BetterPhoto Q&A
Category: New Answers

Photography Question 

Pauline Squibb
 

development time for pulled film


Hi, I know that if you push your film by one stop you need to over develop it by 33% of normal development time for every stop that you pushed. But how much do you reduce development time by for film that has been pulled?


To love this question, log in above
January 10, 2005

 

Jon Close
  Depends on the film and chemical developer used.

C-41 (color print, chromogenic b&w) is fairly standardized at 3:15 @ 38°C (100.4°F) for normal developing and +0:30/stop push, regardless of ISO or manufacturer. Pull developing is not recommended. Actually, push/pull processing is generally unneccessary with C-41 film due to its wide exposure latitude.

E-6 (Ektachrome/Fujichrome/Agfachrome etc. color slides) is similar, but push/pull is done with +/- 2:00/stop.

Traditional B&W development times depend on both the specific film being developed and the chemicals used. Best to refer to the manufacturer's specific recommendations.
Film data sheets for Ilford can be found at http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/bw.html.
Start here for technical data on Kodak b&w films.


To love this comment, log in above
January 10, 2005

 

Jon Close
  More, re "pulling" C-41 film.
Pull generally refers to giving the film greater exposure, eg. expose ISO 100 film at ISO 50. With tradional b&w and slide films this would require pull processing (less time in the developer) to compensate. C-41 film is such that most react very favorable to +1 or +2 stops "over" exposure with normal developing.


To love this comment, log in above
January 10, 2005

 

Pauline Squibb
  Thanks for information so far. I was curious about black and white only. It is true that whatever the film or the developer used you add 33% for each stop that you push the film. i.e. if you push a Kodak 200 ISO to 400 ISO and lets say the dev time for 200 ISO in Ilford ID11 is 6 minutes then you add 33% to account for the pushing making your dev time 8 minutes. Isnt there a similar equation for pulling in black and white no matter what film or developer?


To love this comment, log in above
January 10, 2005

 

Jon Close
  >>"It is true that whatever the film or the developer used you add 33% for each stop that you push the film. i.e. if you push a Kodak 200 ISO to 400 ISO and lets say the dev time for 200 ISO in Ilford ID11 is 6 minutes then you add 33% to account for the pushing making your dev time 8 minutes."<<

I don't believe that is exactly true though it might get you in the ballpark. For example, the tech sheet for Ilford ID-11 lists varying times for various films. For Delta 100 the normal time is 8:30. A 1 stop pull to ISO 50 subtracts 1:30 (17.6% reduction in time). For 1 stop push to 200 add 2:00 (+23.5%). For TMAX 400 the ISO 400 time is 7:00, 1 stop push is +2:30 (+35.7%), 2 stop push is +5:00 (+71.4%). A 1 stop push for Fuji Neopan 400 is just +1:15 (+16.7%), while 2 stop push is +6:00 (+80%).


To love this comment, log in above
January 10, 2005

 

Pauline Squibb
  Ok, so it gets pretty complicated, and the answer is to be found in the appropriate tech sheet for film and dev combined. Thanks for info.


To love this comment, log in above
January 11, 2005

 
This old forum is now archived. Use improved Forum here

Report this Thread