fit, after that the thought left my head!!
wow...glad I have you here!
more later...my baby woke up and needs to rock...playing on hold...thanks again...
this is a comical thing here...LOL


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2/9/2006 12:44:09 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  LOL, it's like a disease us women have. Ever notice that? Men would use the right terms and everything. I just think it's so hilarious!! LOL
"Thingy Disease"


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2/9/2006 12:53:59 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Dawn...me too! LOL...even funnier, is that we all "get it", I knew exactly what Laura was talking about....ROFL

ok...the other funny thing...when I got out my light stands I was setting them up and the big one...I come to find out...is spring loaded...I find this out while looking over the top of the light stand at the little "thingies" that tighten when you raise and lower the bar...so picture me looking over the stand, my face right above the top of the stand, and at that moment I pull the little "thingie", thinking it is like my others that screw and "whap" the thing hits me right in the face...nearly took out my eye!!! ROFL....I could not even worrry about it for lauging....ROFl

Ok Laura, when you get time, more silly questions ..
1..do you use a power strip to plug all this in
2..I can make all 4 lights go off with the slave setting and my on camera flash..is this the way to do it? I have sync cords, but they won't plug into each other(that I can tell) and I don't see a plug on my d50 or my sb600 flash...
and man oh man...I am a cord hating freak...this is going to make me crazy!!!lol
ok later gaters
i'll be back soon


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2/9/2006 1:19:26 PM

 
Christine Herr
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/30/2005
  Hey Tonya, sounds like you're having fun!!

I have a D50 as well and I had to buy an adapter for the sync cord. This adapter goes where you put your flash. I think mine cost about $25. This was the only way I could get my flashes to go off as the sb600 I have woudn't activate the other lights. Hope this helps you out a bit!


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2/9/2006 1:40:44 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Tonya,
Just emailed you my number.
A siggestion for all of you with lights:
As you set them up,get 3-4 different color tapes( like elec.tape) after set up-give a color to each light and then put a ring of that color tape around every thing that goes with that light.
when ever you take the system apart you will not have to think about it the next time you put it together.
You'll just match the colors.
MAKE IT SIMPLE! Laura, don't you laugh,you know that is my FAVORITE SAYING!lol,lol


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2/9/2006 1:56:58 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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Tonya- I'm so glad that it didn't take an eye out. But that was hilarious!! LOL

Anyway, I tested my strobe again lastnight, went off every time (for now) Here's a couple of the pics.
Can anyone tell me how to remove red blotches off my son's face (the dark haired one) I have no idea how to do that except using the clone tool but that makes it too uneven. I have Photoshop CS2
Any other suggestions or critisism welcome.


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2/9/2006 4:17:38 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Dawn, go to the bandage on the PS tool bar, choose healing tool, then go to the marks on the face and right on an area that is good click on ALT and then on the area that is red.

Suzy


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2/9/2006 4:29:36 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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  LOL! ROFLMAO!!! I have to say, Tonya, THAT was funny! Even funnier, I did the SAME THING only in front of a client!!!! What a group we are!!!

YES, you need the AS-15 or something like it to plug your sync cord into. Plug it into your camera and your main. The Slave function fires all the other light heads in sync with the shutter and main (see Bryan's explanation above as to why. He took more time to detail the answer. My short answer...it just won't work with the infrared because the timing is off.)

I am actually lucky enough to not need a power strip. FUNNY, too, it took me a month to figure that out. I have at least one outlet on each wall and each light is right near its own outlet. I had them all plugged into a powerstrip (my husband's idea, actually!!!) and I just didn't look up from the floor to see that they don't all have to be plugged into the same place!!! LOL! Like I said, what a group!


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2/9/2006 4:32:14 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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Suzy- Thanks! That was so much fun!!
Here's the before and after together.
How does it look?


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2/9/2006 4:43:05 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  PERfect! Now, why don't you put a little color on the cheeks?

Grab the dropper, click on the lips.
Go to brushes and grad a soft brush.
The circle should be almost the same size of the cheeks and on the top Opacity lower to about 6/7 and lightly but color on the cheeks but do not give him a fever.

Suzy


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2/9/2006 4:48:33 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
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I need an opinion, which photo looks better?

