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Vicki L. Filippin
 

Photgraphing Clear Bottles


 
 
i'm doing a product shoot with all but 2 of the bottles being white, the other 2 are clear with a transparent liquid in them. The client wants a black background on them all and I just can't seem to get the lighting right. Can anyone help me? I'm using a Fuji Finepix S7000. Examples included....THANKS


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October 23, 2005

 

Melissa L. Zavadil
  For product shoots you would be better off with softboxes or a product tent that diffuses the light. I am by far not an expert but I have done products in tents and it works fairly well at reducing the hot spots.


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October 23, 2005

 

Pete H
  Just a idea Vicki, in case you don't have a softbox or light tent.
In a pinch; you can make your own diffused light source. (i.e) Tent.

In outdoor light, simply isolate your bottles under a white sheet, or something similar. You will probably also have to use the same material to construct the walls of the tent. It may not be pretty, but it does work.

Essentially; you want to shoot down a "tunnel" with your subject at the end of that tunnel. Make sure to tripod mount the camera.

If you really want to expand your expertise, try photographing a round reflective Christmas ornament. It is not easy to shoot it without seeing all the surrounding environment, but it is doable. :) Great learning excercise.

Remember; clear glass objects will pick up the color they sit upon.

Some photogs will "prop" a difficult object so it "floats" in mid air, (hung by monofiliment) etc...thereby eliminating and transferance of color to the bottom of the bottle in your case.

Strobes are usabable and can indeed be controlled, but with more difficulty.
If you shoot natural light, with the "tent" idea, you can more easily eliminate these "specular" reflections.

Hope that helps a little,

May Your Light Be Pure,

Pete


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October 23, 2005

 

Vicki L. Filippin
  Thanks, Melissa...unfortunately I don't have that kind of equipment being that i'm just starting out and doing this as a favor. Any suggestions on how I can accomplish the same effect on the cheap? In the future, i'll be sure to be more prepared.


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October 23, 2005

 

Vicki L. Filippin
 
Thanks, Pete....EXCELLENT ideas and options on the cheap! I'll work on that tomorrow first thing! YOU ROCK!


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October 23, 2005

 

Pete H
 
 
 
Vicki,
I'm not sure the effect you're after, but I just took a quick shot of a bottle on a light table. This bottle is only lit from the bottom. The dark upper edges are my mistake as I forgot to turn the lights off in my room.

The light table is nothing more than a small overhead fluorescent light with the diffusing material already included with the fixture.
Just be sure to white balance if you use the same. The fixture cost about 15 dollars. It can be used for many other photo projects as well.


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October 23, 2005

 

Pete H
  Didn't know I was running so low on Musk..Better get some more..photographers should smell nice. LOL


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October 23, 2005

 

Vicki L. Filippin
  The problem i'm having, pete, is that the client wants ALL the products to be on a black background and thos 2 bottles have writing on front AND back...i just can't seem to get a decent shot without it looking "messy", so to speak....hmmmm
And yes, we should ALL smell good! have you tried Victoria Secret's "Very Sexy for men? It's the # one choice of woment these days according to Cosmo mag....LOL...smells AMAZING! :-)


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October 23, 2005

 

Bob Cammarata
  Try two 20" x 30" sheets of black posterboard.
The product sits on one board, the other is propped up behind it.
Set this up outside on a cloudy day for even light with no shadows.


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October 24, 2005

 

Pete H
  Ahhh...on a black background. Now that is a horse of a different color. (sorry, couldn't resist.) :)

If the writing on the bottles is dark, it will be a tuff assignment without "snoot" lights.

Black posterboard may work, but I've found posterboard somewhat reflective. A black velvet material will work better..more like a "light trap."

I'll try to come up with some work-arounds for you today.

Most good product photography is ingenuity more than straight photography. (i.e) ..milk on cereal photos is not milk, elmers glue actually.

Pete


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October 24, 2005

 

Vicki L. Filippin
  Thanks, Bob, for your input on my dillema. I had thought about the poster board option, too, but did that once before with something else and got refletion that I didn't get on the black velvet i'm currently using, althought I didn't try either option outside...BRRRR, it's chilly here today, but i'll try both today and see what happens.


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October 24, 2005

 

Vicki L. Filippin
  Hi Pete~
Yes, the writing on both sides of the bottle are dark, if you can't tell from the pics I submitted with the original question. Maybe I should ask for more $$$ with this kind of challenge...lol


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October 24, 2005

 

Vicki L. Filippin
  Hey Pete~
Your suggestion for the tent thing only makes reference to white fabric. My client wants uniformity of black background on all the individual shots for the web. For the group shot, for brochure use, she wants a lighter bakground, so I can use the white. How or will the tent option work with the black?


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October 24, 2005

 

Pete H
  Vicki,

I think the tent option will still work; however, glass reflects everything around it...including a back environment.
You may have to light the product from the bottom.
Some Adobe magic will work wonders here.
Are you familiar with clipping paths?

For your uniform black backgrounds, can I assume the bottle is to be surrounded in black?

Pete


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October 24, 2005

 

Vicki L. Filippin
  Hi Pete~
I am not familiar with clipping paths...teach me, oh wise one! :-)
And yes, like the first pic I posted, they want the bottles surrounded in black, except for when I do the full grouping, then they want a lighter colored background. I've not had any problems with the other bottles, those pics turned out really nice, but those clear ones with the writing have been the challenge. arrrgghhh


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October 24, 2005

 
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