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Pat Wimpee
 

Calling Chris Vedros


I seem to recall that on other thread you are a bit of a mathematical wiz. So here's my dumb question of the day that maybe you or another math wiz could answer. Everyone keeps asking how to resize photos without losing part of the picture. Couldn't you crop the picture to change the deminsions so when you go back to the 8x10 crop the formula would keep the important stuff in? I'm probably not explaining it right, but in my mind if you shoot in a 3:2 (is that right?) format, and you cut out some of the sides making it a different format, when you go back to crop and the 3:2 again it would leave more of the height that you need. What do you think?


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8/27/2005 10:04:29 AM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Well I'm not Chris and I'm not sure I completely understand your question . .. but once you crop it if you save it as an 8 x 10 it will always print as an 8 x 10. and you shouldn't have to crop again . . . now if you crop a picture to an 8 x 10 and then decide you want to make a 4 x 6 or 5 x 6 print from it you will notice additional cropping resulting in more loss of your image. . . . the only side that changes is the long side. . . your short side will always be there no matter what. Your camera sensor will always record the same size no matter what . . . I know this probably isn't a good explanation but the best my brain has today LOL .. .


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8/27/2005 12:01:05 PM

 
Gregory LaGrange
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  Need to clarify some more what you're doing. But you can't resize without losing parts of the picture if you don't keep the same proportion.
3:2 ratio is the 4x6 print. You must resize to 8x12 to avoid loosing parts of the picture.
You wanting to make an 8x10 without loosing anything in your 4x6 you have to shoot it so everything fits in a 4x5 area of that 4x6.
You try making a 4x6 from an 8x10 dimension, you end up cropping narrower. A 8x10 face shot ends up cutting of the ears when trying to make it a 4x6.


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8/27/2005 12:18:20 PM

 
Pat Wimpee   Sorry, I knew I couldn't explain this right. In this example the pic on left is original, On right cropped to 8x10. My thought is , some formula that you crop the original and take some off left & right that would change the ratio to a 4:5. then when you recrop your 8x10 still leaves the feet in.


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8/27/2005 12:37:56 PM

 
Pat Wimpee  
 
 
Great!! forgot the pic


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8/27/2005 12:39:04 PM

 
Gregory LaGrange
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  You shoot your original so that there's enough space above her head and below her feet. No formula for it. If her head and feet fit in a 4x5 area on the original, it fits an 8x10. Otherwise you loose part, or you fit your image on an 8x10 paper with white borders wider on the sides than on the ends.


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8/27/2005 12:47:41 PM

 
Derek Holyhead   Hi Pat,
This is what I do, in Photoshop choose the crop tool and at the top, just below the File, Edit etc. toolbar you will see the dimensions, set these to width = 8in Height = 10in (for you example pic) and I normally set the DPI to 300. Now when you drag the crop tool it will always be 8 x 10, so you can drag it around the part you want keep (Including the feet), if it is not exactly in position just move it around and when you are satisfied go to image, crop. Of course you are going to lose some image but now you choose what to lose, instead of just typing in the image size and losing what photoshop chooses ie. top or bottom. I hope this helps.
Regards,
Del


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8/27/2005 1:36:53 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  You could also have this printed in an 8 x 12 and then you would not lose any of the photo!


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8/27/2005 2:18:40 PM

 
A C
BetterPhoto Member Since: 12/6/2004
  I always (well, since recently) save my edited pictures in the original size and then crop at the last moment. I can't tell you how many times I edited a picture for 8x10 and then wanted to print it as a 4x6 or the other way around! I agree with Gregory, shoot your picture with a little bit of room around so you can crop to any standard dimension. Then crop it the way Derek suggested.

Or, be creative and buy a matt cutting kit and you can print your images to any dimensions you want.


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8/27/2005 11:07:09 PM

 
Michelle Ross
BetterPhoto Member Since: 1/1/2004
  Yep been there and done that Cherylann . . . I upload an 8 x 12 if I have any doubt they might want a different size of that same photo later. . . occasional I forget and crop to an 8 x 10 but I try to always keep everything in the 8 x 12 size so I have all options available when ordering.


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8/28/2005 4:14:33 AM

 
Christopher A. Vedros
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/14/2005
  Hey guys.

