Greg Bishop |
How best to use 3600HS on Minolta Z1 Manual with 3600HS flash is full of set-ups that they say will not work with my Z1. The question, what is the best combo setting to make this flash work best on my Z1? I'm not quite ready to retire my 500cm and Metz 402 yet. Greg
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John C. Schwentner |
Hi, Im John and Im glad you asked about this. I have a z-1 and a z-2 and have the 5600 flash which is similiar in settings. Ive found that the focus light will not work with it, but you really dont need it. Also you cant use the remote which would be great. What is good is the fact that the flash is still TTL and will take care of everything in auto. I knew all this before I bought, but wanted the power. The only way to in increase the power is in manual, and then you can use the power settings. You just have to take shots and experiment. good thing our cam has instant feedback in viewfinder. One thing Im sure youve noticed also, is that the built in flash with its 39 gn is just as good as the big flash until you get far away. In fact, I cant tell the difference unless I go to manual and increase the power. am I right?
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Greg Bishop |
John, The little flash on the cam is indeed quite nice. So I assume from your answer, I should run the camera on auto, set the flash button on the cam to auto, and run the flash on a manual setting to get the extra pop I sometimes need? Does Red-Eye Reduction and Fill Flash work with the 3600 as well? One thing I tried, and didn't work was a little trick I used to use on my Metz 402. When I wanted a softer light I'd blow up a white balloon and tape it to the flash. Oh well!
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John C. Schwentner |
Hey Greg, Yean set the thing on all auto, and the tl metering of the flash balances the whole deal. As far as the extra pop, you have to set flash and camer on manual to get an ncrease. thats because the auto flash is ttl thru the lens and is automatic exposure. You could set the flash high, but the auto settings will only use as much as it needs unless u go to manual. yes the fill flash and red eye, all flash settings are the same in auto as the built in flash. The 5600 comes with a pull out diffuser built in, but I think yours doesnt, but see if you can find a generic plastic diffuser that you can clip on sometimes. Something else that works good, is a single piece of that flimsy white lens cleaner paper. John
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John C. Schwentner |
Hey Greg Im a liar. I just got to thinking, and I checked my flash, You actually can boost it with the camera still in auto. Just set the flash in manual, and set the power where you need it. I had to cut it down to 1/32 to keep it from overexposing with the cameras auto settings whatever they were.
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Bryce Aitken |
Hi my name is Bryce and I am very interested in the 3600HS discussion. I have a Z5 which also does not use the autofocus lamp or the wireless remote. I notice from previous posts that you seem to be able to set the power of the gun but I can't seem to figure out how to do that. Any info would be a help, Cheers, Bryce
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Bryce Aitken |
I am enclosing a photo (I hope!) for you to see.
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Bryce Aitken |
I am enclosing a photo (I hope!) for you to see.
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Bryce Aitken |
Hello John/Greg just one further bit of information, the 3600 flash can be remote triggered using a TV remote handset for Sharp VCR (or one of these multi programable ones). Distance from the remote flash effects the response. I think it would be possible to trigger it by using an infrared second flash slave to drive an RC5 type encoder to do the actual triggering. Please note this would need to be used in the manual mode and calculations done to get the best exposure balance. Cheers, Bryce PS have not managed to figure out how to upload a picture to QnA hence no picture of the 3600 flash!!
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John C. Schwentner |
Bryce and Greg, no I have a 5600 not a 3600, but I guess the settings must be quite different. If you cannot set the flash to manual, and no power level settings, then you wont be able to boost it from the dimage z-5. Also I dont know about remote, I know there is no remote triggering for the dimage z series. Maybe you can do something with after market devices, but I wouldnt know how. Bryce seems to know and would be nice to have a remote off camera choice if you would go into detail
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John C. Schwentner |
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Bryce Aitken |
Hi guys the slave unit I built was from Elektor magazine and it can be adjusted to suit a number of pre-flashs. This can be triggered by the built in flash on the Z series but instead of firing the remote 3600 flash directly the signal would need to start a further bit of circuitry to generate the same RC5 (I think this is the code type) as the TV/VCR remote which fires the remote 3600. I am trawling the net to see if I can find any easy way of determining exactly which code works but as there are 2048 different codes and most TV/VCR remotes use several of these codes I do not know how successful I will be. I will keep trying to see if it is possible. Cheers, Bryce
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John C. Schwentner |
Thanks, but the trouble this seems to be isnt worth it in my case. I can just use the powerful bounce on the 5600 if I ever have a need for indirect flash
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Greg Bishop |
I was away for a couple of weeks in New Orleans. There does not seem to be a manual setting on the flash. Also I tried it for some shots at night (Bourbon St.). Cam focus is OK provided subject distance is infinity, but does not focus if less than infinity. Without the 3600, using only the onboard flash, all works perfect! Duh!
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John C. Schwentner |
Greg, I think you are correct. The 3600 evidently doesnt have enough settings. I first bought the 2500 which didnt flash any better than the onboard flash, and this seems to be the case with the 3600 also. So I returned it and got the 5600. It looks like the only one of the three that can really be increased. It will go to 100 feet. Im surprised about the focus because the external flash being ttl, should still work like the onboard
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