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Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 

SUDIO PHOTOGRAPHY CONTINUED PART 4


studio Photography part 4-Yes there are 3 other parts:

part1:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=17534
Part 2:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=18585

Part3:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=19127

Why is this thread so long?
there are wonderful people here sharing through questions and answers how to get started in Protrait Photography and they'er having fun doing it.
If we don't have your answer we will try to find it for you- so join in, every one is welcome.


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10/2/2005 3:16:08 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
PROPS:
THERE ARE A FEW PROPS I WILL POST PICTURES OF THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE IN STUDIO AND CAN MAKE WITH OUT BUYING THEM.:SMALL STOOLS, POSING BLOCKS , SMALL CHAIRS.
HERE IS THE FIRST-LAURA CALLED EARLY THIS MORNING ABOUT CHRISTMAS STUFF- SHE GOT A LOT OF WONDERFUL THINGS AT MICHELES- HERE IS THE SLIEGH I TOLD HER ABOUT.


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10/2/2005 3:19:26 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
HERE'S MORE.


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10/2/2005 3:40:31 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Hi I'm here!!! :)


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10/2/2005 3:41:33 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
SMALL CHAIRS- DO THE SAME AS THE STOOLS


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10/2/2005 3:48:17 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Okay I'm here too . .. Thanks for the new thread. .. I am getting swamped. .. I am happy ..but a bit overwhelmed. . . I've had 3 calls for Thanksgiving weekend and unfortunately cannot fit everyone in .. . they are for family shot(bigger groups) .. . one group will be about 10 people . . . and the other could be with 20 people . .. I don't do good with large groups . . . as I always worry about everyone being in focus and if I have to bump the aperature to like f11 or so then worry about the light . .. these will be outdoor(weather permitting) and I have an accessory flash that mounts to my camera. .. how wide do these flashes go and would one of those lumisphere light things work effectively?? I did the little kids volleyball and football and they were like 16 and 25 people and it was outdoors but had more sunlight then these might have. .. I don't want it to look like my flash hits the middle people and then the edge people be dark . . .


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10/2/2005 5:20:20 PM

 
Michelle Andersson
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/30/2004
  Hey Guys!

I just finished my hair shoot this afternoon. I posted a couple of shots from it and am pretty happy with them.
Thanks for all the lighting help!

Michelle R. what kind of lights do you have? Debbie directed me to, I think it was, thread 2 (look about halfway through the thread). There was some talk about lighting a large group. I'm doing a group this Thursday myself and needed a bit of help. :)


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10/2/2005 6:48:32 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
 
 
  Studio & Wardrobe
Studio & Wardrobe
© Liza M. Franco
Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
  Wardrobe
Wardrobe
© Liza M. Franco
 
 
Hey Everyone, thought since we are on the subject of props, I'd post some photos of those saloon girl outfits I had been working on. The dark red one shows the ties down the back that I had mentioned in Part 3. These will help make clothes fit various sizes. Ugh, these really look a lot better on a person than they do hanging on hangers. The purple and red dress were both thrift store finds that I cut down the back and added lace and hem tap to make them look closer to what I needed. By themselves they are just ok. But, add a feather boa, some fishnet stockings, pearls, garter, choker and a hat and voila, you have a saloon girl. The point is, sometimes its the accessories and props that complete the look. The great thing about those old time photos is that I turn them into Sepia colored prints so the colors of the accessories don't even have to match.

The wardrobe shot gives a little bit of a glimpse of my studio. I use an old card rack (left) to hang hats. On the right you can see one of those big red utility hooks which hold extra fabric throws. I also have others which you can't see that hold feather boas, pearls, etc.

Thrift stores are a great place to find props. Wooden crates, little chairs like Debby's. You would be surprised what a coat of paint can do for thrift store items. I love to recycle and see what I can create.

Quilt batting will work if you need some fake snow. You can also buy bags of fake snow flakes that are made to go on a christmas tree.


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10/2/2005 6:54:13 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Hi Michelle A. I use a 3 light set from Novatron . .. two lights I can adjust at -1 or full .. .and my powerpack I can adjust from 500 to 250 . .. it works great for individuals and I Think it will work good for small groups ...but I'm still learning the large group thing and I just don't do it very often so not alot of practice. ..


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10/2/2005 7:14:30 PM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Just checking in with everyone, I am still around but stupid computer is quite literally on the blink and we are in dire need of a new one..... lottery win please...LOL
Anyway I am still practicing and trying to put my spare room in order for my studio. Still got stuff to buy but as for thrift store find I went the other day and found two really cute but different small rocking chairs, sooooo happy and so is sophie! Also bought a foam ottoman from target on sale, I just love target!!!!! I will check in tomorrow, 'desperate housewives' on in ten minutes and cannot be missed.... see ya..


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10/2/2005 8:33:15 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Liza,
I have been dying to see those,lol
and they are every bit as beautiful as they sounded.
you are just so talented!!


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10/2/2005 9:08:26 PM

 
Ruben L. Wade
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/2/2005
  Hi Guys! Ready to listen and Learn!


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10/3/2005 1:16:03 AM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
  hi everyone, still here, and still learning...thank you debby for the comments and the graph. It took me reading it a couple times, but I think I got it! Also, i'm to poor to buy props, so thanks for the ideas of what I can make...any ideas for posing chair and table? I will re-submit when I re-shoot. thanks...connie


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10/3/2005 7:00:42 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  I would also like to at least know a source for a posing table. . .I use a little kids table now that works okay but it doesnt' go up very high . .. the posing blocks look great ... and Betsy .. . Ihad your email saved in my mail box and now it is gone .. . you had some posing blocks that you made is that right??


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10/3/2005 7:31:07 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
GOOD MORNING!!
Not to get off the subject of props- but I just wanted to post this couples approvel set: tradtional, fun(casual) and dramitic lighting.
This was done during a Church Function-A couples night out.
As a training session for RL WADE INC.
using a 3 light system, Canon 20D and never touching the settings of: 200/f22.
This was a wonderful event and Rubens Company is growing really fast-
hey I need Photographers!!! if your in So.CAl we may have a place for you.


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10/3/2005 8:12:22 AM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  Hey Everyone...

I went Garage Selling this weekend...hmm...what weekend do I NOT go? Speaking of props, I picked up a tricycle, an old tattered suitcase, a mini john deer tractor, some tulle, an old Mother Goose book, and some other stuff for under $10! I love GS :). I am kicking myself, because I saw a pillar that would have looked great for prom, or gala, or whatever for $20. But being the cheapskate I am, I didn't get it! Like I said, I am kicking myself! Anyway, hope y'all had a good weekend.


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10/3/2005 10:35:04 AM

 
Betsy Labuschagne
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2005
  Hey Everyone!!

I can't believe you've started a fourth thread...just wanted to say that I have had to do some catching up, and that it looks great!! You are all doing so well!!


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10/3/2005 10:35:54 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  BESTY!!! HI! How have YOU been doing? I can't find anywhere where you may have posted the dimensions and/or photos of your posing boxes? I can use Debby's, too, but you had mentioned loving yours, so I wanted to check it out! LET ME KNOW!


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10/3/2005 10:48:42 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  BETSY, YEAHHHHH!!!! WELCOME BACK!!!!
WE WERE WONDERING ABOUT YOU -LAURA AND I WERE TALKING THIS WEEKEND AND I SAID YOU WERE MOST LIKELY REALLY BUSY-AND POOF THERE YOU ARE-
CYNDEE,
THOSE ARE SOME REAL FINDS- NOW ASK THE HUSBAND OR BOYFRIEND TO LOCK THE WHEELS ON ANY TRIKES AND WAGONS FOR SAFTEY SAKE AND SO THAT THE CHILD CAN NOT TAKE OFF ON YA.


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10/3/2005 10:49:31 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  MY BOXES ARE FOR FEET ALONE .
BETSY HAS TABLE TYPE POSING BOXES.
YES, A FEW PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ABOUT THOSE BETSY.


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10/3/2005 10:51:14 AM

 
Betsy Labuschagne
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2005
  I know Iíve been quiet, but have been following. Too much technical info, Iím really not to clued up, thatís why Iím just following!

I just want to post a note to Sandy from the previous thread. When I did my first newborn baby shoot, I really didnít think it went well and showed it to my mother-in-law to get her opinion. She really thought I had done a good job and raved about them. Then she told me to tell the mother when she comes to collect her pictures that her baby is absolutely gorgeous and so photogenic and that I am really happy with the way her portraits turned out. I tried it, and have been doing it since. You have to show the customer that you are confident that you did your best and are happy with the results. It really works, try it, even if you do see mistakes. I have done a few newborn baby shoots since and really look at them as practice for me. I thought they would be the easiest, but they are the hardest for me.

Laura, Iím sorry that you never received the info on the boxes, I did e-mail you: http://jzportraits.home.att.net/, (an example of the boxes is in chapter 10). Hope this helps.

I finally had a little girl over the weekend (after two months), and did my fairy theme with her. She turned two over the weekend, and just loved posing! Please have a look in my gallery and tell me what you think!


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10/3/2005 12:16:36 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Thanks, Betsy! I checked out that link. There's A LOT of information there! THANKS!! GREAT to have you back!

HEY! I have a NEW question!! What do y'all use to present finished prints to your clients and/or give them to protect their photos?? I just finished placing that order and want to make sure I have something nice/protective for her prints when I give them to her! Thanks for any ideas you can give me!


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10/3/2005 12:26:46 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Betsy,
these are really cute!!!
I am glad you are having a good time.
What your mother in law told you is called "romancing" and yes it is a VERY good practice to learn.
In your eyes as you show a set- there should be nothing that you can't overcome with a positive.
if a baby has it's little fist shoved in her mouth and you missed it and took the shot- well then it's " oh look in this one you can see that she was teething- what a time to remember.
and it is-Mom's with new borns want to remember everything about that baby.
etc.
as usual Betsy GReat Job.


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10/3/2005 12:27:59 PM

 
Sandy Landon
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/24/2005
  Betsy, thanks for the words of encouragement. I was really nervous so she probably sensed that and responded in return...I know I need to be more confident with my work, I just struggle with that since I just started doing this. Your fairy pictures are great. And of course, thanks Debby for the pep talk. I did my homework and sent you an e-mail with the results!! You guys are great!!


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10/3/2005 2:37:03 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Debby T,

Where did you find the sleigh you show above. I'm looking for one right now. Thanks for all of the ideas on props - I need to hop on over to Michael's!!

I can't believe how fast this thread moves. Everytime I turn around, I have like 50 new postings to catch up on!!!

Good going guys!


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10/3/2005 3:44:35 PM

 
Angela K. Harter  
 
 
going off the subject of props for a moment:) I know a few of you saw the picture of my son I did at a Vietnam Memorial the other day and now i'm going to enter that into a contest at a local festival we hold every year....my question is do I put a caption on it? it can be matted but not framed and I didn't know if I should put one on the mat or not for a contest....i also have a collage i'm going to enter I think also; same question there too....i have never entered anything in a contest like this so just want to make sure I do it right! I will post the pics again so you who maybe didn't see it can and will add the collage.... I guess another question would be do I mat them or leave them and if I do mat them how do you do that without a frame to hold it in place without ruining the picture? lots of questions huh?:) again, just want to make sure I get it right!


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10/3/2005 3:55:50 PM

 
Angela K. Harter  
 
 
here they are.....


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10/3/2005 3:57:28 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  GREAT images! I only have one picky little issue on the collage. Something that bothers me about a lot of photos I see...can you just do a horizontal flip on the images of the American Flag? It's not supposed to ever appear in reverse. Just something that caught my eye and might sway a patriotic or veteran judge.


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10/3/2005 4:17:57 PM

 
Angela K. Harter   I NEVER KNEW THAT! wow...thanks for letting me know....hope it's not too late to stop my order:)


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10/3/2005 4:22:44 PM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
  wow...this thread moves so fast, I feel like a slacker!!
debby-just had to tell you I love the approval collage-its beautiful.
Connie


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10/3/2005 4:27:31 PM

 
Angela K. Harter   o.k. another question....is there a way to flip just those pictures or do I have to re-do it all?


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10/3/2005 4:28:16 PM

 
Angela K. Harter   figured it out! now I just have to figure out were to get another 11x14 on mat board by wens....does anyone know of a place that will do that and look good...i usually use mpix but hate to pay the over night fee again:)


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10/3/2005 4:39:24 PM

 
Angela K. Harter  
 
 
here it is with flags in other direction....thank you again for letting me know that....


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10/3/2005 4:45:35 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Looks great! You're very welcome! I hadn't realized you had already placed and received your order. I know mpix and prolabexpress, both will do overnight, plus a day for the mounting, so I'd get your order in tonight to try and get it by Wed if you can't find another solution! Sorry to put a monkey wrench in your plan!!!


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10/3/2005 5:00:34 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  SOOOOOO.... Anyone got a solution for presentation/protection of client's photos? Folder? Folio? Envelope? HELP! What should I use and where can I find it??


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10/3/2005 5:31:11 PM

 
Angela K. Harter   the only thing I have seen is those books on mpix....i was wondering the same though! I haven't got too many jobs yet so I have just been using folders but they don't look very nice:(


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10/3/2005 5:38:19 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Thanks, Angela. It's always those little details, isn't it? Never thought about it until she gave me her order and I said to myself...so what am I going to do, just give her a handful of prints??? Of course not! I just haven't found a solution, yet. I'll scour the web tonight to see what I can find.

Debby? Liza? Betsy? Melissa? Michelle? WHERE ARE YOU?????


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10/3/2005 5:47:09 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Honey,
just go get some white large envelopes and put them between 2 pieces of thin cardboard.
that's what I do.
sometimes, hallmark will have album boxes.
hope this helps, i'm off again


Oh thank you Connie for the knd words,your so weet:-)


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10/3/2005 6:07:56 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Thanks Debby! I'll have to try that. I didn't know if I needed a special type of paper for the envelope for photos. The orders from mpix and prolabexpress come with cardboard, and I think a paper sleeve, almost like tissue paper or wax paper without the wax. I could just use what they send me for now I suppose! Less overhead costs! I really like that approval collage, too, by the way!! I missed it when trying to catch up! What a great way to show them!


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10/3/2005 6:46:54 PM

 

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  Laura,

I use the plastic sleeve/baggies that prolabexpress sends with my prints.

I bought merchandise bags from uline and I have 6x9 and 10x13 white envelopes.

I also use 3x4 poly bags.

I receive my order and put all 4x6's in one prolabexpress "baggie", all 5x7's in another and all 8x10's in another. I then put my small prints in a 6x9 white envelope and my 8x10's in a 10x13 envelope.

I put my all of my wallets in the recloseable poly bags (each pose in a seperate wallet) and stick them in a seperate 6x9 white envelope.

I then stick all of the white envelopes in a merchandise bag and then give that to the client. I usually stick a piece of 8.5x11 cardboard from prolab in that bag so nothing bends.

If they order an 11x14, I stick that in a it's own merchandise bag and stick it on the 11x14 cardboard from prolab so it doesn't bend as well. I hand the client this piece of cardboard with their bag of pictures on top.

I have two different sizes of merchandise bags in case they don't order an 8x10.

I know it sounds like a lot of work, but it's really not and I have had a lot of people comment on how nicely protected and how organized everything is.

I'm just one of those people though, I don't want anything going out with my name on it that doesn't look perfect.

I also put a brochure and pricelist in every sack. Even if it's their order sack and they have already gotten one. I think you just can't get your name out there enough.

It's just what works for me.

:)

amber


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10/3/2005 7:34:35 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Trying to go back in order of questions.

Ok, for Angie. I owned a custom picture framing business for about 12 years, so I have a few answers for your matting question. Since your photos are black and white, you could go with white, black or gray for matting. I always tend to go with black. I think it creates great contrast and draws your eye into the photo. You want to get a second piece of matboard the same size as your outer dimensions of your mat with the opening. Usually I would recommend acid free matboard and mounting tape, but not everyone has this at their disposal. Here is the easiest way to center your photo. Lay photo on the table picture side facing up. Cut two pieces of tape about 1" long and place them diagonally on the top corners so that the sticky side is facing up. Don't use Scotch Magic tape because it is made to be removable and won't hold. Lay your mat with the opening, over the top and press down where the tape is. Only apply tape to the two top corners. If you want added security you can add a small piece to the top edge. It is done this way so that if there is ever any moisture near the photo it won't buckle. Flip the mat and photo over and apply 2" long strips of double stick tape around the outer perimeter of the mat board, being careful not to get it on the photo. Now lay your second piece of matboard down on top of the photo and first mat. It is best to put the white side of the mat board closest to the photo always because it is buffered to be pH neutral.

The second option is to use Photoshop to create the look of a matted photo. Say you want an 11x14 outer dimension. Start with a blank page and fill it with the color you would like the mat to be. Next drag your photo over onto it and size it down to fit proportionately. Now you can make it look like the mat is on top or the photo is floating above the mat. Both look really nice. I won't go into detail on that unless you or someone else is interested in those instructions.

Ok Laura's turn. Hey Laura, I do mine the same way as Debby does. If I have a really large order, I will get a gift box and wrap the top and bottom separately, then place the photos inside with tissue paper just like a gift. If there are different size photos, I place each different size in a separate envelope below the larger ones. I like the bigger ones to be the first thing they see when the open the tissue paper, instead of an envelope. I've seen people then go the extra mile and place that in a gift bag filled with tissue paper and the studio logo on the outside of the bag. It is very impressive looking and I think a nice gesture for a wedding customer. I have started doing this on the bigger packages. The response has been really good. The other idea behind doing this is that they then have a gift bag that they may carry around as they show off their photos and other people will see your studio name and spread the word.

Oh, I'm on a roll here... If you are going to slide your photos into an envelope, it is best to sandwich them between the two pieces of cardboard before sliding them into the envelope. This will ensure that if the are glossy they won't get any scratches from sliding. Just a habit I've gotten into, not a big fan of working with glossy.


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10/3/2005 8:40:30 PM

 
Angela K. Harter   thank you!


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10/4/2005 5:34:14 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  THANKS LADIES! That's what I was looking for! I wanted something to set me apart from my competition. So where do you get the merchandise bags and poly bags? I like the idea of wrapping them. I always said when I got a business I'd do that with tissue, ribbon and a thank you sticker. I've always been so impressed by small businesses that do that. Great ideas. I think I know what to do! THANKS!


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10/4/2005 7:17:32 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  One person who I saw do this had matching bags in all different sizes. They were a simple stripe design with green stripes in a darker and lighter green. Her's actually had the logo printed on the bags. You can go the cheaper route (like me) and print your studio logo or name and info on the really large labels and adhear them to the bag. I go to party supply stores and find bags that I like and buy a bunch. I think the advantage to doing it the way the other lady did is that the bag starts to become known around town if you keep it the same. Kind of like Georgio or Saks. Which is a great idea if you can find one design you like and buy bulk. My mood changes too often to go with just one design. I have a name for a poly bag supplier can't think of it righ now, I'll have to get back to you with that info.


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10/4/2005 9:24:25 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I checked out uline.com and they have just about everything. But I can't afford to do that right now. So for now, I'll go to a party discount store and piece it together. I really want to make this look nice and I know exactly what I want to do now. I think I'm going to do a black gift bag with white tissue and either gold or silver ribbon or raffia and a silver foil Thank You sticker. Nothing TOO over the top, but something nice that they'll remember and want to show off. Thanks everyone for your great ideas! They really got the ideas flowing and made me think my original plan from long ago was spot-on! THANKS!!


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10/4/2005 9:50:38 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
www.albumsinc.com is a wonderful source for EVERYTHING you need. .. they have poly bags, folios, delivery boxes, bags, just everything . .. You can request a catalog and it is packed full of stuff.

I just ordered some postcards from vistaprint to promote my baby's first year package . . . here's what it looks like . . . I also did a senior one but didn't order those yet.


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10/4/2005 9:50:49 AM

 
Angela K. Harter   those look really nice!


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10/4/2005 10:06:26 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Michelle!

THANKS!! I'll have to check out albumnsinc.com!!

Those are GREAT! I've been printing my own here at home, but am quickly realizing that the cost of ink, paper and time are not worth doing it myself! I need to start ordering postcards! I'll have to check out vistaprint, too.


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10/4/2005 10:48:31 AM

 

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I have never checked out vistaprint's prices, but when I mailed out my senior flyer this year, I actually designed it as a 4x6 and then printed it as a picture from the lab.

That way, I was sending a postcard and a sample all at the same time. I also enclosed a brochure, but those are just black and white for now.

Here's my senior flyer, I am working on a children, family, wedding, baby, engagement, yada, yada, yada.

I like to mail them out with info packets when people call.

amber


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10/4/2005 10:56:51 AM

 

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I hate it when I forget to sign in....

aarrgghh!


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10/4/2005 10:57:52 AM

 

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one more time.


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10/4/2005 11:05:20 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Great Flyer Amber. . . the 4 x 6 is a great idea too . . . I may rework mine into a 4 x 6 so I have that option as well as the postcards! Will the 4 x 6 mail at postcard rates?


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10/4/2005 11:12:09 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Oh here is a link to the vistaprint . .. they have a special going on right now with 100 postcards free. . if you upload your own image it's $3.74 added on plus the shipping . . . I got 100 postcards for around $9.00 which included the shipping . . .I just ordered the minimum until I make sure they look good . . . I think the offer is over 10/15/05

http://www.vistaprint.com/vipsale


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10/4/2005 11:14:01 AM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  Hey Guys,
Another really cheap and great place to get stuff like that from is www.michelcompany.com. They are awesome at customer service and products are 50% retail for pros.
Cyndee ><>


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10/4/2005 11:20:07 AM

 
Tina Edwards
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/12/2005
  Hello, Just checking in. I have finally caught up on all the threads. Everyones portraits are looking great.

I am not much of a talker on this thread but I have learned so much just from reading, and I know if I ever need help this is the place to get it. You all are so informative. I haven't had any sessions lately, but am trying to convince a lady to let me do her maternity portrait. I have never done maternity and would like it for my folio.