Can't stop to chat right now. Our stuff is packed, we're getting in the car soon. Hurricane Katrina is now a Category 5 hurricane and is headed for New Orleans. We're evacuating to higher ground. The news reports and predictions right now are about as bad as it can get. We don't know what will be left here.

Keep us in your prayers. I don't know when I'll be able to check back in.

Chris Vedros


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8/28/2005 4:47:43 AM

 
Sharon  Day
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  Prayers are with you, Chris! Take care!!!


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8/28/2005 6:23:09 AM

 
Brian A. Wolter
BetterPhoto Member Since: 2/15/2005
  Take care Chris. We will keep you in our prayers.


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8/28/2005 7:42:56 AM

 
Nobu Nagase
BetterPhoto Member Since: 5/31/2003
  Be careful and take care, Chris.
If you are in NO, I know it's such a hassle to get of the city...
...hey, if you have a laptop, find a place with free internet service... love to hear from you.
Seattle's Best Coffee is such a place here... and I go there for relaxation and to visit betterphoto every now and then...
Keep in touch.


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8/28/2005 7:44:28 AM

 
Linda L. Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/3/2005
  Oh Chris! Good luck! I've been watching the hurricane coverage all morning. Please keep us posted as to how it all turns out!


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8/28/2005 8:47:12 AM

 
Elisabeth A. Gay
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/2/2004
  Wow, Chris, you and your family take care, my prayers are with you, and Kathleen Parker also - please stay safe and get in touch with us at BP as soon as you can. Been through 4 major hurricanes, but nothing anywhere near as bad as this, but I do know how terrifying it is. Hang in there!


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8/28/2005 12:10:38 PM

 
Pat Wimpee   Hope you're safe Chris. Prayers for you and everyone in that area. Be safe


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8/28/2005 3:02:20 PM

 
Christopher A. Vedros
BetterPhoto Member Since: 3/14/2005
  Checking in. Thanks for the prayers and wishes everyone.

We've moved to higher ground, but we're not really out of the path. The predictions of possible damage to New Orleans are very scary. There have been many close calls before, but this is the first time there has ever been a mandatory evacuation ordered for the city.

Hey Kerry, have you had many strangers show up in your area? When we started calling around, hotels were getting booked solid for many miles in all directions. Most of the hotels in Houston were booked up. We are in Amite, LA, a small town about 40 miles north of Lake Pontchartrain. Depending on the path the storm takes, we may get back on the road to move farther northwest.

If there's anything left of our place near the beach in Mississippi after this, I'm ready to sell it and find someplace in the mountains somewhere.

Thanks again,
Chris


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8/28/2005 3:46:33 PM

 
Linda L. Clark
BetterPhoto Member Since: 8/3/2005
  Well hopefully Chris you are out of the area that will have the worst impact of the storm. Do you think it would be a good idea to hit the road this late in the day?


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8/28/2005 4:56:44 PM

 
Elisabeth A. Gay
BetterPhoto Member Since: 4/2/2004
  Stay safe Chris - I've just heard that another depression as formed off Puerto Rico, so here I am in the Bahamas with my fingers crossed, praying for you and hoping TD13 doesn't come to anything. Looks like it is projected to pass us without event, but you never know. God speed!


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8/28/2005 5:09:41 PM

 
Bob Cournoyer
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  Chris, I've got 2 spare bedrooms if you make it to Tacoma!!
Be careful...

Bob


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8/28/2005 6:59:15 PM

 
Carolyn  M. Fletcher
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  Stay safe, Chris! I know it's gotta be scary.


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8/29/2005 5:25:29 AM

 
Kerry L. Walker   Hey, Chris. Hope everything is well with you and yours. Even in Amite you are gonna get very wet with a lot of wind. The last news I heard before I left town for Oklahona this weekend (very quick trip) Kat was a Cat 2 headed for the FLA panhandle. The next news I heard Sunday was that it was a Cat 5 headed straight for the Big Easy. That is not good news at all for a city below sea level. On the way back home, we saw a steady stream of traffic headed west. There is not a single motel room available up here and the civic center is filling up. I've been praying for you and hope you ride it out OK.


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8/29/2005 6:25:03 AM

 
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