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Jill A. Johnson
 

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I have been very busy so haven't been around alot... so did I miss something?
was the contest changed as far as when the finalist & winners get posted?
today is the 21st which should be about time for the winners to be posted for June yet I don't see where the finalists have posted... ???
gads am I confused...
I was hoping that the changing it from the 15th to the 21st would help... wonder if it did???
anyone know if I have missed a announcemt stating a delay???
appreciate if anyone knows anything...
thank you...

Jill :)


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July 21, 2005

 
- Bob Cournoyer

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  I didn't notice anything. But, it's only 7:15 a.m. in Tacoma, which makes it 7:15 a.m. in Redmond Wa where BP resides. I think the staff is still home snoozing maybe?
Bob


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July 21, 2005

 

Nobu Nagase
  ...if anything was posted on this regards, I, too, missed it... but I do not think anything has changed.
...you know, the number of monthly contest entries was around 15000 when they pushed back the deadline..., since then, that number has increased to around 18000..., so, looks like they are back to the old grind...


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July 21, 2005

 
- Bob Cournoyer

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  "since then, that number has increased to around 18000"

It must be heck being so popular...:-)


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July 21, 2005

 

Jill A. Johnson
  Ok thank you Bob & Nobi...
I am sure it is a tough thing having to go though all the enteries...
guess maybe they could use a new & better way... hope they find it...
well I won't beable to really check on things for a day so hope it all comes together before the weekend...
again thank you...

Jill :)


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July 21, 2005

 

Nobu Nagase
  ps: ...is anything different or changed in comments by the Contest Judges???
...I saw some yesterday and seems their comments are very sporadic and also commenting on more recent photos, mostly this month entries, not entries from the last month contest...


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July 21, 2005

 
- Bob Cournoyer

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  "I saw some yesterday and seems their comments are very sporadic "

Well, as you said, they are up to over 18000 entries now.....so I would guess that they don't have a whole lot of free time for comments...or playing with their children or talking to their mates.....:-)

Bob


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July 21, 2005

 

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  Hi everyone, I think that the sort order of the comments by contest judges makes it look like the comments are more sporadic. If an image that has the contest judges comments attached is later commented on by another member, it sifts back to the top of the sort order.

I hope that makes sense. Also, we are working diligently to get the finalists announced today....stay tuned.

Thanks,
Heather Young
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July 21, 2005

 
- Bob Cournoyer

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  Maybe I missed it somewhere or no one has said....how many judges are there??

Bob


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July 21, 2005

 

Nobu Nagase
  Thank you, Heather. It's always great to see you monitoring Q&A and your responses in timeley manner.

...is it that I am mistaken that the Contest Judges are commenting on the recent postings as well as older ones?..., if so, is this a change from the last time?...


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July 21, 2005

 

Jill A. Johnson
  Thank you Heather for your respones on this it truly is appreciate by me & I am sure by all...
we will sit tight...

Jill :)


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July 21, 2005

 

Laura Clay-Ballard
  wow! 18,000+ entries to go through in a month's time! Bless their hearts!!!!! :>) And, how many judges are there?


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July 21, 2005

 

Laura Clay-Ballard
  wow! 18,000+ entries to go through in a month's time! Bless their hearts!!!!! :>) And, how many judges are there?


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July 21, 2005

 

Thomas Lindgren
  Will the finalists be announced today ??

It is almost midnight here in Sweden SO we are woundring'

Thomas


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July 21, 2005

 

Nobu Nagase
  Thomas, so you are in one of those lucky nations where you get to celebrate Christmas and coming of a New Year way before we get to...

We still have another 3 to 7 hours here in U.S. depending on what part of country we live in..., and where BP site is, they still have 6 more hours to go before end of the day...
...so, they may still make it... :D


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July 21, 2005

 

Joe Jarosz
  With 18000+ images a month, seems like thats a full time job in itself. Maybe should consider limiting the number of monthly entries someone can make, maybe 5 a month... Maybe 1? That way people have to chose only the best of the best to submit. With the growth and popularity here, being able to submit one a day seems overwhelming.


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July 21, 2005

 

Amy Anderson
  Well, the day's almost over. Think they've contacted the finalists yet?


