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JULIE JOHNSTON
 

HOW TO SHOOT PICTURES AT A CIRCUS


I HAVE BEEN TO TWO CIRCUS'S AND BOTH TIMES MY PICTURES COME OUT REAL GRAINY. I HAVE A CANON REBEL GII. WHAT TYPE OF FILM SHOULD I USE AND WHAT SETTING. IT SEEMS WHEN I TAKE PICTURES WITHOUT ALOT OF LIGHT THEY ALL SEEM TO BE GRAINY. CAN ANYONE HELP?


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July 19, 2005

 

robert G. Fately
  Julie, you need to understand that there is an inverse relationship between lighting and grain. That is, all else being equal, the more light you have, the less grainy your images will look, and vice versa. In the digital world, you can replace the word "grain" with the word "noise" and the same holds true - and digital noise looks just like grain!

It takes a certain amount of light to properly expose a piece of film. If you don't use a flash (for additional light - though that works up to only a few yards) or have a "faster" lens (that is, one with a wider aperture - a lower f-stop number) then a darker venue will yield grainy shots.

Now, if you know you will be in a dark place taking pictures, then you would buy "faster" film - that is, film with a higher ISO (or ASA, for the old timers) number. ISO numbers are proportional - it takes 1/2 as much light to properly expose ISO200 film as it does to properly expose ISO100 film. And you can buy film today with speeds of ISO800 or even ISO1600.

So, for one thing, using faster film might help you. Be aware, however, that as a rule, faster film has higher grain than slower film - that's why landscape photographers who want to capture every spec of detail use the slowest film they can muster - even when it means using a tripod and a slow shutter speed to expose the film properly.

So use some faster film, it might help. I say this because if you were not selecting fast film for use in your Rebel (i.e. - if you've been using Kodacolor 100, say) then the odds are the film was very badly underexposed. No doubt the photo lab's equipment tried to bring up any image it could (there's a lot of automation in those machines, even the ones at drugstores) by overdeveloping the film and/or underexposing the paper when making a print. Either way, those attempts tend to create a much grainier photo (which is, naturally, better than no photo at all). the point is that if you use fast film, even though it will be grainier than slow film on a bright day, it will be finer grained than slow film developed to reverse the effects of bad underexposure.

Hope that helps,
BobF

PS: perhaps next time you can type in lower case letters - in the etiquette of the Internet your question is tantamount to yelling...


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July 19, 2005

 

brigitte stahre
 
 
 
for several years I took some mediocre, at best, pics at the circus with my olympus camedia.. had high hopes for my new fuji finepix and the attached was the best out of 150 pics.. [ you can imagine my disappointment] and that was still wayyyy better than the ones with the camedia


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July 19, 2005

 

robert G. Fately
  First of all, Brigitte - your flash was utterly useless at this distance - for all intents and purposes this is an available light photo.

Her sequined leotard was probably somewhat multicolored, but no doubt the low light and consequent high speed setting required on the camera led to electronic noise, which is sort of like grain in film.

Don't feel bad - this is a situation where you simply have few controls. When pros shoot sporting events in large stadiums and arenas, they have banks of powerful strobes wired in the rafters and triggered with a radio transmitter attached to their cameras. From the audience you can't even see the flashes (remenber, they are 1/1000th of a second or less in duration) but the film or CCD is exposed at exactly the right moment and gets the benfit of the light.

For the average attendee, this is, simply put, impossible. Your shot is not bad, considering. WHen you see all those people in a stadium (or the circus) taking photos from their seats and their little flashes are popping off, you can look on with the bemused knowledge that they too are doing nothing insofar as exposing their film or chips.


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July 19, 2005

 

brigitte stahre
  thanks bob, I understand the fuji finepix has a unique way to use available light.. but, it appears to function much better when I raise the flash... of course, I had to also do some playing around in ps..
julie, may we see some of the pics you took..


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July 20, 2005

 

JULIE JOHNSTON
  Thank you both for your answers. I will help the next go around. I need to get signed up so that I can show you may pictures.
Brigitte, your pictures are great...
Bob, sorry I am bad about typing in caps it makes it much faster.


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July 20, 2005

 

brigitte stahre
  thanks julie.. looking forward to seeing your pictures


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