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David M
 

Same JPG Printed at 3 vendors, 3 diff results!


 
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I have been using Shutterfly for a while for all my prints. Recently I decided to test out a couple alternatives to compare quality. I sent the same .jpg's to each vendor and was very disturbed to find their prints varied wildly...mostly in color hue.
The three vendors are Shutterfly, Imagestation, and Ritz/Wolf camera (I picked em up) All used the same Fuji paper.

Shouldn't they calibrate their printers? Shouldn't I expect the SAME jpg to be printed with the same colors from each print vendor? Now I wonder if all the prints I have had made in the past could have been better. I also wonder if I sent the same jpg's to the same vendors again, would they have equally inconsistant results...


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October 04, 2005

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  You're disturbed, I'm shocked and amazed.
Actually that's no different than sending the same negative to different places. Nothing new about that.


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October 04, 2005

 

Pete H
  Typical at the 1 hr places.
If you are concerned about accurate color rendition, you'll have to go to a pro lab and submit a guide print.

Pete


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October 04, 2005

 

anonymous
  This is why I do all my colour correcting etc at home, and just go and print at a fuji lab (they don't colour correct). That way what I see on the screen is probably about 95% right on what I will receive from the lab. Obviously my computer is not calibrated to the fuji lab, but considering the little difference involved, I am more than happy with the outcome.


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October 04, 2005

 

David M
  bottom line questions:
Is it unreasonable to expect the colors to be consistant among different labs?

We are talking digital here, if the numerical representation of the pixel calls for red, shouldn't I expect red?

Do/can the Labs calibrate their equipment to some standard?


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October 05, 2005

 

Christopher A. Vedros
  David,
I'm not saying that it's unreasonable to expect several labs to be calibrated to the same standard, but I think it's unlikely. Expecially if they use different brands of equipment, there will likely be some subtle differences in the prints at least.

I think it's a much more reasonable expectation that a lab will keep its equipment calibrated on a regular basis, so that you can expect to get consistent prints each time you use them. Once you find a lab that gives you results that you are happy with, you should test them by sending the same test file along with your first 3 or 4 orders. Then you will be able to see if they can provide consistent results.


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October 05, 2005

 
- Gregory LaGrange

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  If it was all based on numerical representation, why would you need to calibrate.
Shocking and amazing.


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October 05, 2005

 

David M
  There is plenty of discussion on this website regarding taking pictures... but I am surprised people are not experiencing the issues I have seen with getting accurate prints from a vendor.

Where are you all getting good, consistant, expected results at?

(no, I don't want to print my own.. :0)


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October 10, 2005

 

Christopher A. Vedros
  David,
I have been using mpix.com for a long time now, and I have never been disappointed with a print from them. I've never done any high-tech calibration on my monitor. When I first received prints from them, I adjusted the brightness and color temp on my monitor until the image on the screen closely matched the prints. Now I know that I will get what I expect from them.

BTW, when I order from them, I don't select the option to have them do color correction. I do my corrections myself.

You don't need to be calibrated to some international standard, you just need a way of being able to predict your results.


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October 10, 2005

 

David M
  I have noticed that shutterfly has the "vivid pics" option which, like you say, "enhances" my pics before they print em. Good idea to turn options like that off, thanks.

I think I will send the same jpg's to be printed from the same vendors again to make sure they are at least consistant with themselves.

I will try mpix too.


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October 10, 2005

 

Michelle Ross
  unless each lab is calibrated to your equipment and monitor there is not way to guarantee they will look the same from each place. . I used to order everything from snapfish .. . and then I found MPix. .. ahhhh heaven . .. I ordered a print from snapfish and Mpix and the color was absolutely awful and faded at snapfish and beautiful and deep just like my monitor from MPix. . . 1 hour photo places use a "basic color scheme" and so if you do any editing often times it doesn't recognize the changes you made or simply corrects them because they look "wrong" . . . I have also had prints printed at a good lab that looked very warm and dark compared to MPix. .. so yes there are differences from lab to lab and probably from store to store(ex. one walmart vs. another walmart). I personally would try MPix . . . they are awesome . . and even though the shipping is a flat $4.95 I found they had better prices than alot of places on the prints. . . you won't be disappointed!


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