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July 21, 2005

 
- Bob Cournoyer

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  I doubt they have...I haven't gotten my notification yet....LOL...:-)

Bob


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July 21, 2005

 

Thomas Lindgren
  I agree with Joe 18000+ is a lot of pics. One every seems overwhelming

Thomas


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July 22, 2005

 

Diane Dupuis
  Still no news in the early a.m. of the 22nd... :-(


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July 22, 2005

 

Jill A. Johnson
  I would have to say that is really alot of enteries into a month contest, even if you had 10 judges working at it am sure it's not easy...
back a few months ago when they started making request for some of the changes they would be making to the site to make it run smoother it was suggested that the amount of enteries per person be brought down to 10 to 15 a month instead of one per day which can give one person 30 or 31 enteries... although I was for it there were alot that were not happy about it... and I do understand... but now look they have tried to change the finalist post by a week changing from the 15 of each month to the 21st yet that really hasn't helped... I truly believe they really need to reconsider keeping it down to at most 15 enteries per person a month... I know alot of people that have been with this site for years have made great friends here & the daily postings have become parts of their daily ways... and that is all good but you can still place you photo in your gallery & friends can still view... but I really do feel with this many memebers on a site you really need to reduce the number of enteries so that the dates noted for posting finalist & winners can be up held...
this is my opinion but I have chatted with others that feel the same...
I sure hope they reconsider it again...

Jill :)


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July 22, 2005

 

Barbara Helgason
  I totally agree Jill! With a limited number of entries, we will have to choose the best picture from a particular shoot, and won't be able to enter several similar photos taken at the same time and place. That way looking at each days most recent entries will be more interesting as well.


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July 22, 2005

 

Jill A. Johnson
  thanks Barbara... now if we can just get 18,000 more to chime in & Jim & the crew see it I think we're in business... LOL

Jill :)


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July 22, 2005

 

Christy L. Densmore
  I agree with the limit. I don't submit more than just a handful each month, if I submit anything. So, 10-15 would be fine by me.


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July 22, 2005

 

Jennifer S
  I agree with the limit idea too! I normally submit around 5 photos, usually less then 10. A limit would be fine by me!!


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July 22, 2005

 
- Carolyn M. Fletcher

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  If they limit us, many people will go elsewhere. We've been through this before. If you guys want a limit, then YOU limit yourselves! Sorry if I'm sounding a little snotty, but the contest is why many of us are here, and if they need more people to judge, then they should hire more people. I'm for sticking with one a day.


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July 22, 2005

 

Margot Petrowski
  I'm with Carolyn on this one. I have never even responded to one of these threads, but I've read many that suggest limiting entries. I feel that if Betterphoto feels it's absoulutely neccesary then they will make a limit and may loose some people. We are adults and we can be patient and wait for the results. Of course we are all anxious, but the judges will choose finalists and soon. I think for a lot of us, getting up in the morning and choosing a photo is part of a daily routine....I'd miss it terribly.


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July 22, 2005

 

Joy Brown
  Char and I totally agree with Carolyn!!! We really enjoy downloading every day and don't want this changed!!!


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July 22, 2005

 
- Kathryn (Love) Scheet

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  I absolutely agree with Carolyn! and margot, Char, and Joy!

Limit yourself if you have a problem waiting for the outcome!


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July 22, 2005

 

Nicole Kessel
  Hi all, I don't know if it's true but I just read on another post that there is only one judge for all the contest entries. Can you imagine!

I'm okay with a limit on the entries. I never submit more then 10 or so anyway. I could understand everyone's frustration if we were competing for cash prizes but, we're not. Many people that enter the contest already have premium or deluxe websites. I think most people just enjoy all the feedback they receive.

I'm sure they will eventually do whatever is necessary. I think either way it will still be an excellent site. It's not likely I will be going anywhere if they make the change in either direction. :)


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July 22, 2005

 

Kimberly J. Whipps
  When I submit my photos eash day I know which ones I would choose as finalists, but the judges always choose something else. So if I was limited, I would probably choose all the wrong photos! And I agree with Margot, it's a daily routine and I would be very sad to see it go.


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July 22, 2005

 
- Carolyn M. Fletcher

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  I think there are about 5 judges per month. Can't swear to that, but I'm pretty sure that's the case.


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July 22, 2005

 

Jay Soldner
  Obviously this topic concerns many bp-ers, so why have we not seen a reply or a new thread from BP to answer these questions.

