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Justin S.
 

BIG SUN


So, today I was driving down the road late afternoon from the local wolfcamera turned west on a highway and "wow!!!" The sun was hugh... IT was so big it looked like it was going to explode and kill us all. So being the photographer I am, I immediatly pull off the road set up the ol' tripod and snaped aways 3 shots before it had sank/sunk below the horizon.

Now, my question is what makes this sun effect happen? I have never seen the sun this big in my life... It was a slight overcast day which had just started to break up in the late afternoon around 8:00pm. Any info on this effect will be much appreciated; I would love to re creat this shot with some time to set up better.
In my original shots I had distracting elements in them but if I moved to a different location I would have missed the whole this,it was over in less than 5 minutes...
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May 05, 2005

 

Laura Roth
  I had read, years ago, that the size of the sun and the moon is actually the same during it's trip across the sky, but that when it gets low to the horizon, your eyes have a reference point, so you actually realize how big it really is.

This is highly possibly, though I have not been able to find any statements on the internet verifying this... I keep getting statements about the actual calculated size of the sun.(Grrr)

Being as the Earth's orbit is elliptical, at certain times of the year the Earth will be closer to the sun and thus it will appear a fraction of a centimeter wider.

It could also be a reasonable assumption that atmosphereic conditions can also play a role, since during sunset and sunrise the atmosphereic particles act as a refracting prism, but now I'm just getting too technical.

Basically, just try to go back at the same time of day.


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May 06, 2005

 

Mellanie
  Justin, I recently noticed the huge sun and moon the other evening. My husband stated that the reason why this occurs is from dust in the atmosphere. This will usually be noticeable on a windy day.


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May 06, 2005

 
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  dust makes the halo. distortion from the angle the light takes thru the atmosphere is what makes the sun and moon look bigger low in the horizon. It also makes the sun look a little squashed and wider.
Very long focal length will make the sun look bigger from the compression effect.


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May 06, 2005

 
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  Hmm
very interesting - wish I had seen the sun that night to. I am bummed I missed it actually :-) oh well summer is here and plenty of time I am sure to see it have that effect again.
-Pamela


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May 06, 2005

 

Justin S.
  Thanks guys for the responses. I'm going to try to reshoot the scene agian soon I went out today a scoped out the area and have found my spot. I'm kicking myself for not being more prepared and not having my telephoto lens but you live,you learn. At least I did have my camera with me and have a snapshot to remember it by.


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May 06, 2005

 

Bob Cammarata
  You will be fortunate if the sunset, light levels, and "smog" levels are consistant to what were prevalent yesterday.
That's what's great about sunsets,...you never know what you're going to get until it happens.

While I'm no astronomer, I think that impurities in the atmosphere create this phenomenon.
What I do know, is that you can meter the scene as it appears and get great results.


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May 06, 2005

 

Laura Roth
  Hah! Found a reference, finally...

http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/lessons/unt.illu.html

Refers specifically to the moon, but same idea....

Excerpt:
Ask what the size of a full moon is just above the horizon, compared to its size straight overhead. Most will say that it is larger. In fact, they are the same size...it's only an illusion. (Have anyone who doubts you just set up a device at one end of a yardstick which can hold a piece of paper on which you can mark the apparent diameter of the moon while looking at it with your eye at the opposite end of the stick. do this when the full moon rises on the horizon, then later in the evening when it is overhead. Be sure to mark the apparent diameters on the card both times. If done carefully, they will be the same.) Somehow, the bright clarity of the moon seen close to nearby objects (trees, houses, telephone poles, etc.) in a horizontal direction seems larger than when viewed higher in the sky. It's an illusion!


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May 07, 2005

 

Bob Cammarata
  So the mystery is solved. It's all done with "mirrors"...(within our own eyes and minds, so to speak).
Thanks for the info Laura.


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May 07, 2005

 
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  It's like when I drive to work in the morning...I come around a corner and ahead of me is a short stretch of road and a few trees between me and Mt Rainier...the mountain looks huge, very huge. Two blocks later, when there are buildings and such between me and the mountain, it as shrunk (shrank?) considerably. My brain has now put the whole mountain in perspective......anyway, yup, mirrors..:-)
Bob


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May 07, 2005

 

Justin S.
  well, I tried to re-do the shot and it isn't happening. at least I have a snap shot to remember it by.


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