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10/4/2005 1:10:38 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I just got another Maternity booking!!! The Nurse/Mid-Wife at my OB/Gyn's office!!! She also wants me to hang prints in the office and they are going to put my flyer in EVERY new OB patient package they send out!!! WOOOO HOOOOO!!!!!


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10/4/2005 1:28:42 PM

 
Tina Edwards
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/12/2005
  Laura, That is great, Congratulations. That should bring you tons of business. I looked at your other maternity shoot and it is wonderful.


Tina


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10/4/2005 1:36:06 PM

 
Angela K. Harter   LAURA, CONGRATULATIONS!!!! that is incredible!!! I would have never even thought of an o.b. doing that....i pray it brings you LOTS & LOTS of business:)

on another note...was wondering if any of you use business cards or just stick to the post cards...i'm wondering how much info or detail should go on just a business card....


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10/4/2005 2:20:00 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  hey Guys,
since all you bratnics live every where but so.cal-where I need ya to be now:-)
could ya do me a favor the next few days and keep a eye on the
"so cal photographers needed thread"
and when you see it disappering off the first page -will you please move it up for me?
I have 3 days to come up with suitable (by that I mean nice folks with patience and smiles who can tolerate families)people to train.
and I have been back and forth all day and i'm heading out again-so, I am asking if you guys can keep a eye on things for me,ok

THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!


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10/4/2005 2:20:57 PM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  I use a business card that I can put attach to my flyer in a blank spot. I only put my e-mail, name, phone and website on the card. I did use a photo of mine, but not a portrait (I felt like it was more important that they see the info and call me to see proofs). I didn't want them to judge me by that "one" photo...I also couldn't find a photo that would work for 1000 cards for weddings, engagements, babies, maternity, families, etc...So, I just used a piece of art that my sister made for me in high school. Anyway, I'd be glad to send you a copy of the card if you want something to get ideas off of.


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10/4/2005 2:28:40 PM

 
Angela K. Harter   I would love that, thanks! and I didn't even think about NOT putting a photo on there but I never looked at it as someone judging on one photo and thinking I only do one type of photography:)


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10/4/2005 2:33:49 PM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
  congrats laura!! woo hoo for you!!

i also get my business cards through vista print..the prices are right and the cards are nice-thanks for the postcard idea...its a great one...they came out great...connie


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10/4/2005 2:35:04 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
 
 
 
I also use a business card in addition to post card flyers. I have 6 different versions, they are all the same basic card, but with a different photo on each.


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10/4/2005 3:04:33 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
 
 
 
Here's a sample of the ones I did. I print them in-house on my printer with clean edge card sheets from Avery so I can put new photos on them whenever I want.


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10/4/2005 3:05:41 PM

 
Tina Edwards
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/12/2005
  I was just wondering do you need a license for photography? do you get a tax #?

Tina


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10/4/2005 3:28:03 PM

 
Angela K. Harter   thanks! that gives me a starting point...


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10/4/2005 3:32:12 PM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Hey everyone, I am still here paying close attention to the thread but am still suffering from a 'on the blink computer storage problem', I ordered a independant burner so hopefully that will help....

Debby, wish I was just that litle bit closer to you , I would totally be up for your project, and hell why not learn from the best is the way I see it!!!

Laura, congrats so much on your swoosh of business and definately the ob office thing, thats great!!! I feel completely out of the loop and a little bit stray but am trying so hard to get everything together so I can get crackin too...

Will be back soon....


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10/4/2005 3:32:26 PM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
 
 
  Ashki Business Card
Ashki Business Card
© Cyndee Wanyonyi
Canon EOS Digital ...
 
 
Oh yes, Laura...I forgot to congratulate you :). What a great opportunity!

Here is a copy of my business card...


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10/4/2005 3:39:21 PM

 
Sandy Landon
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/24/2005
 
 
 
Your cards both look fantastic!! What a great idea to have it in an OB office. Here is a copy of my business card. I have never claimed to be a graphic designer so any help or tips would be great!!!


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10/4/2005 3:48:20 PM

 
Tina Edwards
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/12/2005
  Your cards look very professional. I have not made any up yet due to the fact that I am not sure if I need a license first or not. I live in WA state and we usually have to have a license for anything and everything...LOL even done to the type of fish you can catch. :0I

Tina


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10/4/2005 3:57:52 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Both of your cards look GREAT!

I did need to register my business as a dba since I'm a sole proprietor and get a Tax ID# to charge sales tax and not pay as much of it! I keep forgetting to bring it with me when I get things though. Only so much of your items in photography are tax exempt, though. Only things directly related to the printing of the client's final product (ink and paper). No studio supplies are exempt. I don't even know whether the packaging supplies would be or not! Anyone??


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10/4/2005 4:01:55 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  OH! And THANKS everyone for the congrats! I REALLY hope it pans out and send me LOTS of maternity and newborn business...not to mention babies, kids, families etc!!! I may be busier than I meant to be! I only wanted to do this part time until my little one started school!! She's only 2! Uh Oh! At least I may be able to afford a house keeper sooner than I expected!


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10/4/2005 4:04:02 PM

 
Sandy Landon
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/24/2005
  That is the goal Laura!! Just think Merry Maids! Yeah!! By the way...weren't you supposed to be cleaning?!


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10/4/2005 4:06:42 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  OOOOOH! I'm SO BUSTED! Who invited you over here, anyway???? LOL! Trying to hide from Galen?


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10/4/2005 4:10:55 PM

 
Sandy Landon
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/24/2005
  LOL!!!!! He is in the process of coming home!! I better go order that Chinese!!


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10/4/2005 4:13:48 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Woooo HOooooo Laura. . . Congrats on your contact . .. I just had a girl who is only a junior contact me. . . she saw the pics of her friend that I just took . . . I think I will definitely be moving with things next year. . . which I'm glad. . . I"m bummed though .. . I have a senior session tomorrow and it's supposed to be cruddy weather grrrrrrr. .. we had lots of outdoor stuff planned. . . I talked to her though and we'll just do what we can of the indoor stuff and do the outdoor thing if it works . . . she was wanting to actually do two different sessions anyway soooo it will all work out ...but the leaves will be falling and my "normal" shade will be disappearing soooooo I'm no looking forward to having to find all new locations . ..


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10/4/2005 8:16:25 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
 
 
 
Congratulations Laura, I know you have got to be thrilled. Hard work pays off.

I'm one to go with photos on my business card. This has been my best form of advertisement and has brought in the most business for me. I can't put too many hot guys on them because all the teenage girls swipe them, but that's the only problem I've found.

I get bored easily and like to change the photos frequently. I'm telling ya, this one has worked for me. I find that people like to get that sneak peek of what you can do. I made a template that has everything but the photo. I just go in and replace the photos, pop it on a cd and off to Office Max I go.


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10/4/2005 9:31:55 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
 
 
  October Business Cards
October Business Cards
10 Full Color Variety Cards for $1.39
© Liza M. Franco
Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
 
Here's my sample


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10/4/2005 9:44:58 PM

 
Michelle Andersson
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/30/2004
  Wow great ideas on business cards! That's something I need to get on!

Tina I also live in WA. In case you didnt' already know, I thought I'd share the information I found for getting your license. It's really easy. It only costs around $30 and you can fill out and submit your paperwork online. Then you'll get your license in about 2 weeks. Just go to the WA DOL's website. Here's the link for the new business checklist that I found kinda helpful. http://www.dol.wa.gov/mls/newownerchecklist.htm

Scroll down to the bottom to find the business license application link.


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10/4/2005 10:08:34 PM

 
Tina Edwards
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/12/2005
 
 
 
Michelle, Thank you I will check into that tomorrow. What part of WA are you from? I live in Hoquiam, Western part of WA.

I would like some opinions, I had a princess party for my daughter and while the little girls were all dressed up I took there picture. I wanted to make each little princess their own collage as a thank you for coming to her party. My question is which collage do you like best?

Thanks,
Tina


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10/4/2005 10:28:59 PM

 
Tina Edwards
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/12/2005
 
 
 
Oh, WOW Don't know what happened with that last post. It is all distorted. I will try again and change the format.

Tina


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10/4/2005 10:44:58 PM

 

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  Tina,

just my .02 but I like the bottom one better.

nice job. I think it's a nice thing to do. I'm sure they'll love it.

amber


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10/4/2005 10:59:39 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Hi Tina! I like the bottom better as well . . . I think you can see the main background image better in it . . . and it looks less cluttered. .. but that is just my preference. .. they both look nice!


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10/5/2005 4:44:29 AM

 
Angela K. Harter   hey tina:) I agree with michelle and amber....i like the bottom better....but the both are good....it's it fun to be able to do that for a party?! I did that for my daughter's birthday too! everyone loved them and the parents were so excited to see them! (got a few jobs that way too:))


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10/5/2005 5:29:11 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Tina, they are adorable. It seems unanimous, I vote for the bottom one too. I think this was a great idea, the little ones and their parents are going to love these.

Hmmm....now you have me wondering if this might be something new to start offering. Travel to birthday parties and do "Little Princess" or "Little Diva" portraits. Bet you we could all make some money doing that.

Do you guys feel the same way? I feel like I have too many new ideas popping through my head all the time. I wish I had enough time and energy to make them all happen.


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10/5/2005 7:55:30 AM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
  WOW...you guys are just full of info today!! Thanks for the bus. link Michelle, i've been meaning to do that...Tina...like the 2nd one better too, it's a great idea...something I didn't think of when I did my girls party in the summer. Thanks, will try it next time! All the business cards look great! I'm thinking it something I should try.


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10/5/2005 8:03:44 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I really like your "Little Princess" portrait idea. I had already started telling people I will do photos at parties, and I LOVE this idea of a collage to add to that! I need to put together some kind of party package.

Then again, if this maternity thing takes off, I may only be doing that for a while! Even if I get 15 people that want it, that's 15 standing appointments per month for 10 months! That's a lot for someone who only wanted to do this part time! My ideas and enthusiasm may well sabbotage my original plans!


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10/5/2005 9:09:35 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Hi all . . . I'm home from my Senior shoot . . . This was my hardest by far. .. I just don't know what to do with their clothing choices. . . I have a blurb in my brochure about choosing clothing, but they still bring all this stuff that just is not always becoming of them . . today the girl brought an outfit that made her look even more busty and showed alot of cleavage in some shots . . . I tried various angles but it wasn't a huge success on that . .. anyway . .. I will be posting some in the gallery as I work them . ..


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10/5/2005 11:22:26 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Can't wait to see them, Michelle! Did you see the shirt color/style choices my senior had? Not at ALL what I recommended. He didn't even shave or wash his car! I've only done one Senior shoot and I can sympathize! You can only work with what you have and do your best!


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10/5/2005 12:02:59 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  The natural light ones are in the gallery now . . . they are some of myfavorite .. however. .. I had to open up the aperature really wide because it was kind of cloudy .. . so they all are a bit softer than I like. . . I think they still look okay but I was hoping for better. . . She's a sweet girl and pretty but I guess I was just surprised at how the parents can be fairly uninvolved in the choices of clothing . . . her sister came with her and helped me out with one of her suggestions . . .and all in all I think they turned out okay but I just couldn't get a feel from her whether she thought it went well or not . . .


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10/5/2005 12:08:23 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I think they're beautiful! Great job on posing to mask the cleavage! I think she'll be really pleased! Do you REALLY think the parents of a Senior will get final say over their portrait wardrobe?? They want to look cool and like they do every other day. I think you did a great job!


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10/5/2005 12:53:13 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Well Probably not Laura LOL . . . I haven't posted the "cleavage" ones though . .. will get to that hopefully soon . . .


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10/5/2005 3:23:38 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Michelle,

Wow, beatiful pictures, as always!!

When you do your outdoor portrait shots, is there an aperature you recommend. I am still trying to get a feel for outdoor shoots.


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10/5/2005 3:46:17 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Hi Lynn .. . Thanks for the look . . . When I do outdoor I usually start with my light meter reading but make sure the shutter speed is at least 90. I then go with whatever aperature that gives me and then adjust as I go . . . I usually use between 5.6 and 8.0 but sometimes if I want the background included I will go to f11. .. if you want to know what settings I used on a specific one in my gallery just let me know and I can get it for you . ..


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10/5/2005 3:53:50 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Thanks Michelle! The reason I was asking, I took some outdoor shots last month for a couple with their dog and when I had one of the portraits blown up to a 16x20, it looked "soft". I took the shots at f8 and with a good shutter speed, so I am not sure if it was the auto focus, the process of interpolation by the printer, my camers settings or what. The shot still looks good, but I guess I was wanted a "crisp" shot. So, I am trying to play around and figure out where to make some adjustments.



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10/5/2005 4:02:38 PM

 
Brenda  D. 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/27/2005
  Hello everyone , geesh this has been a long informative thread!! thanks everyone for all the helpful information:) at the top of this I noticed it was all about props, I just wanted to let everyone know about a craft store called AC Moore, I dont know if there is one in your area or not but they have unpaintd pillars (plaster) and TONS of useful stuff for props, with my pillars I used fleck stone paint on them and love the way they look hope this helps some one .


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10/5/2005 4:03:06 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Michelle, how do you go back and get the camera settings after you've downloaded them to your PC??? I haven't figured out how to do that yet!

Welcome, Brenda!!! There are THREE previous threads before this one! I have them all saved in pdf format for Adobe Reader. If you're interested in reading them at your leisure, contact me and I'll send them to you. Otherwise, you can find them in the Q&A threads as mentioned above in the first post by Debby Tabb. Glad you joined us!


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10/5/2005 4:57:34 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Hi Laura. .. I also have PSP 9.0 and it has the EXIF information in the program . . . so I can open that program and look at my settings if I need to! It's pretty handy sometimes. I wish PSE 3.0 did that . . .I think PSCS does. . . Did you hear that 4.0 is coming out??


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10/5/2005 5:03:42 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
I had a chance to mess with some of Liza's CD's today - they are so easy!!!

she has the christmas one's etc. done and I can't belive how easy this was.
again open in photo shop and open your
pics and slide them in one by one.

I think this will cut anyones time in to a 3rd of the time ,if that.


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10/5/2005 5:56:01 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
one easy one


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10/5/2005 5:58:05 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  sorry I, forgot to tell you it took maybe 3-4 minutes.


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10/5/2005 6:58:27 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
 
 
  A Moment
A Moment
Studio f6 at 200
© Liza M. Franco
Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
  Chris
Chris
Studio f6 at 200
© Liza M. Franco
 
  Contemplation
Contemplation
© Liza M. Franco
 
  Reaching
Reaching
Thought I'd share this look. It is Optik Verve Virtual Photographer-Copper. This is free if anyone is interested, someone mentioned it a while back in another post. Kinda cool look to it.
© Liza M. Franco
 
  The Stare
The Stare
© Liza M. Franco
 
 
Laura, I know its been a while since we talked about this, I tried the F6 studio shots finally and thought I'd have you take a peek and see what you think. I'm also posting a couple of others just because I like them and wanted to share. My friend Chris loves to have his picture taken and lets me use him for experimentation. He asked for the wine shots and let me do my thing when it came to angles and perspective. He wanted natural light and the sun was setting so they are grainier than I would like. Anyone have a suggestion on how to eliminate the grainy look during the shoot? I had no control over lighting whatsoever because we were in a wine store. He is meant to be blurry in the wine shots, like an ad where he isn't the main focus.

Sorry to take up room on the thread, but I have a free gallery and don't have anymore room to add new photos, I've reached my limit.


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10/5/2005 10:30:55 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Yikes, he looks so serious. This guy is laughing all the time and has this great big smile on his face always. For some reason he is always so serious in portraits. I guess its ok, it works pretty well for him in these. Just not the look that I'm used to seeing.

Debby please give me your input too. These are pretty close to his skin tone with maybe a touch more red, but I think that is just my camera.


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10/5/2005 10:55:14 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Actually ,I was choppen at the bit to respond to these-and then I saw you ask.
These are great- I love them-he is a wonderful subject. the gainy one gives it a artsy look the wine glass-is my least favorite( I like it) but do you have it also at a angle looking out of the side of his eye, headturned to look at you , hand resting on the glass and "THAT" look ? he has a really cool look-kinda, like he looks through ya.
Great Job,
These should be in the gallery!!!
You make me so mad,lol,A night out and a cool subject?? man I need a life.....

:-)


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10/5/2005 11:08:54 PM

 
Ruben L. Wade
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/2/2005
  Ain't going to happen!


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10/5/2005 11:18:31 PM

 
Ruben L. Wade
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/2/2005
  HA HA! Nice pix liza! Good Job! Oh, and Michelle, I'm still waiting on the "Cleavage" Pix. Stevie Rocks!


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10/5/2005 11:22:38 PM

 
Tina Edwards
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/12/2005
  Thank you all for your kind words. I was leaning towards the 2nd one also.

Michelle, great portraits.

Liza, I really like your wine shots. You did a great job.


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10/6/2005 12:24:44 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Okay the "cleavage" pics are in my gallery .. . they are Kelsey #045 and 047. .


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10/6/2005 4:54:46 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Debby I like your suggestion, I didn't take one like that but I will next time. Now, as far as a fun night out and having Chris for a subject, he's up for this any time. You would just need to hop across the country and come hang out in NC with me. All joking aside, Chris really is an awesome model. He is a Barista at the coffee shop I always tell you about. Next time he goes to the big competition in CA I'll tell him he needs to let you photograph him. His sister has a very smoldering look, very exotic. She and Chris are in a few pics on the website
http://www.orgsites.com/nc/lizafrancophotography/index.html

They are in Vintage Elegance, Evening Out & Never Knew You. I think they are all in the category "All Grown Up."

Thanks Ruben and Tina.

I've always heard that you should never turn something you enjoy into a job which I think is what a lot of us have done with our photography, they say you'll lose your enjoyment if you do. That's why I take off and do fun shoots from time to time. It keeps the creative juices flowing. So when I have that need for fun, I just grab a friend and go shoot. These are the no stress no expectation shoots, have fun with them they are the time for experimentation. I promise this makes such a big difference in how you shoot.


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10/6/2005 6:37:10 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  WOW! I missed a lot since last night!! Hubby needed the computer so I didn't get to check in after 8:30!

Liza...the question is, what do YOU think of the f6 studio shots? I think they're pretty darn good! They're definitely NOT too dark!

He looks like a fun guy to hang out with! I need someone like that who LOVES to be in front of the camera! I could also use a life!

Michelle! What cleavage??? They look GREAT! Looks like you did some appropriate cropping on some, whether in-camera or PS, but they turned out terrific!


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10/6/2005 7:09:44 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Hi Laura. .. Thanks for looking .. . I did do some PS work on the cleavage and just used the healing tool to kind of blend in the "crease" so it wasn't sooooo obvious and I just only chose the ones that it wasn't real bad to begin with and only edited a few . . . several were very similar in facial expression, etc. I didn't say originally that I "fixed" the cleavage because I wanted to hear an opinion first. . to make sure it didn't look to unnatural.. . I'm still not sure she will really like these because from what I know of her this type of outfit just isn't "her" . . . but you never know . . . I just got my senior boy order and she picked WAY different ones than I would have LOL . ..


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10/6/2005 7:28:20 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Liza,
you know that Marlon Brando look in the God Father.
I have a great picture of a painting we did for one of my x's newspaper reviews- if I can get my stupid scaner to work I'll post it , but later.


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10/6/2005 7:29:46 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Well done, Michelle! They look great!

Good morning, Debby!


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10/6/2005 7:37:28 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
A VERY GOOD MORNING TO YOU MISS LAURA!

I swear I feel likeI need 3 cups of coffee to day :-)
Stayed up messen with those Cd's of liza's- I had sooo much fun- but today MY eyes were killin'me!lol
here's one I was messin with.


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10/6/2005 7:41:12 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
  PLENTY OF PANDAS
PLENTY OF PANDAS
COLLAGE MADE USING TEMPLET CD'S CREATED BY AND SOLD BY BP MEMBER :
LIZA FRANCO

THIS WAS SO MUCH FUN- SOME OF THEM I CAN MAKE IN 3TO 5 MINS. THIS ONE TOOK A WHILE BECAUSE I WAS WORKING WITH UNEIDITED FILES
© Debby A. Tabb
Nikon D70 Digital ...

 
 
A VERY GOOD MORNING TO YOU MISS LAURA!

I swear I feel likeI need 3 cups of coffee to day :-)
Stayed up messen with those Cd's of liza's- I had sooo much fun- but today MY eyes were killin'me!lol
here's one I was messin with.


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10/6/2005 7:44:33 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Debby I saw you online last night and thought you were up kind of late. I finally gave in and went to sleep at 3:00am. I'm dragging today, whew. I'm so glad you're enjoying the rest of the templates.

Debby has been in there changing colors and textures everyone, making them hers. That's exactly why I set them up the way I did, I want everyone to be able to customize them for what they need.

Debby you panda looks so big and cuddly, makes me want to just give her a hug. She's so plush looking.

Laura, I think I'm happy with the f6 lighting. I respect the opinions of my fellow photographers and wanted to see if you saw anything you would change. Everyone sees things differently.

Our thread is addictive. I always thought the only addiction I had was to chocolate. Now I combine the two and have my chocolate while checking in on our thread. Ahhhh....what a perfect combination. Have a great day everyone.


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10/6/2005 8:10:36 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
 
 
 
You know, I wanted to do a fimstrip-style panel for the promo photo cup I'm giving my Senior's mom (Thank you for the idea, Debby! The cups are only .99 at Michael's!!!) I couldn't figure out how to do it, and didn't have time to play, so this is what I came up with. It looks really neat! (It's be even better in a black mug, but they only have white.)


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10/6/2005 8:16:22 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  So glad you're happy, Liza! I'm so happy we found a solution to your problem!!! :) I think it may be a tad bit bright on the right side. Maybe move the light back just a little bit, but otherwise, I think it looks wonderful!