Whenever someone asks about photoshop techniques, someone from bp will (immediately) respond with links to their online courses.


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July 22, 2005

 

Joe Jarosz
  My question for those with the need to submit every day is..do you really have 30 or 31 pictures a month that you consider contest winning worthy? My guess is probably not. I could be wrong and if I am, I apologize in advance, but it just seems excessive. When you look at the winnners and compare to your images, are they at that level, or are you just submitting images to submit images..I read another thread and it was mentioned that people can still get critiques from the betterphoto community and not have to enter a contest, if thats what people are looking for. Limiting doesn't mean you can't upload everyday. Just not for the contest. As for not knowing which ones to pick, that's where the experience comes in and what makes you a better photographer. Knowing which are your best of the best, and which by the way may be sellers. If you are submitting 30 images a month hoping one of them will win but not really knowing if it will, maybe limiting will cause you to stop, take a closer look at your photo's, and make a selection of your best. Take a look at the ones the judge did pick and figure out why, and use that lesson for next months submissions. Last, for those that may leave because of the limit. You'll be missing out on a lot, and what looks like a lot of great things to come. If limiting makes things more efficient, forces people to pick only their best, and allows the people at betterphoto to do more to make the whole community better than just spending time reviewing 18000+ images a month, then I'm all for it. If all you want out of betterphoto is a contest site, take a look around, there's a lot more here.


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July 22, 2005

 
- Carolyn M. Fletcher

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  We like this one and have been around since the early days of the site. It's more to us than some of you can imagine. Many of us are older and isolated and this means a lot to us. Please don't screw it up for us. Maybe they could go by length of membership. The longer you've been around, the more you get to submit. Now there's an idea!


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July 22, 2005

 

Jill A. Johnson
  ok as I already knew there some don't like that idea & just as you don't like mine I don't like the way it is now... it's not that one can't sit tight & wait but when told something is a certain way as being in the posting of contest finalist 'will' be posted by or around the 15th of the month now the 21st it would just seem right to try to have it there more times then not... & it sure looks to be getting more difficult for that to happen...
I would hope everyone no matter how they viewed this site as a contest site would want things to be good for all memebers... sometimes change is hard to see or except but more then not change is a good thing... do the same thing the same way all the time you get the same results... change the way you do things all the time & you get different results... although maybe some would leave to go somewhere else (which I find to be a bit childish myself) many already post their images on several other photograph sites... if posting is what you like and you want the feed back then by all means post in your gallery & notify your friends of your new post... I feel that with this many enteries more people leave now then ever due to never having there work look at by the judges when it comes to the contest... I would hope that if it would better run the site & be fair to all, reducing the amount of enteries to 15 a month is not like ending your photography ability...
I do not mean to make anyone feel I am against them on anything I am just way for seeing less enteries into the contest a month...
I do hope that more feel this way...
I even thought how wonderful it would be if BP would just run a vote on it & that way we can know if more agree then not on this matter... I believe more do want less enteries per month then don't want it...

Jill :)


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July 22, 2005

 

Kristi A. Howson
  Just my 2 cents...I agree with the one per day submits or 30-31 a month. I always try to pick my best and like one other person mentioned, the ones that win are not the ones I thought would might win. Also it motivates me to take photos everyday that I can. The other sites I enter at allow 5 or more entries a day and is hard to keep up with. To me BP seems somewhat limited but the limit is something I can keep up with daily. I don't mind the wait. I guess 17,999 others don't either.


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July 22, 2005

 

Jill A. Johnson
  17,999??? humm I do believe there was more then myself that stated they would like to see there be only 10 to 15 limit on the enteries per person...
& I don't believe alot of people read these threads would be nice if we could put up a notice... but a vote would be even better...

Jill :)


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July 22, 2005

 

Kristi A. Howson
  LOL...I just realized I made that mistake..and I'm suppose to be good in math..hehe...then again photography is my great escape from dealing with math..it shows..*LOL*..


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July 22, 2005

 

Jill A. Johnson
  LOL Kristi... you may take your time on all the corrections... LOL
alot math to photography just more fun to figure I think...

Jill :)


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July 22, 2005

 

Amy Anderson
  How in the world did this change from just a simple question about the finalist results to a debate about changing the rules?! ;)


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July 22, 2005

 

Kay Beausoleil
  A vote for the 10-15 picture limit here! I used to enjoy seeing the new entries on a given day but now, there are too many to keep up with, let alone comment on.

