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shooting bands in low light situations no flash /



shooting bands in low light situations no flash / D-70
I have been trying all sorts of settings to achieve optimal images with my New D-70. I have an 80-200 2.8 lens . I am close to my subjects . I am shooting anywhere form 800- 1600 iso. My images are often dark and very red . ( the lighting is generally crap). I did however get better results with my f 90 x and the same lens with 800 superia film. Any suggestions ? Also having trouble with focusing... dynamic is crap . (the mikes are all in focus . not the musicians) . Spot focus is the best for close ups , but dynamic is better for the whole band shot. No time to change the settings , I generally only get to shoot the first 3 songs. Can anyone out there give me some tips .
-- suzanne


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June 05, 2005

 

Liza M. Franco
  Suzanne,

I found this website to really informative. I haven't gotten to try any of it yet as I only found it yesterday. So fill me in, how do you get to shoot the bands up close. First 3 songs is generally what you get with a press pass. This is the direction I would like to go. Any helpful hints?


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June 05, 2005

 

Jon Close
  As good a place to start as any:
http://www.photo.net/learn/concerts/mirarchi/concer_i is a terrific tutorial on shooting concerts.

RE - "images dark and very red"
Are you setting the White Balance for tungsten/incandescent light? If not that would account for the overly red cast. Using film, especially Superia, gives good results because it has much wider exposure latitude than most digital sensors, and the "4th color layer" technology of the Fuji film allows better correction of color from non-daylight sources like tungsten and fluorescent lights.


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June 06, 2005

 

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  550 ez with diffuser


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Liza M. Franco
  Thanks for putting the website Jon. I forgot to list it in my response. That is the one that I found too and it was great.


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June 06, 2005

 

Jon Close
  >"550 ez with diffuser"<<
:rolleyes:
Ed, just go away if you are intent on trolling and making nonsense responses.
(a) there is no "550 ez".
(b) you are no doubt refering to a Canon speedlight (540EZ or 550EX), which will not work with the original poster's D70
(c) the original question specifically stated "no flash"


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June 06, 2005

 

John A. Lind
  Suzanne,
Jon Close gave a link to a great tutorial. I believe his shooting is under some big time stage lighting . . . which may be more than you'll encounter in a smaller venue.

I'm going to give some film recommendations:
I've done it using high speed B&W (which you may find suitable for the bands, venue and music and eliminates "crappy color"): TMax P3200 and Delta 3200 at EI 1600, in a very small club with modest "stage" lighting that isn't all that bright. At EI 1600, both films have granularity similar to Tri-X at its rated ISO 400 and it opens up the latitude some. Both these B&W films are multi-speed and their true rating is about ISO 800 (which I don't recommend using them at). They were made to be pushed. At EI 1600, it's Push 1 and must be developed for Push 1 by a pro lab (consumer labs won't know what you're talking about).

If you want color, try Fuji Press 1600 . . . similar to the Fuji 800 you tried, but one stop faster.

Lens of choice (for my working distance) is a fast 85mm f/2 prime opened up to f/2.8 and it gets me shutter speeds of 1/60th to 1/125th second. It's a real challenge avoiding camera shake and the extremely shallow depth of field (often 6 inches or so) . . . but with a little work to gain some experience at the edge of what can be done hand held, it is possible to get some good photographs.

I watch performers' behaviors on stage . . . nearly all repeat them periodically . . . pre-focus for a composition I want . . . compose it . . . and wait until the performer moves into the shot when he/she repeats the behavior.

It's very, very difficult to get an entire band . . . they're usually quite dynamic and someone is either blocking someone else, or the drummer is behind part of his trap set, or one of them is in a less than desirable "pose." It requires great patience to get a good one! I try to do most of my shots of the individual band members . . . if you need the whole band, and it proves impossible to get, a collage can be made from individual shots.

-- John Lind


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