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10/6/2005 8:19:23 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  lAURA,
THIS IS WONDERFUL!!!!
IT CAME OUT EVEN BETTER THEN I IMAGINED IT.
PLEASE , LET ME KNOW HOW SHE LIKE IT-I JUST CAN WAIT!!!


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10/6/2005 8:22:27 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  DANG IT, DANG IT, DANG IT-NO MATTER HOW HARD I TRY -I MANAGE TO SCREW IT UP.
THAT WOULD BE-I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR!!!


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10/6/2005 8:23:50 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Laura, the mug idea is great!!! And you definitely can't beat the price. If you send me the dimensions for your print area on the mug I'll make you a film strip to fit it and email it to you. Wow, I love that idea.

I agree about the light on the right being too bright. The indoor stuff is still hard for me to get right, but I'm working on it. Thanks again for your help.


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10/6/2005 8:26:31 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  LOL!!!! Another cup of coffee, perhaps??? I'll let you know! I'm hoping I get the prints today!! I'm dying to see them and then wrap them up! I went to the Dollar Tree and found black gift bags and white tissue. I got silver foil Thank You stickers at Office Depot and I'll put a bit of silver ribbon or plain raffia on the "package" of prints and the bag's handle. I can't wait to take a picture of the package!! LOL!


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10/6/2005 8:28:22 AM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Morning everyone, I promise I ams till following and practicing but cannot get any pics of camera, aarrghhhh!!! Still waiting for burner...
You are all doing such amazing jobs!!
Coffee time for me and bottle time for sophie, be back later...


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10/6/2005 8:32:47 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Thanks!! Debby came up with the idea and I kind of ran with it. The canvas size is 3.5x11 It needed a bit of trimming to get it in place properly, which is why I left room on the right. I have each photo 2.75 high at the moment, but that can be changed. Not suire how I'd get my info on there with the filmstrip...maybe only 3 pics and a slot for my business info? I'd have to play with it. THANKS!!!!! AND YOU'RE WELCOME!!!!

Off for my FIRST cup of coffee...finally!!!!


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10/6/2005 8:37:51 AM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
  Michelle-your sr pics look great....and liza, how can we get your cd's? it looks very cool!! will be posting some shots soon...


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10/6/2005 9:23:45 AM

 
Angela K. Harter   hi everyone! laura, the cup idea is great!!! love it!

i know a lot of you have said you have ordered lights on ebay....and I have gathered that contineus lighting is not the best...here is my question...i need to know excatly what to get~how many lights and what wattage to buy~i'm looking at doing mostly families so guessing 6 people at most...my husband was looking today at work but we just aren't quite sure what to get....ANY suggestions would be great!!!!


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10/6/2005 11:07:15 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  THANKS ANGELA!!! I just noticed that the insert that you actually put liquid in comes out WAY too easily, so I may be crazy gluing it on before I give it to her.

On the lighting... Continuous lighting has it's place I guess, but now that I (and others) own strobe sets...we'll never go back! It really depends on your budget and whether you have any specific lighting/equipment requirements in mind. I always recommend my set, but I don't know much about others. Debby is the best one to help you there, or you can contact Steve Kaeser himself to discuss it with him. If you want information on my set, please contact me directly and I'll be happy to share with you what I've shared with others on BP.


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10/6/2005 11:18:05 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Laura, be careful if you use Super Glue or Krazy glue. Anything with the ingredient cyanoacrolayte (sp?) can cause a haze or fogginess when used on clear plastic. Some kind of chemical reaction. Clear Silicone may work and doesn't cause a haze. It wouldn't come in contact when drinking, so I think it would be ok. Plus it would seal it so that no water gets in when washing. If you need a thin bead to work with, you can get one of those applicators that looks like a syringe and fill it with silicone. This applicator has a really small tip so you should be able to get it right in there.

Constance, I am getting ready to start a pre-sale on Saturday, Oct. 8th which means a discounted price and first on the list for shipping. The prices range from $15.00-$35.00 Shipping and handling is under $4.00 for 1-4 cds. For BP members there is an additional $1.00 off each cd if purchasing 3 or more. I will be accepting Pay Pal and Money Orders. If you would like some more information, please send me an email and I will get that info out to you. I will also send a sample which shows how they work.

Thanks, Liza


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10/6/2005 11:44:40 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  We do have some other heavy-duty all-purpose glues and I think some silicone or apoxy. I can just apply it with a toothpick if necessary. The insert litterally falls out if touched. NOT GOOD! THANKS! I'll make sure I check the glues for that ingredient!


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10/6/2005 12:04:43 PM

 
Betsy Labuschagne
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2005
  Hi everyone!

I can't believe how quickly this thread is growing!

Liza, love your wine shots, perfect model. Tina and Michelle, your portraits are great too!

I've been working on my portfolio. After only two months it's quite a difficult task, but I'm getting there.

Thanks for letting me think about my packaging again Laura, I'm using envelopes, but was thinking of using something more professional and because I do themes, I was thinking of sticking something theme related on top.

There is just so much info here to digest, keep up the good work!


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10/6/2005 1:09:28 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Hi, all! I got my prints today! For the most part they were fine. I even had one of him in his fire gear near the truck in an aged Reminiscing filter printed on metallic paper and it looks SO COOL! There was an issue with the die-cut wallets...I didn't realize that they size them on the "wallet" THEN die-cut about 1/16 inch all the way around...not just the rounding corners. So one of mine that was close to the top, chopped off the top of his head. I had to re-do it, size it smaller on a black 2.5x3.5 wallet background and re-order and rush ship. I also had to re-order a 5x7 and 8x10 because I had sized them to order BEFORE I did the acne touch ups. I touched up the proof after the fact when I caught it, but then forgot to re-size the newly edited proof for print ordering!!! UUUGGGHHHH! That ate into my profits by another $13. Oh well, live and learn. I SHOULD have them back by Monday and be able to package and deliver them. They still look great and I'm really pleased with the overall outcome.

Good Night, All!!


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10/6/2005 7:34:05 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  I know what you mean by sizing Laura. .. it's such a guessing game. . .Who did the printing? With MPix I upload a 5 x 7 and apply my logo to that and that prints as a wallet would . . . but I have to make sure the logo is up enough so when they diecut they don't cut it off. .. that is one nice thing with MPix is you see how it's going to crop before you add to the cart. . .

Liza. . on the CD's. .. how many templates are on a CD . . . and will they work with PSE 3.0??

I think I"m going to have some of my postcards printed on the metallic paper. .. and then just add a sticker to the back with the info on it . ..


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10/6/2005 8:02:33 PM

 
Angela K. Harter   i have always wondered about the metallic paper...what is it exactly? and what kind of photos do you use it for? I would love to see one if anyone can scan one?!?!


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10/7/2005 6:52:43 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  The metallic paper is kind of glossy shiny surface and really makes certain kind of photos stand out . . . I'm not sure scanning would do it justice.. . you can go to mpix.com and at the bottom I think there is a link to request samples. .. they will send you a sample of each of their paper types. ..


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10/7/2005 7:02:12 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
Okay everyone . . I'm kind of just playing this morning . .. I saw something like this on another site and thought I'd try it myself .. . is it too much .. just doesn't work . . . I like it but wasn't sure if it was too much . . .


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10/7/2005 7:04:03 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  No, I use these myself-I love them!
and I think she will also!


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10/7/2005 7:14:38 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Oh and my latest dilemma. .. I was emailed last night from a lady who has 5 children. She has hinted many times about calling me for pictures but until now never had. .. some background. .. she usually uses a very awesome and reputable photographer that is about 45 minutes away . .. but in our conversations in the past she has commented about how this photographer increases her prices EVERY year(alot she feels) and that it frustrates her and she has been searching for "someone else" . . . which happens to be me at the moment ... well this family has money ...and lots of it ... they just got done building a 6 bedroom home with a sewing room as big as half of my house I think . .. so my thoughts are that this "prior photographer" charges what she does simply because people will pay it . .. so now she has contacted me . .. I'm up for the challenge as far as the photos, etc and that isn't my dilemma. .. however... she wants to have the kids taken as a group and then also individually .. . she then wants one of the group photos for her Christmas cards. .. well . . . she sends out like 300-400 cards she said . . . so now she wants to know my "price" for a 3 1/2 x 5 photo that she can include in cards. .. I'm having mixed emotions because 1)I think she's feeling my prices out to determine future work with me 2)she will be very picky which doesn't bother me because if I can work to please her then I can probably work to please anyone . . . 3)I would love to earn her business(she has cute and adorable kids) but at the same time I need to make this work for me as well . .. I know I cannot charge her a "normal" rate for 300-400 prints but what would be a respectable price for her and me both . .. I charge $9.00 for a 4 x 5 . . . and this will be basically editing ONE time and uploading ONE time and ordering ONE time so once I get the main editing done there won't be alot of additional work as far as ordering 1 print vs. 400 . . . I'm not interested in charging her alot simply because I know she can afford it but again just want to be reasonable yet competitive . .. I have no idea what her former photographer charged her for something like this and don't really know how I could find out! I think if I can please her she will be a good future customer and I think this one shoot alone could be profitable considering the 5 individual sitting we will have also . .. soooooo any suggestions, thoughts, ideas. . . or do I run as fast as I can LOL . .. Our town isn't that big so hiding isn't an option hehehe


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10/7/2005 7:23:51 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I used mpix, but when I tried the preview, it didn't work!!! I just had to hope it would look good...at least I was right on most of them!

The metallic paper isn't just glossy, it has a pearescent finish so that anything metal LOOKS like metal, almost 3-D and the whites really pop! REALLY cool look. I wouldn't use it for color portraits, but I used it for two B&W and an aged Sepia and they look fantastic!


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10/7/2005 7:29:00 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Laura,
call me later-I will be in a couple of meetings but will call you back as soon as out of them. or on freeway,lol.


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10/7/2005 7:40:47 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  WOW! What a dilemma! I think if I was making money off of each of the 5 individual shoots, including print orders, I'd do it for a DEEP discount. It depends on where you get your prints from, but if you charge $9 for a 4x5, maybe with the rest of her order making up the difference, you can go as low as $3 or $2.50 each? If you have to jump through some hoops the get her business, assuming that you want her business and she won't be a constant headache for your, make sure she knows that you can discount the 4x5 set based on what she orders at the other shoots, but it WILL be a discounted rate. You can even work up a tiered price...Simply for volume, I'd discount them off the bat to about $6. Then maybe if she orders $300 from, the shoots, they're $5 each, $400 and they're $4 each, $500 and over they're $3 each. What do you think? Just ideas off the cuff...


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10/7/2005 7:42:19 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Bummer Laura. .. I hate it when the preview doesn't work . . . GRRRRR. . .I usually email them when it's broken. .. just a hint though . .. the wallets are based on the same aspect ratio as a 5 x 7 ...so what I do any more because this also makes my logo look better and I know the size of font works. . . is I just upload my image cropped to a 5 x 7. that way I know exactly what I'm dealing with and can also have my font on there without worrying about cutting it off. . . I place my font 1/2" up and 1/2" over if I can . . . I have had fonts get cut off and it makes them look tacky sometimes. . . It does mean an additional uploaded image but for me I just have found it's more peace of mind then having to worry otherwise. . .

AS far as my dilemma. .. I will order through MPix so they will cost me .29 each. . .I do want her to realize that ONLY because of the volume would she be getting a discount that any future individual orders with this size would simply not be discounted(unless of course the huge volume is there again). I was thinking about going with $2.00-$3.00 each regardless. . . that is still a decent profit. .. but I like the idea of the ordering so much and getting a discount also . .. it's a tough call because I will probably have very few people that I will have this situation with so I"m really not worried about having to do it for others as well .. . I'm sure if she likes the photos she will be a GREAT customer because she has already inquired as to HOW LARGE I can print if there was one she just was crazy about . . . her house is covered with pictures of her kids . .. and she has a family photo on her wall that is the hugest thing I have ever seen in my life. . . it has to be AT LEAST a 20x30 adn I'm thinking more like a 30x40 and the frame alone was probably $300-$400 dollars. .. I don't really want to jump through hoops for her but I do want to do a good job for her just as I would anyone else. .. she has always been a great customer when I've done the little kids sports pictures so obviously she was pleased enough with those to want me to do these for her. .. which I charge $6.00 for a 4 x 5 for those type of shoots. . . I just can't imagine this former photographer "giving them away" but also know that volumes do speak . .. I"m also supposed to be "searching" for a folder type card to send these photos in . . . any ideas?? I have the photographer's edge catalog and she mentioned she has catalogs as well .. .but I"m thinking she just wants me to assemble and do it all . .. which I don't mind honestly ... I believe in customer service and feel is she is willing to shell out good money for 300-400 prints I need to be accomodating . . . oh decisions decisions. .. and I'm rambling excessivly ... time to put the thinking cap on . . .


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10/7/2005 8:01:02 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Well. I'd do this, then. Instead of the tiers, which once you put it on paper, you would have to offer to everyone else who sees it...just tell her based on the multiple sessions and the volume she seems to have in mind for the entire thing, you'll discount them to $2.50 per print. If assembly is required, I'd stick to $3 to figure in for your time! Customer service is a definite art and a key to getting and keeping your clients, but BELIEVE ME when I tell you that it is too easy to let it bleed over into pure taking advantage of you and your time. I did like 50 birth announcements for my daughter when she was born. JUST the assembly part of it took HOURS. I printed a photo and printed her stats on a piece of vellum and cut everything to size and punched a hole in each for ribbon. The assembly portion was just to tie a piece of ribbon through the hole to put the vellum on top of the photo. Figure, if you quote her at the additional .50 each now, if her orders are REALLY huge, you still have room to give her a bigger discount later and WOW her with the extra savings without cheating yourself. If she scoffs at the $3 each and insists that her orders will be HUGE, I'd say ok, give her the $2.50 each, but at least you had room to move down. Make sense?


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10/7/2005 8:16:21 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
okay what about this . . I tried the font down the side like you menitioned Liza. . .I think if I had the right font it would be great but I couldn't find one I just loved. . . so is this better. .


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10/7/2005 8:58:30 AM

 
Sandy Landon
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/24/2005
  Michelle, great senior image!! Love the way you composed it!


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10/7/2005 9:37:01 AM

 
Angela K. Harter   michelle I love that picture! it is so good!!! how did you do that?

also wanted to share some good news of mine with you all~I WON FIRST PLACE!!!! I entered some photo's of my kids in a local photo contest....they might still be on this tread:) the one of both kids won and the one with just my son got honorable mention....i'm soooo excited!!! thank you liza for your help with the matting questions I had! that made them look 10 times better!!!!


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10/7/2005 9:46:04 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Hey Angela. .. congrats. ..


Okay the process. . . I started to type it all out and I did this in various steps . . . but you just kind of layer through things . . . to get the 3D effect I used the scalloped edge effect under bevels. . . for the main image I just ghosted it using inverse to keep the bigger square full color . .. the middle "layer" I used the gradiant map option and then adjusted opacity. . . then the top box is full color . .. I never write down my steps and usually am just experimenting so I'm sorry I can't give a step by step. . .


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10/7/2005 10:24:08 AM

 
Angela K. Harter   thanks michelle! I will give that a try:)


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10/7/2005 10:34:46 AM

 
Michelle Andersson
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/30/2004
  Who was it that asked a question about lighting a large group? I just did my first large group yesterday and learned so much that I would and wouldn't do the next time. I'd be happy to share my "lessons learned" with anyone who would cares. I had such an adventure!

I put the best shot up in my gallery. If anyone has any critques/commments I always love to receive them. I'm kicking my self that I didn't notice the man at the top was hiding.


Angela, I just bought a four light 500 w/s monolight strobe set and I just love it!! The best part is that its AC and DC powered. I can't wait to have budget to buy the batteries for it. I've already run into two jobs where I wouldn't have had enough power to be able to do them if I had gone for 250 w/s and so I highly reccomend going with more power if you can afford it.

Another thing I learned about picking out a set of lights is that certain brands have more selection than others when it comes to the accesories you put on your lights. Accesories such as reflectors, barn doors etc.. I went with Bowen and am very happy with my set.


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10/7/2005 2:32:12 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
 
 
 
HOLY COW...THIS thread has GROWN since I left...WELL looks like I have A LOT of reading to do, BUT I need some advice re what I should do. I will be doing a newborn shoot in 3 or 4 weeks. Our new addition to our family was born yesterday. His name is Colin James Ekstrom & weighed 6 pds 14 oz & was 20 inches long. ANYHOW I went & got a couple things I want to use for my shoot of him. BUT my delimma is on the scale I bought a piece of stryofoam to lay on top of the scale like you see in the pic, BUT how should I tie it down so it doesn't fall over when you put a baby on it?? The way you see my image is just barely sitting on the scale. Of coarse the scale is medal & I thought about maybe drilling screws in the styrofoam into the metal BUT I don't think that'll work. I am going to put a piece of white fabric on the styrofoam..ANY suggestions would be greatly appreciate!!! I have been up since 3 am soooo if I sound like I'm blabbing & you're not understanding what I'm saying then just make me clarify!! BASICALLY I don't want a baby falling on his head when on the styrofoam on the scale..I don't think mom's would appreciate that much:)LOL!!! I am attaching the couple pics I took!!! THANKS for all your advice!!

SORRY Debby..I didn't get a chance to go see Lynn. I was crazy busy while in Colorado & I was suppose to come home Sunday & ended up home Monday night!! This week has been CRAZY for me!! I'm beginning to think I have WAY to much on my plate to keep up...OR my brain needs to shut off & quit thinking of soooo many darn ideas for photo shoots...IT'S mind BOGGLING!!!:):)

Talk to you all later!!!

THE MIND BOGGLER!!!:)


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10/7/2005 3:16:35 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  please Alisha call me on cell-I am out to interview some people but REALLY want to help with some ideas here


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10/7/2005 3:27:38 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  My new maternity shoot was pushed up to TOMORROW! She also wants me to take newborn shots in the hospital and again at about 6 weeks!! She said another mom-to-be patient of hers wants to know if I'll take photos DURING labor and delivery....I said "why not, sure!" THAT should be interesting if I get that call! Don't know how that would work if I weren't available when she went into labor...I can't bring my daughter with me, and have no one to watch her. I can't do it in the middle of the night if it goes into the morning, my husband has to work. That's a tough one! I guess can only say, call me when it happens and if I can come, I will, but no promises. I'd be on-call. Hmmmmm.

Anyway...this new client checked out my site and LOVES my photos and can't wait to come in and play with me tomorrow! She wants to do some "fun and sassy" poses to show how sexy pregnancy can be to hang in the office! She sounds like a blast! Any ideas for "fun and sassy"...other than the obvious being nude. If I were to do a nude sihlouette, what is the best way to do that? Just back light with no main or fill? Camera settings? HELP!


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10/7/2005 4:46:27 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  yes Laura exactly!!!

* In a bed total nude with sheet draped over just the parts that should be hidden.
* nude in large mens dress shirt, with a tie loose around her neck, extend the leg closest to the camera a little -that will hide those parts.
have herleave the shirt open showing her belly and a bit of breast.
* same and add a mans dress hat if you can find one( the micheal jackson kind of pose) hand on hat-profile shot.
* standing with a sheet or satin hanging down her body.
what do you think? sound ok


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10/7/2005 5:33:29 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  YEP! I checked out a few online and they are nudes with arms rested on breasts with dramatic lighting. How do I do the silhouette?


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10/7/2005 5:40:30 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Oh and for the sihlouette- you could do it on white with a backlight with a blue or pink gel depending on the sex of the baby.
* and if husband is there- do the sihlouette like discribed and do it with him in it but have someone hold a flashlight on his face and have him looking at her tummy.
and then one with him behind her arm around holding tummy , use the flashlight or if you can possition "CH" on a ladder holding a light on him(you can use a piece of cardboard or something too controll the light.use a snoot on light.
this will be tricky but soooo fun to try.


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10/7/2005 5:40:45 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  you know Saterday is free min. day!! why you messin with me call and we'll yap about it.lol.


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10/7/2005 5:42:14 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
something like this, you have to play with light-that is the best way to learn, no need to mess with setting-this shot on 200/f22.
I played with the light.
I'll have to yap with you tommorrow .
or after 9:00 ca time tonight.


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10/7/2005 5:47:53 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  What a brat! LOL! I was planning to call you in the morning. I'm sending CH out for a pink and a white rose...something different for a prop instead of the shoes. I have lots of ideas, like the brown backdrop and my brown "mink" wrapped around her shoulders showing a hint of what God and pregnancy gave her (cleavage)! Strong on the main, backlight on half with the hairlight & snoot? She also wants some "sassy" seated poses. I'm stumped... Anyone???

Her hubby won't be here, he's away on a trip, that's why she pushed it up, he's coming back early and she wanted to do it before he gets back.


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10/7/2005 5:51:36 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
  THE KISS
THE KISS
NOT PERFECT-JUST THE ONLY ONE I HAVE . AND I HAD TO SCAN IT
© Debby A. Tabb
Fuji FinePix S2 Pr...
 
 
something like this, you have to play with light-that is the best way to learn, no need to mess with setting-this shot on 200/f22.
I played with the light.
I'll have to yap with you tommorrow .
or after 9:00 ca time tonight.
GUYS THAT IS SO FREAKY!!!!!!!!
I USED THE OPTION TO PUT THE NUMBER IN, INSTEAD OF UPLOADING AGAIN AND IT GAVE ME THE PANDA-I WENT BACK THINKING I DID SOMETHING WRONG AN DIT DID IT AGAIN!!! WHATS UP????


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10/7/2005 5:53:40 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  I AMMMM SOOOO CONFUSSED!!!
I KEPT TRING BECAUSE EVERY TIME IT SHOWED THE PICTURE ENTERED IT WAS NOT THIS PORTRAIT IT WAS THE PANDA COLLAGE!!
EVER FEEL LIKE YOU THE ONE LOSEIN'IT??
YO KNOW IT'S A PLOT! IT IS COMPUTERS ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE US BELIVE WE'RE LOSIN' IT-I'LL EVEN BET YA THAT ALL THOSE MISSED SPELLED WORDS I USE, I REALLY GOT THEM RIGHT -THE COMPUTER JUST CHANGED 'EM TO GET TO ME!!!
LOL,LOL,LOL IT'S A COMPUTER CONSERICY!!


