 Wendy M. Hansen-Penman |
Model Releases I asked this question under another thread but never got an answer. I think that thread was dead. So here goes again! Do you need releases for "crowd" photos? Do you need specific releases from a wedding you are paid to shoot, if your contract states you retain the rights? Can you get a release signed after the fact?
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- Gregory LaGrange Contact Gregory LaGrange Gregory LaGrange's Gallery |
Funny that you have crowd in quotation marks. Like you did the quote thing with your fingers. What kind of crowd that's not really a crowd are you talking about? And how you plan on using these photos, that you not really going to "use" them? Or are you going to "use" them?
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Wendy M. Hansen-Penman |
What I meant was that if you take photos in a crowd, but zero in on one person do you need a release from that person? Sorry that was unclear. I mean using them for contests and sales.
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Thom Schoeller |
This goes under no one size fits all answers :) Wendy, if the plan is to use "that specific" photo commercially (one person easy to identify) then yes, you do need to get a release statement. To photograph street scenes or what have you for your own personal endeavors or fine art your OK. The risk is yours to take to enter the image online (which is publishing the image) in a contest. My personal opinion, based on my knowledge and years in photography say's for the most part entering into a contest poses less risk as would be using the same image commercially. Just peek into www.photo.net and check out hundreds of street scene images uploaded. There is no harm in going back to anyone at a later date to request them to sign a release. I've had to do this for property releases for Getty for them to sell for me. Sometimes 2 years after I did the photoshoot, never had a problem. Re: weddings. You still need permission to use any image where someone can be identified. Their right to privacy trumps your rights. Weddings are WFH (work for hire) You can request to get paid for the prints or a supplied CD of the images-but don't even think of using someones wedding pics to advertise your business without their permission. Hope this helps! TS
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- Gregory LaGrange Contact Gregory LaGrange Gregory LaGrange's Gallery |
Practically any contest you'll find will have in it's rules, terms and conditions that they tell you to read is that by entering a photo in the contest, you're saying or acknowledging you have releases and/or permissions from people. Does it mostly happen that way. My lack of naivety clearly says no, not for simple contest. And they also usually say by entering, you're releasing the contest people of any wrongdoing, and you'll take all the blame if anything happens. You retaining the rights to wedding photos means the bride and groom can't take the photos somewhere else and get them duplicated. But back to the crowd, there are circumstances regarding whether someone or something is not a definite subject of a photo. Like the pyramid shaped Transamerica building in San Francisco. They do have the use of the image of that building on lock down, but you can shoot the skyline of San Francisco and use that. Insert disclaimer here:Not actual legal advice. Nope, don't see any here.
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