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Ronald Ponkey

Formal Posing

First I shooot Medium Format Film with san Olympus 20N for Candids and some Photojournalism. However during Pre-Ceremony and Post-Ceremony posing how do you stop the guests from stealing your images with their digital cameras?
I do have a Copyright Clause in my wedding contract which stipulates that only the Photo studo can take pictures during Formal Posing at the church. It is a no win situation at the Park and Reception. My contract stipulates I can leave the wedding if people do not adhere to those rules...I am contemplating asking the Bride and Groom if people do not stop when I advise them to tell the people to cease and do you handle this...??

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1/17/2006 12:39:04 PM

Kerry L. Walker   No one can steal your images unless they get them off your camera but I know what you mean. It may be iritating but there really isn't much you can do except ask everyone to leave the room while you are shooting. Explain that it will speed up the process and let the B&G get to the reception earlier.

If you can't get everyone to leave, just tell them they must not shoot while you are shooting as their flash might interfere with yours and cause your photos to be overexposed.

You could always just walk out but believe me your reputation would suffer immensely.

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1/17/2006 12:50:34 PM

Bob Fately   Ronald, aren't you the guy who just posted the question "what are your thoughts" after pontificating that "digital is far surpassed by film" (or words to that effect)?

So why worry about the digital picture-takers looking over your shoulder? The group SHOULD be looking at you anyway, and the digital qualtiy must be awful based on your other comment.

But the bigger answer is, I believe, this: digital has changed the entire paradigm of wedding shoots. In days of yore, the photographer had the fancy-schmancy gear and the knowledge to produce great looking prints, while AUnt Katie with her Instamatic got junk. So naturally the B&G bought from the shooter, and the business model was "pay me $X for the day plus some pictures, and $Y perprint for the shots you want later" or something to that effect.

I believe that nowadays the only way for a wedding shooter to work is to charge for the day's shoot. CHarge $2X if you want, but do so explaining tot he B&G that at the end of the day they get the film or the files or whatever so their Cousin Timmy (Aunt Katie's kid) can print what and how he wants on the fancy new Epson 1800 he got for CHristmas or whatever. In other words, the model has changed, like it or not.

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1/17/2006 1:08:14 PM

Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
I usually allow family and friends to take a few shots as I move pose to pose.
They are infact part of the wedding and they usually appreciate this opertunity to take a shot they feel is "professional looking" -it never bothers me.
If the Bride and Groom had thought they could have done the job , they would have in fact hired them.
Now there was one time, that I was letting family take pictures and one person got very pushy and demanded I repose them. I said I was sorry ,I had to move on. I can only give a couple mins.
I explained my behaveior to the mother of the Bride, and she said" he's not family he supposed to be our Videoagrapher" On that NOTE, they told him to remove his still camera from the building or go home.
She later told me she had done this saying "it is so nice you welcome our family to partisipate."
Just my thoughts, some things we have to take lightly, because we just can't control it all.

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1/17/2006 1:34:45 PM

Kerry L. Walker   You could always take a .45, lay it on the table and say "If you shoot, I shoot". I guess that is kinda drastic though. lol
I agree with your email. People don't have a lot of respect anymore. Just realize that what they get from their camera, even of your pose, is not going to be of the same quality as yours.
One thing I will do, however, is tell people that I have set up additional flash activated slaves that will go off when they shoot. Considering that I have to let them recycle before I can shoot again, any additional shots by others will only delay my work and delay the B&G getting to the reception. Don't really need to worry about the recycle time but that gets the attention of the B&G and they will usually put a stop to it.

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1/17/2006 2:21:45 PM

Justin G.
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/13/2004
  HAHAHAHAHA that's just too good. I wanna try that down the road when I start! lol. i'm sittin here at work and almost busted out laughing really loud but had to contain myself! you shoot, I shoot!

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1/17/2006 2:28:47 PM

Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  SSHHHHhhh Justin,
your gonna get yourself in trouble!

but I did the same, I saw that and HA,HA ,HA!!!
my nieghbor must wonder what is so darn funny!
and it's only Kerry again,lol,lol

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1/17/2006 2:34:10 PM

BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/7/2005
  I had a lady the week before last actually STAND IN FRONT OF ME! and she took ages like I wasn't even there while she was waiting for her slow camera and the shutter lag. I was so pissed off. The B&G ended up saying, excuse me, you'll have to move, you are in front of the photographer. How RUDE!

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1/17/2006 2:34:29 PM

Kerry L. Walker   "I was so pissed off." Better to be pissed of than pissed on I always say.

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1/17/2006 2:48:03 PM

Tracy Coppock   Embrace the compliment. I never had a problem with others shooting. I always new mine would be better than theirs anyway. Half the time they end up buying yours anyway, right? I used to make an anouncement before starting that you are welcome to take pictures, but please wait till my flash fires first. I take the first one then they can shoot. But what you do is go on up and change something. A veil out of place or a prop that shouldn't be there. Then that does make your photo special. Besides, don't stand around and wait till aunt Betsy gets her shot, move on to the next one. Take charge isn't that what the Bride paid you for?

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1/17/2006 7:32:31 PM

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