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10/7/2005 6:00:12 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  You are TOO funny! It actually turns out that her hubby may come! He's home already. She may bring her son, too, so we can get some belly-kissing shots with him, too. I LOVE the ones with the child leaning on the belly with their hands on it, but looking at the camera, and only getting them and the belly in the shot. I'll have to see if we can get that. I'm not sure how old her son is, I think 2, so options may be limited with his attention span and direction. Anyway, I had called her back to ask what color pink she likes, cuz I wanted to use a pink rose, but not pastel pink if she liked brighter colors. She opted for a bright pink rose. I also asked "how sassy?" she confirmed NO full nudes, but preggo with attitude, low necklines and heels, etc. Debby, if I don't call you first, call me in the morning. I'll be running around getting everything set up, so you may need to call me to tell me to chill out!


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10/7/2005 7:25:53 PM

 
Pat Wimpee  
 
 
Laura, I used some of your ideas for pregnancy shots, they were great. I tried this one too. Maybe you can do something like this. (my lady was only 7 months pregnant). A friend of mine had some done of her in the bathtub, with LOTS of bubble bath and mostly her belly showing and one leg propped up on the edge of the tub. Looked really cute! There were candles lit also.


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10/7/2005 8:19:38 PM

 
Pat Wimpee  
 
 
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10/7/2005 8:24:05 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
  Ok Laura, I've got one. This is sexy, sassy and beautiful. Anyone who wants to play with boudoir type photos has to have what I call "the stripper" chair. That's just what always comes to mind because of an old Madonna video. We're going to use Debby's clock description for a moment. This shot would be done either as a silhouette or with a spotlight on her face letting some light fall downward. Have the back of a chair facing 9:00 front of chair facing 3:00, you and camera at 6:00 as usual. Have her sit straddling the chair so that she is also facing 9:00. She could wear a black shirt or blouse that was snug fitting and opens in the front that way she is covered. A hat would work really well too. Like Debby described the Michael Jackson right hand on the brim of the hat and left arm resting on the back of the chair. Head tilted slightly down and towards 7:00. Make sure there is a pretty curve to the back and that shoulders don't slump. This would also be great with her hand still on the brim, but her head thrown back laughing. Hope this isn't too risque and doesn't offend anyone. There is a difference between sensuality and smut. I know that anything you do will be in good taste.

Ok, I'm going to throw a new one out there. I have a Commitment Ceremony to do on Monday. Anyone ever done one? Any suggestions? Female by the way. I've worked with them before and did nice couples portraits. They photograph beautifully together. Just wanted to see if anyone has any pointers on this because I haven't done one of these before. I would imagine not too different from any other cermony.


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10/7/2005 8:26:42 PM

 
Pat Wimpee   Oh yeah Laura- one more. I'm going to try this one next time. The lady wearing a wrap around swimwear skirt, that is slit up the side of her leg, and a very lacy blouse buttoned just to the top of her belly. Then a fan blowing her hair and blouse away from her while she looks off in the distance.


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10/7/2005 8:32:50 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  WOW! Thanks everyone! Pat, I'm flattered that you were able to use some of the poses/ideas from my last maternity shoot! Thanks for chiming in!


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10/7/2005 8:47:13 PM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  Okay, I'm feeling like this is getting too long to ask these kind of questions...but...

I just received a four-light system (Debbie, I think you know which one, right?...the 960 total w/s). Anyway, I set up shot tonight and I am completely baffled. I think I finally figured out which lights are used for what...correct me if I'm wrong

Pro-500 = Main Light
HS*1000 = Fill Light
PS 200 = backlight
PS 200 = snoot/hairlight (not quite sure how this works...the main light that is supposed to stay on before the strobe goes is not turning on...is this normal?)

Anyway, lots of questions. I got a shot of my hubby in the chair and the lighting was great. I tried another shot in the exact same location with the exact same settings and it was too dark. I tried further back, too light. I would have posted some photos, but he is in his underwear...lol. I have tried fishing through the threads, but...

How many feet away from the subject should my lights be? How many feet away should my camera be?

I am so frustrated...I don't know where to even start. I am oblivious when it comes to studio lighting...please help me...


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10/7/2005 10:47:05 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
 
 
 
OK...Here's a sample of today's shoot! There are more at:

http://www.lifeimagesbylaura.com/-/lifeimagesbylaura/gallery.asp?cat=20170

They were such a WONDERFUL family to work with!! She was A LOT of fun and we were in my studio for THREE HOURS! (We talked A LOT while in our session while her husband and son watched a movie and hung out with my husband and kids.) I figured, these people coming in right now know I'm building my portfolio and aren't paying for the sessions with my promo, so I tell them when they come in to stop me if they have to leave or get tired, but I'll run until I run out of ideas at this point...they've all LOVED it so far, and I'm building a pretty good portfolio from it! Anyway...let me know what you think! I still have about HALF the proofs to edit and post, but there are a bunch there already.


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10/8/2005 10:26:43 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Hey Laura. .. those are really good . . .the dramatic lighting ones turned out great . .. Congrats. . . they will be thrilled. . . I love it when the clients are so good to work with . .. I'm like you and right now don't pay much attention to the time it takes. .. although I will need to cut that down soon LOL . . . but for my seniors I want to give them everything they might want . .. one of my clients even commented about a studio south of us that only gives you so much time . . . he must work much faster than I do . .. and like you I'm still building my portfolio so I don't mind spending the time if they don't!

Congrats again . . . you are on your way my friend!


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10/9/2005 6:02:09 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  THANKS MICHELLE!!! I was up until 1am editing and posting and my kids just don't have ANY sympathy for me! I still have A BUNCH more to do, and I think I'm going to opt for a nap today instead! LOL! I was just SO excited and had to get some onine. Thanks, All, for your encouragement and suggestions! I LOVE our little support group!


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10/9/2005 6:56:01 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Laura. . .I am often up until 2:00 or 3:00 a.m. after I've done a shoot . . . I work so much better when it's peace and quiet .. . my morning isn't forgiving the next day though . .. fortunately my kids are in school so they leave at 7:00 ish and then I"m free again to work(or nap) hehehe . .. but I also know that my eyes feel the effects and things just don't look as good when I'm extremely tired either . . . soooo sometimes that nap is necessary!


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10/9/2005 7:13:18 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Mornin Laura!! You did a FABULOUS job on these!! VERY well done. The dramatic lighting was neat. TURNED OUT GREAT!! They look like a fun family!! I REALLY like the rose idea!! It turned out beautiful! Keep up the GREAT work!! You're doing sooo GOOD!!!

Definitely get that nap in!!!:):) I was up till midnight working on my sis-in-law pics so Mike can take her the CD when he goes to Texas next weekend!!! I sleep in till 9 though!!:) Well I will talk to you later!!! GREAT WORK MY FRIEND!!!

Alisha


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10/9/2005 9:03:51 AM

 
Sandy Landon
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/24/2005
  Laura these are great!! Love the lighting and I am sure that she will love them!! If you keep doing such a good job, you'll be able to get that housecleaner! Ha ha! Get some sleep!! I know I need it. I did my first bridal yesterday and I couldn't even look at the pics til later that night because I was scared about what they looked like. Then I stayed up playing with them. I think we are all losing it!!


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10/9/2005 9:09:55 AM

 
Ruben L. Wade
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/2/2005
  Good Job Laura! You might want to do one where you log the growth of mommy's tummy over the nine months and then daddy's tummy right next to her. They should be growing at the same rate. I know, I have two kids my self.


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10/9/2005 9:30:40 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  THANKS EVERYONE! Actually, Ruben, I do have a maternity package that tracks the mommy's tummy growth over the pregnancy and ending with a newborn shoot. I didn't even think of adding the daddy'd tummy in there! That'd be a unique one!


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10/9/2005 10:21:42 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  I have a customer wanting those card type folders that have the little cut notches to place like a 3 1/2 x 5 or 4 x 6 photo in . . . I looked in my albums inc catalog and do not see this type of folder. . . what other supply sources are out there . .. she will be using these for Christmas cards but last year I don't recall them being "christmasy" so to speak . . they were like dark brown or black with the gold embossing and then the little nothes in each corner to put the picture on the front? Any ideas where to find these?


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10/9/2005 10:22:48 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I just did a quick google search for "Photo Cards" and came up with this...

http://www.cardsdirect.com/photo-holder-christmas-cards.aspx

They ARE Christmassy and there are many choices. Don't know about cost, didn't really look that far.

The google search came up with many other links. Hope it helps!


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10/9/2005 10:35:52 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Thanks Laura. . . I did some searches as well but just not finding what I'm thinking she wants. .. I didn't see that one though so going there now . . .


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10/9/2005 10:52:08 AM

 
Tina Edwards
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/12/2005
  Laura,
Your maternity portraits are beautiful. You did a great job on them. Congratulations


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10/9/2005 10:53:25 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  WOW!!! Those maternity shots are awesome!! I just love the lighting!! I need to get more hints from you guys!! This is great!! :o)


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10/9/2005 5:08:36 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  michele,
I have so many packs of those cards,
in all kinds of designs- will post later or tomorrow.


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10/9/2005 5:39:51 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  Debby do you know of a really good place for the photo cards that the actual photo is printed on the card. (I don't want to do it myself) Also I want the kind that open up like a card and have wording in the middle of the card.
Thanks!! :o)


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10/9/2005 5:52:39 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Thanks Debby .. . Melissa I have been hunting for the past 3 hours and there are so many different places. .. adn sooooo many different prices. . . the lady just emailed though and I'm too expensive she said . . . so I may not need the cards(although I would still like a source for them for future reference). .. she told me her photographer in the past(who is very good and very reputable and VERY EXPENSIVE) only charged her a little over $1.00 for the card AND the picture which included the embossing of their names and everything . .. I can't find a decent card like what she's wanting for under a dollar let alone having the print included for that . .. I'm thinking this photographer had to do it for cost or even under . . . even walmart charges like .17/4x6 so I can't imagine any normal lab doing it for less. . . oh well . . she still is doing the pictures just not the cards!


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10/9/2005 6:38:36 PM

 
Tina Edwards
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/12/2005
  I am so excited and nervous. I have a newborn photo session coming up in the next week and would like some suggestions on posing. I appreciate any help. Thanks


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10/9/2005 7:33:51 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  HI ALL! I will catch up reading the thread tomorrow. I just wanted to let you know that the rest of the proofs are up for anyone who'd like to see them!

http://www.lifeimagesbylaura.com/-/lifeimagesbylaura/gallery.asp?cat=20170&pID=4&row=15

Thanks again to everyone for your help and encouragement! I hope everyone is doing well!


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10/9/2005 8:34:07 PM

 
Brenda  D. 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/27/2005
  first I want to thank Laura for sending me threads 1-2-3 if you do the same thing for 4-5-6-7- (lol)id love to have them :) I recieved some great pics in an e-mail of babies if any one would like them let me know I know. from an artistic point of view it is something all of you would appreciate.


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10/9/2005 10:10:51 PM

 
Brenda  D. 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/27/2005
  oops I should say these are not real babies but sculptures but can be insperational, Im sorry Tina I hope you enjoyed the photos anyway. :{


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10/9/2005 10:26:40 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  Michelle thanks, I researched for a long time yesterday because I had someone that wanted one and I could not find anyone under a dollar each. I thought that was a little steep. I wonder if the cards that you pop in a photo are cheaper????


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10/9/2005 11:09:00 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Well the lady found the company that makes the kind of cards she wants. . . they however are not available online and I will have to become a dealer to get them . . . just looking preliminarily the book to choose the cards from is like $50 and they give you these vouchers to use... but supposedly this company actually does the printing of the photo and everything and the cards only cost the customer a little over $1.00 .. . I'm still thinking she had to give them to her at cost or below(she was a good customer to this photographer) but I may be wrong . .. all I know is I can't afford to not make a little profit on these. .. and even if she buys alot from the portrait sitting I just don't think it's a good habit to get into unless I'm willing to do it for everyone . .. I can't imagine anyone sending out 300-400 Christmas cards though so I don't think I would have alot of requests for something like this . . . however . . .word still gets around. Before I gave her my quote I emailed a photographer that is nearby and has been in business for years and he's been good to answer some of my questions and I just asked him what his thoughts were and he said $2.25-$3.00 per print IF she's a good customer and I want to keep her. . . sooooo anyway .. .I don't think she's really upset but it makes me feel bad I couldn't meet a customer's expectations before she even walked into the studio . . . she will be a good customer IF I can please her. . . did I mention she has 5 kids that are cute as bugs. . . ages 5th grade to 2years. she wants a group and individuals of all of them . .. and had inquired as to how large I could print . .. so if I can do her a good job I think she will be a good customer . . .but she's used this other very good and very reputable photographer for years sooooo I have alot to work towards to make this right . .. I guess we'll see. . it's not a matter of whether or not my business relies on her coming to me but as always I want my customers to go out smiling and thrilled with their sitting!

Okay . . I haven't even had my coffee and I'm rambling . .. if I find anything out Melissa I'll pass it along . ..


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10/10/2005 5:05:38 AM

 
Angela K. Harter   hi all....everyone has been quiet today:) anyhow, wanted to ask if anyone has worked with or your opinions on the new "cool lights"? I was looking on steve kaeser's web site and came across them and was wondering about them....


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10/10/2005 4:24:29 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  YEEEEAAAA!!! I DID IT!! I ORDERED MY LIGHTS!! It is done it is in stone--I bought them!!! OK, now I need to take a breath!! I just unloaded a bunch of change!! AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! OK, if these lights don't work -- JUST SHOOT ME!!! LOL LOL LOL!!

The postoffice better be quick because I am not sure I can take a long wait here!!! :o)


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10/10/2005 4:31:26 PM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
 
 
  Bridal Bouquet
Bridal Bouquet
The maid of honor and all the bridesmaids held their bouquets around her head for this shot.
© Liza M. Franco
Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
 
I tried a fun idea at the Commitment Ceremony that I shot this afternoon. All of the bridesmaids held their bouquets around the brides head. Now this only works well with full, round bouquets. I tried it with cala lilly bouquets once and definitely not the same effect. For those of you as curious as I was, the commitment cermony was every bit as beautiful as any regular wedding I've gone to.


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10/10/2005 9:47:43 PM

 
Brenda  D. 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/27/2005
  Melissa congradulations on ordering your lights!:)i havent had the chance to read all the threads to even learn how to place my lights yet. (waiting to get a day off, if I can even remember what to do with a day off!)
Liza your photo is beautiful what a great idea, mind if I use it for a wedding this weekend? so is the couple married or just commited to each other forever like in a wedding? thats very interesting i'm old school and have never heard of such a thing.


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10/10/2005 10:07:28 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Good Morning,
Liza great job-Never cared for this pose-but honestly this is the nicest shot of it I've ever seen-great job!
BRENDA,just for you the light instructions again:
I would love to help you - lets start here.I am a professional Photographers Trainer and have set up so many studios!!!
please set the camera to manuel-200/f22-iso 200.
set the studio lighting in a clock- subject and BACKLIGHT at the 12:00 hour-Main at the 3-4 o'clock hour,the camera at 6:00- the fill at between the 6:00and 7:00 hour-doesn't matter if it's AM or PM........Just kidding,
did I wake ya up there??lol,lol,
I have to get my kicks somehow this early.:-)
TEST!! and then post so I can see what is happening ok. If you truly try these settings it should be much better, and I can tell better what may be going on.
If you read parts 1,2,3,and 4 of the thread "Studio Photography" you will see that several people have used this set up successfuly and posted- Ok have at it-use a human, doll or stuffed toy makes no difference-just give it a shot and post .
Wishing you the very best in this venture,
Debby
** most basic studio shots in my gallery are with these settings-the couples collage gives you many backrounds including white.
also remamber to have it go background, backlight, subject working toward you.
***JUST COPIED AND PASTED FROM ANOTHER THREAD-LAURA, FUNNY STUFF WHEN YOU POSTED ON THAT THREAD IT DID TO YOU WHAT IT DID TO LIZA ONE DAY-GAVE YOU MY ICON,LOL,LOL
LIZA SAID I DID SOMETHING???I'LL HAVE TO ASK HER AGAIN-BUT FOR NOW-AM THE "POST BANDIT""


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10/11/2005 5:27:54 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  CONGRATS ON ORDERING YOUR LIGHTS MELISSA!!!

GREAT shot from the ceremony, Liza!

Brenda, I'm assuming the couple in Liza's ceremony were both women, thus no wedding by law. They choose to have commitment ceremonies instead. It's a ceremony of expression of their love and commitment to eachother, even if it isn't recognized legally.

Debby.... ????? Good morning!


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10/11/2005 6:03:06 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  laura,??? what you know the thread I took this from-you didn't see that my icon came up not yours???lol

The other thread was looking for some professional advice on lighting.

want go over the pictures now-still on free cell mins till 7:00 ca time.??
ring me and i'll call ya back..lol,lol
Laura swares I have her calls blocked- stupid phone won't let me answer her calls for some reason,lol
but I do love ya Laura,lol


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10/11/2005 6:09:46 AM

 
Debbie Vega
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/23/2005
  Well hello everyone, I promise I am still here and reading all the threads but my computer is still a little bit batty and we have bit the bullet and ordered a new one with dsl, oh my god, I cannot wait, no more waiting hours for pics to download and all that stuff.

Congrats so much Laura on those maternity pics you took , I thought they were just beautiful.
I am still practicing and still trying to fit my lights into my spare room, there seems ot be no space after putting all the lights in, how do you set up your Laura? What is your space like? I have to keep my spare futon in the spare room but everything else is out!

Anyway, I will be back, congrats to you all taking great pics and drumming up business. I can't wait to get there....


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10/11/2005 7:38:37 AM

 
Liza M. Franco
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/26/2004
 
 
  Bonnie and Erin
Bonnie and Erin
© Liza M. Franco
Sony Cyber-shot DS...
 
 
Debby and Laura, I'm getting ready to head to Savannah now, but I wanted to get at least one shot from the ceremony on for you to see. I really was a beautiful ceremony. I'm just going to post a collage instead I think.

I'm telling ya, if they don't have internet where I'm staying,I'm going to go into BP withdrawls. I'm addicted to this thread and enjoy the company of all you great folks.



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10/11/2005 8:52:08 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  How cool Liza!! Great photos and I like the template! :o)


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10/11/2005 8:57:50 AM

 
Brenda  D. 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/27/2005
  Laura, thanks for explaining that to me , I feel like a dumba**,now that I know what a commitment ceremony is I think its a beautiful idea, ( I dont get out much) gotta get ready for work, hope everyone has a nice day:)


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10/11/2005 9:05:58 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Well Brenda. .. don't feel bad. . . I didn't know what it was either. . . I must lead a sheltered life LOL . . . seriously though that is just not something you see in my small rural area neck of the woods.. . learn something new everyday!


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10/11/2005 9:27:55 AM

 
Betsy Labuschagne
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/3/2005
  Brenda, donít feel alone, I didnít know either.:-) Liza, I LOVE your collage. You really know what youíre doing!

Laura, your maternity portraits look stunning! I LOVE ĎIn a Motherís Heartí and the dramatic lighting! You really are doing exceptionally well!!

Tina, if you are looking for posing ideas for newborns, you could look at the previous threads, esp. thread 2 & 3. Debby gives some really GREAT ideas and examples.

Brenda, I would love to see the baby pictures you were referring to, will you please also e-mail them to me? I need all the inspiration I can get! 

Melissa, congratulations on ordering your lights, I know what the wait is like. Youíll soon be having lots of fun!!

I would like to ask all of you, what you do if youíve set up a booking for a session and then become ill (not too serious). Would you still do the shoot or would you reschedule and tell the client that you are ill. It seems so unprofessional. Weíre just going into summer and my kids have been so ill, all of us have been, thatís why Iím asking. My little one was in hospital for a week (nothing really serious), so I had to reschedule a few bookings, then when it was time to do the rescheduled bookings, I was also not well. I couldnít reschedule again because if someone wants 3 month baby portraits, you canít do it when the baby is 5 months, surely? Anybodyís input would really be appreciated. I never want to feel that Iím putting babies at risk, but also donít want to seem unprofessional. I think I need an assistant! 



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10/11/2005 10:06:05 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  First, THANKS BETSY!!! There are more on my web site. I'll e-mail you the link.

Now...I would DEFINITELY reschedule,a s I would expect a mom to do if she or her baby were sick. I think it would be irrisponsible not to!! I think the mom would be much more annoyed if she and her baby got sick because you tried to keep the appointment. If she seemes annoyed that you are rescheduling, just tell her that you would hate to get them sick. If she insists, you can either insist on rescheduling or have her sign something acknowledging that you informed her that you are ill and that she insisted on keeping the appointment anyway...just to cover you in case she comes back saying you got her child sick! I think if you tell her that you REALLY are not comfortable doing it and taking that chance, she will respect you for it and gladly reschedule for the next available appointment.


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10/11/2005 10:22:52 AM

 
Brenda  D. 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/27/2005
  ok dont everyone gag at once ... lol, I work in wal-marts one hour photolab, and by doing this I get all kinds of great ideas for pictures yesterday when looking through wedding photos I found a great idea for a backround collage , the photographer took pics of the wedding cake then added her pics on top of that it was very nice she must have been hopping to because the wedding was a double ceremony for twins. Debby thanks , I told my husband last night I was buying a babydoll to use as a model when he ask why I told him still life was easier , I think I confused him!! lol I have a few pics in my gallery if someone wants to look and give all the advice you want it would be greatly apperciated , oh in case you havent noticed I dont spell very well so please look past that thanks .