Suzy


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2/9/2006 4:50:46 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  woohoo...Laura that is a trip! we are too silly I think!

well, I am frustrated now, wish I would have known I needed this little thing...maybe I should have been paying attention huh? LOL
so is this it?
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Nikon-AS-15-PC-Flash-Sync-Terminal-D70-D100-D50_W0QQitemZ7587848860QQcategoryZ64354QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Laura, didn't you say a while back that you have a wireless thingie that fires your lights that was not expensive, like $25 or something, I looked back but can't find it. If I could do that for around the price of the other thingie then that would be better..
Debbie...thanks. I do want to call you, guess I need to wait to get my adapter in though...:(
you guys are great!
Dawn...cute pics...are you the one with little space? Cause I would try getting them away from the backdrop some, but I get the lack of space, it is fixin to hit me smack in the face when I try to set everything up...lol
you can also try that gaussian blur thing on the bottom layer after you correct the spots, it is a nifty little trick, really smooths things out.


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2/9/2006 4:51:46 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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Suzy- Oh, now I'm having way too much fun here!! Is this enough on the cheeks or more? I like the first one of your pics, I like the texture on the bear. But they are both still very cute!!

Tonya- I do have a limited space although I want to move them away from the backdrop but the biggest problem is that my backdrop just isn't big enough. I need a bigger one
or a matching floor cloth.


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2/9/2006 4:58:32 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Dawn: Let's keep having a little more fun.
Go underneath the bucket tool and grad the
dodge tool circle with stick coming out. Magnify your photo pretty much so that you can work inside the eyes. Lower the Exposure to about 10 and very carefuly lighten the eyes to bring life.

Suzy


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2/9/2006 5:04:53 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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Okay, I'm not sure I did this right. I think it's hard because he's lying on his side.


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2/9/2006 5:11:41 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
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  Tonya, nope. The AS-15 is the only thing I've been telling people about. You use it with a sync cord plugged into your main. Those radio controllers that Debby and Debbie had mentioned are WAY to expensive for me right now. Someday.


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2/9/2006 5:19:55 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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okay, I just cropped it closer so you can see it better


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2/9/2006 5:22:04 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
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  Dawn: You did it right. I can see the difference when I blow up the photo. Now, he has very dark hair. Do you see where the light is hitting him (hair) do the same with the dodge tool, big enough to cover that small area of hair, opacity about 15 bring some highlights to that area.

Suzy


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2/9/2006 5:23:54 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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Okay, I went a bit crazy, so I don't know how this looks. I tried to go with the hair.


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2/9/2006 5:31:01 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
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  Dawn: I like the side but not the top; but it is okay you are learning and you can always press the Edit>Undo.

If you look at the rose, there is an area where is lighter (white) with the same tool you can enhance that light. To make the rose pinker in the dark area choose the burn tool underneath the dodge tool.

Go to Layers & on the arrow on the top click on it.
New Layer / Mode: Overlay / Click on Fill with over lay Lower opacity to about 30.

Soft brush enhance areas you want to darken.

Suzy


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2/9/2006 5:41:16 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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  I can't find the burn tool. Under my dodge tool is the text tool.


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2/9/2006 5:59:30 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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  Nevermind, I found it. I didn't know to right click on the dodge tool for more choices. I'm new at this photoshop stuff.


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2/9/2006 6:04:03 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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Okay, let me know if you can see the difference. Does it look okay? And I tried to fix the hair.

I hope this isn't annoying anyone, all these updated pics. Let me know and I'll stop.


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2/9/2006 6:11:05 PM

 
Bryan J. Sorenson   Tonya,
My studio/shop has a lot of ambient light. I use my camera, Nikon D70, in manual 1/500 sec. and f11 to f18. This makes outside light a non issue unless your in full sun.

I just use the pop up flash to trigger my britek lights and have never had any problems. You have to set the flash mode to manual as well. I cover the flash with a piece of developed unexposed slide film (the ends of the roll, free at any photo lab.) This blocks the visible light so when I am up close to a subject the flash doesn't add any light to the picture. The photoreceptors (the little thingie with a soft squishy dohickie over it) on the strobe do need to be in direct line with the onboard flash. So if you are to the side of, in front of, or using an umbrella, the strobe can't "see" the small flash. If I'm using a black background and have my back lights off, I have an old sb-800 that will function as a slave. I just set it somewhere on the floor or a chair where it can "see" my camera go off. I aim it at my single strobe and it can then see the flash from the off camera speedlight.

Hope this isn't to confusing, perhaps you can find a transalator to convert this into thingeese! It is truly amazing that you ladies can understand each other, cause us guys are totally cluless!


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2/9/2006 6:13:04 PM

 
Bryan J. Sorenson   Dawn,
It may not be the camera, if it is you will need to take it in to the shop.

Does your camera have a built in popup flash?
YES>Will it fire every time? Is it properly synced with the shutter?
NO>Do you have a hot shoe mounted flash attachment?

