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Lloyd R. Stith
 

higher speed lens


I have the Minolta Maxxum Qt si. I was thinking of purshasing the vivitar s1 af f2.8-4.0 70-210mm len, and wondered if this speed len will let me shoot indoor sports without a flash and have success.
I have had some success indoors with my old Minolta xg-1 with a f3.9 80-200mm lens. I have also thought about the vivitar s1 mf f2.8-40 70-210 len. Just wondered if the old would be better, because it has more manual possibilities, the Maxxum only gives mode options. I want to go all auto if it will give good results.


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December 02, 2006

 

robert G. Fately
  An f2.8 lens, in combination with fast film, might be enough to get decent shots indoors (depending, of course, on the venue itself - some gyms have great lighting, others are caverns).

However, be aware that the lenses you mention are not f2.8 throughout their zoom ranges - when you zoom out to 200MM they become f4 lenses. While one stop may not seem like much, it can make a real difference. The 70-200MM f2.8 zooms that maintain that wider f2.8 aperture throughout the zoom range are much heavier and more costly, but that's what it takes to get that kind of speed and light-gathering ability.

Of cousre, you say you got some success with that f3.9 lens (which is essentially f4 anyway) so maybe that will be enough for your needs.

You might want to consider another alernative --- perhaps a prime lens - that is, one that doesn't zoom. Is there a 135 or 180MM telephoto with an f2.8 aperture you could use instead of a zoom?


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December 02, 2006

 

Lloyd R. Stith
  I'm not sure if I could affort the f2.8 180mm. Do you think I would be better off with the manual len and set the sutter speeds and aperture myself?
The maxxum is so auto that if I buy the auto focus len and the pictures do not work out, I can't make a change.


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December 02, 2006

 

robert G. Fately
  Well, I'm not familiar with the Maxxum, but if it has an aperture-preferred mode then you can just set the lens wide open and let the camera decide what shutter speed to use.


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December 02, 2006

 

BetterPhoto Member
  Lloyd, Bob makes good points.

Just remember:
- if you want a faster lenses (like f/2.8) it's usually more expensive (& possibly heavier)
- if you don't want to pay as much, you'll get a lens with a varying aperture (like Bob said, f/2.8 at 70mm, but when you zoom to 200mm, it only goes down to f/4).
- zooms are great for composing (giving you more options when standing in one spot)
- telephoto lenses (what Bob calls prime lenses) provide crisper shots (usually less glass in the lens) & a lower f/stop (aperture). but it can be hard to notice the quality difference.

Shooting sports indoors is tough for any photographer- the pros, like myself, when shooting sports indoors usually hooks into a bank of strobes (that is many high-powered flash heads in the ceiling of the auditorium installed by the ownership of the sports team or stadium.

I recommend shooting with the lens you are move comfortable with, or can afford, then use a faster ASA/ISO film to compensate for a slower lens.


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December 04, 2006

 

Samuel Smith
  hey lloyd,
the qtsi(maxxum)has a button for manual focus.no shutter/aperture priority.it has a sports mode but it is still auto.
if you wish to stick with minolta,ya might want to check out ebay for a good used xtsi.still can be used on full auto but has a gob of functions you could learn to move up to at your own pace.i picked up an xtsi body,2 lenses,one was a new in box 28mm prime,some rolls of film,auxillary flash and a cleaning kit.final bid,70 bucks.
if your going to plunk down some big bucks for a fast lens you really should upgrade the body.
sam


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December 05, 2006

 

Lloyd R. Stith
  I just bought a sigma af f2.8-3.5 70-200mm lens. I want to have the manual options for sutter speed. What camera options do I have? I have the old minolta xg-1 that lets me set aperture and shutter speed and exposure, What auto camera that fits the sigma len can I have these options?


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December 09, 2006

 

BetterPhoto Member
  Lloyd, (wasn't sure if you were asking me or responding to Samuel's comment, but just in case, I'll throw my 2 cents in:

I'm not familiar with your Minolta system, but I assume since you bought a sigma lens for your older Minolta camera, that lens probably came with a Minolta mount- hence you'd be able to fit it on other Minolta cameras.

But to be sure, I'd take your equipment to a camera store, and read the manual (of the lens and any camera you may have). Another quick place to check is online at Minolta's site, or Google's.

Regarding upgrading your camera after buying an expensive lens, I'm not sure I'd completely agree. When it comes to great images, a great lens is more important than a great camera (in my book)- all your camera needs to do is meter correctly.

I like Samuels comments on finding affordable equipment- it's always good to start that way before jumping into an extremely expensive system.

Hope this helps!


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December 09, 2006

 

Lloyd R. Stith
  I just want more manual control from the camera, and wanted to know more options in camera bodies that will fit the sigma lens. the xtsi minolta is an option, but looking on e-bay for just one style camera is more limiting.
If you know other brand cameras, I may be able to get a better deal.


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December 09, 2006

 

Samuel Smith
  hey lloyd,
if that lens mounts to your qtsi and your xg-1 then you'll have to stick with minolta a-type bayonet mount cameras.different brands have different mounts.
there are a lot of different models of maxxum mount cameras.
that lens won't fit on a canon,nikon,pentax,olympus or any other brand because of the mount.
I had also purchased a minolta htsi-plus,which is almost identical to the xtsi.i use it sparingly because it has a plastic lens mount.i didn't do enough research.
some of the other models didn't have some of the other options I wanted for a low price.remote release.panorama setting.1/4000 shutter speed plus bulb.
but the omni-directional focusing sold me.
right now you can say all I want is?but next month or next year you might say,ohhh I wish I had got one with that option.
read the descriptions carefully,sam


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December 10, 2006

 

Lloyd R. Stith
  Thanks for the info. Maybe later on I can go digital. But not for a while.


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December 12, 2006

 

Samuel Smith
  i was not talking digital.these are cameras made years ago.35mm,film.
your respect and knowledge is taken into account.
sometimes ignorance doesn't draw a crowd,but only shows that the attainment of knowledge is not a pursuit.
sorry I left you without a clue,sam


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December 12, 2006

 

Lloyd R. Stith
  Sam
Your comments were execellent, The lens I bought can be used on a digital camera later. Using my old minolta, I was able to get some good shots. My comment on digital was do to a camera I bought for my daughter. Knowing what correction to make instantly is good for me, and I hope will make me understand my 35mm camera better. Thanks again.


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December 13, 2006

 

Samuel Smith
  i will still apologize.
I have a cheat sheet of about 30 minolta cameras, 35mm film,that I researched.
I just need to make a better judgement,and not make my decision on a preconceived notion of what someone else is saying.
yeah


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December 13, 2006

 
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