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10/11/2005 11:24:52 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  AAAHHH!!! I just got an official tracking number in my email!!! SO cool!! I cant wait!! Can you all tell!! LOL LOL :o)


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10/11/2005 5:09:47 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Well ladies . .I think I have a momzilla on my hands LOL .. .actually it's something I expected really but just need to experience the challenge I guess and hope it doesn't haunt me. . . The mom I told you about before who wanted the 300-400 cards. .. well I found the solution to that dilemma thanks to her help . .. well then tonight she emails me and asks if I have any experience in switching heads, etc if necessary .. . I have VERY VERY VERY minimal experience in doing this and usually try to just get the picture best as I shoot when it comes to smiles, eyes, etc. so I basically told her that but yes I had access to a lab that could do it for a fee naturally(which she knew) . . . I knew this was the type of stuff she asked for because she had mentioned it to me before with her former photographer. . so now she is asking me these same questions . . . it's such a catch 22 ... she has 5 kids and very photogenic ones at that .. . so I know if I can please her I can please anyone and that is where the challenge comes in I guess. . . I want to make her happy, yet not at the expense of making me crazy LOL . . . I think she will be a very good customer if I can find what suits her... my dilemma is that the photographer she has used in the past has 25 years experience PLUS 25 years worth of equipment, props, etc. I have very little . . . and she knows that . . . but I don't want her to judge my abilities on my prop selection . .. and I certainly want to be in control of my business . .. so I guess just wish me luck with this shoot . . . it's tentatively scheduled for Dec 3 but we are hoping to move it up to the end of October if it works for her . . we discovered an inservice day that day from school . . . Anyway .. . I'll be sure to let you know how it all turns out . ..


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10/11/2005 10:11:10 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  Michelle, if it comes down to swapping heads (with that many children it might) Please let me know, I wouldn't mind doing it for you for free. I do this alot on my own childrens photos. (I am a perfectionist and I like them in a certain way) I would be glad to help out! :o)

YOU'LL DO GREAT!!!


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10/11/2005 10:22:01 PM

 
Jay A. Grantham
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/21/2005
  Wow.. Started with the first post this morning and went through them all. ALL 4 threads!
Lots of good stuff to digest.
Laura, I'm impressed to see how far you've come in the short period.. lots a nice work from everyone, but I'm a neighbor of Laura's, so probably noticed her most for that reason.
It seems that the workshop hasn't been mentioned in a while.. that still going to happen?
Just wanted to say hello.. must go now.. several hours of reading takes a toll.

--jay


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10/11/2005 10:28:53 PM

 
Brenda  D. 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/27/2005
  hi everyone, Debby im giong to try the light set up this weekend, cant wait to show all of you the UGLY baby doll I found and it smells funny kind like
cheap rose perfume!
Melissa I wish I was talented enough to swap heads in photos id have a blast!!


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10/11/2005 11:12:39 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Thanks Melissa. . . It's something I know I need to learn . . . yet at the same time I don't know if I want to "advertise" I do it on a regular basis either LOL ... But I may be taking you up on your offer!

Thanks!


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10/12/2005 4:05:01 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Good Morning Guys and Welcome Jay Glad to have ya!

The workshop contact in your area would be Laura, Just shoot her a email and she'll keep you in mind as she sets up a date.
Please keep in mind that the holidays are coming an deveryone is busy-so workshops may not be able to be scedualed until after the 1st of jan.
Please forgive me guys, I am training photographers the next two weeks and will try to stay in touch- those of you with questions can email me for a phone number if ya need some personal help- it's ok-phone is easier to find then computer time,lol,lol
have a great day.:-)


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10/12/2005 5:27:18 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  HI, Jay!! Thank you SO MUCH for your wonderful compliment!!! You're in Houston, too? Where about?

oooooooo, guys, swapping heads.... not something ELSE to learn!!!! I think I'll just refuse more than 3 kids for now!!!! LOL!!! You'll be FINE Michelle!!! I bet you surprise her and she won't need to "swap heads" to make the portrait. Believe in your ability and you'll be fine! (OK, Debby, STOP LAUGHING now!!! Sounds strange for ME to give that advice, doesn't it???)


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10/12/2005 6:14:47 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  HHEEE,HHHEE,HHHEE,
I'm havin' my coffee or I would have thought I was sleep typein',lol
Really , it's good advice-you take a job you have to face it no matter the how scary YOU may think the out come will be.
That's just artist panic,tell 'em Laura,lol
I do love to pull your tail first thing in the morning:-)


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10/12/2005 6:23:09 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Well I have done some minimal "head swapping" in a few of my sports team pictures when one kid kept sticking his tongue out despite being told NOT to and taking 3 pictures. . . some kids close their eyes. .. that type of stuff but in the large groups it's never as noticeable. .. I think she has went as far as to have whole bodies switched out. .. which might actually be easier in some respects. . . this is a good challenge for me . . . I just hope I survive HAHAHA


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10/12/2005 6:43:48 AM

 
Randy Totten
BetterPhoto Member Since: 11/11/2004
  My wife and I started photography about two years ago part time. She does most of the portrait stuff and I do the sports. We have JTL versa lights. Two 300s and one 160. (I ordered the light from the J and K Group on e-bay, they were very helpful before and after the purchase)
I have been learning so much for these posts. I have only read #3 and #4 so far. I saw that Liza is coming to Savannah. Is there a workshop here in Savannah? If so when and where. I was wondering how to find out more about these workshops and the template CD's.
Thank you all for the great info and sharing the great pictures, I will start putting more pictures in my gallery soon.


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10/12/2005 6:45:43 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Welcome Randy!! we aer very glad to have you.
Please when you get the time ,do read parts #1 and #2, they will be very helpful- or have the wife read and report back to you if she happens opon more time.
No there is not a workshop in Ga. this weekend , Liza has a wedding shoot there and will be out until next Monday.
We welcome anyone to Host a workshop and if you would like info on that then contact Liza or Myself and we will send you a email or phone number as to how to do that.
Liza has not yet had a chance to list her Cds in her gallery ,as I have. This is a chore that is among the first on her list when she arrives back from this weekends Job. so for now , Please shoot her a email,tell her I told you too, and she will know you are not someone she has spoke to already but in fact someone with a new intrest-Again, I love these and have used them daily since I recieved the completed project.
Wishing you and your wife the very best in your ventures and enjoyment here on BP.


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10/12/2005 7:13:52 AM

 
Jay A. Grantham
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/21/2005
  Thanks Laura, Debby.
I'm in NW Houston (290/1960 area)
I'm a Firefighter by profession.. I got the photography bug a couple of months ago and can't stop reading about technique/equip and the like. Currently I have a film SLR (Maxxum 3xi) and an Olympus P&S digi. My eyes are set up on the D70s.
I've thought about doing location shoots for families.. kind of the direction that I wanted to go in, but with all the studio talk.. I'm hooked. I'm chicken to try anything with my film camera and my digi just doesn't have the options I need (purchased for it's size).
I'll keep lurking along....


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10/12/2005 8:24:38 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  WOW! So many new people checking in! Glad to have you!

Jay, I'm in NE Houston between Beltway 8 and 1960! You live over near Connie Turner (also a BP member and studio owner!) Her site is www.tenthstreetstudio.com

I just did a Senior Portrait session for a volunteer firefighter and included a truck and his dad and fire gear in some shots. They're on my site under Portraiture under Senior Portraits and there are more under Proofs and Martinets, J. I LOVED shooting with a firetruck!!! It was a blast! Glad to have you join in "the thread"!!!


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10/12/2005 8:32:57 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Hey Debby!! There is a HUGE discussion going on in a yahoo group with the legal issues of using/adding music to a CD for a wedding bride/groom! Sharon D. thinks you probably know the answer to the legal aspect. I'VE seen it done..a slide show at a wedding of pics of the bride/groom set to country music. Is that illegal as well. BUMMER if it is cause I like music set to the pictures!!


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10/12/2005 8:49:55 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  You cannot re-sell someone else's music without their permission and/or paying for the use, just like it would be illegal for a musician to use your photo on a CD cover without your permission or paying you. It's copyrighted.


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10/12/2005 8:54:39 AM

 
Jeff Dadey
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/14/2005
  Hi All!!! I posted a thread on this question but wanted to see if anyone on this thread could help (since it seems half of the BP community is on this thread, HEHE). I have a client that wants photos made into those cut-out statuettes. Does anyone know where I can have that done for them at a reasonable price? Thanks for your help.

Jeff


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10/12/2005 9:02:20 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Woooo HOOOOO it's official ... I'm a Stylart Dealer . . . they are sending me the Christmas Card Design book that my customer had requested cards from ... and so now I can meet her Christmas card needs woooo hoooo . . . now let's hope the pictures turn out without too many head changes hehehehe if anyone is interested in seeing the card styles you can go to www.demo.stylartstore.com and then click on photo cards. . . the pull down menu is the retail price the customer pays and our cost is 60%. They were out of the seasons greetings books but she said she located one and is sending one to me so I can have them look at the actual samples rather than the web page. This is really cool.. . and they also have graduation announcements, wedding, baby, etc. you do have to pay for the books but they give you vouchers to use on your orders! the main website is www.stylart.com but it's pretty limited in the info. ..


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10/12/2005 9:26:21 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  GOOD MORNING to you all!!!!

Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday dear Laura....
Happy Birthday to you!!!!!!!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MRS LAURA O'CONNOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!

The image I posted today was for you since you love taking maternity pics...& are VERY good at them I might add!!!!

Hope you have a SPLENDID day!!!!

P.S..My husband is on his way to Texas today....Like I said before the next time we go to see his brother..I will call you!!! In the mean time though my new camera should be her Saturday & so I'm glad he's gone cause now I can PLAY ALL DAY LONG with my new TOY!!! YIPPEEE!!!!!


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10/13/2005 5:27:59 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  happy birthday Laura!!!!
wishing you a wonderful day!
and Jay, No lurking!! stick around and play with us and as you make you wishes,I am sure Laura would wish that your dream of a D70 will come true very soon.
I have bought cameras from this man and found him very good:1,128.00
Nikon D70(the s options are downloadable through Nikon.com)
3 sigma lens-2 cases 1hard,1soft-tripod:1 tall 1 tabletop-filter kit-cleaning kit-1 gig card and card reader-etc.
heres the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-D70-DIGITAL-SLR-3-LENS-KIT-HUGE-CARD-AND-MORE_W0QQitemZ7552871748QQcategoryZ43456QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem


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10/13/2005 6:29:27 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Alisha,
I am going backwards(laura ,no laughing-she thinks I am always running backwards-are ya soittin' coffee yet?brat nic)reading the posts from yeasterday.
ok, on your question- to record the song and music doen by the qrignal artisit for resale is not acceptable( however , if it's for one wedding and not mass production.....ya know-ok yes Laura I'm awful,lol,lol:-)
however, if it is song or music that has been released for backround music, then it is ok- you can find these in book stores, bible houses, record stores(oh Gosh, did that age me-cd stores how stupid-they should have kept vinyl)some Bridel shops- it will be marked and ususlly sold with the music-also, you can absolutly do it when sheet music has been released and you have a friend artist proform it for you.
boy, I can hardly type (and think ) I NEED COFFEE!!!!
hope this helps,
Debby


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10/13/2005 6:50:21 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  lol,lol,lol I suck this morning!I didn't read what I wrote before posting,lol spiting coffee Laura,
and oh shoot the rest you guys have to geuss on-best of luck with that,lol,lol


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10/13/2005 6:52:54 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  THANK YOU ALISHA!!!! You're the best!!! I'll check out your post shortly! :) My husband is home today and took Liam to school and brought Bren on "errands" so I could have a quiet morning to wake up and have my coffee and prep for my noon shoot!! Yippeee! I get to take pictures of a 3 month old on my birthday!!!

Debby...definitely have more coffee!

On the music, I was definitely referring to any recognizable popular copyrighted music (like a lot of the current hits people choose for wedding songs) Yes, if you get a cd MEANT for background music and it is not-copywritten, it's totally legal. BUT, my dear Debby, if you use copywritten music and are making money from it, the artist is legally entitled to a cut! Turn the situation around...would you be ticked off if you saw a CD full of your images set to the artist's music being sold by them as a multimedia disk... without being asked permission or compensated, or at least having credit given where due on a title or credit's page. I would! I know, a few good shoots and I'm becomming an impossible artist. LOL!


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10/13/2005 7:07:57 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
 
 
 
Hey Michelle, swapping bodies is not that difficult as long as the lighting is similar. I have done that I have also added stuff like metals to the pictures. I will try to post one here.


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10/13/2005 7:08:09 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
 
 
 
OK, I will try to up load again:


THis picture had a missing boy and then several of the boys did not bring their metals. This shot had to have the metals because if was for the newspaper to show that they had won state. The boy in the middle was swapped because he was a sad boy that day and could not get it together. :( I got one good shot of him so I used that, to say the least that shot was not great for anyone else--but at least I got one OK, shot of him. :)


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10/13/2005 7:11:46 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  This shot is crisp, I forgot to sharpen it for BP posting... sorry...OPPS!! :)


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10/13/2005 7:16:51 AM

 
Sandy Landon
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/24/2005
  Ok Melissa, I cant even tell that you are a body swapper!! If you are that good, could you swap my body with say someone that weighs 60lbs less and hasn't had 4 kids!?!! :) Great job on that!


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10/13/2005 7:33:34 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  LOL LOL!! You are too funny!!! :) :) LOL LOL LOL

I could probably do that!!!! If it were only that easy in real life!! LOL LOL Heck I could use less wrinkles a better nose and more muscle!!! Maybe I could clone in some bigger eyes while I'm at it!! LOL LOL LOL!! :) I NEED A Digital EXTREME Makeover LOL LOL :)


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10/13/2005 7:40:48 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  FOR THOSE OF YOU USING EBAY-I WILL TRY TO GIVE YOU THIS LINK-IF IT DOES NOT WORK-GO TO MY EBAY STORE AND LOOK DOWN THE LEFT HAND SIDE TO LINKS:AUCTION SNIPER.
YOU REGISTER AND IT WILL HELP YOU TO GET A LAST SECOND BID IN ON THE AUCTION YOU WANT.
i DO HOPE IT HELPS.HERES THE LINK:


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10/13/2005 9:00:00 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  Debby your link is not working????

Melissa


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10/13/2005 9:03:11 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  i SAW THAT- SO JUST USE THE ONE IN MY STORE-THERE IS A LINK IN MY GALLERY FOR THAT.
CLICK ON THAT LINK THE SCROOL DOWN THE LEFT SIDE IT SAYS AUCTION SNIPER.
CLICK THERE.
HAVE A GREAT DAY.


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10/13/2005 9:06:13 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  Cool!! Thanks I have heard about those services I will have to give that a try!! :)


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10/13/2005 9:23:25 AM

 
Collette Photography
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/21/2005
  Hey,
I saw this thread and thought I would join in to see if I could get some advice and feedback on the senior portriats that I just finnished for someone.
Thanks!!
Collette


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10/13/2005 10:26:00 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  WELCOME COLLETTE!!!
glad to have ya-in the middle of Photographers Training , so will get back to the thread later,
have a great day ,
Debby


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10/13/2005 11:20:04 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  WOW!! Collette that football player is HOT----HOT HOT HOT!!! You caught him PERFECTLY!!! WTGG!!! That is an awesome shot! Guys are hard to photograph because they don't get into it as much. But you sure caught his handsome side!!!


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10/13/2005 11:20:55 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Hi guys,

Sorry I have been out of the loop here lately. I am trying to catch up on all of the posts. I was hoping you guys might be able to help me here. I just placed an order from mpix for a 16x20 and it came back looking very "soft". My original file was 4011 x2613 before cropping. I know a lot of you also use mpix, and they advise not to interpolate or sharpen, because their software can do it. Can anyone tell me what they do to get their digital prints ready to produce "crisp" images. I have recently learned about interpolation. I know my camera, Nikon D1X, is capable of producing crisp 16x20 images. Help!!! Photoshop people I need advice! Should I be interpolating my images before sending them off?


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10/13/2005 3:21:38 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I just got one recently in a 20x30. It may have been "beginner's luck" but all I did in PS was size my Large/Fine Jpeg file to a 20x30 at 300ppi and ordered it as a 20x30 through mpix. It came out BEAUTIFUL! I know NOTHING about interpolation. I'm afraid to learn!


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10/13/2005 3:47:51 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
 
 
 
Here are a couple of images from my shoot today. I still have editing to do on all of the baby shots, but I loved these! Their mom wants a lot of B&W, so I am converting them all.


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10/13/2005 3:52:29 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Laura,

Those are great shots!!! The mom is going to love those!

When you ordered the 20x30, in photoshop did you use the cropping tool at 20 x 30 inches and enter 300 for the resolution? Thanks! This is so bugging me. I know my camera has the capability, but the picture I recently ordered was horribly "soft". When I contacted mpix, they told me to crop but leave the resolution field blank, because they would do the interpolating. I need to figure this out!!!!


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10/13/2005 4:09:10 PM

 
Tina Edwards
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/12/2005
  Hello, I just a photo shoot yesterday with a return customer and would like your constructive criticism.

http://www.portraitsbytina.photosite.com/Baron/Chapter2/

Thank you

Laura great portraits! You did it again and you have come so far. Great Job!


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10/13/2005 4:20:16 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  THANKS!!! I hope so! I have A LOT more of just the baby, but want to narrow it down to 5-10 really good ones.

I just went to Image, Image Size, typed in 20 for height and 30 for length (my photo was horizontal) and ppi was already 300, so I left it alone!


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10/13/2005 4:21:27 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  Laura, this might seem like a silly question but how did you adjust the 300 ppi, for some reason when I go into my photos this number is always different. And lately my photos have been reading 72!! Can you adjust the ppi in your camera or is this something that just happens?
Thanks
Melissa


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10/13/2005 4:25:05 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I HAVE adjusted it in PS once when it was lower, but I am NOT the one to answer that question. If it's coming up that low initially (when you first open a photo after downloading from the camera...before ANY editing), you must not have it on your highest Jepg Fine quality setting on your camera! I was told that you need it at least 300 for a clear print when you enlarge it to 8x10 or higher.


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10/13/2005 4:28:52 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  OH! And THANKS TINA!!! I really appreciate that! This is my first shoot with kids other than my own! I have another baby coming in on Monday and another maternity shoot on Wed and two more shoots in the works!! AAAAGGGHH!!! I'm SO excited!


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10/13/2005 4:30:32 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  Laura, I am wondering if that the adobe is just keeping the 72 setting from the last time I fiddled with a shot. I decrease my images a lot for posting on the net for 72ppi. When you pull your images up in the image size is it supposed to choose what the picture is currently? or does it have an automatic remembering setting???
Thanks. Also, you are right about the 300 for a clear 8X10. I just find it hard to believe that these images that I took on the largest format on my camera are comming out at 72 ppi. That is why I am not too worried. I think that it is adobe pulling something else up, like information from a previous pic. I just need to doubly make sure!! :)
Melissa


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10/13/2005 4:33:04 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Laura,

Can I ask what your file pixel dimensions were straight from the camera, before cropping? Thanks so much!!!!!


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10/13/2005 4:42:36 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  OH! Maybe that's it! Maybe it's coming up at the last photo? Mine don't seem to do that, though. It changes with my current file. The one I'm working on right now I just opened and it reads 3008x2000 10.027x6.667inches at 300ppi.


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10/13/2005 4:45:17 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  OK, Laura, you are freaking me out!! Now I am getting worried!!


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10/13/2005 4:46:36 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Don't let ME freak you out! I'm as clueless as you are!! LOL! Maybe check the EXIF info under File Info... ??? REALLY...I'm JUST GUESSING! Maybe you should post it in a new thread to have some PhotoShop pros help us out!?!?!


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10/13/2005 4:48:57 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  Is there a place where I could go to actually find the exact data of that particular photo?

You know another thing that I noticed in adobe is that even after cropping it still seems to read the original dimensions even though it has been cropped. Is that normal??

THanks
Melissa


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10/13/2005 4:49:08 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Melissa,

I just checked and mine is like Laura's -it changes with the current file.

Oops - I hear my toddlers waking up from naptime!


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10/13/2005 4:49:33 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  We just posted at the same time, Where do I find the EXIF data. Ok, I know that is a stupid question, but, well I don't know!! :) LOL

Melissa


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10/13/2005 4:50:41 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  BTW Laura,

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!!!!

Lynn


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10/13/2005 4:56:34 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Aren't you the one swapping heads and bodies???? I thought YOU were our PS pro!!! LOL!

I just found out about EXIF data this week! Talk about feeling stupid! If you go to File, File Info... and in the window'd drop down box EXIF should be at the bottom of the list.

My PS Image Size info changes every time I crop or anything like that. Are you looking at IMAGE size or CANVAS size? That might make a difference. Also, perhaps there is a setting in there to retain your previous settings. If you are saving photos to 72ppi, that's why your large print came out so soft! You may need to reset PS to default settings and see if that works (of course, it'll reset EVERYTHING, but it may be worth it!)

Does anyone know if Virtual Photographer filters work with PSE?? My hubby just got me PSE 4.0 for my brithday!!! I've been using a "borrowed" copy of PS7. I haven't loaded PSE yet. I wanted to get my editing done and proofs up tonight, since we're going away for the day tomorrow.


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10/13/2005 4:59:13 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  THANKS, LYNN!


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10/13/2005 5:00:19 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  I never claimed to be ANY PRO!!!! I have massive holes in my knowledge here and I am the first to admit that one!!! LOL LOL LOL!!! I need serious help, heck thats why I hover over these forums!!!! LOL LOL LOL :)

I think you just got lynn and me mixed up she was not the one with the 72 ppi problem. just the soft print problem.

I do think that you can use the vertual photographer filters in PSE check to see if you have a plug in file in your adobe program that is where you would place it.

THanks for that EXIF info!!! THAT WILL HELP fill one of my holes in my head!! :) LOL LOL!!