When you tested the sync cord did you short across the terminal on the cord or across the camera connections of the hot shoe adapter? If it works by shorting the cord and your on camera flash works I would then suspect the hot shoe adapter. All of my film cameras has sync ports so I have no experience with the adapters.

If your on camera flash or speedlight function properly when you are taking pictures without the strobes, you should be able to trigger your slave strobes with them. I find it much more trouble free than using cords. Laura and others have not been able to get thiers to work this way, but I would think if you can get everything in manual mode it should work. you just have to take all control away from the camera. I am old school and all I know is manual, I do think the autofoucus is cool.

Which bring me to my next point, I am just learning Photoshop CS. I'm blown away by what you ladies are doing in it. Liza mentioned a "chromakey green" background, I am guessing that this is like a "blue screen" for TV. I am really interested in this! How does it work? can it all be done in PSCS or do I need another program?


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2/9/2006 6:35:57 PM

 
Dawn T. Palmerley
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  Bryan- Yes my camera does have a built in pop up flash and yes it does work when I use it. I've never had a problem with it. Is there a way to test the adapter??? I tried to put the pin on that but it did nothing so I don't know if that was right or not. (I'm not electrical) lol


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2/9/2006 6:41:36 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
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  Suzy, way back up to your question, I like #1 better.

Bryan, I don't know too much about that program yet, but I'm sure it will work with that one too. You are exactly right about the blue or green screen. You can buy backdrops or paint to achieve a background. The idea is that those particular blue and green aren't usually in someone's skin tone, hair or clothing so it is easier to separate your subject from the background to extract them and place them on a different background.

If you give this a shot, pay particular attention to the direction the light is coming from on your intended background and make sure to set your lighting up so that the light direction will match between your subject and the new background.


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2/9/2006 6:51:50 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
HI Everyone!
I have been lurking over & reading all the posts hopeing to find the right time to post!! Well I did a shoot fot a girl, she wanted some sassy/glamour pictures done & I have to say they turned out really nice!! Let me know what you guys think?

Btw!!
I am having such a good time with these light (Alien Bees) I got the black LOL!! Debby I have been meaning to email you about your CD, I am not real great at wording stuff, I usually have hubby go over everything. So what kind of information do you need & I will try to write it up, with out sounding silly LOL!! I am so bad with the thingie work to LOL!!
Thanks for the really cute stories & the laugh.
I do have to say the Alien bees are not to hard to put together!! The soft box was a mission & a half, but so were the others that I have delt with LOL!!
Oh yeah & another thing!! Really love the Oh boy pictures!!

Kristy


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2/9/2006 7:03:54 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
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just another photo from my babysitting day on monday!!


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2/9/2006 7:15:28 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
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just another photo from my babysitting day on monday!!


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2/9/2006 7:15:49 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis   What a beautiful grandbaby Erinn!! She is a doll & a real pretty picture!!

kristy


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2/9/2006 7:25:53 PM

 
Erinn Aloi
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Thanks Kristy! I think so too, but I might be slightly biased!
I LOVE number 1 of your sassy girl! I think it's really great!

here's some more from monday!


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2/9/2006 7:37:09 PM

 
Tonya Cozart
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/22/2003
  Good evening everyone!
Laura...okey dokey...I thought you were all high tech on a nice budget...I guess we can all dream...lol

Bryan, thanks for the info. I will have to try that. I can get the units to fire off my pop up, but I was wondering how it would interfere, the cover is a great idea! I have not tried this in a real setup yet, just put them all together and tripped the shutter to see, I guess I can play with it and see how it goes. I have the sb 600 and a small sunpak slave...maybe I can make it all work. I will probably order the as15 and get it coming since it is so cheap though, cause I am really new at this light stuff and even more new to manual. Ya know, photography should be learned from manual first, it would be easier to understand it all, but alas...who knew that I would discover this at this time in my life after point and shoots have been my pal for so long. My dad made me learn to drive a manual transmission when he taught me how to drive, said he would not teach me an automatic until I mastered the stick...best thing ever, I will be passing that along to my kids. Everyone needs to know how to work the basics and not rely on auto

Suzy, what fun stuff you are teaching, never thought about the adding color or using the dodge tool on the eyes!
Gosh, I love this thread!

Kristy, I like #1 the best too, good job!
erinn, that baby girl is too cute, great job capturing her!


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2/9/2006 8:28:20 PM

 
Bryan J. Sorenson   Dawn,
What make and model is your camera?

You can test the hot shoe adapter if you have a multimeter (electrician thing-a-mabob) to test continuity through each lead.


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2/9/2006 8:37:07 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Great images folks!