And I can't imagine how the judges deal seriously with 18,000 to 19,000 a month. It can't be that hard for us to weed our pictures to one every second day? Maybe the quality of the entries could even go up a notch if we did?


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July 22, 2005

 
- Bob Cournoyer

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  It's a democracy, Amy. We all agree to disagree. Okay, let's all hit the "contact" button at the bottom of the page and request a number of monthly contest entries vote???

Bob


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July 22, 2005

 

Joanna Pecha
  Seriously, if you go look randomly at any 50 entries, seldom do you see more than a few that are even "very good" photographs. The proliferation of family snapshots, out of focus florals, etc are staggering. Now, the contest sure weeds those out, but I think people should self monitor their entries to include only their very best images, it will make this a much better site! I go for a ten photo limit, myself. Who can claim one great photograph each of 365 days a year...it isn't gonna happen, guys!!


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July 22, 2005

 

Nobu Nagase
  This site, as I understand it, is more than just a contest site. As Joe said above, "If all you want out of betterphoto is a contest site, take a look around, there's a lot more here."

When all you look forward to is the contest result, you will be unhappy when the result is not announced in timely manner...

This site is also for "sharing and learning", and "community - friends&mentors"... Many are here for these objectives. Therefore, even the photos may not be up to par for the contest win, they would still like to post them for other people to view and discuss..., that is "sharing"...
I love the whole aspects of this site.

If the contest entries become out of hand for the BP managers to handle and becomes bad for their business, then they will make the changes regardless of what we wish... Business is business, and it's a buisness decision in my opinion.

This is not the first time, this subject has been heatedly discussed... If my memory serves me correctly, it was only 2 months ago, I read the same argument here.

Also, BP attempted to limit the number of entries before (I think it was earlier in the year), they decided not to limit the number of entries at that time...

I am sure they will revisit this issue when time comes...

In the meant time, it may be ease the tension among the members here if BP changes the contest announcement date to a period instead, for example, between 20th to 30th of the month...
It would good if they set our expectation properly...


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July 22, 2005

 

Diane Dupuis
  I know I may make enemies - but here goes. BP knew what they were doing when they allowed free galleries - they were looking to increase new people coming to the site. I'm sure they knew that would increase the entries in the contest. If they wanted less entries they would put a limit.
I'm going to suggest that maybe paying clients at BP (i.e. premium gallery and website owners) get some kind of advantage - i.e. allowed 1 entry per day - and let the freebies have a limit of 5 or 10 per month.


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July 22, 2005

 

Kerry L. Walker
  Nicole, that was my remark about there being only one jusge - and I was joking. I really don't have a clue. Sorry if you took me seriously. Not many people do.

I agree there should be a limit, and that we should limit ourselves. Of course, that is easy for me to say since I have been here for several months and have entered only 1 photo into the contest. I mainly hang around for the discussions on the threads. If the load gets to be too much on the staff, they will impose a limit themselves, other than the one per day now in effect.


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July 22, 2005

 

Diane Dupuis
  http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.php?threadID=10273

It was almost exactly a year ago that they suggested cutting the entries down to 10 a month and started a revolt - big enough to chgange it back...


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July 22, 2005

 

Brianne Norgaard
  I am with Nobi on this... If you tell me that the contest finalists are going to be announced on a certain date, I expect that to be upheld. If you're not sure that you will get them done, I'd rather you tell me they will be posted a few days later, and ACTUALLY POST THEM ON THAT DAY, then to tell me earlier and not have it get done.


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July 22, 2005

 

Christy L. Densmore
  What about something I saw on another string, a "for critique only" category. I for one would enjoy that one. That may allow for more critques for newbees like me so that we can learn and perhaps only enter those "Perfect" shots. After all, allot of us have not been here long enough to know people to contact and say, "I just uploaded to my gallery can you take a look".


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July 22, 2005

 

Jennifer S
  "A vote for the 10-15 picture limit here! I used to enjoy seeing the new entries on a given day but now, there are too many to keep up with, let alone comment on."

I totally agree with that Kay! All these entries make it really hard to enjoy looking around. Thats why I thought a limit would be a really good thing. All of us here can limit our entries, but that certainly doesnt mean everyone will!

