The battle
Uploaded: March 23, 2005
Focal Length: 200mm
White Balance: Shade
Exposure Mode: Manual
AF Mode: AF-C
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/400 sec - f/2.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Protacio Serna March 23, 2005
Other than cropping the head (which was intentional) I'll appreciate any other comments about the image.Regards
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Kate Jackson March 23, 2005
I love the way you've focused on the (matador? with his impressive outfit. It's a great picture, Protacio but, being an English softee, I am worried what happened to the bull?!! #1201278Mellanie March 23, 2005
fantastic composition and color, protacio! #1201453Susana Ms Heide March 23, 2005
This is the most artistic image I have ever seen of this bullfighting sport! #1201548Susana Ms Heide March 23, 2005
This is the most artistic image I have ever seen of this sport! #1201550Protacio Serna March 24, 2005
Thank you all for your comments.In close ups I always try to focus on the bullfighter. The depth of field is shallow and since the bulls are dark it is better to get details from the matador.
This is the beginning of the bullfight and the bull hasn’t been punished yet. I try to get the most images possible from this part of the fight but unfortunately it is too short.
About what happened to the bull, that’s another story. I got that picture as well…I’m not sure what to do with it.
Regards
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Melissa L. Zavadil March 24, 2005
I love the way that you divided the picture into three distinct triangular sections (matador, cape, bull). The bull rushing the cape almost gives the viewer a pinwheel effect. The cropping of the picture is absolutely perfect for the reasons I stated above (of course you would crop the head) good job!. The only thing that is throwing my eye off just slightly is the clashing of the two different reds, but I don't know if that is what is attracting me to this picture. Let me think about this for a minite.......I guess there is another way to look at this photo, all the colors on the right are warm colors where as the pink-purple cape is vibrant attracting your eye to the cape. AHH that might be it, if that is the theory then you might lighten the red wall around the cape.
Ok, sorry for thinking outloud on this one but it has intrigued me!
GREAT PICTURE!
the bull charging the cape. #1203738
Melissa L. Zavadil March 24, 2005
Ok, If you are not opposed to photoshop try this picture with a jeweled green toned wall. I think you might like the results!Stan Kwasniowski March 24, 2005
Protacia, I like your image, as for the head in my opinion not required, you have the bull, dust, matador's outfit the horns going for the cape, and you filled the frame, BeautifulStan Kwasniowski #1203777
Protacio Serna March 24, 2005
Hi Stan...thanks for your comment. I’m glad you liked it.Melissa. Thank you for the time and for sharing your thoughts about this image.
As for replacing the color of the wall behind I got something to confess: I just did…but I knew I wouldn’t like it. There are a couple of reasons why and the most important reason is that the wall must be red. It is part of the tradition of bullfighting.
Why the wall is painted red? I don’t know. I know the cape must be red to mislead the bull hiding the body of the bullfighter and perhaps by blending with the red background.
I’m not sure about why it should be painted red, but when I’m photographing at the bullring, I zoom at the red wall and adjust the exposure accordingly. Nothing beats this red for a perfect exposure.
Thanks again.
Protacio
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Melissa L. Zavadil March 24, 2005
Well thanks for having an open mind. I guess that is where you need to understand the subject matter also! :) Thanks for the information on bullfighting. #1204561Shane Nestle March 24, 2005
Excellent sharpness, color, saturation. It took me a bit of staring to realize what I was looking at. The bull is so completely black, I didn't realize it was an intergal part of the picture at first. Instead, my attention was drawn to the upper body, but I still could not figure out what I was looking at. My first thought was this was a macro. I can understand taking out the face, but maybe a little of the shoulder and neckline or collar would help the image to be readily clear. Of course, I'm tired so, it could just be that. It's a great shot over all. #1204598Dorothy Neumann March 24, 2005
I'm not going to get into a debate about the strengths and weaknesses of this image...obviously there are many people more sophisticated than I am about the nuances of such things. However, I think you should know that bulls are color-blind, and the bull would charge the cape no matter its color...it's the movement of the cape and not the color that raises his ire! #1204616Protacio Serna March 24, 2005
Thanks Shane for your message. I agree with you about the shoulders.You are 100% right Dorothy. Bulls are color blind. The cape is waved in front of him and it also works as a decoy.
Thanks
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Pam M March 25, 2005
as a stand alone pic ... I have to agree I felt a little disoriented as to what I was looking at. ... BUT oh WOW .. in the proper setting or with a grouping of other bullfight photos ... where the mind is already thinking "bullfight!" ... WOW !!!Just as I was trying to think this through ... my daughter interrupted my field of vision with an IM (The Girl who had to move across country to get her BS in Graphic Design) And we had the following discussion about your photo.
Daughter: i'm going
Pam: ok have fun
Pam: WAIT look fast [link to your photo]
Pam: some are saying he should stick some of the matador back on but I don't think so
Daughter: No no no..
Pam: but it's soooo balanced on the right and center and plus the bull is sooo beautiful
Daughter: the matador makes a great color/texture pattern
Daughter: you can tell what this is but I don't think that's the point of the photo. it looks like an abstract with color and motion and patterns and then you get to figure out what's really going on
Daughter: why does everything have to be readily clear these days?! it's annoying
Pam: yeah ... can you imagine this pic in a bullfight museum ...
Pam: can you just see this in a book or collection of other fight pics
Pam: it would be the ultimate exclaimation point in the group
Daughter: def in a collection!
Daughter: Ok I’m leaving
Pam: Ok, have fun
Daughter: especially if he puts the face back it will completely change the photo because people always look at faces first
Pam: I think the face would be in pain anyway ;-)
Daughter: probably - at least not very attractive
Daughter: OK really ... I’m leaving ! LOL
She said some other stuff ... the short version is: "THis is Great!" Sometimes she puts her stuff up in the HOW Forum (for graphics people) and so now she thinks I'm going to put my pics up here ... where does she get these ideas?! #1206754
Protacio Serna March 26, 2005
WOW.This is one of the things that never cease to amaze me about modern life. You are somewhere in the States, your daughter in a different time zone, and you were talking about a picture I took last Sunday somewhere south of the border.
Thanks for sharing your conversation with us. It meant a lot to me.
Best regards
Protacio
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