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Lisa Carpenter
 

MY EYES!


Ok, here I go venting again. I added a CRT monitor to my Dell laptop in hopes of getting true calibration. It is a really good monitor but it is old, about 3 1/2 years old, a Sony Trinitron. I calibrated and it is just straining my eyes to look at it for too long. Also the font sizes are so doggone small that I have to squint and I have adjusted them to the larger font. The resolution on this monitor is 1600x1200 32-bit. Should I just go an get a newer one that is a flat CRT and better resolution? Am I not adjusting my settings right? If I should get a new monitor, which one is best for editing photos?
thanks, Lisa


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December 01, 2005

 

Brendan Knell
  About the small font size, try lowering your screen resolution. Right now I'm using 1024x768. This should make everything bigger, and that may reduce the strain on your eyes.


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December 02, 2005

 

David M
  check the "refresh frequency" (control panel, display, "monitor" tab, advanced) and make sure it is at least 85 Hertz, otherwise the flicker will make your eyes tired too.


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December 02, 2005

 

Lisa Carpenter
  Wow guys...that helped a good bit, a real good bit....but still am fine tuning. Also, don't I need the really high resolution? I lowered it and wow, my eyes are not screaming anymore, but will that be ok for editing?

thanks a bunch! Lisa


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December 02, 2005

 

Brendan Knell
  I don't think that it would make too much of a difference, but if you do notice a difference, then maybe just up it a little bit while editing.


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December 02, 2005

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  Saw a computer show last night and monitors should be set at native resolution. Anything else and the pictures suffers. Also found out(future reference) that 17inch flats are better than 19inch because 19&17inch have the same res, but making it 19inch makes the pictures look grainier.
And also found out you can save money(few hundred $) by using two 17inch screens and an extra video card instead of one real big screen that some people need for illustration jobs. Get better looking screen too.


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December 02, 2005

 

Lisa Carpenter
  What is native resolution?


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December 03, 2005

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  Just another way of saying the res that the monitor was really intended for. Best way I know of saying it.
Like a monitor that's made 1000x800 can display at different res if you want it to, but it's not going to look as good at anything other than 1000x800.
I use a flat screen now and when I first hooked it up, everything was squashed looking, edges were funny looking, until I set it to 1280x1024.


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December 03, 2005

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  Native res is res a monitor displays without converting the signal. Also says crt tv's can have more than one without conversion, but flat screen tv's only have one native res.


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December 03, 2005

 

Lisa Carpenter
  Hi Gregory...silly question...but if someone gave me this older but really nice monitor..how do I know what the native resolution is?


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December 03, 2005

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  Have any menu buttons or anything that adjust color, brightest,stuff like that on the monitor?
If not, look at control panel in the settings of the computer and see what's in monitor display that you can change. If you have a mac, I don't know where it would be.


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December 03, 2005

 

Lisa Carpenter
  Yes, I knew how to change, but I was wondering how you would know what the native resolution is? The one that is meant to be best for the monitor......


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December 03, 2005

 

David M
  on my 19" trinitron, I run 1280x960. Any higher and everthing is too small. Lower resolution is not a bad thing, you just won't have as much real estate... you can view/edit pics just fine though. If you have a 17" monitor, 1024x768 is a good setting. just try different settings via the windows control panel.


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December 03, 2005

 

Lisa Carpenter
  thank you so much, I will give it a go!


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- Gregory LaGrange

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  My monitor has menu button, push that shows the resolution of 1024x1280. Went to control panel and set the display as the same. That's how I did it. If nothing's there to show you the res of the monitor(maybe check properties) then do what David M. said.J


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December 03, 2005

 

Lisa Carpenter
  Yepper...I think I got it....but tell me, why is it now that I have attached at CRT to my laptop, I feel like I have to squint to see some things, wereas on my laptop, it seemed so easy to see.....But I have the settings adjusted...getting closer:)


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December 03, 2005

 

Brendan Knell
  Check and see what you had your laptops screen set at and change your CRT to that. If that doesn't help, just try lowering the resolution a little more.