"I'm going to suggest that maybe paying clients at BP (i.e. premium gallery and website owners) get some kind of advantage - i.e. allowed 1 entry per day - and let the freebies have a limit of 5 or 10 per month."

That's a great idea Diane! Of course BP will do whatever they want- meaning if they dont want a limit, they wont and dont have to! If it's that big of a deal to cut down entries, then I guess it's not the thing to do. But I dont think the suggestions hurt! :-)



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July 22, 2005

 

Kerry L. Walker
  With what we pay to get our photos in the contest, we should expect better service. Gee, folks, this site is FREE (unless you have bought a premium gallery). Give them a break.

Christy, you don't need to know anyone to contact to get folks to look at your gallery. Just start a thread and peole will respond.


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July 22, 2005

 

Laura E. OConnor
  I agree that we should limit ourselves first and see if that works. If not, they may need to enforce a limit for us. I think if we want to get the feedback and exposure on our photos, maybe we should post them, see which ones get more feedback from our peers and mentors, and enter those few in thet last week or two of the month. We all would need to get more in the habit of checking the recently uploaded photos (which is kind of buried and harder to find on the Site Map page) rather than just going to the recent contest entries page to comment on eachother's images.

I think the judges have a really tough job with so many great photos out there, but I also agree that maybe there should be a post to let everyone know that the judging was tougher this month and would be delayed for a couple of days.

In the mean time...we should all be out there taking more photos and learning from eachother...No?


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July 22, 2005

 

David A. Wilson
  Ok people take a deep breath. Are we actualy getting upset because Its the 22nd and the results aren't in yet. Calm down. I think some people forget that we were all beginners at some point. Let us enter what we want. I have a idea, go take some pictures insted of checking better photo every hour to see if the results are in. Seeing them later does not change the winners.
Good luck to everyone in the contest.


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July 22, 2005

 

BetterPhoto Member
  why not just get more judges. I am sure there must be plenty of willing and able photographers out there!


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July 22, 2005

 

Christy L. Densmore
  It really doesn't bother me when they post the winners, I just feel bad for the judges work load.


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July 22, 2005

 

Debra Booth
  I don't want to lose the option of entering a photo a day; however, I also would like to see the contest work a little better. I think BP uses the free contest to draw people to the site, and it doesn't make a good impression when they are late judging.

I would also consider limiting the number of entries for non-paying members. How effective that would be, however, would depend on how much of the volume is actually from non-paying members. The contest would still be free, just not as open as it has been. BP could even offer a 2-3 month trial period to let people try it out before they enforced any limitations.


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July 22, 2005

 

Michelle Ross
  Some contest sites you have to be a paying member to enter the contest period . .. I don't necessarily want to eliminate the non paying members, but it might possibly cut down on the entries. . . I rarely have 30 entries in a month but have had as many as 15-20 I think if I've done alot of shooting . . . I participate in another contest site that has 7 categories plus a theme category and they choose a winner each day and then those winners in each category get to compete for the POTM contest . .. but there isn't an overall grand winner for the month there. .. I think they have a different judge for each category and the image is only eligible for winning for 7 days. you have to resubmit if it doesn't win in that time frame! I"m not sure how the judges pick but I don't think I could wait til the end of the month to choose from 18,000 entries.


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July 22, 2005

 

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  Double the judges - half the load!


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July 22, 2005

 

Nicole Kessel
  LOL-Kerry... I'll remember that next time! :)

I know there is already a forum on this site where you can post pictures and have people comment on them. But, I do not believe it gets near the attention the contest entries do... Mainly, because of the way you can view 30 contest photos on each page. Which allows you to flip through them easier and choose the ones you would like to comment on or look at. Mabye if they set up a critique forum similiar to that of the contest we would see a decline in the number of "not-so-great" entries.


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July 22, 2005

 

Cynthia M. Kasuba
  I am also wanting to know if I didnt look in the right area for the June results. But now knowing how many entries acually come through and how many judges there are. I dont even see how they can do it! I give them credit. As far as the entries numbers, there were a few ppl that made comments I agree with. I agree with , do you really have 30 photos a month that are contest material? Dont get me wrong, maybe I dont have a place in speaking my opinion as I have only been here for a few months. But I love this site. Goodness its my homepage. And of course I am waiting like the rest of you. But theres nothing we can do other than if ppl are real avid contest goers, and they want results more quicker.. maybe we should take it upon ourselves to minimize this. Like someone said we are grown adults, and we dont need this to become a betterphoto rule to make it happen. As you can tell from the numbers, sounds like they got alot on thier plate as it is already. thanks for reading.


