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Olivia Navarro
 

Copyright warning for all BPers!


My husband told me a few days ago that there is an internet search engine out there called Firefox that will allow the user to right-click on a photo and save it to their own computer.

I notified the BP staff about this in two different emails but still have not received a response.

I just wanted to warn people so that you can take your own measures to protect your work.


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June 14, 2005

 

Olivia Navarro
  I just recieved this response from Heather Young at BP:

The nature of the Web makes it practically impossible to truly stop a determined thief. You see, you are publishing the photos by putting them on a Web site. Once they are out there, there is not much you can to do make them unavailable (both to the good people and the bad thieves).
You do have a few options, though. One is the JavaScript protection that we have on our site (However, I know that you mention this can be bypassed via Firefox). This deters "casual image thieves" - innocent people who just don't know any better. To stop the die-hard evil thieves in their tracks, you can:

a) Keep your images relatively small. Web display requires much less resolution than print. Therefore, if you keep your images small, the thief at least can't print your images or try to sell them for print production (where most of the money-making occurs in the photography world). Images that are uploaded to our site are small and do not have a great resolution making them viable for copying.

b) Watermark your images. Use Photoshop or another program to put your name and a copyright symbol on your picture.

c) Use special software that digitally marks your images, making them unviewable by anyone without the same special software. But I don't recommend this method if you are interested in sharing or selling your photographs. By using it, you are forcing potential clients and other viewers to install special software. They will rarely do this and, thus, you will immediately lose your audience as well as your potential customers.

The other thing you can do is register each of your images with the US Copyright office. This will at least give you a legal leg to stand on, if you ever have to take an image thief to court.

The truth of the matter is that the benefits of publishing and promoting your work on the Web far outweigh these potential risks.

Thanks,

Heather Young
heather at betterphoto.com


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June 14, 2005

 

Brian A. Wolter
  Olivia, there really is no way of stopping someone from getting your pictures. Of course on this site you can't right click and do a save as. I have a program called SnagIT. It is a screen capture program. I can use this program to defeat the right click option and get a copy of any photo I want. But like Heather says, just upload a small image to the site because if someone was to use a program like mine or something just like it, trying to enlarge it will only make the photo distorted and not good for printing.


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June 15, 2005

 

Willie
  REad this Thread. It covers all of this very nicely.

http://www.betterphoto.com/forms/qnaDetail.php?threadID=15843


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June 15, 2005

 

Kristian L. Stricklin
  Thanks for the warning, Olivia! I, like others, was unaware of all the ways to get around BPs protection system. I went to the thread Willie listed. Someone on there suggested watermarking, which I think is a wonderful idea. Unfortunately, when I clicked the watermarking feature on my program it sent me to a place where I could BUY a watermark program for $79 or more... I'm not so concerned about my general photos, but it is disconcerting to know that my family shots can be stolen.


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June 16, 2005

 

Joe Jarosz
  Just thought I'd share this copyright story with you as well. Very interesting.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050616/ap_on_hi_te/photo_printing_frustration


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June 16, 2005

 

KHAWLA Haddad
  Olivia such good point but as heather said there not much that you can to stop someone from taking what they want but if you do like to have watermake on your images with out big distraction and only you would know where you put that mark in case you did need to prove its your and they cant do much about remove it once you put it on is you can creat it in PS With layers and add it to the image you really cant even notice them I do that with most of my image to know for sure they cant print them if they take them
First you can creat layer with black and white you can use bg black and tex in white or other way round
then type the copy right and your name you can also use gray that will do same as B&W meathod
then add that layer to your image rezie it to your choice of where you like to add it then go to layers and choice the hard light and adjest it till its almost invisble and only you can really know the spot where you put and you still have the option for your viwers to see the image as clear not sure if this would work for everyone but it sure does work for me when I do creat my own graphics and also want to keep in mind if they allow this to be don here or not but thought I let you know if way that you can do it with PS . Have wonderful night
Kelly


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June 16, 2005

 

Laljit S. Sidhu
  First, please note that Firefox is a web browser just like Internet Explorer or Netscape and the ability to right-click and "steal photos" is equally possible regardless of the browser used.

Secondly, in my opinion its a little paranoid to believe that someone would steal your images for profit. Now if that were to happen, your copyright would protect you to the extent that it would be worth it to you to pursue the culprit.

Now, and I hope this doesn't get me turned in but I "right-click" and save images from the internet all the time ... including from betterphoto.com I frequently use those photos as samples for myself as I practice my photography as guides to poses and to see if I can duplicate the image and learn how it was done. Of course, the original photographer could pursue a suit against me ... but for what? I am not displaying the image in public, claiming it as my own work, or making any profit from it.

Now, if I were to do either of those things than certainly legal action would be warranted.

Also note that many websites make images and graphic available for use by nonprofits and for personal use. As long as they are not used in a commercial context, what is the harm?

It is neither worth the effort nor the mental stress to worry about someone downloading your photographs.


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June 16, 2005

 

Matthew Slyfield
  There is one possible solution to the printing frustrations issue. Among the camera properties that my digital rebel saves in the image is the serial number of the camera. So it may take some effort, but I can prove I took the picture.


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June 17, 2005

 

KHAWLA Haddad
  Good Points Laljit for me personally I would be so flatter if someone would want to use my images for disply in there home or office just sold my first print for my images of the many faces of flower. but for me I would rather somone contact me asking for promission on use and be more than glad to offer better image in print size I look at it this way if someone want to disply my image hey its one way to get your name out there for people to see your work as long they do give me the ceadite for it and not use it as there own . But thats just me .
Have wonderful day!


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June 17, 2005

 

Henry Tai
  make your pictures small, watermark visibly and degrade noticably. No one has use for this type of photo. If someone really likes it, they will contact you for the HiRes at which time you make your money.


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June 19, 2005

 
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