Arya C. Wiese |
What should be in a Contract? I am wondering what should I put in a contract for wedding/portrait work? What shouldnt be in it? I need some help drafting up my contracts for weddings and portraits, I have a rough draft but not sure if it's right. Any ideas?
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First, that's an awful big open-ended question. There are entire books written on that very topic. My advice is to go see a lawyer and have them draft it for you.
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Denyse Clark |
I found some great sites on this that were very helpful. Yeah, a lawyer is a good idea, but when you are just starting out who can afford $200/hr for them to draft one. That being said, I'm no lawyer, and this is just my opinion, but this is a basic check list of some of what is in my contract: -include a model release (Photographer maintains rights to all photos, negatives, digital files and may be used for advertising, display or any other purpose thought proper by the Photographer) -include a statement about your abilities (Client understands the Photographers abilities & limitations based on samples of work shown) -include a limited liability statement, this is a biggie! -include specifics about what is included (# hours, all locations, how many photos, what size, albums, etc) -include timeframe for delivery of items to client (i say 3-6 weeks) -include info about overtime charges and costs of "extras" like reprints. I also state how long the price is good on these extras. -include a statement that explains your payment structure (mine is $50 non refundable deposit to hold date, 50% of balance due 2 weeks before wedding, remaining balance due upon delivery of photos) In my liability paragraph I also state that I will make a "reasonable effort to locate another photographer if I cannot shoot, but I am not liable to do so, nor is any such photographer bound by this Agreement". In no way am I suggesting this is a COMPLETE contract, just some things to think about. I'd give you the sites I pulled this info from, but I have no idea what they were now. :)
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Justin G. |
You can see a laywer or you can search online for other peoples' and sample ones and "compile" your own. Best bet would be a lawyer. Expsensive but people dish out tons of money for get rich quick schemes so I'd say this one is actually worth it!
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Arya C. Wiese |
Thank you all for the great advice. I have been searching and never really knew what exactly should be in a contract. All your help and advice is greatly appriciated and will steer me in the right direction. Thanks oodles!!
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Putting together your own is kinda not smart. You don't know anything about the law in your state. So, if you copy one from Kansas and you're from Arkansas, it might have all kinds of laws that don't apply...but, you wouldn't know that. A contract describes the relationship in legal terms. A judge will throw out your contract if it does not apply (like applying laws that don't exist in that state). And yes, they are all quite different. Also, make sure you visit a lawyer that knows about photography things, like copyright. If you shoot, and are sued, you could potentially lose everything you own. So, it's important to have a solid contract. A good insurance policy doesn't hurt either. I harp on this alot, but shooting without insurance is about the not smartest thing that new photographers do. It is more important than your contract, actually.
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Denyse Clark |
Jerry, who says I don't know "anything" about the laws in my state? :) I've been working at my day job for 11 years, and lots of it involves working w/ our attorney on legal documents. You never know what people's background is... Writing a draft and THEN having a lawyer review it and make changes where necessary is a good middle road if you ask me, less expensive than having them draft the entire thing but you still have that protection of a lawyer's approval on it.
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Debby A. Tabb |
Jerry is right this is a big question and you'll get a lot of different answers. So, I am just going to share one small part I have in my contracts: ...." Please note: Photography is a Artistic Media. And as such we do not guarentee that you will appreciate every image taken. This has helped us alot!!
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Justin G. |
Maybe it's not smart. oh well good thing I haven't used it yet. You should look into someone who does federal laws. who knows if you're gotta move interstate. I could go out and get a NC one but it wouldn't mean anythign for cali or indy. that would suck paying a laywer in cali (probably big bucks) if you're only gonna live there a couple years. hey do you guys have any recommendations for an international contract? I'll be "vacationing" in a confidential place at a confidential time in the middle east and i'm taking my AE-1's. if I get a shot of the locals i'll need a release. should I even worry about it?
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Debby A. Tabb |
JUSTIN!!!! OH, START MY DAY OFF WORRIN' KNOCK THAT OFF!! LOL I HOPE IT IS A VERY SHORT "VISIT". I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT IT. PEOPLE GET CAUGHT IN THE PHOTOGRAPHERS EYE ALL THE TIME, I BELIVE YOU WILL HAVE ENOUGH TO WORRY ABOUT. HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY, MY FRIEND! AND I LOVE YOUR PORTRAITS , PLAYING WITH YOUR NEW LIGHTS-HAVIN' FUN AREN'T YA?
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Denyse, that's what I did; draft, and get advice from a lawyer. You don't need a contract or insurance. One day you will wish you did. I don't care what you guys do or don't do. When you ask a question, I am giving you some professional advice about covering your @$$ and not losing everything you own. People are evil. Not all of them, but they are out there. Without something saying that damages are limited to the cost of the photography, you are open to the sky. What if someone says that your awful pictures caused them mental anguish because they were so bad. They lost their job, and now they are going to sue you for $500,000. Don't laugh. While it sounds outrageous, I read more outrageous non-sense than that in the news everyday. We live in a world where counting on human civility and compassion and understanding is STUPID! You NEED to cover yourself in case you get a crazy person as a client. Crazy people don't look crazy. That's the problem with it, they look just like you and me. OK, I'll stop ranting about this issue, and in fact will no longer respond to things about insurance and contracts because it just gets me worked up at the non-sense that is often written on these boards. It is absolutely the most important thing you need to do for your business. It's like driving around without car insurance...it's just asinine.
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Denyse Clark |
Yes, limit your liability with a contract... that's exactly what is IN my contract among many many other things, and what I recommended to Arya if you read my above post, so what's all the ranting about?
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