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July 22, 2005

 
- Bob Cournoyer

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  Cynthia, couple months or couple years...every opinion is welcome...and, by the by, you picked an excellent date to join..my birthday...not birth year, that was a half + century ago...:-)
And, you're welcome for reading..
Bob


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July 22, 2005

 

Laura E. OConnor
  Nicole, there is a section for recent uploads that displays like the contest entries page. All photos uploaded go there whether in the contest or not. Just click at the bottom of the page on Site Map. From there go to the BetterPhoto Photo Discussions section, click on Recently Uploaded Photos. I used to post several per day to my gallery without entering into the contest and they would show here, but no one looks there, it seems, and no one would ever comment on anything until I started uploading only one per day and entering them into the contest. I think the powers that be should make this link one of the choices on the "The Forums" tab we all use. Also...since they changed the tabs, you have to go through multiple steps to get to the "Friendly Praise" section. I like the "New Photo Discussions" but I like seeing 25-30 per page like on the other section.


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July 22, 2005

 
- Bob Cournoyer

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  Wow, thanks, Laura!! I never knew that existed. I'm one of those who reads the forum and checks the contest entries for helpful hints. Now I have something else to do with my time. The "recent uploads" includes all the stuff from all the various BP classes, too?? This is amazing...:-)
Bob


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July 22, 2005

 

Laura E. OConnor
  No problem. Yep- every upload! Glad I could supply useful info! If they would just make that a more prominent link and publicize it, I think they could cut their entry load significantly!!


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July 22, 2005

 

Julie Gamicchia
  Not that I think that I will be a finalist, but could someone from BP give us an idea at least of when the finalist will be posted????


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July 22, 2005

 
- Bob Cournoyer

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  Great "Crab" in your gallery, Julie G....:-)

Bob


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July 22, 2005

 

Julie Gamicchia
  Why thank you Bob! :) Julie


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July 22, 2005

 

Nicole Kessel
  Hey! Thanks Laura! There is all kinds of stuff on the site map I didn't know about! :)


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July 22, 2005

 

Jill A. Johnson
  I am not angry or upset with anyone I do want that to be known... I just started this thread due to the lateness of the posting of the finalists...
I in no way am feeling mad at all... just to clear that up...
now...

"I'm going to suggest that maybe paying clients at BP (i.e. premium gallery and website owners) get some kind of advantage - i.e. allowed 1 entry per day - and let the freebies have a limit of 5 or 10 per month."
excuse me???? so what is that saying if you pay of the judges you have more chances of winning... hummm that doesn't seem like a fair free photography contest for all, to me anyways???? is that??? now to me that hurts... hummmm
so if I buy a site or win a site then I become a paying memeber & I should be looked at differently as to how many photographs I can enter???? hummm...
well how about all of the paid site memembers could just be sectioned off into their own contest & let the non paid site holders have the free one...
hummm.... somehow this has hit a bit of a sour spot in my mouth & I just don't see why some people think because they pay for a site beyond the free one offered here they should be treated different... the site says Free To All Photo Contest...
I am a bit sadden...
also got a few emails telling me I can forget ever making finalist by stirring up such trouble here... gaddddddddddddddddddddds...
I am not trying to stir up anything was just thinking it was time for BP to look at a problem that has been around for sometime & other actions taken have not seemed to help...
so be it if people are thinking this is some hot headed thing I have... I really am not angry at all & well as far as the emails go... I will try to answer the ones I can... if that's the rules of the contest that one can't have their opinion, well... oh well...

Jill :)



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July 22, 2005

 

Julie Gamicchia
  Jill, don't worry about it I re-read your initial comment, it's not you....but maybe you sparked the rest of us who are impatient!!!!:) No worries!! JG


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July 22, 2005

 
- Carolyn M. Fletcher

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  I'm sure we will wake up to finals in the morning.