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10/13/2005 5:08:46 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  You know what I just realized ppi is different from dpi. ppi is for screen use where dpi is for print use.

Maybe I am getting mixed up, and don't need to worry at all!! :)


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10/13/2005 5:09:58 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Hey Laura...On the Virtual Photographer if you find out that you can plug it in with Elements I would like to know how it's done as well..I have Elements 2.0 & PS7.0, BUT when I first found out about VP I tried getting it on Elements & NEVER could get it to work. Something about plug ins or something & well I just gave up & it downloaded to PS7 just fine!! I suppose if no one knows here we could start a discussion:):) I like using Elements better for collages than 7.0 & so I have to flip between programs & it's kinda of a pain:):)

I like your pics of the kids. They're cute. I REALLY like your comp & the little boy in the first pic. I LOVE the b&w of COARSE!!!hehe!!

Let me know when you have the other's posted!!!

Alisha


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10/13/2005 5:10:01 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  I'm still stuck on this resolution thing. Don't you just hate it when you obsess over something - this just bugs me so much!! LOL!!

If my original photo is at 300 ppi before cropping, when I crop to a 16x20, do I leave the resolution field blank or enter 300. I think this is where my problem is. Mpix said to leave it blank, but it drops my resolution down to 104 ppi.

Laura, what were your pixel dimensions before you cropped to the 20x30?

I would love to know how to print this 16x20, so that it would actually be clear.

Thanks again!


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10/13/2005 5:19:31 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  LOL! I think we're ALL mixed up! Sorry about that. Yes, dpi is for print ppi is on-screen. It's REALLY hard to tell what's what on your situation without actually seeing it. Can you open a new photo that's never been touched, look at the Image Size. EXACTLY what numbers and info do you see?

Thanks, Alisha! I'll probably load it and fool around with it this weekend, while you're off playing with your new camera!!! I'll go to the VP web site and see what it says. Maybe 4.0 will allow more plugins, it was just released on 9/27! Cross your fingers! If not...you have BOTH loaded on your PC?! GREAT TO KNOW! I don't want to give up some of the PS7 functions that I've heard PSE doesn't have!


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10/13/2005 5:21:32 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  WE NEED A CHAT ROOM!!!! LOL!!!

Lynn, I don't recall what my pixel dimentinos were before I cropped it was two months ago! BUT, I just did it to my current photo and it went from the 3008x2000 at 300dpi to 9024x6000 at 300dpi. So it must have been similar.


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10/13/2005 5:24:01 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Well then we BOTH can be playing this weekend!!!:):)

Yes I have them both downloaded on my PC. The thing is though I only have one up at a time cause it will bog down my computer if they're both up cause ELEMENTS is a pretty big program. I also have Photo/Graphic Edges downloaded as well(it's 3 CD's to download..so it's HUGE). I just don't like closing one & opening the other cause I LOVE the history brush in PS7..I LOVE doing collages in Elements...PLUS my VP is on PS7. SOO anyhow let me know if you figure it out. I did the whole plug in thing & just couldn't get it to work or understand I guess...


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10/13/2005 5:26:43 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  THANKS LAURA!!!!!!!

I think that is the problem with my picture. When I ordered it, I left the resolution field blank and it dropped the resolution down from 300 to 104 ppi. I think I just to enter 300 ppi when I crop to keep the resolution the same.

WOOOHOOO!!! I am going to work on this tonight and reorder the picture and see if that was the problem!

THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!



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10/13/2005 5:32:54 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  OK OK OK!!! I just went to the canon web site forum to understand my camera. I was comming from the 10D which had an automatic 180dpi, the 20D has an automatic 72dpi. There is not difference with the dpi in digital because you can make it what ever you want here is the senior moderators response to a similar question, I think lynn might find this information usefull too.

This setting "DPI" is meaningless in a digital image.

This is what canon moderators stated:

You can change it to whatever you want to in PS and no actual changes will be made to your images.
Feel free to set it to 3000DPI.. it will not change a thing in your prints.


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10/13/2005 5:33:32 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Always save at 300dpi.Always , Always.


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10/13/2005 5:36:32 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  If you talk to pros at Printing houses and developers they should always tell you 300dpi- it allows them the ability to minipulate the image for printing and coping-but , just this girl opinion,and the opinion of those I do business with soooo.....
just throwing it in-thats what I save everything to.


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10/13/2005 5:40:46 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Wait, now I'm confused - when I crop, I enter a number in pixels/inch for resolution. Is this the same as dpi?


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10/13/2005 5:41:32 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  OK here is the real scoop from canon themselves:

Don't change the number of pixels in the image, unless you know that it makes a difference with the specific setup you are printing to. Most of the time it's a wasted effort, and sometimes it will make things worse.

300 DPI is a fairy story told by people who have no idea where it came from. (It has to do with half tone screens used to make plates for offset printing, and has nothing to do with way photos are printed). The number of dots per inch the printer puts onto paper and the number of Pixels per inch you need to get an image that doesn't look pixelated are totally different things.

Photo printers do not print at 300 dots per inch - usually much higher, sometimes in multiples of 300 (canon Inkjets), and sometimes in multiples of 360 (epson inkjets). Unless you know what the Kodak, Fuji or Noritsu unit used in your chosen lab works to there is no point in resampling to 300 DPI because they will have to resample from that to 2160 or whatever they happen to use: in most cases they will do a better job than the software on your PC.
On the other hand I have an Epson 1270 and I've found that Qimage - which resamples to the 720 DPI for this printer, and other resolutions for others - definitely does a better job than leaving it to printer.

If you think you need 300 Pixels Per Inch, take a test picture, and work out how Pixels you need for a 6x4 print at a bunch of different resolutions. Resize down to those resolutions and take the copies to be printed. See if you can tell the difference between say 175 PPI and 250 PPI, or 250 and 400 PPI.



David Didcote
Posted: 31/08/05 12:49:39 PM
I totally agree james, I think too much is put onto the 300dpi rule, I had two A2 prints done at 150dpi taken on a 6meg camera, and they are amazing, theres no problem with them whatsover.

i changed the dpi from 72 to 150 in photoshop, then resized my image to the A2 size and sent it off.

They came back superb, and they are hanging on my wall.

Please peeps dont worry about the dpi issue too much.

I tried it at home , sized an image to what I wanted to print at, print previewed in photoshop and printed out the A4 size bit that was showing (obviously I only printed a bit of the picture on A4)it looks amazing, try it, you will be suprised at how good your pics look.


Silverfox
Posted: 01/09/05 16:18:25 PM
I think there is a subtlety in James' very correct answer that is maybe being missed. That is the difference between dpi and ppi.

The output from the canon is a 10mp file based on the first post (just multiplying the ppi by the inches). Don't have a Canon, so I guess it is true.

The output is just pixels. not pixels per inch - just pixels. Provided you do not change the number of pixels by cropping, changing the pixels per inch just changes the size of the image that would be printed, or displayed in photoshop.

The printer will print the image size you created above. But the printer prints using a different scale of dots per inch, which is a measure of how far apart the dots of ink are. If you look at your printer set up, probably the lowest you can set it is about 720dots per inch?

So changing the printer settings will not change the size of the printed image, and neither will the person you gave the image to - unless you do something else like scale it in the printer software, but that is totally different...

I thought I was going to help clarify it, but reading through maybe I didn't. I hope I contributed positively though :)


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10/13/2005 5:44:43 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Good to know! I didn't think it would do anything, it doesn't make sense that it would change the "makeup" of the photo.

The ppi settings in the camera ABSOLUTELY DO make a difference in your photos!! ALWAYS 300!!!!


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10/13/2005 5:45:16 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Good to know! I didn't think it would do anything, it doesn't make sense that it would change the "makeup" of the photo.

The ppi settings in the camera ABSOLUTELY DO make a difference in your photos!! ALWAYS 300!!!!


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10/13/2005 5:45:17 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  OOOOOOPS! Sorry!

HI DEBBY!!


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10/13/2005 5:46:08 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  It makes no difference on prints less than 5x7, but from 5x7 to 8x10 and higher, to get a clear print, it NEEDS to be MUCH higher than 72! If you're printing at home with an HP or Epson and only as high as 8x10, you may be able to get away with 72. For professional prints with professional results, you MUST have it at a higher resolution to blow them up! If there is even a CHANCE you might get an order for 11x14 or larger, 300 is a MUST!


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10/13/2005 5:51:07 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Thanks for all the info!!!

I think I finally understand this. I'm working on my photo tonight, so hopefully I'll get better print results. I would really like to offer clients the 16x20 size, but I need to be able to produce it with good results. Like I said, this has been frustrating because I know my camera has the capability, but something was missing.

Thank you guys so much. This has been bugging me so much the last couple of days since I got the photo back.

I love this forum we have - I have learned so much here!!

Thanks again, Melissa and Laura!!!


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10/13/2005 6:01:54 PM

 
Sandra 
BetterPhoto Member Since: 10/31/2002
  LAURA,
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, AND WISHING YOU MANY MORE!
Sandra


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10/13/2005 6:13:05 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  I found this artical: can someone make any sense with this??? And then translate it into basic language for me??? I really feel like I am reading Japanese! LOL LOL LOL

http://www.photo.net/learn/resize/


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10/13/2005 6:21:19 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  WOOO HOOOO I'm excited. . . I just got my order from my baby shoot and it's over $500 . . . she ordered 2 collages. . . yippee!!!


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10/13/2005 7:55:36 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  CONGRATS CONGRATS CONGRATS!! Michelle that is awesome!!! :)

OK, I think that I finally figured this all out with the 72 ppi in the canon 20D. Canon has adjusted to the ppi to meet a standard with a macintosh. This was done for easy callibrating when using a mac. (Macs are the primary computer used for digital imaging). There is really no loss just a recording (using 72dpi). This ppi can be changed with no image loss at all -- as long as you are not upsizing larger than the actual photo was taken in -- pixels. Really the number that you should look at is the dimension of the photo in pixels rather than ppi or dpi. 3200X2000 or so forth. That will determine how large you can make the final portrait without losing image quality. If you make the photo larger than it was originally recorded at -- you need to use a program to help you increase that image. (Genuine Fractuals is recommended)

For image clarity and for making a photo print better it does or should be reset within photoshop to 300 ppi. But this is really a computer thing and really does not effect the picture just the output size when printing.

Here is an artical that states the differences in dpi, ppi, lpi etc. it in pretty plain language: (not japanese)

http://www.espressographics.com/text/imagesize.html


I am really really sorry if I confused anybody!! I am learning myself!! :)
At least I figured out why my photos were stating 72ppi!!! LOL LOL :) WHEW!!!!

Melissa


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10/13/2005 8:10:44 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I'm really confused, now. I'll have to check out that site when I can think straight again! Thanks for the info!


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10/13/2005 8:18:24 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  I just found something out that I had NO IDEA and thought that I would share. You all might know this but I didn't......

You need to size the photo properly for EACH 'size' photo you decide to send to the printer. so: (first set the resolution to 300) then type in the pixel dimensions.--make sure you do it in that order.

*a 5X7 needs to have a 300dpi and it needs to be set at 1500 X 2100

*an 8X10 needs to have a 300dpi and it needs to be set at 2400 X 3000

** you can drop the dpi to get larger prints, but it does hurt the resolution. (the printer stated that you are assuming that the print at that point is large enough that you should stand back to look at the print and not six inches away) I guess that is where genuine fractuals comes in handy--to help increase the photo with minimizing the distruction of photo quality.

There is a formula that you can use when sending these to the printer. You multiply the dimensions you want to send to the printer by 300. (5)(300 dpi) X (7)(300 dpi) = 1500 X 2100

I am so sad to have found out that I have to create several sizes in order to get the best prints possible!!! I wonder if there is a computer software program that does this sizing for you!!! BUMMER!!

Here is a graph: (all photos 300dpi)

2X3 = 600 X 900 300 dpi
4X5 = 1200 X 1500 300 dpi
5X7 = 1500 X 2100 300 dpi
8X10 = 2400 X 3000 300 dpi
11X14 = 3300 X 4200 300 dpi



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10/13/2005 10:28:10 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I had found that out on another thread, and I believe Debby also e-mailed something like that to me a while ago. I go back and resize everything to order once they pick which proofs they want in which size.

Speaking of proofs!!! My baby/preschooler shoot proofs are up if you want to peek!!!

http://www.lifeimagesbylaura.com/-/lifeimagesbylaura/gallery.asp?cat=20446


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10/13/2005 10:35:12 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Laura your shots are great. . . I like number 012 the best!

Wish me luck. . . I'm uploading my baby order now . . . I have a few that I'm somewhat concerned about . . . the softness issue as discussed above. .. I always just crop with 250 in the DPI box because that is the output at which MPix produces. . . I reworked a few to get them a bit sharper hopefully .. . she picked several that I wasn't the craziest about LOL. .. but that is usually how it goes. .. we set up her 6 month appointment and she also wants to do at least 2 family sittings(1 fall/1 winter) and also her little girl who will be 5. My October keeps getting fuller despite being "full" two weeks ago . .. hmmmmm . ..


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10/13/2005 11:26:44 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
lol,lol I wake up this morning to see no one listens to the old broad-

hummm, 300dpi, huh,lol,lol
you guys deserve a razzberry!

GOOD MORNING !!!lol,


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10/14/2005 6:02:24 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Okay, I'm still confused. On image size in ps, it asks for the pixels/inch. Is this the same as the dpi? Sorry if this is a basic question.


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10/14/2005 6:05:22 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Michelle, CONGRATS ON THAT ORDER!!! HOOORAAYYYY FOR YOU!

Debby, a big PPPBBBBBLLLLLTTTT right back at ya! (good morning!)

Lynn, Pixels/Inch = PPI
dpi is a printer term.


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10/14/2005 6:22:45 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Thanks Laura,

Where do I find my dpi setting? I'm sorry if this is redundant. I think somewhere I've confused ppi and dpi. I want to reorder that 16x20 this morning. I cropped the image using PS to 16x20 at 300 pixels/inch. Does that sound right? Do I still need to worry about the dpi setting? I'M SO CONFUSED!! LOL!!


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10/14/2005 6:38:08 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Good Morning Lynn,
where it says pixels/inches just put in 300- you'll be fine.


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10/14/2005 6:42:47 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  THANK YOU DEBBY!!!!!!


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10/14/2005 6:46:18 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  dpi = dots per inch (it is printing in dots)

ppi = is pixels per inch (this is what your screen shows number of pixels in an inch) it is a resolution for the screen.

**This is why you multiply the 300 dpi with the size of the print to get your pixel dimensions. (I personally thought that made this whole thing make more sence)

**The only time you should ever really adjust these is when you send the image to print.

**But, since my personal images are mostly used for print work (or hopefully) I think that I am going to save all my images in 300 dpi. But, no worries because this can simply be done in later ;o)

They are different definition wise, but in photoshop the pixels per inch is where you would adjust the dpi.

Hope that helps.


Debby, don't take anything personally nobody dismissed anything you stated.


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10/14/2005 7:15:15 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  don't you worry Mel,
nothing gets to me that easy- I just like pulling someones tail first thing in the morning!
called that dog gone Laura already to razzberry her in the ear( since she did it to me right here on the thread) but she didn't even answer!!! uughh!
that's ok I left it on the mashine,lol,lol


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10/14/2005 7:23:13 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  Lynn, if you are printing that large you need a 4800 X 6000 image. If your original image is not that large then you are basically interpoluting it. If you choose to do this through photoshop then you need to only increase the size by 10% each time. Slowly increasing the image size will result in the best print. If you need the best results you can get then you would/might be better off buying a program that does just that. 'Genuine Fractuals -- or other'.


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10/14/2005 7:23:55 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  We must have posted at the same time Debby!! You are too funny!! Thanks for giving me a smile this morning!!! :)


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10/14/2005 7:32:23 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  well my friend Laura and Liza will tell ya -if I'm good for nothin' else-I am good for that,lol
Have a wonderful day! :-)


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10/14/2005 7:37:24 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  I looked at that Genuine Fractals program. It looks pretty cool! You can make a huge blown up poster from a small 4x5 photo.

I really thank you guys for all of this help!!!


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10/14/2005 7:49:55 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Ok..I was keeping up reading your threads re this pixel thing last night & this morning & SOOOOO my question is. I knew you were suppose to put 300 for the ppi, BUT I sometimes forget that & I order from mpix & I just upload whatever pic I want to order & then order the size I want of that pic. My biggest size I've ordered was an 11x14 & it came out just fine! SOO is it bad if I don't size my pics in ps? I look at the red cropping box in mpix to make sure nothing will be cropped off. You learn something new EVERYDAY!! Just curious!!

Debby...Laura is gone this morning..remember..she went to some fire truck thing in Austin to surprise their son. You seem to be in such a good mood in the mornings:)


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10/14/2005 8:14:36 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  I honestly don't know Alisha, it might be a better print if you do though. (From the eye, or microscopically-not sure) There is nothing that states you have to. You could resize and order another and see if there is a difference?? I would be really curious if you did and what your results would be!!! :)

THEN LET US KNOW!! :)


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10/14/2005 8:24:43 AM

 
Angela K. Harter   sometimes I feel like i'm reading a foreign language:) but I learn sooooo much from all of you! THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR ALL OF THIS!!!!

now, I have a question~has anyone ever heard of or use the new "cool lights"? I think i'm going to get a lighting kit soon but I was wondering about these....so i'm looking between these and a strobe kit....any advice or opinions?????


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10/14/2005 8:29:00 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  hmm..good idea Melissa!!! I'll try on the 11x14 cause I have to order that pic for my mother-in-law anyways. I'll also try it on the 8x10 I ordered! I'll let ya know!!!


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10/14/2005 8:30:18 AM

 
Collette Photography
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/21/2005
  hey, I know this is kind of late, but WOW, this thread goes really fast, I should have checked it last night!!
Anyways thanks Debby, and Melissa for the comments on my photos!!

Collette


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10/14/2005 9:07:09 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  I posted a new thread on this but thought I"d also post it here . . the thread is Thought to Ponder .. .
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My business is taking off . . . and I'm very happy about this . . . however. .. I often think about the photographers in my area that are sooooo awesome and wonder if some day I will be on their level . .. in my ponderings also comes the thoughts of how many helpers these studios have. .. one studio the main lady does the photographing herself and then hires a person to take care of the money end of things and then I "think" someone else to possibly help with the editing . .. and then her husband is a huge help in building sets, props, etc. Another studio nearby is a husband/wife team . . . I'm not sure how much of the editing comes in house but I'm assuming they do it . ..

As I look at my calendar that is filling quickly and then think of the time it takes me to take the pictures, editing them, prepare them for proofing, make contact with the customers on their order and finalize it as well . .. I quickly begin to realize that those things take up alot of time that I could simply be shooting more sittings instead. . . sooo I guess my question to everyone out there is what are your thoughts? When it comes to the Bottom Line dollar in this business are you money ahead to hire help(when it gets to that point) or will hiring that help reduce the profit enough(if not more) to just justify shooting less sittings and doing the work ourselves? I have a long ways to go before I am at this level . . . but it just has me thinking . . . I tend to only schedule a couple of sittings a week but am finding that I"m needing to do more to accomodate everyone especially right now with the holidays. . . but I don't like having alot of jobs going on at once when it comes to the editing and such . .. Add to the fact that I enjoy the creativity I feel when I create new collages, etc and at this point I'm not willing to give that up . .. so . . .after all this rambling . . .what are everyone else's thoughts. ..


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10/14/2005 9:22:22 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Well as far as so many jobs so close together-this time of year that tends to happen-studios fill,no matter who you are.
Grads will look to independant photographers , because the less expensive chains are now in FULL christmas swing- everyone wants to get soem type of portraits done during this time of year-it fall, school pics, new Grads, Christmas, and the first of the holiday proms,and the homecomming-IT IS THE VERY BEST TIME OF THE YEAR FOR PHOTOGRAPHERS!!!:-)
however, it usually comes to a screeching hault the 2nd or 3 rd week in Jan.
you'll get a break and you'll start advertizing to all those "Lovers" for some Valentine's work.
enjoy it now!


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10/14/2005 9:38:52 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  WOOHOO..I JUST had to come here & tell you all that my new Nikon D70s camera set will be here today!!! I'm SOOOOO EXCITED I can't even THINK!!! Poor Matthew doesn't even know what's in store for him today..hehe!!!!

Michelle..I've thought of that myself, BUT I can ONLY do photography part-time cause I work from home for an OB/GYN office doing their billing & well I LOVE that job & make great money at it & LOVE photography too, BUT I don't ever plan on quiting SOOO I told my husband he has to do the business side of photography. I'll do the rest. This whole self business thing kinda scares me anyways cause I'm scared of running into some mean people if they're not satisfied!!:):)


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10/14/2005 9:51:18 AM

 
Collette Photography
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/21/2005
  I know what you mean about not wanting to do the buisness side of it. I just started mine, and I love taking the pictures but I hate having to deal with getting the money from people.

Also, I have a question The last photo shoot that I did was a friend of mines mother who was having me do it for her sons senior pictures. Anyways I did the pictures and everything and gave them a ton of extras, like I gave them 15% off of the whole order, gave them extra exposures at no extra cost stuff like that. But she ordered a few 5x7 and a couple of 8x10 then she wanted to know if it would be ok if she got the wallets done herself on like a kodak picture maker at a convenience store 'cause she thought it would be cheaper since he wanted like over 100 wallets. I didnt know what to say cause her daughter is a very close friend, and I didnt want to be rude, so my question is do I let people do that, and are my prices for wallets to expensive that people wont be able to afford them?

Collette


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10/14/2005 10:11:22 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Well when you are dealing with friends it makes situations like this very awkward. .. but I have found that you have to stand your ground and expect ALL customers to follow business policy ... you might just mention to her that your images are copyright protected and that those places do not allow(although we know some don't check) for copying those kinds of images. I'm not sure what your prices are Collete and I will go check after I post this but I'm assuming this work is your paycheck . . . Wallets are where I make alot of my money so I would have to say you need to be firm with her but polite and simly tell her that all prints must be ordered through you.