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- Gregory LaGrange

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  Anything in control panel to adjust the display size?


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December 03, 2005

 

Lisa Carpenter
  I think it is on my menu button on the monitor...do I need to make the width and height the same?


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December 03, 2005

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  Seems like what ever makes it fit full screen. You sure 1600x1200 is the right res for that monitor? Seems like if it was old it wouldn't be that high yet.


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December 04, 2005

 

Lisa Carpenter
  I pushed the menu button and saw 1280x1024 and 85 Hz...I assume that is the native resolution? It can have a max of 1600x1200 but oh my eyes and headaches....I think I am getting it to where it needs to be. So if too high of a resolution is not easy on the eyes..is there any reason to purchase the newest and latest CRT?


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December 04, 2005

 

Jay A. Grantham
  LCD Monitors have a native resolution.. the quality of the monitor is typically reflected in that resolution. For instance, many cheap 15" LCD will have a native res of 800x600.. but you will pay a pretty penny for a 1600x1200 of the same size. A "good" CRT can look good at many different resolutions, controlable by the vid card/control panel.
The higher resolution, the more screen space (and smaller everything is).. but as was mentioned above.. a couple of the middle of the road LCD monitors are probably more cost effective than one large high quality LCD... same goes for CRTs.
CRT monitors do degrade with time.. I know by experience, not science.
A monitor with resolution of 800x600 will be able to show half as much stuff on the screen at one time as the same size monitor with a res of 1600x1200. That is why it it easier to work with things like image editing programs in a higher resolution.. you get to see more stuff at one time.
Typically 17" CRT monitors are comfortable around 1024x768.

*disclaimer* I'm not implying that any thing anyone said here is incorrect, not am I saying that I know more about any subject than anyone else.. just my opinion from experience.


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December 04, 2005

 

Lisa Carpenter
  Hi Jay, do you think the monitor my friend gave me, Sony Trinitron 420GS...a few years old, is still ok? The images seem to be really good, but I wonder if it could be better? thanks a bunch.


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December 04, 2005

 

Brendan Knell
  Lisa, if it was a decent moniter to start with, and it was treated ok, then it should still be good. I'm using a 6 year old HP M70 and it's still working fine.


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December 04, 2005

 

Jay A. Grantham
  I'm surrounded by old monitors.. so my answer would be yes.

Especially since you said you were able to calibrate it.

I don't ususally buy new monitors till they just don't work anymore.. I guess that is why I haven't switched over to LCD for my desktops.. the old CRTs are doing just fine.


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December 04, 2005

 

Brendan Knell
  Besides from the HP that I mentioned on our family computer, I have a Dell Trinitron that's probably about 4-5 years old. My grandma is using a 4-5 year old one also. So like Jay said we also don't upgrade untill they just don't work, and they're still doing just fine.


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December 04, 2005

 

Lisa Carpenter
  Alas...something I don't need to spend money on....thanks for the responses..they helped!


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December 04, 2005

 

Christopher A. Vedros
  Lisa,
Are you using Windows? If so, you usually don't need to set the screen resolution on the monitor itself. You set the resolution in the display settings in Windows.

I agree with a few others above who said that on a 17" monitor, go with 1024x768, and on a 19" monitor, use 1280x1024. Also, the refresh rate is very important for reducing eye strain.

Chris


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  If you saw 1280x1024, set that in the settings window in display in the control panel.A


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December 04, 2005

 

Lisa Carpenter
  Fabulous...thanks so much!!! Now I just need to tackle the PSCS2 learning curve. I have been on Elements 3.0 for a good while and mastered that, bit the bullet and went with the big one and well, more stuff to learn:)
thanks for your help.

Lisa


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December 05, 2005

 

Phillip Corcoran
  "Native Resolution" applies only to LCD/TFT monitors, not to CRT monitors. A CRT monitor can display with equal sharpness at any resolution that's allowed by the video-card, whereas an LCD monitor has a 'sweet spot' native resolution which gives the sharpest picture -- for a 17" LCD this is usually 1280 x 1024. At any other setting it will be less sharp.


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December 10, 2005

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  We answered that already


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