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July 22, 2005

 

Benica Walsh
  Dagnabbit, Jill don't you already have enough finalist icons in your gallery already?!! Kidding, I'm kidding. You take wonderful pictures by the way. And really that's the point of this website isn't it? It's about photography. How to take pictures. How to improve your picture taking. The contest is a perk. Someone stated earlier in this thread that maybe the reason everyone has their feathers ruffled is because we're all anxious to see the finalist list for June. I think that is soooo true. This is a great site, and I think it is a shame when people start sending e-mails of the nature that Jill previously stated. As Julie G. said, no worries. We're all blessed to have a love for doing something so great and inspiring...that would be PHOTOGRAPHY. Don't stop giving your input, Jill. By the way, I love your expression "Gads". That's just great! :D Stay encouraged.


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July 22, 2005

 

Joe Jarosz
  Can we all go back to taking pictures now?


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July 22, 2005

 

Laura E. OConnor
  Jill, I can't speak for those e-mails you received, they may have been in jest, but I think they were of poor taste. None of this brainstorming is your fault, it happens on every thread, everyone gets WAY off topic and starts reinventing the wheel. I definitely see your point, which is why I still say that we self-regulate to only our best shots for entries to help make the judges' jobs easier. If that doesn't work, they may have to regulate that for us, but I think it should be across the board, not singling out any one group. Other sites do have tiers, and you have a certain amount of gallery space and are allowed a certain number of contest entries per month depending on what you pay. I like BP because that's not the case at all! Everyone is (supposed to be) equal here, whether beginner, professional, paying or not! Let's not lash out at eachother!


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July 22, 2005

 

Elisabeth A. Gay
  Well, I do think the judges have quite a task on their hands - wouldn't want to be them!! Love the anticipation every month, and when they are late, it just hightens to excitement. I don't mind if a limit is imposed, this site is so popular and new galleries are being added on daily, so sooner or later it may be necessary to give us a limit. And Jill, you are entitled to your opinion, and it is sad when people get so bent out of shape over something like this that they feel they have to send you what amounts to hate mail. Sorry you have had to be exposed to that. Now I'm off to check your gallery to see what I've been missing, as I see from the comments above you have some pretty neat stuff there!! :)


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July 22, 2005

 

Julie Gamicchia
  GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU, I HAVE LOOKED AT MOSTLY ALL OF YOUR GALLERIES AND I AM HONORED TO BE AMONG YOU!


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July 22, 2005

 

Benica Walsh
  Humility is a beautiful thing, Julie. Your pictures are great. I really like the Untitled flag.


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July 22, 2005

 

Julie Gamicchia
  Thank you Benica! Julie


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July 22, 2005

 

Kerby Pfrangle
  Julie

I really like the untitled flag and the little girl that is untitled in the yellow and coral colored dress.

Very nice work.

Kerby


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July 22, 2005

 

Jill A. Johnson
  LOL Benica... well I have been lucky to have had at least one finalist every month sense I started entering here at BP... so guess we will see if my opinions are getting me into trouble... sigh...
just a note thank you to all that are emailing me now is nice to get nice emails too... I do appreciate all the great people & thank you for seeing where I was coming from & that I wasn't trying to make a problem just suggesting that maybe it was time to look a solution to what seems to be a on going problem...
thank you all!!!

Jill :)


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July 22, 2005

 

Julie Gamicchia
  Kerby, thank you actually the photo that I tiltled "Alex" (I think that was the one)was inspired by one of your photos of your daughter, with the backlighting! Thank you. I am honored really. JG


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July 22, 2005

 

Laura E. OConnor
  FINALISTS ARE OUT!


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July 22, 2005

 

Diane Dupuis
  Congrats everyone and good luck in the next round!


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July 22, 2005

 

Julie Gamicchia
  Laura, do they email the finalists?? thank you!


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July 22, 2005

 

Laura E. OConnor
  I guess they post them simultaneously with e-mailing all the finalists to notify them. Congrats to all who got finalists & Good luck!


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July 22, 2005

 

Faustina G. Steinman
  WOW, over 20,000 photos entered this month! Thank you judges for all of your hard work and for making BP an awesome community I am proud to have joined!


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July 22, 2005

 

Jill A. Johnson
  guess the emailers knew what they were talking about... hummmmmmmm...
oh well I guess I just don't know how to keep my mouth shut or is that just don't pay enough to matter...???
sorry have a sour taste right now...
do know all of you that have wrote me I appreciate it & don't worry I don't let games get in my way of my photography... keep shooting & joining the art...