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10/14/2005 10:17:06 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Okay ... just checked your price list on your site Colette. . . I think you are inexpensive enough . .. one other thing too . . . I personally want to have control over how images with MY NAME On them look . .. at Walmart and those places if they print up bad and he starts handing them out with your name/logo on them what will people thing . . . I charge $15 for 8 wallets if they order a package and $25 for 20 55 for $48 and $65 for 60. .. plus I have packages with wallets built into it . . . Ala Carte prices are higher!


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10/14/2005 10:21:55 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
  early merry christmas
early merry christmas
© Debby A. Tabb
Canon EOS 20D Digi...
 
 
Hey You Guys,
I got a new backdrop from a brand NEW company!!
HAND PAINTED!! 10x18 and only $139.00
I absolutly love the color and I spoke to the owners there and they are wonderful to deal with!!!!
here is some sample shots we did today- just the new photographers I hired and then my boy got in on the act!
here's the link:

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwalls*of*artQQhtZ-1


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10/14/2005 7:08:39 PM

 
Collette Photography
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/21/2005
  Hey thansk Debby, thats an awsome backdrop, what size is it?

thanks for the link I will check it out!

Collette


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10/14/2005 7:14:20 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  WOW! I'm gone for a day and this thread catched fire! I can't even see straight enough to read it all! We went to see Thomas the Tank Engine (trains!) in Austin today. Sorry you couldn't give me a hard time in person, Debby!! LOL! Loved the message, though! I'll probably call you tomorrow to talk baby pictures.

See you all in the morning! I need a snack and some sleep!!!


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10/14/2005 7:18:45 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Debby, I looked at the link for the backdrop. I did't see one that seemed like it was exactly the one you have. I like the colors and setting on yours. Do you have an item number I could reference?

Cute Christmas shots, BTW!!!


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10/14/2005 9:03:30 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  hERE YOU GO LYNN,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7552263234&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND COMMENTS.
IF YOU EMAIL OR CALL MARY THERE,
I'M SURE SHE WILL BE GLAD TO HELP YOU.
IT WAS A HARD DECISION I WANTED THE WHITE TREE WITH THE RED BALLS AS WELL, BUT 1 WILL DO.


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10/14/2005 9:35:20 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Good morning, all! I think I'm caught up!

Colette, stick to your guns! It's your business and your pictures, she came to you knowing your prices. You've already given her discounts and freebies, don't let friends and family take advantage...it's SO easy to let that happen!! They come to expect it every time...and often! Definitely explain to her that they are copywritghted images and other labs will not and should not print them. Maybe suggest that she wait and place a re-order when she feels she can. My senior's mom plans to do that soon. She wanted to place an order right away, but wanted to wait til the next pay period before ordering the rest.

Alisha, did you get your camera????!!!!!

Debby, call me this morning when you are up and have coffee in hand!


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10/15/2005 7:29:23 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Colette, OK, let me ammend that comment. I re-read your post and though about it a minute. I think if a client wanted to order THAT many wallets, I'd definitely discount them as Michelle does. It's completely up to you, though. It's YOUR business and you can do watever you feel comfortable with!!!


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10/15/2005 7:32:26 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Mornin Laura!!!! Ok so I knew you where going to go look at something on the fire truck/train thing..I just wasn't positive what it was..LOL!!!!hehe!!! Did Liam have fun? Was he surprised?

YES..YES..YES I got my new Nikon yesterday!!!! WOOHOO!!! I was up till 1 am this morning...READ the whole manual & took some pics of Matthew sleeping..hehe!!! I can already tell it will take way better pics than my mom's Olympus that I was using. YIPPEE!!! TODAY I'm headed to Logan Canyon to take some fall pics & pics of Matthew & his 2 cousins..Gracie & Madelyn...I LOVE LOVE that camera SOOO FAR..JUST gotta get use to the functions & all!!! The aluminum case that came with the package deal I got is a Vanguard. The website is www.vanguardusa.com. That's what was on the box. I really like it!!! I definitely feel professional now...heheLOL!!!! It was like x-mas yesterday receiving everything. Well I gotta finish this last cup of coffee & get my butt in gear & get ready to leave. I'll be back later this evening...If you figure out the VP with PSE e-mail me the directions if you can!!! THANKS!!!


Alisha


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10/15/2005 7:54:41 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  Alisha!! SO GLAD YOU GOT THAT CAMERA!!! HAVE FUN GIRLEEE!!! YEEEEHAAA!! Cant wait to see some pics with it!! :)

I just got my lights last night around 9:00 pm!!!!! I have not had enough time to set it up today because I had a team event I had to shoot and then tomarrow I am covering the state motocross race. I am so excited!! I hope my son does ok, well, hope he just doesn't get hurt!! :)

Maybe Monday I will try to set them up!!! I SOOOOO CANT WAIT!!!!

I just LOVE that backdrop debbie!! That is soooo awesome! I might have to get me one of those!! :)


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10/15/2005 11:36:54 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  WOO HOO Alisha . .. I can remember when I got my camera. .we ordered it November of last year. . . well it was newly released so it wasn't readily available yet. . . I had scheduled some engagement pics the day after Christmas thinking it would be there in plenty of time . . .well the week of Christmas I called and it still had not come . .. well on Christmas Eve morning she called and it had arrived wooo hooo I was excited. .. Congrats adn have fun. ..

Woo HOoo Melissa. . . I remember too when I got my lights. . . it was so exciting . .. you will love them . ..

Debby I love that backdrop and that is a great price. . . I am having our art department paint me one to use for my winter thing I Have scheduled with MOPS. . .

Collette I hope you got your dilemma figured out . .. do what you think is best but dont' let people take advantage of you . ..

I'm headed out to do family pics in a bit . . . I found a beautiful yard to use(with permission of course) so I am really excited. . . before we were just going to use the park . . . I was supposed to do another sitting tomorrow but the weather isn't looking as favorable as today(it's BEAUTIFUL) so I called and asked if I could move it up to today ... so I have two sessions today . ..I don't like to normally do that but when the alternative is to reschedule and it's an outdoor shoot . .. I'll live with doing two in a day . . . I'm just glad it worked for them as well . .. right now the clouds kind of keep creeping in and out and one sitting is supposed to be out in the the open with very few trees so I'm praying for clouds. .. we won't do it until around 5:00ish though . . . it's the sitting with the John Deere tractor in the background . . . wish me luck. . . outdoor in open light makes me a wreck. .. plus I have to be careful for my composition to allow for cropping to an 8 x 10 . .. and I'm not always the best with my eye on that . ..

I got my baby order all submitted and can't wait to get it . . . it shipped yesterday so hopefully it gets here on Monday . . . I also have some promo baby cards ordered(postcards) from vistaprint . . . I was hoping they would be here today but they didnt' come :-( hopefully Monday on those too . .. busy busy busy . . .


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10/15/2005 12:17:52 PM

 
Collette Photography
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/21/2005
  Thanks everyone for your input, I do have a discounted price for that many wallets I have it set as (8)wallets $8.50, 7+sheets $7.25, and 14+sheets $6.25
I added the last one in especially for them.
She said she is going to order them from me now, but she didnt seem to happy about it. I even tryed to explain that it wasnt going to hardly be any cheaper to get them done on the kodak picture maker, than it was to have me do them. But it just takes all of the fun out of it when you feel like they dont really want to be ordering it from you. I always feel guilty, like they think I am trying to rip them off or something. oh, well I still enjoy taking the pictures, but I am seriously reconsidering doing pictures for friends again.

Thanks again everyone

Oh, Debby I went and looked at the link you posted, and the backdrops are great, I will have to save up my money to get one though!!

Collette


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10/16/2005 8:46:16 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Honestly, Colette, I offered several friends free sittings and "just cover my printing and shipping costs" to get me started. Only one took me up on it and she still hasn't ordered any prints!!! (my first maternity shoot) But that's ok. Some will feel funny about taking anything for free, some will expect the world for free and then ask if there's anything else you can throw in with it. You can't please everyone! I would just definitely lay out all details up front for anyone else, friends or family. Decide what you want to give them for a deal. Then offer them most of it, and if they still don't seem happy, offer them the rest. (kind of like a used car salesman, dare I say.) They'll feel like they got a deal out of you and you've still only given them what you decided you were willing to to begin with!


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10/16/2005 9:06:01 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
 
 
 
UUUUGGGHHH! I'm having SUCH internet issues today!!

Anyhow, here is a shot from this morning. I found good size hay bales at Michael's for 50% off!! Just $5 each! I probably should have gotten 3, but with everything else I bought, I needed to keep it to two for money's sake! We're going to try to do some with Halloween costumes later today (if I can keep the cats and kids from making a mess with the hay!)


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10/16/2005 10:03:03 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
Collette. . if she's a true friend she wouldn't even put you in this position in my opinion . . . stick to your guns. . . in the end this lady will be glad you did too she just may never realize it. . .

My shoots yesterday went okay ... this group focus stuff is just making me bonkers. .. am I being unreasonable to want everyone CRISP and SHARP!!! Usually people only get 8 x 10 anyway and it works out fine . . .but I dread the day someone will want a HUGE one and I get something less than quality ...lighting with the groups outdoors still is a struggle too . . . to use the fstop I need then I seem to need a larger aperature and then I'm afraid some of the people won't be in focus. . .

Here are a couple from the one shoot yesterday ... we did the family and her one little boy who she hadn't gotten done yet. .. she wanted a collage for him and wants a family collage as well with their Farm Name on it. . .


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10/16/2005 11:11:50 AM

 
Tina Edwards
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/12/2005
  Hey Michelle, Those portraits of Jarret are adorable. His mother will love them.

Congratulations


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10/16/2005 11:33:53 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Michelle, I'm with you on the group shots. Outdoor group shots scare the heck out of me!!!!!! There are too many variables with it. You have no need to worry, though, all of your pictures always come out great!!


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10/16/2005 1:03:17 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
 
 
 
Ok Miss Laura & whomever else uses a Nikon..I think I need some help here. I set Matthew up for a fall shoot indoors today. Some are ok, BUT I'm having focusing issues!!! On your camera Laura what is your AF area mode set on? Single area? Dynamic area? Closest Subject? I don't know really which one to use. I use AF instead of Manual focus. My lenses are AF lenses & so I don't know how to manually focus them anyways. I press the shutter button half way down to focus & it was having a hard time focusing on my subject. Too dark? I used A priority mode. I used shade white balance. I used natural lighting from the 2 windows. It seems Matthew's face isn't really focused, but the rest of the set up is? I HATE learning new things..UGH!!! Do you use your optimize image setting in the camera? Vivid, Sharper? Hmmm..I can always do PS, BUT I want to try to produce the best straight from the camera first!!!! Here are a couple images attached!!! I think I need some guidance!!! THANKS!!!!!


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10/16/2005 1:44:32 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Don't use A, use Manual! You have hotlights, don't you? Here we go again!
Try ISO 200, Shutter 125 and f5.6 What did the camera select for the shutter on A priority??? If you set your A to higher than f8,the shutter is probably too slow, thus the blur.

I think my AF is set to Closest Subject, but I have trouble Auto Focusing at times, too. Maybe it should be Single Area? DEBBY???

DON'T CHANGE YOUR OPTIMIZE IMAGE settings! They mess with everything!! Stick to defaults on most of the advanced settings, at least until you learn what Shutter and Apeture settings work. Once you start changing everything, you never know what setting either messed you up or fixed your problem!


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10/16/2005 2:06:17 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
 
 
 
I feel your pain on the focus issue Alisha. .. I don't have the Nikon but my maxxum 7D is the same way .. as far as groups go anyway . .. I get good results with single people as long as the light is good . . . sometimes on my natural light ones they go soft on me even using manual mode and manual focus. .. You'll figure it out though . . just keep practicing . . .

Here is another collage I did for this mom . . it ended up being her favorite. .. Also . .. when the baby would get cranky I would take pics of the other two kids so in a few we don't have the little one in it . . .well there was one picture she really liked and wanted me to see if I could add the baby in . . . here is my attempt? Does it look fake??? Thanks!


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10/16/2005 2:54:44 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  ALisha. .. I was reading through the last few posts on the thread again . .. Since I don't use Nikon I can't really help you on that end of things . . .but for what it's worth . . . I sharpen EVERY image with unsharp mask that I plan to print. . . the settings vary with the shoot and each one because some are naturally sharper. . . I"m assuming you already know/do this but just in case thought I'd mention it . . . I can have the sharpest of sharp but on my screen it still looks fuzzy until I sharpen. . .


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10/16/2005 5:21:38 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  HI, Michelle!! BTW, your Harrison shots are ADORABLE!!! How beautiful!!! So you sharpen EVERY image with Unsharp Mask??? I don't do that, because I always tend to OVER sharpen and then they look wierd! Can you give me a HINT as to your settings??


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10/16/2005 5:36:32 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Thank You Laura. . . I should get them tomorrow in the mail . . .crossing my fingers for sharpness LOL . .. On the sharpening I use anywhere from 50-125% usually . .. sometimes I will go to 150 but very rarely . .. and then I set my radius at 3 and threshold at 2.0. That's using PSE 3.0 on an LCD flat screen monitor. . . those were settings kind of recommended to me and they seem to work . .. Anyway . . .the difference in camera capture might make one have to adjust those but it might be a starting point for you!


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10/16/2005 6:10:32 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Michell is right about the unsharp mask - it works great. When I use it, it makes a slight increase in the crispness of the image. Sometimes I like it and sometimes I don't. Not everyone likes to see every line on their face, etc. I use close to Michelle's settings of 75%, radius 2, and threshold 3. It is just a slight amount of sharpness, but I usually like it.

Michelle, I looked at your photos before I read the text below them. I never would have known that you added the child into the picture, unless you had mentioned it. It looks great!!!

For those that use mpix, do you use the color correction option for photos or do you manually correct them yourselves? I just want a feel for what others use. I always adjust the photos myself in PS and get it to where I think it looks the best, and I usually use the color correction option. Most of the time I get great results, but every so often I seem to get a slight color cast on the portraits. I have looked into the monitor callibration units, but they are really expensive. So, I am just curious what others do.


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10/16/2005 6:32:40 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Hi Lynn . .. thanks for looking at the picture. .. I color correct myself and then upload. .. I leave the box unchecked for the "do not correct" so I guess it gets looked at there also . . . only a couple of times has it been off and that was way back when I first started using them. . . I got a calibration kit from MPix(miller's) and use that to make sure my monitor is close. . . I have an LCD monitor so I can't get it exact but the colors are good .. just the brightness is off a bit! the kit comes from miller's!


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10/16/2005 6:43:32 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I also color-correct anything myself, first. I did a test order with the same print color corrected and not, I didn't like how they color corrected it at all. It was subtle, but my daughter looked very pink...almost a pale salmon color. Without their color correction, it was exactly what my monitor showed and what I printed at home.

Thanks for the sharpening tips. I'll have to experiment with that!

I have another baby shoot tomorrow with a 5 month old boy. I guess flower petals and daisies are out! She, also, wants little or no props, and she said she saw the ones I added to my web site and LOVES them, so it should go well. Wish me luck!


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10/16/2005 6:58:57 PM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Thanks Laura and Michelle for answering my question!! I'll have to look into the millers kit.

Good luck with the baby shoot tomorrow, Laura. Hope to see your posts soon from that!


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10/16/2005 7:06:57 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Thanks, Lynn! I'm STILL cleaning hay up off my floor from this afternoon! I got some cute ones of my kids in their costumes. I'll try to post them later.

Thanks, Michelle, for the info on the calibrator. I may check into that myself!


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10/16/2005 7:15:20 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
 
 
 
OK, I lied, here they are...


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10/16/2005 7:18:13 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Great Pics Laura. .. your kids are so good to pose for you! :-)

The Calibrator is not really a program but rather they send you an 8 x 10 print to compare to your monitor. . . The CD has the TIFF print on it . . just open it up in your editing program and then compare. . . it works best for me if the room is dark!

The mom from my John Deere family shoot just emailed me and she was already going to order 2 collages 1 for her and 1 for her husband . . . and now she just emailed and wants one for her mom and dad for Christmas so I worked one up real quick . . . she doesn't want me to put any of those in my gallery though until after Christmas since they are gifts and also will be on her christmas cards. . .but some of the ones of her little boy and girl are in my gallery now . . . they are a fun family . . . and she love pictures. ..so I think I have a life customer(at least I hope
:-)

Well I need to get. . . I was up til 3:00 last night "working" and I'm beat!


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10/16/2005 8:33:06 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Thanks Laura & Michelle for the advice. I know I just have to keep practicing!!! I'll get there. I won't have time to practice much this week though cause we will be leaving Thursday evening for Grand Junction, CO for 10 days!! What am I going to do about posting..hehe!!! BOY I may go in withdrawals!!! Nobody back home is going to like me cause I'll be wanting to take all their pictures..hehe!!! Laura you're kiddos look sooo cute in their costumes..Great set-up.

Michelle I do use the unsharpen mask, BUT sometimes it makes the faces turn out weird IF my image is underexposed. Oh well...all I can do is just keep on shootin!!

Lynn....re mpix I don't use the color correct with them either. I just do it all in PS & don't put a check in the box.

Talk to you all later!!! I haven't been home since 4 today so I'm going to go play with my pics I took of Matthew today!!! Have a great evening!!!


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10/16/2005 8:50:49 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  Hey Alisha, I think there is an adjustment period going from a point and shoot to a dslr. On point and shoots the photographer can get sometimes up to a f23 so everything from here to come is in focus. On DSLRs it is a slight bit different. It is not as easy just to point and shoot. You do need to put it in manual or aperature priority for shots like that above, it will help. Zoom in on your pics and see if you can identify what the camera was focusing on. Also, you might want to check your lenses. If you are using a sigma lens or another generic lens that is not the same brand as the camera -- they can have a way of talking to the camera 'wrong' and sometimes tend to backfocus--so check your image for spots where the image is in focus to see if this might be the issue. There are steps that you can take if it is but, you need to really look at your pics close.


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10/16/2005 9:40:05 PM

 
Delores Holloway
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  just wanted to take a moment to let you all know that the information that i've gotten in the last three hours reading these threads is great.. I feel as though I know you all, and what great photo's you all take..

i started taking photos of peoples kids in order to put them on holiday cards about 6 years ago, with a simple cool pix camera.. my card business took off and later lead to custom invitation work.. Always providing clients with photos for their cards..

Over the years people began asking if I could just come and take the pictures and print them for them.. the pressure was on and I started rising to the challenge..

It's been about 6 months and I have done about 10 shoots... I have to say I am hooked.. I bought a D70 and off I went to rise to the occasion.. i've had all kinds of problem that are obvious to the good eye, but one thing I have learned is that people love to see themselves in print. I have doubted myself up one side and down the other, but to the client I make them feel as though I am as confident as the next. The end result has been good sales and good referals.

now to my question: its time for studio lights.. I have bought 2 softboxes and two light stands.. I just read that you don't really recomend continous lighting.. i've heard good things about alien bees and white lightnings.. I will need two.. what should it be?

thanks for your time and thanks for the thread, I look forward to learning from you all and adding to the conversation when I can..

i'm a big photoshop gal, so I will be able to help with some of those questions when i'm not running out of room..

I found that the D70 has a bigger learning curve than I thought.. I practically sleep with my camera and the manual.. my husband thinks I have lost my mind sometimes..

sorry for the ramble.. it's late...

Thanks


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10/16/2005 10:27:18 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Hey Melissa..THANKS for helping me!:):)LOL!!!:):) THOUGH I was shooting with a DSLR..It was my mom's though. An Olympus! I just used the lense she had on it though & I really never messed with any of the settings & such. The lenses I have for my Nikon are 2 Nikon lenses. I think one of my issues was the focusing ring thing in my view finder. One of the focus boxes on the right hand side was lite up & so that's where my focusing was going. I didn't know that could be changed around & Sandy L told me about it & it was focused in the center of the frame. I will take some more pics & see if that helps cause most of my focus on my images WHERE on the right hand side. I will just keep practicing till it's perfect..hehe!!LOL!!! Talk to you soon!!!


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10/16/2005 10:31:35 PM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
 
 
 
Just wanted to share the collage I made of Matthew. THANKS to Michelle I'm figuring these suckers out!!!:):)LOL!!! I LOVE them!!! I have the fall pics I took of Matthew today in my gallery if anyone's interested in viewing them. THANK GOODNESS for photoshop is all I gotta say:):)


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10/16/2005 11:18:28 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Welcome Dolores!!! Glad to have you join us!!!

Alisha, definitely keep your eye on tha little squares as you depress the shutter half way, it tells you what the camera is focused on. Keep depressing half way until you are focused where you need to be. You may need to zoom in on your subject's face/eyes, press the shutter half way, then zoom out with it still pressed, recompose and shoot. This isn't always possible with little ones, since they move so much and you will tend to lose your shot. There IS a lock for focus, but again, when the little one moves, your focus won't. It takes practice practice practice, and then sometimes it still isn't perfect! Keep reading and playing!


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10/17/2005 5:20:49 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Hi Delores! Great to have you on here!!

Alisha, your photos are beautiful!!! I especially love the mommy and me pictures. Those shots are such precious memory-makers! It sounds like you are figuring out the focusing stuff. It is so hard to learn a new camera - there are so many new gadgets and features on them these days. I always have to keep an eye on the focus lock inside the viewfinder. I always set mine to the center square, but every once in a while I will hit something on the camera, or hold it in such a way, that the focus lock will move over to the side, and when I am busy, I don't always catch it right away. Part of my learning experience!!

Have fun with your photo shoot today, Laura. Good luck!