Kristy, Love #3 as well! GREAT shot! Love your composition!

Erinn, she's ADORABLE!!! Great shots!!

Tonya... LOL! LOL! LOL! You're funny! High tech??? Nice budget??? HA HA HA HA! Pennies and peanuts, my dear, Pennies and peanuts!

Bryan! You made me laugh!! You made a joke! The "electrician thing-a-mabob"! LOL! You must have a woman helping you translate over there!!!

Thanks, all, for the chuckles! See you tomorrow!! :)


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2/9/2006 8:53:16 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
Krysti: BORING!!! Black Alien Bees LOL
You could have gotten the Mellow Yellow or Martian Greens. To bad I cannot find me some pink umbrellas or soft box. :)
The lighting in your photos are excellent. You may want to enhance those eyes with PS.

Erinn: How does it feel to be a grandmom? Your baby is beautiful, from your son or daughter? The photo came out crisp and clear, simply like a cake frosting.

Dawn: I am happy that you are having so much fun, but it is even easier with a Wacom pen. About $ 99.00. It seems like others are enjoying the lessons, I get them from NAPP. They make the photos look even better. I like sharing tricks with others, learning together.

I need to get myself more subjects to shoot; My neighbors are hidding from me.
When your pet dog runs when she sees you with the camera, you know you have over done it with the pictures.

Going to bed! See ya tomorrow.
Suzy


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2/9/2006 9:03:21 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
 
 
 
My last photo for the night

Suzy


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2/9/2006 9:05:48 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
Thanks suzy!
I like my stuff to match & I knew I couldnt find any green or pink stuff to go with em!! LOL!! I like em!!

You know after seeing all those colored eyes on here I decided to give it a try! I have never done this & this was my first attempt!! LOL!!
Let me know what ya think!!

Kristy


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2/9/2006 9:13:36 PM

 
Kristy  L. Hargis  
 
 
sign in DUH!!!


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2/9/2006 9:15:09 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Krysti: This girl is going to love her photos, they came out great. For a first timer fixing eyes, it is perfect. Another trick is to use the dodge tool in low opacity and touch the white of the eyes, tomorrow we can review the lashes.
Have a great evening, this stuff is addicting.

Suzy


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2/9/2006 9:25:16 PM

 
Chris Van Antwerp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/1/2005
  Suzy, I have been quietly sitting here enjoying your tutorials and trying them myself. This is great stuff. I have filed those tricks and plan to use them more. I would love to know how you create that look that you got on your litte sailor portraits and the "fair maiden". That soft almost painted look truly ads so much to a portrait. Please share if you could.

Kristy, I love those shots. The edit with the blue eyes is great. I have been struggling a bit with position of the lights and settings to use on a black background. Would you care to share how you set up your Bees. I also have the black ones and a softbox but my lighting isn't turning out so well.

Erin, I really love #1. That baby is beautiful. How did you get that blur though? I imagine you would have to use a wide open aperature to get that and a fast shutter speed. But then how do you set your lights.

I know I have been lurking too long because when I do I get filled up with questions.

BTW my wife and I have the thingydohickey speak down. I have had to learn to speak and listen in that language and have adapted fairly well. Sometimes we have managed to talk by pointing and grunting & mumbling.

Chris


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2/9/2006 9:40:15 PM

 
Suzy Betancourt
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/16/2004
  Goodmorning shutterbugs LOL
I got to go to work :( but I cannot seem to stay away.

Chris: I am glad you are enjoying PS, I think the soft effect look you are referring to is a Vignette effect that adds softness to the photo.

Open the photo you want
Press Control J (two duplicate photo)
Get your rectangular tool (top left) and make a very thin (but not to thin) square around your photo. Open your layers palette (get use to always having your layers open). From the bottom of layers palette click once on the paper that looks like a page, Create a New Layer, then hold down the Alt key and press the square with the circle in the middle (Creater a vector. On top of your photo you should have two boxes, one with squares and one that is all black. Click once on the square box, then press Alt+backspace and whatever color is in your Set foreground will be the color of your square (you want it to be either White for soft or black for a strong look). Now click once in your black box, Go to filter>Gaussian Blur>play with the slider on the bottom, Go almost to the end of not quite. The effect you are going to get depends on the size of your selection around your photo and how far you slide that slider to the end. Press OK, Layers>Merge Visible. See what you get, my favor colors are white and black but you can play with sooo many other colors.

Suzy


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2/10/2006 5:42:45 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Good morning ,
you guys need a new thread, so here it is #17:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=22315


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2/10/2006 6:08:57 AM

 
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