Jill :)


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July 22, 2005

 

Julie Gamicchia
  Congrats too all of the June finalists! And to all of the of the entries.. encluding my own..who did not make it so far, don't lose hope, it is what it is. You are awesome! JG


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July 22, 2005

 

Cynthia M. Kasuba
  congrats to all finalists. Ill be crossing my fingers for the July contest..lol

you are all so talented.


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July 22, 2005

 

Brendan Knell
  Just a suggestion, if it really is starting to take a toll on the judges, they could hire some people(or get some of us,I know I would be willing), to in their spare time just weed out the photos that really shouldn't be there. Like the out of focus ones, poorly composed ones, photos that are really just memories, ect.


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July 22, 2005

 
BetterPhotoJim.com - Jim Miotke

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  Hi everybody,

Two things:

1) I appreciate all your suggestions. We can't however afford to hire more people at this time. And teaching volunteers how to use our complicated judging system is no small undertaking either. However we are developing many new tricks to speed things allow. In the meantime, we greatly appreciate your patience. If you haven't seen them yet, the June finalists are amazing! And the winners should be coming along later today or tomorrow.

2) IMPORTANT: Thanks to our developer Jay Wadley, we now have a new Image Uploader that I think you're going to love! This new drag-and-drop uploader will greatly speed up the rate of transfer, and allow you to do cool things like title and rotate your image before uploading. You don't even have to downsize your image before uploading anymore.

It does affect the way you enter the contest though. Now, entering photos into the contest will be a two-step process. First, you get images up into your pool of photos, then you select which photo you want to enter each day. I think you'll find this process so much better. And we have the old method still around in case you do not want to use or cannot use the new image uploader.

To use the new image uploader, just go to your Member Center, and click the Upload New Photos link. Follow the instructions and you'll get to take this cool new tool for a spin.

Let us know how it goes. Although we have tried to work everything out already, there are bound to be a few bugs as we implement this new system. If you get page errors, please contact us with the URL and description of the problem. But let's knock on wood and hope for the best.

Again, enjoy the new image uploader... and tell all your friends.

I am so thrilled with Jay's work, I can't begin to express my gratitude.


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July 23, 2005

 

Jill A. Johnson
  that is great news Jim... thank you...
and I think it may explain the screw up I had trying to load a contest entry this late morning... sigh...
well oh well it finally did go in it just went into the wrong place so hope Heather can help me out there & place it to where it should go...
again Great News Jim...
I did just upload a photograph into my gallery & it worked like a charm...
thank you oh & Jay...

Jill :)


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July 23, 2005

 

Sharon Day
  I LOVE the new image uploader! This is so neat! If there was one thing I could change about it if I could is I would have the photos that I have already entered into the contest for the current month identified, or maybe even disabled from entering again. I'm old and have trouble remembering what I've entered as I go along. It would be really convenient to see as I view my photos if I've entered a particular photo or not. I know nothing about web development so I have no idea if this is even possible. It would be cool for us oldies though.

Now, before someone tells me to keep notes...I do :).


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July 24, 2005

 
- Bob Cournoyer

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  Sharon, I try to remember at or near the end of each month to bring up my "recent contest entries" and then just print that page on plain paper. I find it much easier cuz I can never remember what I've entered...:-)

Bob


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July 24, 2005

 

Terry R. Hatfield
  The New Image Uploader Seems To Work Well Jim!With The Exception Of(Or Continue To Use The Old Method)It Doesen't Give You The Option To Display The Uploaded Images,You Have To Click Display And Then Submit After The Upload,I Can See The New Uploader Being Good For People That Dont Have Imaging Software But Most Of Mine Are Shot In Raw And Changed To A Tiff,Rather Than Work On A Large Tiff File Its Cropped And Or Downsized To The Size For The Site Which Makes Editing Go Much Faster With The Smaller Size.
I Did Find Out That You Can Click On Upload New Images And Click On (Single Image Uploader)It Will Give The Option To Display,But Not Doing It The Old Way,Just A Quirk?


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July 24, 2005

 

Patricia A. Kuniega
  Thanks Jim and Jay!! Love the new uploader. As Martha Stewart would say, "It's a good thing!"


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