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10/17/2005 5:47:33 AM

 
Christy Jackme
BetterPhoto Member Since: 7/3/2005
  ok, I'm a little nervous to post to this, because I'm not part of the "group" yet. But I wanted to respond to Alishas fall pics. first, congrats on the new cam! And I wanted to say that my fave pic you took was the one of your son close-up where you see just a hint of the leaves and the hay bales. I'm not a huge fan of propping pics. (nobody shoot!!) I spent five years managing a Picture People and I'm propped out. I think the images should be more about the subject. And sometimes I see things way overpropped. You don't see the subject until last. But with his close-up you really see him. And the props serve more as a background and fill. Just my own opinion, but I think that's the direction you should go in. I've seen your work, and you have great ideas. I especially love your maternity stuff. It's clean and impactful. I would love to see you set the same shot up outdoors also. I think it would look great!!!! Hope you all don't hate me after my opinions!!!!


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10/17/2005 5:52:03 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  I have the little focus things too . .and I can set my camera so I can move to the sensor area I WANT it or lock it to one specific one or I can have it where the camera tries to figure it out and then you spend forever trying to keep it where you want it. But it definitely helps with the focus.


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10/17/2005 5:57:39 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
 
 
 
Sorry guys,I have been so busy!!!!!
Saterday after training all week, I had to run out and get the stuff for a golf turnament today,then Harly show,then Miramar Air Show, then home to dinner and die! then Sunday: got up ran to fry's for Printers(if any of you have a FRy's near you they have Epson R300 Printers till tuesday$79.00 w/$20.00 rebate=$59.00 for one of the best photo printers)the to costco to do shopping the back home to through it all together to Host a Family Portrait Day,so my trainies could practise-those who came got a CD of everything free.
here are soem shots,and I am off to trunament-I will check in when I get back- Larua doing a great job!! Michelle, nice Collage,Alisha: yeeahh! new camera,Great Job and Cyndee:I have not forgot you ,please let me know how things are going.
here aer some samples of the Sunday shoot.


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10/17/2005 5:58:08 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Wecome Christy,
all you have to do to be a member is jump in- I understand your view- but these are really not "prop Potrtraits " these are story telling Portraits and they require a loose shoot of props and subject( please remember the rule of 3rd's does't really apply to most portraits-the subject should in most cases be centured,unless there is a real need for them to be off center)
I had OM, Sears and CPI studios for years and I do know where your coming from , but it is a commen practise for those NEW to portraits to "prop it up" as they learn and go on to appriciate "Body Posing"
No one here will shoot ya for a prefferance,lol,lol
Hope you enjoy it here,
Debby


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10/17/2005 6:27:21 AM

 
Delores Holloway
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  thanks for the welcome laura and lynn.. and welcome to you christy since I got here a couple of hours before you.. (smile)

i understand both sides, and I think it boils down to preference, and what the client wants.. I have found with the FEW, that I have done the client wants the more candid shots.. next week, I have someone who wants posed and propped picures..

help, which lights to buy.. strobe? can someone tell me what they use..?


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10/17/2005 6:46:58 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  See Thread #1 2 3 for Steve Kaeser's link.
these are complete sets, also I will have another set listed about 6-7pm California time.
welcome to the thread.
Debby


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10/17/2005 6:51:33 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Dolores, you definitely want strobes. Don't even bother with hotlights. I use Photogenic 1250s, which I absolutely love. I lot of people on here use Steve Kaesers lights, which have been great, and Debby and Laura can tell you more about those. I also have heard wonderful things about the White Lightening and Alien Bees.


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10/17/2005 7:01:01 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Christy, HOW DARE YOU! (just kidding!!!)

Anyone's opinion and advice is welcome here. It's what helps us all learn and grow! I think we became a "group" by accident. We just kept posting and adding threads because we ran long, especially for those on dial up...which I think we need to do again!!! Debby? Do you think we ought to start another???

Anyway, I definitely agree that the subject should be the main focus, but propping is helping us all get started. As I've learned through my last few shoots with little or no props...it's hard! I figured, "that's how this all started for me with my kids, how hard can it be?" But when you get someone in front of a camera starting at you going "What should I do? Where do you want my hands? Where should I look?" it's a real challenge! I've been doing it, and running LONG sessions, because my intro offer was no sitting fee and no minimum to buy, so it is no obligation for them and practice and portfolio building for me! I know a lot of moms LOVE cute propped up photos of the kids, and others are telling me "just the baby and the backdrop" So I feel we need to offer both to stay in (or get into) the market.

Alisha, Lynn, Melissa etc...I need to practice with my focus, too. Anyone else using "closest subject" or should I be using "single area?" I'm open to suggestions! "Closest Subject is tough with props, and babies kicking their feet and holding their little hands out...then camera never picks up the face. I guess the only way to really fix it is Manual focus, but that scares me! I tried it with my nephew while practicing for my senior shoot, and they were all a bit soft! My eye sight, I assume, isn't what it used to be. They looked sharp in-camera through the viewfinder!!


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10/17/2005 7:03:42 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Morning, Debby!! And thanks!! Have fun today!


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10/17/2005 7:05:12 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Do keep in mind guys -that we go over all this Prop and Body Posing in the workshops and on the CD's.
But most of all,
PLEASE REMEMBER!
you are all doing so well and all this takes time to learn and practise.
So being patient with yourselfs is
a MUST!
the girls I am working with have had hands on taining with me everyday this last week.
It make a difference-nothing takes the place of being there to personally go over all this and have Photo play time with subjects.


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10/17/2005 7:33:21 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Laura. .. Does your camera not have a little green(or colored dot) that lights up when you are "in focus" sometimes I find that isn't always accurate but it does help! especially with manual!


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10/17/2005 7:33:34 AM

 
Delores Holloway
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  laura,

you want single area.. I don't know who came up with closest subject but it tricks the eye all the time.. things will look focused and when you get the picture it will be blurred..

i use single area.. you are right.. the hands, feet knees, shoulder of the client will be in focus and the face will be blurred..

thanks for the photogenic advise lynn, and the steve kaesers advise debby.. i'll look them up today..

if I buy the strobes don't I need a radio sync to get them to work with the camera.. I have the D70?


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10/17/2005 7:37:35 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Laura, I have been using single focus instead of closest subject. I focus on the eyes of the subject, because ultimately when you look at a picture, the first thing you are drawn to is the face. If you are using a good f/stop (I use 8 in studio), the rest of the shot should be in focus then. If I have more than 1 subject, I bracket my shots, focusing on the person in front, middle person, etc, just to cover myself. Hope that helps!


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10/17/2005 7:39:39 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  THanks, Dolores! I'll try it out on Single Area on my shoot today!

Yes you need an AS-15 hotshoe sync attachment at least!


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10/17/2005 7:40:28 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Thanks, Debby!

Michelle, mine does, but it lights up and beeps as long as it's in focus, no matter what it's focused on, so I can try to focus on the eyes, but get the feet and it'll still tell me I'm in focus...did that make any sense? I haven't had my coffee, yet!


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10/17/2005 7:42:28 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Thanks, Lynn! I'm using anywhere from f14-22 in studio, depending on my lighting (esp whether I use the backlight or not!) So are you saying that a smaller or wider f stop will give me a clearer image? With the strobes, I can't go any lower than f14, and that's rare! I'm normally in the 18-22 range.


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10/17/2005 7:45:20 AM

 
Lynn Snow
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/30/2005
  Laura, you'll be fine with the f14-22. My lights allow be to gone down to f8, so I use that out of personal preference, but you'll be fine with your settings. Remember, the most important part of a portrait is the face, so that is where the attention/focus should be placed first. Focus on the eyes and you should be fine!


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10/17/2005 8:05:11 AM

 
Alisha L. Ekstrom
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/30/2005
  Laura..JUST to give you my 2 cents..hehe..THOUGH I am having the same problem, sooo why do I need to say ANYTHING..heeheeLOL!!! BUT I have mine set on the single focus as well! I think where my focus boxes in the view finder where messed up is what my problem was..HOPEFULLY!!! LOL!!!:):)


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10/17/2005 8:08:34 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Thanks, All! I do try to focus on the eyes, but sometimes the camera just won't do it! I do sharpen the eyes a bit in PS, but don't want to have to! I'll see what happens today. THANKS EVERYONE!! So when are we going to get together for a party??? LOL! I always feel like I'm chatting with a bunch of old friends on here! Where'd our resident guys go, anyway??????? Tom? Jay? Kerry?

Hey, Jeff!!!! I don't think anyone answered your question up there! Do you still need the statuette info? I can check into it later if you'd like!


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10/17/2005 8:26:51 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  Delores I did a ton of research before I bought my new set of lighting because I made a terrible terrible mistake when I bought my first set for over $600. The lights were terrible although they were bright as bright could be the temperature was terrible and adjusting the white balance was just not working. I talked with a TON of people. But, the best information that I found was at this site: It really provided a lot of useful information! It also put lighting in a laymans term so you can easily understand what they are saying!

http://www.studiolighting.net/


I ended up going with the alien bees, I would have absolutely loved the whitelightnings but they were just out of my price range.

Alien bees hold their value so do novatron, I have seen both sold on ebay -- after market for just a slight knock off of what they are originally sold for.

To say the least the britek system that I just sold on Ebay yesterday went for WAY less than half what I paid for it just 4 months ago. This should tell you something of an investment.

I have talked with people like Michael Cotheran and he has had his novatron lights for over 20 years and they are still working and I am sure now that if he decided to sell them today he would recover a ton of money.

On that site look at the mono lights compared to a powerpack system this should be your first decision. There are pluses and minuses to both these systems but that artical or site really spells that out.

Of course budget is always a top priority so you will need to look at your budget, but if you buy a cheap system with not a lot of power - light source then you will only be kicking yourself in the future. (You can always take away light but you can not create more light with a low powered system) EXPECIALLY if you buy a system that has terrible resale value!!! TRUST ME ON THIS ONE!! So, concider the best that you can buy now and really research what you need now and then into the future. Because you will be better off buying fewer peices of quality lights than a huge 'kit' that has a ton of things that are not great quality. The reason is is becuase you can slowly grow your system over time with out having to ruin your investment by starting completely over.


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10/17/2005 8:45:51 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  Thanks for reminding me about that statue thing!! I found a company and was meaning to post it.


www.FotoFigures.com

Their phone number is 1-800-373-9435


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10/17/2005 8:49:51 AM

 
Delores Holloway
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  Thanks for taking the time Melissa, this shoot that I have is in a persons formal living room.. I think i'll go with the alien bees.. do you have the 400 wt or 800 wt. or both and what about sync..

i've shot myself in the past with starting over.. I won't that mistake again.. trust me.. quality far outweighs the cost with me.. (within reason...smile)
i'll check out the website you mentioned.


another company that does statuettes is
fotosports..

www.foto-sports.com
1.800.450.1590


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10/17/2005 9:21:26 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  I lucked out and found a novatron set at a camera store that was going to try to do portraits and then decided not do. I love it . .. I did have to send in one flashhead to have a new tube put in and it was like $70 to do that but they are a great set.


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10/17/2005 9:28:06 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  I actually went with a few 1600 and then I through in an 800 for artistic stuff. My philosophy was I can take the light away and it has a lower adjustment to dim the lights. I haven't even set my new system up yet!! LOL it is in the garage (I got it this last friday night) so I can not really give you any more info other than the research I did. But, I am really pretty sure that I made a good decision for ~ me ~. Ultimately we will see. If you do get the alien bees keep in touch with me!! I am sure you could help me out or even bounce ideas off of one another!!! :)


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10/17/2005 9:35:58 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  That was a great idea about getting that novatron! I bet it is awesome! Is that a mono set or is it a powerpack set?


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10/17/2005 9:38:54 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  it is a powerpack set with 250 and 500 wattage. . . for individuals 250 is plenty . .. for large groups I'm still working . ..just don't get alot of practice on that part!


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10/17/2005 10:28:01 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  Hey I just found this neat Greeting card site!!! Wanted to share!

http://www.illumacards.com/

It is kinda neat because you can create a greating inside the card and then have your logo imprinted on the back of the card!!!! FREE ADVERTISING!!!!--to everyone that they send their card to! I thought that was awesome! :)


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10/17/2005 10:58:17 AM

 
Cyndee Wanyonyi
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/7/2005
  Hi Everyone,
I got my lights a few weeks ago. I have not had a lot of time to practice with them (Fall colors...everyone wants portraits outdoors). I was able to get some practice in last Thursday. There were photos with bright white wash-out...others with perfect lighting (both circumstances with identical settings in light positions and camera settings). Debbie recommended I return all settings on my camera to the factory settings. I did that and no more Blowout. But also, no more pretty lighting.

I will be trying some more of the settings recommended above, but don't be surprised by my continued questions...


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10/17/2005 11:37:58 AM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  Hey Michelle, I know that the 1600 sounds like a lot of light but if you start using honeycombs and gells and softboxes then that all reduces the light output. Also, the 1600 has a five light range making the output like an 800 at its lowest. If you throw a softbox on it it is much lower, throw some gels and it gets extremely lower. So, really if you just want a portrait with no colored light or 'shaped' light then you would most likely be fine.

My personal style of photography is really artistic and I wanted to do some really fun and adventurous things with my lights. So I went with the higher power in order to keep my f stops higher. Alien bees has a great 60 day money back guarantee so I guess if I find I can do what I want with out that power I can call them. I just wanted to be safe without ever having to invest in something more because the lights were limiting. The lady that works at alienbees states she uses her 800's for her hair light. Just along the lines that I was coming from. Most of the literature states go with the highest you can get/aford. Since so many people/literature that I read seemed to think the same thing it was reasuring to me when I ordered them.

All in all I will keep you all posted!! :)


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10/17/2005 11:38:00 AM

 
Delores Holloway
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  hey cynthia,
which lights did you get..
thanks


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10/17/2005 3:07:05 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  Hi, Cyndee!! ISO200, shutter 200, f22 to start. Take a few, adjust the f stop down as needed. That has been my approach.

I used single area auto focus today...MUCH BETTER!!! Thanks all!!! I took A TON of photos of that little guy today! He was a squirmy little one! I'd get it just right and he'd flail and I'd lose a foot out of the frame! I need to remember that! Leave plenty of room for feet and hands to fly without getting cut off! I can always crop in post processing, if necessary! I think I got some really great shots, though!!!

How was everyone else's day?


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10/17/2005 3:40:20 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  Laura!! WHERE ARE THEY!! :) We want to see some!! :)

Melissa


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10/17/2005 5:27:33 PM

 
Jeff Dadey
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/14/2005
  Hey Laura, Melissa and Deloris !!

I appreciate you responding to my question on the statuettes. I was enjoying reading the back and forth between all of you and thought I'd post my question again in a day or two. :)

I had a couple of responses on my other thread and with your listings, I should be able to find the best place to go.

Again, I appreciate your response. I love reading your thread here. I am really just getting started and eventually would like to open my own studio also. Reading your comments suggestions and critiques to each other has encouraged me to keep at it. You all take GREAT photos and seem to be very knowledgable. I look forward to checking this thread everyday. If I have other questions, I'll know where to come.

Thanks Again,

Jeff


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10/17/2005 5:53:23 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  HA! LOL! Melissa, you're too funny! I thought y'all would be bored with my proofs by now! I purposely left my e-mail off so I could do some editing! Not too much to be done, actually! I have 89 useable images, not including those I'm turning to B&W! I'm only on #13!! I will continue to edit tonight (after I eat dinner!!) and post the link when they are ready. My client is leaving town on vacation for a week or so on Wed, so I wanted to have at least most of them up for her before then. I hope to have at least 20 done tonight!

Jeff, Glad you haven't left us! We kind of get going like wildfire sometimes and it's hard to keep up with every post! We end up all posting at once and we miss some things! Let us know how you make out with the statuettes!


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10/17/2005 7:50:09 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  BORED??? LOL LOL LOL!! With pictures never!! Your my insperation!! :)

POST~~~~~~~ :)


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10/17/2005 7:54:51 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
 
 
 
SORRY! I went for dinner and got into a show on TV! Here's a taste of the session...


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10/17/2005 8:52:20 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
 
 
 
For Melissa... You flatter me!!!


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10/17/2005 8:53:05 PM

 
Melissa  L. Zavadil
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/26/2005
  AAAWWWW!! Those are just adorable!!! I love the way that you have cropped them! It makes them all the more interesting! The one with the baby on his belly is so cute!! You captured his toes and his sweet little expression perfectly!!! LOVE THEM!!! :)


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10/17/2005 9:05:11 PM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  They were all cropped in-camera. I may have trouble getting a good 8x10 out of some of them!! But 5x7 should be great! THANKS!!!! I really appreciate your enthusiasm for my work!


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10/17/2005 9:09:05 PM

 
Delores Holloway
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  These are really really cute..baby 4 is my favorite but they are all great.. how will mom ever select..

congrats on getting it all focused as well..



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10/17/2005 9:26:03 PM

 
Sandy Landon
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/24/2005
  So so so cute Laura!!! Love the toes in the mouth!!! That is priceless!!


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10/17/2005 9:35:15 PM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Good Morning!
Laura, thanks for everything-And great job-you and I have GOT to catch up!
Cyndee, call me again!
everyone else I need a day to catch up!
I'm sorry it has just been a very busy time for me:training last week,the weekend shoot for them, Air Show,
Harly Show and yeasterdays Golf Turnament-
OK I'M BEAT!!!
IT RAINED!! We were wet and cold-but they played so we shot!
Anyway, I have a question , very important to get a answer for:
How many people has this thread helped set up thier studio?
Please Lurkers and regulars please chime in and let me know-
THANK YOU!


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10/18/2005 6:09:50 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  OOOO OOOOO ME! ME!!! :)

Good morning!

Thanks for the compliments on the portraits, Ladies! I'm really excited. I put the 13 images I had done up on my site and e-mailed the mom last night. I told her I'd put them up in batches as I get them done so she could see some (if not all) before she leaves. She e-mailed me this morning...

SHE LOVES THEM!!! She said "they are amazing" and can't wait to see the rest of them! She told me that I "definitely have an amazing talent!" WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Good morning!


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10/18/2005 6:31:10 AM

 
Delores Holloway
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/7/2005
  i'm new to the thread, but just in the last three days I have gotten a lot of help with what lights to by for my studio.. a definate help..
the thread ( if that is what it is called, is really long to load), other than that it's great....


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10/18/2005 7:03:42 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  I was trying to wait for Liza to come home from her Location Shoot to start a new thread.
I don't want her to get lost!:-(
or think we went running off with out her-though she is going to have a heck of a time catching up,lol,lol.
Thank yoou Delores,
BTW, Cindy got a 4 light system from Steve-Briteck.


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10/18/2005 7:11:32 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  I agree! For those on dialup, think we really need to start a 5th thread!!! Anyone???? Debby, do you still want to keep it a thread on BP?


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10/18/2005 7:13:47 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  OOOPS! We were posting at the same time, Debby. She won't get lost. We can just e-mail her the link to the new one and post it here as usual!


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10/18/2005 7:15:27 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  YOU GUYS ARE SPOILED ROTTEN!
BUT OK , HERES YOU NEW THREAD-LETS SEE HOW FAT YOU CAN FILL THIS ONE-YOU KNOW IT'S TAKEN LESS AND
LESS TIME,LOL,LOL
PLEASE SIGN IN TO-
THREAD#5:
http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/QnAdetail.asp?threadID=20008


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10/18/2005 7:39:46 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  LOL,LOL THAT WOULD BE YOUR NEW THREAD.
AND LET'S SEE HOW FAST YOU CAN FILL IT,LOL,LOL
I HAVE GOT TO SLOW DOWN,LOL


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10/18/2005 7:41:27 AM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
 
 
 
Still here....:) Recovering from concert hang-over...hehehe...a mom's gotta get out, right? Yes, this thread def helped with my studio! Sorry I haven't posted...Got a shoot for a 3 year old Thurs after school...Should be cool...gonna do the hay /overall thing...any other suggestions would be appreciated!! Thanks for the focusing tips...was having the same prob going to try the tips! Also, for those new to PS, if you soften a pic, amke sure you use a layer and go back to sharpen the eyes, something that took me a while to learn-I'm a self-taught PSer, so i'm still working on it. Here are a couple of pics from last week. Might have the oppertunity to shoot some concerts soon-that would be so cool!!


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10/18/2005 7:45:45 AM

 
Constance Kessel
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/29/2004
 
 
  todd and lexi
todd and lexi
200, 200, f22
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my hubby
do you light a black background? How do you avoid the whole floating head thing, besides not doing black on black?
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10/18/2005 7:48:09 AM

 
Laura E. OConnor
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/12/2005
  HEY CONNIE!!! Join us over on the new thread!! (an you copy your post over there?) I think the black on black is fine, maybe just more light on the subject if you want to, or even a backlight on low but pointed up at the subject's back? Debby???


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10/18/2005 8:01:42 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  CONSTANCE,
PLEASE POST THESE ON THREAD 5- GREAT QUESTION WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER IT.
DEBBY


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10/18/2005 8:02:03 AM

 
Sisterlisa B
BetterPhoto Member Since: 6/21/2007
  I know this thread has been around for a while, but I just wanted to add that you can find REALLY cute old wooden chairs at yard sales. Either sand them and repaint them or allow them to remain scuffed, as some shots are FAB with old chairs.


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7/12/2007 8:05:30 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Thanks Lisa, you are so right!
Iam running out the door, but glad to have ya!


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7/12/2007 8:15:06 AM

 
Shelly A. Van Camp
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/9/2005
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  Thanks for all the helpful topics here. I am also trying to take pictures using lights and umbrellas. I have a long ways to go, as I am still trying to learn and get images without shadows. Thanks again everyone!


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6/4/2008 11:06:50 AM

 
Debby A. Tabb
BetterPhoto Member Since: 9/4/2004
  Shelly,
Keep going there are 23 parts to this thread,lol!!
If your having trouble with shadows move your subject toward your camera more and away from the background.

It helps to know what you are working with if you can tell me.
and if you'd like to email, feel free.
Laura and I did that a lot while she worked with tugsten lights and then with her New Mono Lights and this may prove faster for you.
Thank you and have fun!
Debby


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6/4/2008 12:35:36 PM

 
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